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Lets all come together for Root 2.2

Calling all devs who are and who are not working on rooting froyo stock 2.2 ...Lets make this thread a meeting point to discuss the hiccups in rooting the Evo with Froyo and work together some how so we can get this thing done ASAP for the community

strauss0829 said:
Calling all devs who are and who are not working on rooting froyo stock 2.2 ...Lets make this thread a meeting point to discuss the hiccups in rooting the Evo with Froyo and work together some how so we can get this thing done ASAP for the community
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For real...another 2.2 Please Root Me thread???

yes because I am trying to bring the community together to complete this goal

The development and hacker community are already together.

Come together right now, over me!!

Here come old flattop he come grooving up slowly
He got joo-joo eyeball he one holy roller
He got hair down to his knee
Got to be a joker he just do what he please
Come together right now over me
Sorry but I could not resist... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8LZGQ4MkvQ
MrDSL beat me to it...LOL!!!

Posting a suggestion like that is not going to accomplish your goal (organizing a root effort) or help get 2.2 rooted any sooner.
You became the owner of this thread when you hit the "post new thread" button, you have the OP to do with as you wish. This thread isn't going to just start filling with reports of what people have tried. If you want this thread to serve as a "status-of 2.2" thread then find out what people have tried, try some methods yourself. Post the results of your searching and rooting attempts.
If this thread does become a place where people can come and see the current status of the rooting effort it will be because you keep the OP current.
I'm rooted, and I don't know enough to help blaze this trail. I know what a few people have tried and I know what methods some think are promising but I would like to see a breakdown, similar to THIS THREAD.. well, I WAS gonna link a 2.1 Root-Effort thread that was in the Hero forum before Regaw released his guide. I tried a half dozen searches (my search-fu is not weak) and all I found were a few rooting guides and a BILLION "ROOT???" threads...
Anyway, the guy had all of the methods that he had tried and others had submitted listed in detail along with the outcome of each attempt.
Also, I imagine a list like this would help cut down on the redundant threads.

The sticky thread is already hosting a discussion about this. Some of the Unrevoked team is even there.

If someone wants to help me pay for one (haha) I'll get in on it!

MrDSL said:
Come together right now, over me!!
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That's exactly what I was thinking! Lol!
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MrDSL said:
Come together right now, over me!!
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hahahahaha

tgruendler said:
For real...another 2.2 Please Root Me thread???
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Right...you know they should just start merging all these threads...or deleting.
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regaw_leinad said:
If someone wants to help me pay for one (haha) I'll get in on it!
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D..D..D..Dan Wager!! Where you been man?
If anyone can root this thing The Dan Man CAN!

nebenezer said:
D..D..D..Dan Wager!! Where you been man?
If anyone can root this thing The Dan Man CAN!
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Hey man, yeah I wish I had one now, my brother won't let me try anything on his new one. Kinda bummed because I don't have anything to test my ideas on..

well regaw i would love to hear some of ur ideas and maybe the other devs can mess around wit them

If only the impatient woulda flashed unrevoked forever first.....

snandlal said:
If only the impatient woulda flashed unrevoked forever first.....
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Except it didn't exist yet when most people accepted the OTA.

One question. I know there is currently no way to root stock 2.2 but does any one know if any of the amazing developers on here have made any ground at all or does it just not seem not possible.
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No worries
Tiffany84 said:
One question. I know there is currently no way to root stock 2.2 but does any one know if any of the amazing developers on here have made any ground at all or does it just not seem not possible.
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Its possible Nothings Impossible so just keep ur hopes up

Yeah look at my signature... I don't believe in it... lol

[Q] Where to start

Hi, let me start by apologizing for my ignorance but ive always been in love with phones for i dont know how long and i finally have a good one specifically the evo and even though i love phones i no little about the software but i want to learn. can anyone point to the start i want to learn rooting flashing ROMs and kernels the works im not so much interested in developing but that might change once im more knowledgeable in the whole process im just some high school kid so my tech knowledge right now is pretty much zero please help i no everyone here started somewhere so can u tell me where i just want to make my phone as good as possible

Let me ask you this: What software version is on your phone right now? 2.1 or 2.2?

im running 2.2 on my evo

Take a gander at the development forum. There is a guide that was posted just a couple of days ago about rooting 2.2. Great timing for you since this method was only just discovered.
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
Welcome!
Oh..and be sure to do a search in the forums for any issues you may have before posting a question to the forums. Chances are it has already been addressed...unless you enjoy getting flamed.
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Be sure to check out the evo wiki too. It has many guides and tutorials to get you started in the right direction.
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sombdy said:
A piece of advice...after you obtain root access to your phone, be cautious about taking anymore updates from the carrier as these updates often break your root access. Every update is usually followed by a rooted version here in the forums sometimes on the same day or before.
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That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.

SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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LOL! Except we're Android people, so in the spirit of openness, I demand that you make that quote 100% free and available. (kinda like how people bash the unrevoked team about not giving away their methods...)

SilverZero said:
That's what Unrevoked Forever is for, I thought? But still, just because you put on a Kevlar vest doesn't mean you should go around taking shots to the chest. Hey, that rhymes! Copyright.
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True, but wouldn't be plausible for an OTA to be released that turned the security permissions back on and plugged the exploits for rooting? That's why I just say be cautious. UF probably will work "forever" but it's no reason to be careless. Sticking with the rooted ROMs is just a safer bet.
So if you don't want to loose root, give those Sprint OTAs the boot.
Yeah...I'm not copyrighting that. It sucks! lol!
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thanks for all ur help i love this site so full of smart helpful people

[Q] Help rooting Evo4G (Supersonic) with Gingerbread

Hey guys, been looking and tinkering all day with this. Just got a new Evo 4G that came with Gingerbread on it. rEVOked doesn't work on it to root it and I cannot seem to roll it back with an RUU.
Phone Stats:
Android 2.3.3
Baseband 2.15.00.05.02
Build 4.24.651.1 CL61076
Software 4.24.651.1
Any idea what I need to do to root it? Even if I could find a shell process to root and load Clockwork I'd be happy.
Thanks in advance for any help you guys might have for me.

Should have done a search, everyone is going to give you crap for this but, no root for now
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thegreatdustinLO said:
Should have done a search, everyone is going to give you crap for this but, no root for now
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Thanks for that I did search, I've been searching on here, androidcentral, cyanogenmod, xda, google, rEVOked, etc. I have seen some people be able to roll back the RUU but I've had no luck, that's why I posted the question. I understand the search functions on forums, but haven't found a definitive answer. Apparently though, there is no root for devices with 2.3.3? or just the Evo?

The lucky ones that were able to downgrade with an older ruu already have s off. But I know its not just EVO 4G its other devices as well. The sensation just recently hot s off if I'm not mistaken.
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The 2nd poster is right, I'm gonna give you crap, because this is beyond annoying. There are THOUSANDS of posts now, including plenty of threads on the front page of each section that say that there is NO ROOT!!!!!!
I know you 'claim' to have done a search, but there is no WAY you would have posted this if you did, because you would KNOW that it cannot be rooted. This reminds me of the guy that lied to Chef Ramsey on Hell's Kitchen last night....
Either you are too lazy to do a quick search or glance, even on Google, or two naive, so turn in your internet privileges card. It's been revoked....

HipKat said:
The 2nd poster is right, I'm gonna give you crap, because this is beyond annoying. There are THOUSANDS of posts now, including plenty of threads on the front page of each section that say that there is NO ROOT!!!!!!
I know you 'claim' to have done a search, but there is no WAY you would have posted this if you did, because you would KNOW that it cannot be rooted. This reminds me of the guy that lied to Chef Ramsey on Hell's Kitchen last night....
Either you are too lazy to do a quick search or glance, even on Google, or two naive, so turn in your internet privileges card. It's been revoked....
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Really annoying? **** off and learn to spell. I love how you have this big bad persona on the internet to where you want to tell me how annoying I am and claim that I am a liar. If it annoys you, don't ****ing reply, jackass. Forums are areas for discussion, by definition. How about the next reply, you try to help instead of berating someone... or are you 'two naive'?

But in all honesty if you would look at the evo forum you would easily see that there is NO ROOT!
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Blameme said:
But in all honesty if you would look at the evo forum you would easily see that there is NO ROOT!
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You guys are totally right. I'm just some idiot that doesn't deserve to be on here. Even after the hours of my attempts and searching and trying today and then posting a question after everything I've done didn't work... despite seeing some people able to roll back the RUU and then root it. I have no idea why I even attempt to get help. There is always someone who wants to jump in someone's **** for asking a question. I wouldn't have asked if I knew definitively that there was no way to do it. I figured I was in the right area to ask if anyone knew any tricks for this, but apparently I was wrong to ask a question at all.
Thanks for all the 'search for it' replies...oh, and calling me a liar and whatever else will happen itt besides answering a question like an adult.

Dude don't worry about this crap all locked EVO users are pissed right now, including myself lol, check this forum out...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/showthread.php?t=104742
I'll post another one soon, were getting pretty close to root
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171252
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gingercyde said:
Really annoying? **** off and learn to spell. I love how you have this big bad persona on the internet to where you want to tell me how annoying I am and claim that I am a liar. If it annoys you, don't ****ing reply, jackass. Forums are areas for discussion, by definition. How about the next reply, you try to help instead of berating someone... or are you 'two naive'?
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I'm gonna guess those 190+ thanks yous show I help plenty. BTW, PLEASE show me all the misspellings in my post. And don't get all froggy because you just got called out for being ignorant...
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There is always someone who wants to jump in someone's **** for asking a question. I wouldn't have asked if I knew definitively that there was no way to do it. I figured I was in the right area to ask if anyone knew any tricks for this, but apparently I was wrong to ask a question at all.
Thanks for all the 'search for it' replies...oh, and calling me a liar and whatever else will happen itt besides answering a question like an adult.
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You asked a question that has been asked and answered 100's of times on here. If you truly did a search, which I do NOT believe you did, you would have seen it said, over and over and over and over again that there is no way to root your phone with the version of Android you have. There is no mistaking it, no gray area, no maybes. It's been definitely posted in onther posts RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE, there is no root.
typical reaction from someone who just got called out and exposed....

"Hours" of searching, huh? You seriously deserve the crap you've taken. There are even countless posts about attempts to downgrade the RUU. I suggest you actually search next time, instead of lying about it.
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Ha, this OP is. Troll...he did a search my ass, this makes me laugh.
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Moderator please close/delete this thread
OP got as far as 'Read some people were able to roll back RUU',
Why didn't he follow those lines and follow their directions?
And read those same people only verifiable works for s-off phones,
He can read what he WANTS to read.
Plenty of threads on progress of root,
MODERATOR PLEASE CLOSE/DELETE THIS THREAD

gingercyde said:
Really annoying? **** off and learn to spell. I love how you have this big bad persona on the internet to where you want to tell me how annoying I am and claim that I am a liar. If it annoys you, don't ****ing reply, jackass. Forums are areas for discussion, by definition. How about the next reply, you try to help instead of berating someone... or are you 'two naive'?
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just to test a theory i pretended i was newbie coming here to find 2.3.3 root
so i typed "2.3.3 root" on the search box...
that turned about 10 threads in wich any i could easily see that there is still no exploit / root for 2.3.3
now , notice i am not being an ass about it, but its as simple as that bro, if you dont want to put in a wee bit of effort on finding the answers , dont expect people to put in effort to try to answer them either, that is being selfish
but i hope your question is now answered, trust me , you WILL see stickies , you WILL know when root is achieved if you just chek in these forums every couple of days, but for now, dont be suprised if people get mad at you for wasting their time answering stuff that has already been answered a thousand times for the last month

Just gotta say there is a new thread like this every stinking day, sometimes 2 or 3. Any research or just plain looking thru a few threads would have answered your questions.
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HipKat said:
I'm gonna guess those 190+ thanks yous show I help plenty. BTW, PLEASE show me all the misspellings in my post. And don't get all froggy because you just got called out for being ignorant...
You asked a question that has been asked and answered 100's of times on here. If you truly did a search, which I do NOT believe you did, you would have seen it said, over and over and over and over again that there is no way to root your phone with the version of Android you have. There is no mistaking it, no gray area, no maybes. It's been definitely posted in onther posts RIGHT ON THE FRONT PAGE, there is no root.
typical reaction from someone who just got called out and exposed....
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Hey OP ya know HipKat is right sorry..... Not too find an answer on here just means you are not too good at searching....Sorry man but this has got to be thread 1200 on the same topic and like another member has posted a link where serious discussion is going on but you seemed to of missed that as well...lol
Don't get mad at us
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If you read this and are annoyed please post comments in my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178595
Thanks
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gingercyde said:
Really annoying? **** off and learn to spell. I love how you have this big bad persona on the internet to where you want to tell me how annoying I am and claim that I am a liar. If it annoys you, don't ****ing reply, jackass. Forums are areas for discussion, by definition. How about the next reply, you try to help instead of berating someone... or are you 'two naive'?
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If you really searched, you should be ashamed of yourself. Its pretty embarrassing when I count 5 threads in the first 2 pages on this very matter that you some how missed. No excuses. Do a better job next time and you will receive hospitality instead of hostility.
To answer your question. No root for 2.3.
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HipKat said:
The 2nd poster is right, I'm gonna give you crap, because this is beyond annoying. There are THOUSANDS of posts now, including plenty of threads on the front page of each section that say that there is NO ROOT!!!!!!
I know you 'claim' to have done a search, but there is no WAY you would have posted this if you did, because you would KNOW that it cannot be rooted. This reminds me of the guy that lied to Chef Ramsey on Hell's Kitchen last night....
Either you are too lazy to do a quick search or glance, even on Google, or two naive, so turn in your internet privileges card. It's been revoked....
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How do i give you a thumbs up. Sooooo perfectly said.
Edit* Thumbs up found. Dude deserves to be burned. I know he didnt do the look up because google will tell you in two seconds that there is no root.

New OTA

Just a heads up, there is a new ota going out right now.
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old news!
1.theres already a thread about it
2.we already know about the minor update
3. stop posting stuff thats already been posted!

marcviado said:
old news!
1.theres already a thread about it
2.we already know about the minor update
3. stop posting stuff thats already been posted!
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Get a life. If you already knew, then don't open the thread. No need for your two cents.
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kingsway8605 said:
Get a life
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umm, quit crapping up the community with ur poor threads

andybones said:
umm, quit crapping up the community with ur poor threads
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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Now now guys cant we all just get along? So much hostility.

Fasinationinmotion said:
Now now guys cant we all just get along? So much hostility.
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I agree. Just trying to help those who hadn't realized it but apparently there are a few people on here with the maturity of a 12 year old.
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Anyone know if it's safe to patch over the air?

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Anyone know if it's safe to path over the air?
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If you mean will you lose root, the answer is almost always yes.
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kingsway8605 said:
Get a life. If you already knew, then don't open the thread. No need for your two cents.
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haha obviously you have no life but to post crappy threads on here thats alreadys been posted! im surprised your stupidity didnt lead you to posting
this in the dev section!
if your gonna post something at least search if anything relating to what you want to post has already been posted idiot!

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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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dont be posting useless threads in the first place haha

kingsway8605 said:
If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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Honestly no one wants to hear it from some jackass that TALKED SOOOOOOO MUCH **** ABOUT SOFTWARE ROOT ANYWAY. Follow the rules and search before posting useless information that has been already posted! No one cares that you just found this out and you really don't need to open a thread every time you find something new out. This isn't Twitter. This is why the Dinc2 community is CRAP. No one even wants to Dev for us because some of us are ungrateful jerks. People don't forget, and if I recall correctly let me show you how grateful you are.
kingsway8605 "I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening." - Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15419763&postcount=13
go ahead and feel dumb, you should.
kingsway8605 "Sure they don't "advertise" it but they are having their cronies post all over here about some imaginary root. I refer you to my previous post about ignoring it. I would rather not continue to argue with you about something I am obviously right about and risk a mod banning me. When, or actually if, Alphrev releases root, I will admit you were right. But I can promise you that won't happen."
do us all a favor and keep your thoughts to yourself. obviously you type before you think, and I don't care if you said your sorry, you still wrongfully accused the very people who's software YOU are using. they shouldn't have even let you use it personally.
BYE-BYE NOW!

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Honestly no one wants to hear it from some jackass that TALKED SOOOOOOO MUCH **** ABOUT SOFTWARE ROOT ANYWAY. Follow the rules and search before posting useless information that has been already posted! No one cares that you just found this out and you really don't need to open a thread every time you find something new out. This isn't Twitter. This is why the Dinc2 community is CRAP. No one even wants to Dev for us because some of us are ungrateful jerks. People don't forget, and if I recall correctly let me show you how grateful you are.
kingsway8605 "I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening." - Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15419763&postcount=13
go ahead and feel dumb, you should.
kingsway8605 "Sure they don't "advertise" it but they are having their cronies post all over here about some imaginary root. I refer you to my previous post about ignoring it. I would rather not continue to argue with you about something I am obviously right about and risk a mod banning me. When, or actually if, Alphrev releases root, I will admit you were right. But I can promise you that won't happen."
do us all a favor and keep your thoughts to yourself. obviously you type before you think, and I don't care if you said your sorry, you still wrongfully accused the very people who's software YOU are using. they shouldn't have even let you use it personally.
BYE-BYE NOW!
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Seriously, get a life. How long did it take to type that. I didn't even read what you wrote. Stop spamming the forum. Grow up.
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Seriously, get a life. How long did it take to type that. I didn't even read what you wrote. Stop spamming the forum. Grow up.
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It took me a whole 3 minutes tops, because I know how to use the SEARCH button. and I can't SPAM a USELESS thread, this will be deleted once you waste a Mods time and they get around to it.
EDIT: oh, and if I can type faster than you can read, sorry.

its not worth argueing with him andybones,hes obviously an idiot who simply cant do a search before posting a crappy useless thread

I have to check the website. Curious if there is a way to block users who spam the forum. I actually hope a mod deletes it, nobody wants to hear your useless arguing. As for me creating useless threads, I think I have created 3 threads total so far, and one of them helped quite a few people with their alarm clock issues.
For now I am just going to manually ignore you guys. Type away at me, not even going to bother reading them. I will be the mature one.
Edit: wow, just checked my other thread and you argued with someone else in that thread. Do you actually do anything on this site besides argue with others because reading through your comment history it sure seems like all you do is argue, you are ignored for sure.
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kingsway8605 said:
I have to check the website. Curious if there is a way to block users who spam the forum. I actually hope a mod deletes it, nobody wants to hear your useless arguing. As for me creating useless threads, I think I have created 3 threads total so far, and one of them helped quite a few people with their alarm clock issues.
For now I am just going to manually ignore you guys. Type away at me, not even going to bother reading them. I will be the mature one.
Edit: wow, just checked my other thread and you argued with someone else in that thread. Do you actually do anything on this site besides argue with others because reading through your comment history it sure seems like all you do is argue, you are ignored for sure.
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You can ignore me all you want. Truth of the matter is, I do help people. You annoy people. Clearly. I don't even need to justify myself. For how many days did you down talk alpharevX, and now use their product? I highly doubt you donated. and I'm not arguing, I'm responding, and my first post was blowing off a little steam because it's people like you who CRAP these threads up.. it's not wonder all the REAL devs left XDA. useless, ungrateful people like yourself. If you have a problem with my post, report it

Is this OTA dump kosher.
I may not be getting OTA in my location. So I went fishing and came across this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...8-605-4-same-as-the-official-gingerbread-ota/
They claim it is the same as the OTA but since it can be RUU'ed will work on all phones, incl. those with modification to the ROM.
Has anybody tried this one? Also, since I have never gone the RUU route some additional instructions will be most welcome.

sgiitk said:
Is this OTA dump kosher.
I may not be getting OTA in my location. So I went fishing and came across this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...8-605-4-same-as-the-official-gingerbread-ota/
They claim it is the same as the OTA but since it can be RUU'ed will work on all phones, incl. those with modification to the ROM.
Has anybody tried this one? Also, since I have never gone the RUU route some additional instructions will be most welcome.
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If you are not s off, just flash it. If it has been tampered with than the update should fail. It isn't todays ota though, it is the one from a few weeks ago.
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Thanks @kingsway8605. This is the only one I could find. About two weeks old. Any other URL's?
Presumably the flashing involved copying the file (with changed name) to SD card root. Remove the USB cable and then do <volume down> + <power>. I hope the follow up is pretty simple and straight forward. I do not have much Android experience.

[Q] Help!!! rooting wildfire S?

Is there a sure fire way to root the wildfire s not using a xtc clip? if no, could anyone redirect me to a tutorial on how to root using an xtc clip. Thanks in advance

I have an idea......why don't READ THE POSTS FIRST BEFORE POSTING!!!!! PLEASE DON'T BE LAZY......SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST!!!

greyhoundz16 said:
Is there a sure fire way to root the wildfire s not using a xtc clip? if no, could anyone redirect me to a tutorial on how to root using an xtc clip. Thanks in advance
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There is an index thread, all you want to know is in there.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream

Tectas said:
There is an index thread, all you want to know is in there.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
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Except how to use a xtc-clip, but for this google helps you out.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream

Love how all the big brains say "search before post"
Some of us have busy lives and done play WOW in moms basement 24/7. What people like us do however is actually donatate to xda because rather than searching first we were making a living. Linux/android as I see it along with the awesome developers and contributers at xda is the only hope for our rights as consumers not to get abused in the future by apple and Microsoft.
I have learned so much here, but could have used a little less from the "find it cause I did" crowd.
I'm not trying to insult folks, just appealing to them to be more understanding to the PEBCAK crowd ( problem exists between chair and keyboard).
We don't need them buying iPhone's out of frustration. Cut and paste a link and pm it, easier and moves mission forward.
Lawyers from apple are preparing for final assault and with back room deals and hundreds of lobbyists looks like they got a chance to enslave us once again. Especially now after apple vs HTC ruling.
Since I found xda:
Realized the business phone systems my company sells from multiple manufacturers are all Linux and asterisk based and probably bound to open licence agreement's which never get enforced
My 4 and 6 yo are learning Linux with me now.
I tell everyone not to be afraid of the terms used, its easy if you can read and pay attention. Words like root, kernal, bootloader locked or not, dba, cmod.... list goes on forever and can be intimidating.
So us noobs will give cash to those that will serve us info we need, we go out w friends and joke how even a noob can do it with ease..... well you get how it can snowball.
Maybe I'm over sensitive today about latest ruling, and the way it stinks of deception, but it means alot to me.
My kids friend doesn't have internet cause parents can't afford it. Chances are that child won't do as well as mine simply because playing field isn't even. Why because of comcast lobbyists keep low cost internet from them through bribes done right in open.
Its all around us now, we need our devs, the accountants, housewives, and even long winded folks like myself.
Hope apple lawyers get aids from the tranny hookers they hired for the celebration of last ruling.
Peace and love to everyone else.
Ps: One last note to the "search for it" guys, I know this is the wrong thread! Go slam another code red and jack like a lab monkey to vids of chicks I actually can get. And my bots can beat up yours.
Disclaimer: forum admin please pm me for another donation, feel like I owe you guys another one now
Ninja chop,
Rich
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Finding the answer doesn't take more than 20 seconds...( if you have a brain and are willing to use it for 20 seconds )
Probably 10 seconds more than coming back on this thread to check if someone answered your post....
10 seconds man...

ahahahahahhaahhaha, wtff

Where I do see your point in that well crafted reply I'm simply stating that not everyone is created equally.
An example would be me being able to search Google with faster with better results than most of my colleuges. Rather than use the "all capital shout" and make them feel stupid I would just forward the link to Google bolean algorithm tutorial.
Would you like the link?
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And really not looking to insult anyone.
I use my "inner geek" and social skills to advance open source products to people less informed and nervous to make changes.
I'm probably responsible for multiple donations from people who would otherwise keep "the man" fat and happy.
My contribution might not be technical but still is valuable. That entitles me to an opinion.
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already found it last night, after 20 minutes of manual searching each posts. I already did what you all said and suggested, even using google. everytime i searched it always show s-off without xtc clip, or wildfire, not wildfire s, so if you have a brain and think for a sec why would this dude ask for help, then maybe you would have found out that it was not easy to look for some specific answer to your question. Not one of you did even posted a link, which you were saying was easy to find.

you don't root using XTC clip, you S-off your phone with your XTC clip...
once you're S-Off you can root it using the tutorial you can find easily here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325730

here's a pictorial guide for xtc clip
For s-off with xtc clip... Lots of them out there... Here's one I found.
For rooting... I use an app called un-rooting from the market. It's quick, fast and allows you to unroot as well.
Regards,
Rob