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this is a very touchy topic so i wanna take a different approach,,,lets say that devs are working hard on a root for 2.2 stock for all of us that are stuck ....why not let this thread be the new discussion for what is happening with root and why it is not happening yet ..like what devs are running into as far as problems go and what not...i am not a dev but i have been roming since the droid and hero an moment have come out ...why dont we help the devs as much as possible and all work together to achieve this common goal and not fight about it all day ...cause in the end we all just want root and everyone will shut up and start enjoying what their evo is really capable of ...thank you devs for all the hard work and such ..lets get this thing cracked asap...
Ps ...please would a dev who is working on this step up and give a status of what exactly is happening and if they need help...
There was no need to create a new thread for this...though I could understand tour frustration if I was in your shoes...
Sorry sir... you have wait like everyone else whoa stuck on the latest OTA.
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Yes! I would love to have a real time transcript of all the devs' thoughts.
That would be fantastic.
Somehow I doubt that they would be jumping in here to update us, civilians, about their progress
Not to be the bad apple, but speaking realistically. When the Evo had 2.1, the Dev made comments all the time about that process and so on, and what to look for. This is different. No one is commenting at all. In fact, they are probable reading all these threads, looking at everyone's comment, calling each other and laughing. Why would they risk root, to help us?.. I'm just living and accepting the fact to live with the Official 2.2. Bottom line is, if they, the developers, were working on a exploit. What harm would it do to let the public know.. I'm not mad at the Dev. For 1, they're not getting paid an hourly rate to do this for the majority of people who will just download there hack without donating.. 2, they are already rooted. IT would be a different story if all the dev weren't rooted, and wanted total control over their phone. Then this would push them to find a way... And i mean thats just the way the world works. So you can't knock them for not finding a way... It is what it is... Just realisticly speaking
this process is killing me.....i miss hacking my nexus one, this evo 2.2 is a iphone that i cant fix up and customize...this sucks!!
I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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I think the developers are busy on their ROMs. This seems to be more for the hackers. My question is: who are the hackers that have broken the ROMs in the past?
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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Think about it. If you were a dev with a rooted EVO, would you unroot and install 2.2 OTA and lose root, just so you could see if you could crack the 2.2 OTA?
God bless one of them if that's what they decided to do, but I wouldn't do that if I was in their shoes.
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No. And like I stated in my first message, the developers are busy writing ROMs.
you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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you dont need to unroot your phone to start trying to crack 2.2, unless im mistaken you can run the 2.2 image the sdk emulator and work on it that way. its how those who are writing roms probably test out their changes.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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That may be true, but at some point the only way to be sure that the crack works is to test it on an EVO that has 2.2 either as purchased, or OTA updated. My point is that after anyone has put a ton of time and effort into getting something working just the way they want it to, there isn't much incentive to go and screw it up just to make someone else happy.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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maybe you didnt get that you can have an image of the 2.2 ota.
and as a developer/hacker (i dont do phones so i cant comment on status here) the incentive is the fact you did it. trust, thats a very good feeling.
i understand its easy for everyone whos rooted to say, be patient, but thats all that can be currently offered.
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My reading comprehension is adequate, thank you. My expectations are reasonable as well.
Rooting is a luxury not something that has to be offered up to the public. Up until recently it wasnt even considered completly legal. So for everyone here including myself for that matter that disregarded the warnings and took the update(also for the people who got their phones with 2.2 stock, thats just the way it goes.) Wait patiently, the devs dont owe you periodic updates on what they are doing with their free time. And enjoy your android phones, and if you wanna customize your phone, there are ways from the market you could do so with widgets and replacement launchers that can make your phone look original without rooting.
Agreed! Well said.
i don't know whether i should root my phone because i am afraid of bricking it, but there are too much limitations with unrooted phone.
It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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It's really up to you, it isn't that risky if you have enough knowledge to do everything exactly according to the guides.
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im not sure coz i updated my software directly from htc and idk can it be rooted without any probs. which guide do you recommend?
Tell us your build number. It is in settings-about-software information. Then ppl can tell you what to do next.
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In case you're not sure, you can check your build number through...
Setting >> About Phone >> Software Information.
=)
Stock rom Android 2.2.1
Build no.
1.84.707.2 CL335251 release-keys
Software no.
1.84.707.2
Then start from the Downgrade guide
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Erm, how? Please teach me step by step pls. I really know nothing.
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I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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No offense, but you need a little knowledge to root and flash a custom rom. This isn't meant for the average user. It feels like everyone who gets an android phone nowadays (as it's becoming a more popular OS) want's to root and flash a custom rom as soon as they have in their hands without even knowing what it really means. The information to do all this is available here on this forum in form of guides which in most of the cases are quite extensive. If you want to root and flash a custom rom etc, you will have to do some reading on your own.
AFAIK this forum isn't here to hold the hands of android virgins as they try modify their phones without even knowing what a command prompt is. Almost every day someone new wants step by step instructions for this and for that even though there are good instructions out there. This forum is meant for people with some experience and knowledge that want to get the most out of our phones. New members are ofcourse welcome, but please, do some studying on your own too.
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
Hi ghostofcain
I hope you do not take offence to my reply.
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Too often I come across threads like this, if your not sure then you probably don't need to root, yet! If you decide to root read the stickies in the development thread, and don't say you havent got time to read a 100 page thread it'll be a lot quicker than fixing your DHD when it's buggered up
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I think you will find naomispoon has managed to ROOT the device.
naomispoon said:
I was so scared to root my first phone last week. I sat for three hours reading guides over and over again to make sure I new what I was doing and I havent regretted doing it.
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They say:- I havent regretted doing it.
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TheQuest
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
Hi Grant Barker
Grant Barker said:
I DIDN'T need to downgrade first and simply followed the video on the bottom of this page.
(Youtube version)
I then simply installed CM7 rom via Rom Manager.
(I am rarely sick but I had been quite ill and in a lot of pain for a few days which was a shock to the system, and when I did get better, I had the mindset that nothing matters at all.) It's not easy for most folk to feel that way. Life is a game. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
Unless you are unhappy or bored with Sense or the performance of your phone - there isn't too much reason to root in my opinion.
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Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
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TheQuest
Best thing i ever did. I had a jailbroken iphone before i got my Desire HD so rooting was the first thing i looked at when i got my HD, getting rid of the branding was the main reason but then i realized how many Roms were out there and now its hard to choose which one to use :
@I'm TheQuest
I think ghostofcain was talking about the OP...
I'm TheQuest said:
Hi Grant Barker
Really nice site you have, had a quick click, another & another, had to force myself stop clicking as I need to go to bed soon [4:30 here].
Bookmarked it, and will be back to it, many thanks.
Take Care
TheQuest
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Thanks very much.
There's a lot of changes and benefits if you root your phone and install a custom ROM... First, there are a lot of custom ROMs, for any taste. MIUI imitate the iOS system, with the liberty of Android OS, for example, and RevoHD leave the original SENSE ROM, with improvements of course.
Then, custom ROMs have some interesting tweaks, like zipalign, the ads removing and a better management of the RAM.
To finish, I did it myself (running the MIUI ROM by Rey) and I have no regrets. After reading a few tutorials it was easy as ABC !
Like it was said before It's up to you, I dont intend to convince anyone, but If you wanna do it, go doing some searches. This forum has some tutorials, and anyone, even a noob can understand them.
jkoljo said:
I do not need to teach you, I have written a detailed guide. Check it out.
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hey there, i followed your guide but i keep failing. help pls.
i just set my phone back to factory and updated it cuz i was goin to get the 3d today but my wife wants to use the upgrade cuz she hates her phone (epic) so now i want to root my phone back to the kingdom port is there a way to do this
No way to root the update unless you're still s-off. Why don't you get the 3d & give her your phone, then sell the Epic?
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
dino1342 said:
i just set my phone back to factory and updated it cuz i was goin to get the 3d today but my wife wants to use the upgrade cuz she hates her phone (epic) so now i want to root my phone back to the kingdom port is there a way to do this
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Yes there is!! Click your heels together three times and say to yourself...'theres nothing like a rooted evo...theres nothing like a rooted evo..theres nothing like a rooted evo...'.
Or, do a search...or even just glance at the Evo Q&A page for 12 seconds and you will see that this has been asked and answered endless times already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
(I'm fairly new here also, but I took the time to read the rules...and learned how to use a search button so that I can simply browse the forums every day to see for myself when that magical root is found for the evo, without getting on everyone else's nerves)
Jadigy said:
Yes there is!! Click your heels together three times and say to yourself...'theres nothing like a rooted evo...theres nothing like a rooted evo..theres nothing like a rooted evo...'.
Or, do a search...or even just glance at the Evo Q&A page for 12 seconds and you will see that this has been asked and answered endless times already.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
(I'm fairly new here also, but I took the time to read the rules...and learned how to use a search button so that I can simply browse the forums every day to see for myself when that magical root is found for the evo, without getting on everyone else's nerves)
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lol the old me would have wanted to do some things to you but im trying to become a better person so if you cant help do not reply
plainjane said:
No way to root the update unless you're still s-off. Why don't you get the 3d & give her your phone, then sell the Epic?
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
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i was goin to but she looked up some youtube videos and fell in love with the 3d she sold her epic and on her way to sprint now
dino1342 said:
lol the old me would have wanted to do some things to you but im trying to become a better person so if you cant help do not reply
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I did help though. Watch that video and learn!
Geezas H Christo how many times are people going to ask? I'm so sick of seeing the same question.
What I don't get, is when you type out the title of your new thread, it actually searches for you! So like, what the H people
my evo says i have s-off what do i do to get the root back on this thing
alienate11 said:
my evo says i have s-off what do i do to get the root back on this thing
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Flash a PC36IMG in recovery of either amon_ra or clockwork recovery, then flash a rom like normal.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865204
^This thread will be updated when 4.22.651.2 & newer root is achieved.
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Geezas H Christo how many times are people going to ask? I'm so sick of seeing the same question.
What I don't get, is when you type out the title of your new thread, it actually searches for you! So like, what the H people
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Haha.... Ya know in all these threads I see like this and I basically now go into them just to see how people get flamed cuz to me it is funny...lol I thought the same damn thing that doesn't it prompt you to other similar threads when you start yours...... lol
i have a 2.3.3 ota update so its mean i cant root right?
But somehow i can get to the hboot mod. Are there anyhow to get 2.3.3 ota root from hboot? plz pm me if you kno how becuz i can get to hboot mod thx
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Haha.... Ya know in all these threads I see like this and I basically now go into them just to see how people get flamed cuz to me it is funny...lol I thought the same damn thing that doesn't it prompt you to other similar threads when you start yours...... lol
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I was getting irritated (why? Hell if I know) But now, I'm with ya, I just find it funny lol
why do you think there is no root yet for 2.3?
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why do you think there is no root yet for 2.3?
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I would just like to know they are working on it. TeamWIN for the 3V03D at least update us that they are doing something.
There is nothing from the Dev's for the Supersonic. So, maybe that's why we keep asking!
Internet Police, Search! LMFAO! Get a life.
been monitoring the irc channels for 2 days now, read yesterday that teamwin is working on it, and hboot got pwnd , they are working on a stable release...how true this is i cannot say , but this is the chatter ive seen on the channel, lets hope its coming soon , have patience all , these guys rock but they have lives also and they do this for free, so be mindful of this too
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been monitoring the irc channels for 2 days now, read yesterday that teamwin is working on it, and hboot got pwnd , they are working on a stable release...how true this is i cannot say , but this is the chatter ive seen on the channel, lets hope its coming soon , have patience all , these guys rock but they have lives also and they do this for free, so be mindful of this too
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Well said... Hey people if you are still asking these questions then you have no clue how the Evo fourms work or for that matter xda. I have seen some other forums and this place gives you clear and well informed information. Great stickys and too me clear cut headers to let you know what roms have, last updates 4g no 4g as well as a host of other info. Also great OP info that outlines what to do, if any bugs, etc...
If you just come here and type a question especially one that is clearly all over these forums my suggestion to you is since you are waiting for your phone to achieve a root method why don't you just start to read up and learn about rooting flashing roms and kernels. You do this so hopefully you can help the community instead of filling the pages with repetitive questions and rants about why others who do this for free can't fulfill your needs fast enough.
Just My Thoughts....
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I would just like to know they are working on it. TeamWIN for the 3V03D at least update us that they are doing something.
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That is actually not true, no one heard anything from them until they found a promising root method for the Evo 3D.
And it is the same for the Evo, mainly because their is no point in telling everyone something like, "tried that.....that didn't work, tried this......this didn't work either". So I seriously doubt you will hear anything from anyone until someone finds an exploit that works.
EvoNotion said:
I would just like to know they are working on it. TeamWIN for the 3V03D at least update us that they are doing something.
There is nothing from the Dev's for the Supersonic. So, maybe that's why we keep asking!
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Um, everytime I see someone ask this question, I see someone answer saying they are working on it, have patience. Soo, yeah..........
wfrandy said:
That is actually not true, no one heard anything from them until they found a promising root method for the Evo 3D.
And it is the same for the Evo, mainly because their is no point in telling everyone something like, "tried that.....that didn't work, tried this......this didn't work either". So I seriously doubt you will hear anything from anyone until someone finds an exploit that works.
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Also keep in mind that these are security exploits. They can't keep them hidden forever, as HTC can basically find out what it is once it's released. But there's no point in publicizing "Hey, we found a huge hole at line 2337 of Rosie.c!!!" and make it easy for HTC to get a head start on patching it.
Maybe I'm blind, but I'm searching all over the dev forum for the incredible 2, there are no official links that explain how to root the phone. Please help, thank you.
I would think that if have been searching you would have read that there is no way to do a software root. You probably would have also read that you can buy an XTC clip to achieve S=Off.
Is this just temporary or will there be a way to software s-off? I'm sorry I have been searching and reading I just don't understand I'm a noob the original incredible was easy to do cause I used unrevoked
Again, if you had been reading, you might have come across a thread that discusses the software method of S=Off.
link me please?
to answer your question... no there is no software unlock yet. It is coming, it has been verified to work and has been done to a few testers.
there is no ETA.
if you need it now, buy an xtc clip and you can unlock it immediately.
lastly, this should be in general, not development.
thanks brah
Sit tight bro. Root will be here soon enough. Add the the thread to your favorites this way you can stay up to date on any news. As for being a noob don't let some of these cats intimidate you with there snooty replies. I'm sure they were never noobs.
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Sit tight bro. Root will be here soon enough. Add the the thread to your favorites this way you can stay up to date on any news. As for being a noob don't let some of these cats intimidate you with there snooty replies. I'm sure they were never noobs.
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Yo thanks alot for the info guys, yeah the snootiness doesnt get to me, to each their own im sure there are a lot of things I could be anal about and act superior towards people who know less about it but that just shows lame character. Hopefully we'll get the software released soon, cheers.
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Yo thanks alot for the info guys, yeah the snootiness doesnt get to me, to each their own im sure there are a lot of things I could be anal about and act superior towards people who know less about it but that just shows lame character. Hopefully we'll get the software released soon, cheers.
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Some people are anal about posting in the wrong section or posting something that's already answered because it clutters up the forum and our mod already has a tough job. That's why I get anal about it
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Some people are anal about posting in the wrong section or posting something that's already answered because it clutters up the forum and our mod already has a tough job. That's why I get anal about it
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There is life beyond the message board, you might want to have a look.
I understand that this is a matter of semantics, but the I2 was rooted long ago...with software. What we're lacking is an unlock to allow root to be permanent (persistent through reboots). You can root now and gain many of the benefits (and problems) of root if you really want to without paying a dime.
Now if you want to use custom firmwares, that requires unlocking. This can be done with a piece of hardware that is available now, or a piece of software that everyone is still waiting on.
Anyone selling an XTC
Im willing to buy anyones used XTC clip for half price....anyone...anyone...
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There is life beyond the message board, you might want to have a look.
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I do...I serve the country of the united states...I fight for the freedom my family, friends, and even people I do not like. I use this for fun and to relax and keep my mind off the fact I may not be home to see my wife..to relax from the fact I will miss my sister and wifes graduations..I use this because my life outside the army is limited currently.
Thanks though.
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I have done some searching and have found two possible routes. One is AlpharevX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132920&page=40) and the other is with the Rebel XTC (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156534&page=5).
The sites are http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/, and http://www.xtcclip.com/.
AlphaRev is still beta though they claim no bricks reported so far. Since it is Beta you are supposed to interactively get a Beta key from their site to activate the software. This key is generated only if it 'likes' the serial number. The latter by the looks of it is a hardware tool which loads on your sd-card. If you go the alpha route then you must manually download and install the viow version of CWM! Still waiting for Unrevoked!
tfoadanny said:
Maybe I'm blind, but I'm searching all over the dev forum for the incredible 2, there are no official links that explain how to root the phone. Please help, thank you.
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Stable software root does not exist for the inc2.
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Can we stop this nonsense argument please.
On a different note, bummer they didn't include the Inc 2 in their public beta. Ah well..
So I just kind of got back into this rooting thing, Ive been so busy with a new kid the last few years I kind of left the scene and am pretty far behind.
anywho, I had a lot of work done jailbreaking 2.2 a long time ago and was thinking of throwing my hat into the 2.3.3 JB race, but I have a question. What is preventing the JB this time? Is it something I shouldn't even bother trying only being 1 person working on it? Am I basically going to have to throw everything I know about jailbreaking out and start new?
Any comments are appreciated.
This will most likely elicit "wtf n00bzorz, u no how 2 uzorz searchs?" types of responses. Not that i'm giving you one, just be prepared.
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jailbreaking.
lolwut?
Well, I just got in the boat of "new EVO's that come with an update from Sprint and can't be rooted". The problem lies in the bootloader not being able to be rooted and can't downgrade the updgrade neither. Supposedly Unlocker team is working at the solution as we speak but no answers yet. There are several theories running around but no solution yet.
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jailbreaking.
lolwut?
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Sorry, rooting, Ive been deep into the ipad2 jailbreak for quite some time now.
Call me skeptical since you have to ask this question.
Anyway, in short, HTC and/or Google patched all the currently known exploits, including gingerbreak. Thus no temp root, no root, no S-OFF.
No hboot downgrade, no tampering with the signed .zip. Plenty of discussion on this elsewhere.
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Call me skeptical since you have to ask this question.
Anyway, in short, HTC and/or Google patched all the currently known exploits, including gingerbreak. Thus no temp root, no root, no S-OFF.
No hboot downgrade, no tampering with the signed .zip. Plenty of discussion on this elsewhere.
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but that post summed it up so perfectly.
Thanks boss.
boss? nah.
Just trying to save everyone time from trying things that have already been tried, and answering your question to boot.
Sorry if I seem harsh, there are alot of wanna be 'root h4x0rz' around here lately.
there was an exploit with the nova game mentioned by lithid, he later updated that he is trying to write C code to use the exploit, but his experience with C is limited, dont think we have heard anything else..
alpharevx team said their exploit would work across all bootloaders with some tweaking , i have not heard anythinng from them either
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So I just kind of got back into this rooting thing, Ive been so busy with a new kid the last few years I kind of left the scene and am pretty far behind.
anywho, I had a lot of work done jailbreaking 2.2 a long time ago and was thinking of throwing my hat into the 2.3.3 JB race, but I have a question. What is preventing the JB this time? Is it something I shouldn't even bother trying only being 1 person working on it? Am I basically going to have to throw everything I know about jailbreaking out and start new?
Any comments are appreciated.
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You should talk to the iPhone dev team. I heard they were close.
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there are alot of wanna be 'root h4x0rz' around here lately.
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LOVE IT! You are so right!
github said:
boss? nah.
Just trying to save everyone time from trying things that have already been tried, and answering your question to boot.
Sorry if I seem harsh, there are alot of wanna be 'root h4x0rz' around here lately.
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I know how the interwebs works No harshness taken.
And I am by no means a wannabe haxors, I cant even spell that way
Just an enthusiast.