Is there a sure fire way to root the wildfire s not using a xtc clip? if no, could anyone redirect me to a tutorial on how to root using an xtc clip. Thanks in advance
I have an idea......why don't READ THE POSTS FIRST BEFORE POSTING!!!!! PLEASE DON'T BE LAZY......SEARCH BEFORE YOU POST!!!
greyhoundz16 said:
Is there a sure fire way to root the wildfire s not using a xtc clip? if no, could anyone redirect me to a tutorial on how to root using an xtc clip. Thanks in advance
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There is an index thread, all you want to know is in there.
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There is an index thread, all you want to know is in there.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
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Except how to use a xtc-clip, but for this google helps you out.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream
Love how all the big brains say "search before post"
Some of us have busy lives and done play WOW in moms basement 24/7. What people like us do however is actually donatate to xda because rather than searching first we were making a living. Linux/android as I see it along with the awesome developers and contributers at xda is the only hope for our rights as consumers not to get abused in the future by apple and Microsoft.
I have learned so much here, but could have used a little less from the "find it cause I did" crowd.
I'm not trying to insult folks, just appealing to them to be more understanding to the PEBCAK crowd ( problem exists between chair and keyboard).
We don't need them buying iPhone's out of frustration. Cut and paste a link and pm it, easier and moves mission forward.
Lawyers from apple are preparing for final assault and with back room deals and hundreds of lobbyists looks like they got a chance to enslave us once again. Especially now after apple vs HTC ruling.
Since I found xda:
Realized the business phone systems my company sells from multiple manufacturers are all Linux and asterisk based and probably bound to open licence agreement's which never get enforced
My 4 and 6 yo are learning Linux with me now.
I tell everyone not to be afraid of the terms used, its easy if you can read and pay attention. Words like root, kernal, bootloader locked or not, dba, cmod.... list goes on forever and can be intimidating.
So us noobs will give cash to those that will serve us info we need, we go out w friends and joke how even a noob can do it with ease..... well you get how it can snowball.
Maybe I'm over sensitive today about latest ruling, and the way it stinks of deception, but it means alot to me.
My kids friend doesn't have internet cause parents can't afford it. Chances are that child won't do as well as mine simply because playing field isn't even. Why because of comcast lobbyists keep low cost internet from them through bribes done right in open.
Its all around us now, we need our devs, the accountants, housewives, and even long winded folks like myself.
Hope apple lawyers get aids from the tranny hookers they hired for the celebration of last ruling.
Peace and love to everyone else.
Ps: One last note to the "search for it" guys, I know this is the wrong thread! Go slam another code red and jack like a lab monkey to vids of chicks I actually can get. And my bots can beat up yours.
Disclaimer: forum admin please pm me for another donation, feel like I owe you guys another one now
Ninja chop,
Rich
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Finding the answer doesn't take more than 20 seconds...( if you have a brain and are willing to use it for 20 seconds )
Probably 10 seconds more than coming back on this thread to check if someone answered your post....
10 seconds man...
ahahahahahhaahhaha, wtff
Where I do see your point in that well crafted reply I'm simply stating that not everyone is created equally.
An example would be me being able to search Google with faster with better results than most of my colleuges. Rather than use the "all capital shout" and make them feel stupid I would just forward the link to Google bolean algorithm tutorial.
Would you like the link?
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And really not looking to insult anyone.
I use my "inner geek" and social skills to advance open source products to people less informed and nervous to make changes.
I'm probably responsible for multiple donations from people who would otherwise keep "the man" fat and happy.
My contribution might not be technical but still is valuable. That entitles me to an opinion.
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already found it last night, after 20 minutes of manual searching each posts. I already did what you all said and suggested, even using google. everytime i searched it always show s-off without xtc clip, or wildfire, not wildfire s, so if you have a brain and think for a sec why would this dude ask for help, then maybe you would have found out that it was not easy to look for some specific answer to your question. Not one of you did even posted a link, which you were saying was easy to find.
you don't root using XTC clip, you S-off your phone with your XTC clip...
once you're S-Off you can root it using the tutorial you can find easily here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1325730
here's a pictorial guide for xtc clip
For s-off with xtc clip... Lots of them out there... Here's one I found.
For rooting... I use an app called un-rooting from the market. It's quick, fast and allows you to unroot as well.
Regards,
Rob
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Maybe I'm blind, but I'm searching all over the dev forum for the incredible 2, there are no official links that explain how to root the phone. Please help, thank you.
I would think that if have been searching you would have read that there is no way to do a software root. You probably would have also read that you can buy an XTC clip to achieve S=Off.
Is this just temporary or will there be a way to software s-off? I'm sorry I have been searching and reading I just don't understand I'm a noob the original incredible was easy to do cause I used unrevoked
Again, if you had been reading, you might have come across a thread that discusses the software method of S=Off.
link me please?
to answer your question... no there is no software unlock yet. It is coming, it has been verified to work and has been done to a few testers.
there is no ETA.
if you need it now, buy an xtc clip and you can unlock it immediately.
lastly, this should be in general, not development.
thanks brah
Sit tight bro. Root will be here soon enough. Add the the thread to your favorites this way you can stay up to date on any news. As for being a noob don't let some of these cats intimidate you with there snooty replies. I'm sure they were never noobs.
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Sit tight bro. Root will be here soon enough. Add the the thread to your favorites this way you can stay up to date on any news. As for being a noob don't let some of these cats intimidate you with there snooty replies. I'm sure they were never noobs.
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Yo thanks alot for the info guys, yeah the snootiness doesnt get to me, to each their own im sure there are a lot of things I could be anal about and act superior towards people who know less about it but that just shows lame character. Hopefully we'll get the software released soon, cheers.
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Yo thanks alot for the info guys, yeah the snootiness doesnt get to me, to each their own im sure there are a lot of things I could be anal about and act superior towards people who know less about it but that just shows lame character. Hopefully we'll get the software released soon, cheers.
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Some people are anal about posting in the wrong section or posting something that's already answered because it clutters up the forum and our mod already has a tough job. That's why I get anal about it
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Some people are anal about posting in the wrong section or posting something that's already answered because it clutters up the forum and our mod already has a tough job. That's why I get anal about it
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There is life beyond the message board, you might want to have a look.
I understand that this is a matter of semantics, but the I2 was rooted long ago...with software. What we're lacking is an unlock to allow root to be permanent (persistent through reboots). You can root now and gain many of the benefits (and problems) of root if you really want to without paying a dime.
Now if you want to use custom firmwares, that requires unlocking. This can be done with a piece of hardware that is available now, or a piece of software that everyone is still waiting on.
Anyone selling an XTC
Im willing to buy anyones used XTC clip for half price....anyone...anyone...
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I do...I serve the country of the united states...I fight for the freedom my family, friends, and even people I do not like. I use this for fun and to relax and keep my mind off the fact I may not be home to see my wife..to relax from the fact I will miss my sister and wifes graduations..I use this because my life outside the army is limited currently.
Thanks though.
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I have done some searching and have found two possible routes. One is AlpharevX (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132920&page=40) and the other is with the Rebel XTC (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156534&page=5).
The sites are http://alpharev.nl/x/beta/, and http://www.xtcclip.com/.
AlphaRev is still beta though they claim no bricks reported so far. Since it is Beta you are supposed to interactively get a Beta key from their site to activate the software. This key is generated only if it 'likes' the serial number. The latter by the looks of it is a hardware tool which loads on your sd-card. If you go the alpha route then you must manually download and install the viow version of CWM! Still waiting for Unrevoked!
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Maybe I'm blind, but I'm searching all over the dev forum for the incredible 2, there are no official links that explain how to root the phone. Please help, thank you.
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Stable software root does not exist for the inc2.
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Can we stop this nonsense argument please.
On a different note, bummer they didn't include the Inc 2 in their public beta. Ah well..
Huge thanks to the admins for listening to our voices!
Let's hope for a stronger development for our WFS from now on.
Here we come steaming from behind!
What?! Why are you doing it?
Will never be undone. The scene will die even quicker now it is not on the main forum page.
Well, this is just not justified. The original HTC Wildfire keeps its position on the "Promised Land" while its successor is trashed here?! Other than that I can call some more devices which are less "popular" than Wildfire S but they still get to keep their position on the front page.
The main outcome is that the Wildfire S Android development will drop vigorously. Not that it's something special right now. XDA doomed our phone to development mediocrity and there is nothing we can do about it!
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Will never be undone. The scene will die even quicker now it is not on the main forum page.
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Always the pessimist, but I've gotta admit, it's not going anywhere at all.
I don't understand why.
If the devs work together, the job will be done faster.
I guess the begging letter didn't help much.
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This nonsense is stupid.
Calm down guys.
Here is a list with xtc clip owners: Click
Check the country and pm the person, if you want s-off!
I will be s-off with xtc clip in two weeks
Then I can test my own hensemods first
Hit thanks when I helped!
That's not good news. Grey clouds is the only person who can give us good news right about now..
This blows
Read title ^
Without wanting to offend mods or admins, I think that the decision to put a 8-9 month old phone on the "Legacy & Low Activity Devices" area is an enormous disrespect to us (I'm being SOFT), owner of such devices.
It's something that seems to be made without even thinking about the consequences.
There are many other devices that should be dead on the main forum page for ages, but still have their position of "glory" there.
Those devices were launched two or more years ago, without any future upgrade in sight. Do you think this is rational? Honestly! I don't think so.
I think that now, even more than before devs should stick together and show that the Wildfire S is NOT a legacy device and much less a low activity device.
I didn't come to this forum for 2 or 3 days due to a very tight work schedule and now I saw this... I am shocked and disappointed with XDA.
My post has nothing to do with the existence of XTC-Clips and the possibility of rooting the WFS almost all around the world. I think that matter is offtopic.
It's just plain nonsense to "archive" a phone with a recent RUU update, with development going on, with users posting every single day, with users needing support and with HTC still having plans for this phone.
It's like HTC saying:"Your phone is 8 months old but we decided that it isn't supported anymore. Don't ask why. We don't care about you."
Sorry for my angry post. Once again I want to say that I don't intend to disrespect who manages this forums. I appreciate your work but this action is IMHO 1000 steps backwards for a respectable community of WFS owners.
Please, pretty please with sugar on top, consider undoing this.
Like other user said, you still have the "old" Wildfire on the main forums and already "deleted" the successor. Where is the logic?!
Please don't make the HTC Wildfire S be invisible. It's like you hate this phone and intentionally want it do die early. That's not fair. I would call it poor judgement but I'm afraid of hurting your feelings. I'm not here for that.
I like to help as much as I can. I have a hard job so my time isn't that much... but still I've shown that if people need my help, I try to be responsive.
Many people upgraded their WFS with my help. I don't want to be pretentious or have credit. I just expect this behavior from XDA, that usaully is a good and reliable source of information.
My most honest respect!
I totally agree with you miguelca.
WFS should be on top of the XDA page because he is still unlokcable.
This phone should be the priority of the community
I agree. The WFS is a great phone. Please put it back
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It's not about the S-Off. In my country - Bulgaria, I can easily go and pay about 15 euros for that service. No problem. What really bothers me is that our phone is going to sink in oblivion before it has been given the chance to grow and develop!
I'm sorry XDA, but this is freakin' unjust and unacceptable!
miguelca, kudos for your elaborate opinion!
Where is the moderator of this section?Pls respond couse this is nonsence...
I can't believe.
It's not 10 years old, it's only few months old!!!
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You get the feeling HTC is afraid of this low cost phone and wish they hadn't released it?
Now XDA joins the sweep it under the table bandwagon...What next. Someone comes in the middle of the night and steals it off my desk and "disappears" it.
wildfire on main page and WILDFIRE S on Legacy & Low Activity Devices, u must be kidding adm.....
I'm thinking HTC has asked or paid for our WFS to be pushed aside, maybe because they are finished developing for it and have no plans on unlocking bootloader. If so someone (XDA) has sold us out.
We need three little things to keep the development and forum for the Wildfire S alive:
1/ Stop obsessing over HTC's unlocked bootloader. We need FULL S-OFF and SIM card unlocking. HTC doesn't care. Repeat after me...HTC Doesn't care.
2/ Shake out your pockets if you can and get your devices XTC-Clipped. For the cost of it vs the effort put into trying to get around it. We need a bunch of S-OFF'd phones and developers to not be relegated to the boneyard. If software S-OFF is possible that will be awesome but in the mean while check the thread about local clippers to hopefully find someone close to you where you can go and get it done.
3/Focus on what we CAN change soonest. Getting back on the main forums. This is the most likely thing to happen with the least effort to keep us current and visible to other WFS users and developers looking for a home.
So get through wasting time on item 1, spend some money on item 2 or chip into the dev process and let's all work on petitioning for item 3.
So check out the threads in my signature and find your local XTC Clip owner and let's get this forum moving.
Thanks to all those still making development efforts and efforts to raise awareness of this great little phone that could.
Cheers.
B
FYI,the only reason I can't buy an xtc-clip is that I can't afford it, and no shopkeeper even knows what an xtc-clip is!!!It costs around 7000 rupees in India(that a heck lot costly for a 16 year old with a monthly allowance of 500 rupees). I am trying to get it from some guys at XDA but noone is replying to PM'S......Not everyone is lucky in finding or getting an S-OFF.......
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FYI,the only reason I can't buy an xtc-clip is that I can't afford it, and no shopkeeper even knows what an xtc-clip is!!!It costs around 7000 rupees in India(that a heck lot costly for a 16 year old with a monthly allowance of 500 rupees). I am trying to get it from some guys at XDA but noone is replying to PM'S......Not everyone is lucky in finding or getting an S-OFF.......
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Understandable.
Doesn't change the fact that focusing on our own solution will likely pay more dividends then waiting for an unmotivated HTC to do something.
Software S-OFF is in the list. Beg, borrowing, or stealing an XTC clip is in the list.
Group buying of one is in there too.
Essentially anything to get S-OFF users and Dev's to fan the fire under the Wildfire S
Regards,
DS
Agree with csoulr666 on this one. The XTC clip isn't a viable option for many of us. It's way too heavily priced for many of us (about 20% of the cost of the phone itself) and plus, it's not easily available in many countries like India. In fact, people don't know what an XTC clip is!
I'd like to believe in Group buys and campaigns but they don't always work as intended, do they?
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Agree with csoulr666 on this one. The XTC clip isn't a viable option for many of us. It's way too heavily priced for many of us (about 20% of the cost of the phone itself) and plus, it's not easily available in many countries like India. In fact, people don't know what an XTC clip is!
I'd like to believe in Group buys and campaigns but they don't always work as intended, do they?
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So it won't work for everyone but there are plenty of people who it will. It's about raising awareness that that thread and the option to go to someone local like myself exists.
My offer to clip phones for anyone on this forum still stands. I want to see things move forward for us.
Maybe first thing is to get us back on the main forum page now that we have CM7.2 with 9.0 on it's way.
People should research before purchasing the phone then. Gotta understand the risks and what is available before purchasing.
awareness
In all honesty alquez has pretty much put the WFS on the map; no disrespect to any other developers. Having:
a viable [yet unofficial] build of cwm
a viable [yet unofficial] build of cm7
This will, if it has not already, get the attention of some heavyweight devs.
Perhaps they will review and brand it official; perhaps we go on making unofficial stuff until someone notices. I just have to give him a huge thumbs up though when it comes to recognition of our phone model.
Rob
Yeah Alquez is king of wildfire s definetely He is doing so much for wilfire s community...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20051740
That's the tut I used to get s-off on my phone worked great
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PoGoP said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20051740
That's the tut I used to get s-off on my phone worked great
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Good for you.
But we all now that that is possible for CDMA device for some time,so you did not said nothing new.
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Good for you.
But we all now that that is possible for CDMA device for some time,so you did not said nothing new.
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We really do need a sub forum for all these S-off threads...
Sorry. From the stuff I read on here I had not seen anything about anyone else on us cellular getting s-off. Only stuff I found was about virgin Mobil phone. So again I am sorry for repeating a known fact
I am still kinda new to this
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PoGoP said:
Sorry. From the stuff I read on here I had not seen anything about anyone else on us cellular getting s-off. Only stuff I found was about virgin Mobil phone. So again I am sorry for repeating a known fact
I am still kinda new to this
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If your phone is a510c, you can s-off it by the method used by virgin mobile users..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
works on widlfire s apparently.
I sold mine but though you guys might like this
Edit :: apologies GSM users this will not work on your Wildfire S
Feel free to delete this thread
Doesn't work.
Tools
l00k said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114
works on widlfire s apparently.
I sold mine but though you guys mihgt like this
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I had spied that awhile ago. Finally tested it marvelc side; didn't work except for the desensing/resensing. That works from all indications.
I also found an apk on the market I've mentioned a few times that does root/unroot; It's called un-Rooting [and the subtitles are in a language I can't read; but it works marvelc side][anyone care to test it gsm side?]; busybox [installer] also available on market. I've found market apps to be easy advice.
As for gsm'ers only known tool [still] to work is the xtc clip; which is a small hardware device one can order for around $40; Simonsimon34 has the latest s-off guide for marvelc.
Alquez's cwm works on both cdma & gsm
Thought I'd drop mention of these tools again.
Rob
PS I found a really useful market app that was started here on xda.. ZDbox I got to find the thread and thank the developer, but it has battery percentage/status & power-saver, task killer, app uninstaller/management [inc Apps2sd], and System Cleaner [cache & history]. Can replace 4-5 apps with this one. Good good end-user tool.
Another misleading thread. l00k, please ask a mod to delete this.
It's already proven that it doesn't work on GSM phones.
The Wildfire S is already full of information on how to s-off CDMA phones.
There is no need to confuse more people.
I guess I can speak on behalf of all WFS GSM users. Please delete this. PLEASE!
Who created the Super Tool and who posted a thread about it on XDA should first confirm if the information is correct. It DOESN'T work on Wildfire S except CDMA versions.
In case you still didn't get it, this is NOT directed to you. It's a general complaint:
It's incredible that so many people post things just because somebody says it works.
Wouldn't it be smarter to confirm first and post after? I'm not talking about you, l00k.
I'm really tired of reading the same crap over and over again, including the people that almost want to force us to buy a XTC Clip. Some say it isn't rocket science because we can sell it after using... but maybe some people just don't have the time, patience or money to do that. It's easy to talk about ourselves. I guess some people should learn how to walk in other people's shoes.
A simple "Doesn't work on GSM" would of done the trick.
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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A simple "Doesn't work on GSM" would of done the trick.
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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Are you happy now that you've insulted someone that didn't disrespect you?
Congratulations for your smart post. Seriously! I love when people are rude and unpolite. It just shows their character.
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Are you happy now that you've insulted someone that didn't disrespect you?
Congratulations for your smart post. Seriously! I love when people are rude and unpolite. It just shows their character.
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*sigh*
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l00k said:
You don't get S-OFF for being a ****
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
Look guys... this dude read something and posted it to try and be helpful. Don't throw stones at him just explain.
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question
Although this thread is a repeat and will get deleted because... well if you read it, its just not what xda is about. Even so, I will ask a gsm'r does this tool seem to perform only zerg-rush, desense and resense like on cdma side? Or does nothing work, differences? It does not work for root cdma side, unroot fails, and the methodology is different so I doubt it would s-off on our side. I will contact the developer to specify partial functionality with WFS but no s-off (upon gsm analysis confirmation). Discuss.
Rob
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Look guys... this dude read something and posted it to try and be helpful. Don't throw stones at him just explain.
Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer
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Nobody threw stones at him in the first place.
I explained why this thread should be removed and also took the opportunity to talk about other annoying habits. I think it's pretty clear I wasn't referring to l00k, so I really don't understand why he replied that way.
It seems that he accepted the general criticism as it was directed only to him.
Thanks to d33ps1x for his support. I try my best to help the community and suddendly I get called a ****...
How about an apology instead?
This kind of thread leads to nothing but legacy again...
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
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I apologised in my initial post to GSM users but I wont apologise for my reaction to what was in no way a supportive and useful reply from Migualca. In fact its the most annoying thing anyone has ever said to me since joining these forums backl in 2006. Tact is a wonderful thing (jk)
Anyway this was posted to help and I genuinely do hope you guys get your software S-OFF. I've still got my blacklisted wildfire S and would be willing to rip its guts out testing tools like this to help.
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Seriously dude. Migualca is anything but that.
One of the most supportive and helpful people around here...Behind myself of course. LOL jk
I think an apology would be in order.
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Besides already having clicked "thanks" I felt the need to express my gratitude for your post.
You are also very supportive and helpful, the kind of user XDA needs.
There is one thing on earth that I don't tolerate to ANYBODY: lack of respect/education. That's why my motto is: don't disrespect others if you don't want to be disrespected.
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l00k said:
I apologised in my initial post to GSM users but I wont apologise for my reaction to what was in no way a supportive and useful reply from Migualca. In fact its the most annoying thing anyone has ever said to me since joining these forums backl in 2006. Tact is a wonderful thing (jk)
Anyway this was posted to help and I genuinely do hope you guys get your software S-OFF. I've still got my blacklisted wildfire S and would be willing to rip its guts out testing tools like this to help.
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A smart sentence that you should embrace too.
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Nobody threw stones at him in the first place.
I explained why this thread should be removed and also took the opportunity to talk about other annoying habits. I think it's pretty clear I wasn't referring to l00k, so I really don't understand why he replied that way.
It seems that he accepted the general criticism as it was directed only to him.
Thanks to d33ps1x for his support. I try my best to help the community and suddendly I get called a ****...
How about an apology instead?
This kind of thread leads to nothing but legacy again...
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I only read the first and few last posts. It saves a lot of time. I myself pm'd the mod of this forums asking him to move it back. He did. Look at the wfs to legacy post
Anyway. Sorry if I miss understood the argument. I just saw one man trying to defend himself
Sent from somewhere too far away from my computer
Someone brave enough?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416015
This may work.
miguelca said:
Besides already having clicked "thanks" I felt the need to express my gratitude for your post.
You are also very supportive and helpful, the kind of user XDA needs.
There is one thing on earth that I don't tolerate to ANYBODY: lack of respect/education. That's why my motto is: don't disrespect others if you don't want to be disrespected.
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A smart sentence that you should embrace too.
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Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you think it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
Tectas said:
Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you thing it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did it they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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Don't worry tectas. This is definitely my last post about this bad soap-opera.
l00k doesn't care to reread my first post and doesn't want to admit that there is a part he must have overlooked or misunderstood. Some people want to be always on top, even when they have no arguments and need to use rude language. Just one simple conclusion: l00k wrote 212 posts since September 2006 and got 9 thanks. I'm here since June 2010, wrote 114 posts (before this one) and got 51 thanks.
I rest my case.
Tectas said:
Guys, sry but pls stop it.
As much as i can see both of you told things that could be spelled another way
Miguelca i know, your pissed (sry for the bad spelling, but i think it hits the point) on, because you thought there finally is a way for gsm users to s-off their device without xtc and you where disappointed once more, but because of this it shouldn't be delteted, it should be marked like others with cdma only. I know it's hard and i also know you done much for the community, but try to be happy for others that they got one more option, i'm sure there will come a way for gsm users finally.
And 100k, sry but your rudness wasn't correct and your really should apology for it, there are other ways to tell such things than such a bad language.
At this point Miguelca is right, you should bring more respect to others, if he tells something that you think it's not true or should be handled another way, express it in a normal way not like you did. It's much more constructive and others can accept it or/and discuss it with you, but like you did they get angry and things get badder not better, so pls be patient next time and tell what you want to tell as smooth as you can.
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I think you are right about not deleting the posts like this and renaming them. If other posts hadn't been deleted (and I did search on the subject before posting) then I would have seen it was cdma only.
Sorry for calling you a **** miguelca it wasn't very nice and I should have elaborated a little more as to why your comment and comments like them annoy me so much. I don't spend much time in the wfs section anymore I saw the article in an rss feed from another android site and thought about you guys. I saw no other posts about the unlock tool so thought i'd share it. Seeing as this site is international and this section is not just about gsm phones it is a valid thread. Try not to jump on people so quickly.
FYI the thanks button hasn't been there since the dawn of time.
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l00k said:
I think you are right about not deleting the posts like this and renaming them. If other posts hadn't been deleted (and I did search on the subject before posting) then I would have seen it was cdma only.
Sorry for calling you a **** miguelca it wasn't very nice and I should have elaborated a little more as to why your comment and comments like them annoy me so much. I don't spend much time in the wfs section anymore I saw the article in an rss feed from another android site and thought about you guys. I saw no other posts about the unlock tool so thought i'd share it. Seeing as this site is international and this section is not just about gsm phones it is a valid thread. Try not to jump on people so quickly.
FYI the thanks button hasn't been there since the dawn of time.
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I already said that I wouldn't post again about this subject but now I have to.
l00k, thanks for publicly admitting that your comment wasn't very nice and for apologising. I appreciate your gesture.
You didn't explain why I annoyed you so much with my words and that's why I didn't understand the reaction from your side.
Thanks for your intention to help this community and sorry for jumping so quickly on you with a "hard" comment.
As you know a big part of my post wasn't directed to you, but I get the idea...
In the future I will try not to "jump on people" so quickly.
Oh and BTW I know the thanks button isn't available since the beginning.
This was just a way to show you that in general my comments are well accepted and also thanked for. No regrets. Peace.
Remember how in High School or College you would have to DO YOUR RESEARCH to find your information before turning it in to your teacher or professor?...So far in the past 12 months this XDA School Research Skill and Overall GPA has dropped. In this SGSII class of the school, we are bringing our GPA up, and now we are on a level thats "considered passing". I was a new student in this class about 2 weeks ago and everyone made me feel like I was at home, but the rest of the school im not to sure about. XDA school was the one everyone went to about everything Android. Now since the teachers and students are slowly turning in degrees, we are loosing a lot of our students and teachers to other schools. We cannot let this happen because this is where it all started. We have to start gaining the quality of our school back, our prestige is dropping.
So lets get started...
Instead of teachers having to spend extra time assisting students, students should learn to RESEARCH and Experiment on their own time. Teachers only volunteer at this school. No paychecks, pensions, workman's compensation, just breaks and retiremen. Teachers should help students more and explain things more in a detailed fashion. XDA School is changing so we have to change with it. Dont fight it, go with the flow and make it work for everyone. There has to be a line to draw in the middle, where students can help one another, troubleshoot, and have fun with the teachers. Im a teacher myself and comming up with lesson plans that will hold everyone in the class over until I write a new one is not easy. Sleep is lost, donations are good, but overall not good enough to deal with the stress in our personal lives because we all go through it. Competition is always present but thats no excuse for teachers to critique other teachers. We may not be together in reality but we are a community, so lets act like it.
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good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them...
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to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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I just thought it more people were aware of the issues we would be able to fix them together. Ill just have the principle close the class down if students and or teachers start to bring it down.
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AllGamer said:
to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
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Thats such a shame, i have been around since android rooting started and being here on XDA was considered a privilege
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I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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xsteven77x said:
I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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The worse part about it is, the quality of the issues people report in threads. Most of the time they are "non issue issues" Meaning its not a bug in the ROM just a problem that they are having.
They will post their problem and hope for someone to get a fix for them and get upset when people flame them. The people who can fix the problem have no right to flame either. Fighting fire with fire has become way to common here. The people dont say things like "I looked online in such and such place but i dont understand what its telling me, or this method is outdated any updates on it", nothing like that, that shows they were putting fourth an effort in the first place. It was such a joy for me to research and learn because it led me to create ROMs and themes. I felt a lot better when I figured out how to fix my own problems and it made me a better Rooted android user.
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
Agreed..
DARKSIDE...join us we have nice treats T989
jessejames111981 said:
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
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Yea brother, i mean ill say yea again to that one. If people actually paid for me to deliver week in and week out id quit my day job seriously to work right here from home.
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
I was here from the start with the G1, granted out was a few months after the release, buy nonetheless I did my own research asked questions when I was TRULY stuck and solved my own problems by searching the threads/forums. People come in here (XDA) and "flame" one another for asking a question and folks that come in here creating threads and posts REPEATEDLY about the same topic. It honestly needs to be stopped and monitored more closely because all it does is clutter threads and makes it difficult for those trying to do it on their own.
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I haven't been here as long as most but since I joined when I purchased my evo it went from thank you to gimme gimme. Not to mention the flame fests,including entire threads filled with pics about the ensuing flame fest. Infractions should start being issued a lot more frequently and even to the point of issuing them to the members who post nothing questions over and over again and get in a tiff when they don't get an answer for "why is my phone crashing after I didn't wipe from cm7 to sense"anyways just wish it would go back to respect and appreciation.
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as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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hunterjay7 said:
as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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I see what your saying but that defeats the purpose, if i create a market error thread, then theyll ask for just about everything, the flood gates would open right up. If people would stop being lazy then everything would be ok.
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jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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Lol
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~synergy v0.10
jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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lmfao 10char
_Thursday said:
???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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Its an inside joke (a good one too) based on the amount of bounty threads he does and how quick he is to start them.
Reading this thread bummed me out. I'm somewhat new to all of this, and in the last couple of months have learned an INSANE amount about the android OS and how to make it "mine". I would have never been able to do so without the much appreciated help of all the knowledgeable people here on XDA. Yes, I agree, there are a crazy amount of duplicate posts, and pricks, and mindless idiots who for some reason have no issue posting a bash on a hard working dev for no apparent reason (f#& k those morons). Here is my question. What do you think of someone like me, who asks questions when he is stuck, and probably will continue to do so whenever he is hopelessly stuck, but always shows appreciation for valuable help received? There seem to be plenty of people here who enjoy helping noobs like me. I've helped a few, and it felt pretty good.
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