In every game I have played its lagged, I decided to download some apps that showed fps and it shows applications keep varying from 60fps, then seemingly becoming locked at 50 moments later. Can anyone download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle and report back please.
This.is.normal!
It cannot be a locked 60 fps framerate. This is Android we are talking about, not iOS.
Its literally not normal though, I have a galaxy s6 and it is locked to a solid 60fps, its not an intensive app, its literally a 2d bouncing ball
Ultimately I decided that I was very dissatisfied with the performance of the HTC 10 due to this, so it's going back for a refund.
50fps FIX HERE!
Kudos to @ivicask , this issue is fixed in the latest PnP mod test build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68138407&postcount=356
Remember to select Performance Profile in aroma installer.
And remember to give ivicask a thanks click!
Problem solved.
It wasn't a particular game, it was any game I played. Especially noticeable in 2D games. I've never had this problem on the galaxy s6 or any other phone for that matter. If you want to check for me to see if its the same on all htc 10s, then download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle icon and report back what it says.
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It wasn't a particular game, it was any game I played. Especially noticeable in 2D games. I've never had this problem on the galaxy s6 or any other phone for that matter. If you want to check for me to see if its the same on all htc 10s, then download an app called fps test, it has an orange circle icon and report back what it says.
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It was about 57-58 at start or with touch screen interaction(hold your finger on the screen). If you leave it be it will be throttled down to 50fps, seemingly a power saving feature(or a bug).
TeroZ said:
It was about 57-58 at start or with touch screen interaction(hold your finger on the screen). If you leave it be it will be throttled down to 50fps, seemingly a power saving feature(or a bug).
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It seems like a very annoying power saving feature if that is truly what it is, it seems to accomplish making things feel less fluid.
Fps test app is clearly not optimised for HTC 10. Download 3DMark for more accurate results. Run on your S6 and HTC10, you'll soon leave your S6 behind. Or use your S6 to play games on the go and buy a PC/console for proper gaming.
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It seems like a very annoying power saving feature if that is truly what it is, it seems to accomplish making things feel less fluid.
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I've just found out that enabling high performance mode in developer options can lift the 50fps lock. Give it a try
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purple patch said:
Fps test app is clearly not optimised for HTC 10. Download 3DMark for more accurate results. Run on your S6 and HTC10, you'll soon leave your S6 behind. Or use your S6 to play games on the go and buy a PC/console for proper gaming.
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This is not the case I'm afraid. It seems that HTC used fps lock to preserve battery life. On the contrary, HTC "optimized" for famous benchmarks like 3dmarks by loosing throttling policies.
I consider locking GPU at 50fps on a 60hz refresh rate screen is kind of a bad move.
You might need to look at CleanSlate kernel, if you are rooted You will be amazed.
Thank you for your response, yeah enabling high performance mode does seem to remove the 50fps however there are still some stutters (none of gs6 although running custom rom), and high performance mode will eat my battery. Don't suppose you know if any custom roms fix this issue?
Black_Eyes said:
You might need to look at CleanSlate kernel, if you are rooted You will be amazed.
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If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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I think if you have s-off then it's possible
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If you root a htc and install the custom kernel, is there a way to return to stock without htc knowing that it has been rooted or whatever?
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They cannot discover that you have rooted your phone when you return fully to stock. But they can see that your bootloader was unlocked. You can always lock it, but it wont say "locked", it will say "relocked". That shouldnt be a problem for warranty purposes imo.
I have the same problem.my HTC 10 most of the time locked at 50 fps(when I release finger from screen) and it is very unusual in flagships such as gs7 or gs6.
Maybe HTC give an update to solve this issue
I also tried high performance option but it takes a lot of battery charge.
Is there anyone else have this problem?any suggestion? I don't wanna root my device for guarantee purposes
Someone please report this issue to HTC support.
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They cannot discover that you have rooted your phone when you return fully to stock. But they can see that your bootloader was unlocked. You can always lock it, but it wont say "locked", it will say "relocked". That shouldnt be a problem for warranty purposes imo.
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You can even get the 'locked' flag if you're S-OFF
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Thank you for your response, yeah enabling high performance mode does seem to remove the 50fps however there are still some stutters (none of gs6 although running custom rom), and high performance mode will eat my battery. Don't suppose you know if any custom roms fix this issue?
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You can disable PnPMgr if you don't want to use high performance mode to achieve the same effect. PnPMgr is HTC's proprietary power manager, disabling it may have an impact on battery life as well but looking at stats the difference isn't that huge in my case.
To disable pnpmgr, you'll need root and download a free app called "Kernel Toolkit". In the app there's a switch called "Pnpmgr" under the tab "Power", disable it.
@andy010101
long breath, here goes
HTC unlike all the previous, really put a leash on the HTC 10 SoC, remember "powerbotics" in their marketing? well it really means is Snapdragon 820 cripple, yet non of the s820 devices like G5/Mi5/OP3 suffer from this, HTC probably did this to squeeze some juice out of battery but don't we have powersaver modes for this? so why cheat...
this is whats going on stock HTC 10:
- The fourth BIG core, out of the two faster cores (which also benefit from bigger cache) will be disabled (via task migration) once battery is around 35c (which is the nominal operation temp anyway) so most of the time unless dead cold the device will be running without one of the big kryo cores, this is noticable in a multithreaded game like Dead Effect 2 which suddenly drops from 60fps range to 30 in 5 minutes
- The GPU governor is a lot more tolerant than it is on the OP3/G5/Mi5 s820 devices, its noticable in GPU loving game like Skyforce where it refuses to ramp up the GPU clocks and so the games runs at 30fps when it should be 60, also Suicide squad high graphics mode is another example
- HTC also locks to 50fps when they user is not interacting, which is discussed and sorted on this page, its a unique issue visible in games like Smash hit or games with offscreen controls
solutions for performance:
- Unlock, flash TWRP, flash EX kernel, the settings in EX are already tweaked to fix the CPU and GPU problems
- Even more you can flash the PNP mod and select performance profile (also i worked with the dev on this) to further unleash your 10 and even improve things like multitasking and standby battery life
just note if you decide to flash both EX and the mod you can set EX kernel min performance level to 0 in order for the pnp mod to take over (discussed here), otherwise without the pnp mod you need to leave EX min performance at the default 60
CleanSlate kernel is said to have the same fixes as well
happy modding the difference is day versus night in performance, Dead Effect 2, Skyforce and Suicide squad will all run in sweet 60 up to 30 minutes without a blink
If you are a stock only user and don't like what you just heard, then by all means take it to HTC, because they really deserve a nuke for this ****
HERE's THE FIX!
50fps FIX HERE!
Kudos to @ivicask :good: , this issue is fixed in the latest PnP mod test build:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68138407&postcount=356
Remember to select Performance Profile in aroma installer.
And remember to give ivicask a thanks click!
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Hi all,
I've been fiddling with RipTide GP a little bit, just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dip in fps when you set the graphics up from Default to Sharper Graphics?
I mean obviously this is to be expected but I was hoping the T3 could cope okay, what settings do you run it at and are you ROM'd or Stock?
Chears M'dears!
T-L-H
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Hi all,
I've been fiddling with RipTide GP a little bit, just wondering if anyone else has noticed a dip in fps when you set the graphics up from Default to Sharper Graphics?
I mean obviously this is to be expected but I was hoping the T3 could cope okay, what settings do you run it at and are you ROM'd or Stock?
Chears M'dears!
T-L-H
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you loose 60fps with the full resolution, thats kinda acceptable given how effects heavy the game is
i also noticed with this game the interactive governor is better but not perfect, since your are using the tilt sensor and not "interacting" with the screen as muhc
and so the governor drops the clocks sometimes
best way to play it is with minimum clock set to 1.0ghz and interactive gov
wish so wish there was a game launcher app on android where we set governor, clocks and minfrees per game
hamdir said:
you loose 60fps with the full resolution, thats kinda acceptable given how effects heavy the game is
i also noticed with this game the interactive governor is better but not perfect, since your are using the tilt sensor and not "interacting" with the screen as muhc
and so the governor drops the clocks sometimes
best way to play it is with minimum clock set to 1.0ghz and interactive gov
wish so wish there was a game launcher app on android where we set governor, clocks and minfrees per game
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You lose a full 60fps when set to sharper Graphics?! Jeez that's alot, still as you said it is really effects heavy!
At first I thought I was getting tired and wasn't concentrating properly when playing lastnight! Now I know I was loosing a lotta fps!
Interactive Govenor seems best for most games then I think, RipTide GP, Nova 3 etc...
Still haven't set my Govenor yet as I need to install System Tuner.
A game launcher App that set up the Govenor, Clocks and minfrees would be great!, just click in and out of 'Gaming Mode' before and after you play would be amazing! Instead you need to change it all into 'Gaming Mode' and then back to defaults or loose loads of battery!
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You lose a full 60fps when set to sharper Graphics?! Jeez that's alot, still as you said it is really effects heavy!
At first I thought I was getting tired and wasn't concentrating properly when playing lastnight! Now I know I was loosing a lotta fps!
Interactive Govenor seems best for most games then I think, RipTide GP, Nova 3 etc...
Still haven't set my Govenor yet as I need to install System Tuner.
A game launcher App that set up the Govenor, Clocks and minfrees would be great!, just click in and out of 'Gaming Mode' before and after you play would be amazing! Instead you need to change it all into 'Gaming Mode' and then back to defaults or loose loads of battery!
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still ondemand? forget FPS on that governor bro!
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still ondemand? forget FPS on that governor bro!
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I'm completely stock
So I haven't changed any of my Govenors about yet.
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I'm completely stock
So I haven't changed any of my Govenors about yet.
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man you can change gov on the fly using system tuner and its free
go for it
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man you can change gov on the fly using system tuner and its free
go for it
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Is it best to leave it running the interactive gov? or is it best to change between Int. and OnD. govs?
Also, Task Killer... I thought I heard once that killing everything in TK is not a great idea as thememory managemnt is pretty aggressive... plus, it's got bits running in it that I'm not 100% on, should be okay to kill it all right?...
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Got System Tuner, how do I actually change the Govenors?
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Is it best to leave it running the interactive gov? or is it best to change between Int. and OnD. govs?
Also, Task Killer... I thought I heard once that killing everything in TK is not a great idea as thememory managemnt is pretty aggressive... plus, it's got bits running in it that I'm not 100% on, should be okay to kill it all right?...
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no dont use task killer
you can use supercharge which is complicated but follow my guide to save the stock minfrees and change them on the fly using script manager widgets
or simply in System Tuner auto-kill menu you can change them on the fly
rebooting will restore the stock values
as for ondemand it best to switch back for battery when ur done
all explained in my gaming guide by the wide you just have to force yourself to read it
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no dont use task killer
you can use supercharge which is complicated but follow my guide to save the stock minfrees and change them on the fly using script manager widgets
or simply in System Tuner auto-kill menu you can change them on the fly
rebooting will restore the stock values
as for ondemand it best to switch back for battery when ur done
all explained in my gaming guide by the wide you just have to force yourself to read it
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I have read through it, a few times
I'm looking at it now
You experience slowdowns on HOX with Riptide GP? What's wrong? I mean, on my device with graphics maxed out the game runs silky smooth, no lags of any kind. In my opinion it may very well be the best optimized game for our device. And my HOX is still locked, unrooted and not modified in any way, I'm haven't even done the tricks hamdir has suggested in his guide. I never needed, although he does provide some sound advice. I just played a match of 3 rounds, finishing first just to check. And it only at a 3% of my battery!
Is it possible that you have loaded your Sense launcher with widgets/pages/cities or have many running background tasks that may actually cause the slowdown?
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You experience slowdowns on HOX with Riptide GP? What's wrong? I mean, on my device with graphics maxed out the game runs silky smooth, no lags of any kind. In my opinion it may very well be the best optimized game for our device. And my HOX is still locked, unrooted and not modified in any way, I'm haven't even done the tricks hamdir has suggested in his guide. I never needed, although he does provide some sound advice. I just played a match of 3 rounds, finishing first just to check. And it only at a 3% of my battery!
Is it possible that you have loaded your Sense launcher with widgets/pages/cities or have many running background tasks that may actually cause the slowdown?
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frame drops are different from slow down
@ Feregorn: The game isn't slowing down I'm loosing frames, they're different.
Slow down is when everything slows down because the CPU/GPU can't cope with what they're processing and/or get bottlenecked.
Frame Drops are what happens when the game stops showing like 100fps and drops to like 40fps, so gameplay will look less 'smooth' and may appear to 'skip' a little bit.
Atleast that's my take on it, @ Hamdir, correct me if I'm wrong?
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@ Feregorn: The game isn't slowing down I'm loosing frames, they're different.
Slow down is when everything slows down because the CPU/GPU can't cope with what they're processing and/or get bottlenecked.
Frame Drops are what happens when the game stops showing like 100fps and drops to like 40fps, so gameplay will look less 'smooth' and may appear to 'skip' a little bit.
Atleast that's my take on it, @ Hamdir, correct me if I'm wrong?
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speed remains the same just the smoothness sensation lowers as the frame the rate is reducing from 60fps to 30fps or less
Mine don't lag at all
I stand corrected then...Oww guess I'll have to live with my mistake....But although it may seem that we are talking 2 different things the gist of the matter is that while playing with Riptide on my HOX I still don't experience any framedrops/slowdowns or whatever. Game apperas to me, to run silky smooth (and I'm an experienced gamer), just like GoW 3 did on the PS3. I'm talking about THAT kind of optimization. I can't understand what in the world has made the game to have on your defice such an inferior performance that it becomes noticeable.
which firmwares do you guys have?
1.29.401.11. for me
I only get noticeable frame dips when I am on stock on franco and eternity I don't notice any
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1.29.401.11. for me
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I have the same also. Everything stock. But on the Sense homescreen, I only have 3 pages, one with the Weather clock, google search and a birthday widget, one with the full-page music widget and one with the full page calendar widget. I've also disabled autosyncing for most of the time. Maybe these are helpful in improving overall performance???
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nope, same with latest 4.0.4
Much better now that it's rooted and setCPU profiles are enabled once again F180L owner.
I actually see a really nice improvement in battery life over 4.0.4. My wakelocks are now 1/4 of what they were. My problem is CPU related - cant get up (to 1.5 ghz... Throttled down to 1.1 almost all the time)
Emm, why do you need 1.5ghz?
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Emm, why do you need 1.5ghz?
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I am so confused by this question
Because, like many other people, I bought this phone in part for its processing power. I could have saved a lot of money by getting a slower but uncrippled phone (even stock gingerbread on my Galaxy S was 'good enough' for basic tasks). And yes, I have noticed lags since the speed has been mostly capped at 1.1ghz. I dont expect there to be full speed all the time, but I'd like it to be as snappy as possible when I am doing light activities with it, like web browsing. Why would anybody be content to have a 30% reduction in their phone's capabilities?
UPDATE: the lags I was experiencing seem to have been softare related. They appear to have disappeared after a clean install of JB and manual install of all apps from play store
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Oh yeah. What is draining your battery? Is it a specific application or just the OS? If its the OS you can install Better Battery Stats and take a look at your kernel wakelock statistics.
Something wrong with your unit, cause mine one doesnt lag at all even on 700mhz with 2 cores disabled.
Also on 1.1ghz its still most powerfull CPU on the market, but its your way.
I believe you can disable thermal protection in service menu.
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Something wrong with your unit, cause mine one doesnt lag at all even on 700mhz with 2 cores disabled.
Also on 1.1ghz its still most powerfull CPU on the market, but its your way.
I believe you can disable thermal protection in service menu.
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Thanks for your advice to check the service menu in more depth but I didnt see the option there. I wouldnt really want to disable it if I could since it does have a use (I'd rather my battery didnt overheat and explode or something ).
Unlikely that there is something wrong with my unit. The lags arent choppy, per se, but more fractional delays that werent there before the upgrade to JB. I probably would not have said anything if I hadn't seen the phone's prior behaviour. And yes, it is my way - I like things to function as they were intended regardless of whether the current performance is "good enough". Lopping off the top multiplier almost entirely seems like a crude way to regulate the operation and temperature of the phone [.. but the new information below suggests that this isnt intentional...] . If I have to compromise at some level, I will gladly take this (nearly imperceptible) loss of function for the improved battery life I am seeing in this ROM.
Update: the weird frequencies I have been seeing have been reported by others using the same rom as me. It seems to be related to the kernel.
Here we go. Just installed setcpu to show you the service settings works. Also im able to set 100% brightness whenever i want.
I used to underclock cpu on ics, but someday ive realized LTE eats battery 10x times faster, so everything ive done with setcpu is kinda useless.
So i just dont care whats going on with cpu freq since it still lighting fast.
Also JB doesnt lag even on old 1ghz devices cause of triple buffer and forced vsync. I think you still should check your phone.
p.s. Latest F180K official rom
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Here we go. Just installed setcpu to show you the service settings works. Also im able to set 100% brightness whenever i want.
I used to underclock cpu on ics, but someday ive realized LTE eats battery 10x times faster, so everything ive done with setcpu is kinda useless.
So i just dont care whats going on with cpu freq since it still lighting fast.
Also JB doesnt lag even on old 1ghz devices cause of triple buffer and forced vsync. I think you still should check your phone.
p.s. Latest F180K official rom
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Thanks again for your advice, although that screenshot has nothing to do with the service settings and JB does lag quite a bit on older 1 Ghz devices, as I can attest by having JB running on my Samsung Galaxy S. I reinstalled JB as cleanly as possible and manually reinstalled all my usual apps from the play store and the lags seem to have disappeared. Maybe there was a problem with my recovery softare ? I edited my earlier post to reflect this, but the change in CPU frequency is still there.
As I was trying to say before, you and I are using different phones and different roms. It seems to be a recognized quirk with the rom I am using that while the phone is unplugged, the cpu frequency and screen brightness are very heavily regulated (cannot run @ 1.5 or full brightness even while phone is cool; goes away when the phone is plugged in). Please do not start telling me that 100% brightness is as unnecessary as 100% cpu frequency (I dont ever use 100%). I think you and I will just disagree on acceptable limitations of capabilities, even if I agree with you that they dont affect normal phone use at all. I see it as a mystery that needs solving.
And I am glad to hear that your phone works so well with the official rom . I could wait for official JB on the e973 but I'm impatient and Houstonn did a great job with the port.
So your phone's service menu doesnt have the High Temperature Property and the Thermal Daemon disable buttons?
You still can ask someone to disassemble korean version service menu to find the flags so you can use it on E973
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So your phone's service menu doesnt have the High Temperature Property and the Thermal Daemon disable buttons?
You still can ask someone to disassemble korean version service menu to find the flags so you can use it on E973
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There's a chance I'm still just missing it or looking for the wrong thing... Could I ask you to just take a screen shot of your menu setting for me?
Sure lol
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Sure lol
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ha ha, yeah I definitely dont have that option. Thanks a lot.
UPDATE: This fixed all problems
no hidden menu for korean versions?
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Actually the screenshot is from F180K
3845#*180#
Here is updated Thermanager, which could be flashed in recovery. I have made some changes after I played Asphalt game for about one hour. With this update, on performance governor the temperature never went higher than 58. And we are talking 1 hour straight. I doubt you can have that on stock. What was interesting that performance governor produced less heat than interactive, which supports my claim that when cpu jumps frequencies, it creates additional overhead.
Now, regarding myths and fiction about stock rom not overheating. There are some dudes on this forum who complain that their Z1 overheats to 70+ on custom roms when they play their beloved games; on stock, they say, there is no overheating.
Here is a short answer. You, guys, don't know what you are talking about.
Custom roms (and custom kernels) give you tools that are not available in stock. You just have to learn how to read/use them. Here is one example: some roms allow you to have internal cpu temperature on screen. Now that you have it, you watch. When it hits 70, you panic, but if you touch the back door, it will be barely warm. So, when you are on stock and without temperature reading, you think your phone is not overheating, while it can still have 65-70.
I used a modified version of M5 kernel compiled with GCC 5.2.1 Ubertc; CPU at 2457; performance governor, inteliplug balance with touch boost disabled; GPU overclocked to 600 with msm-adreno-tz idle wait 30 and workload 3; swapiness 10; enthropy 1024 read/write. That was on DU rom, but I bet the result would be the same on Jaguar and some other custom roms.
lol, that dude is Me, and I will try this, in the stock rom I can see an process running as overheat manager or something, I think it might have to do something with it. I'm sure that my device got heated very much, I didn't meant to offense but you seems to got it wrong. btw I will try this. I use Jaguar atm.
Thanks
I don't think that my phone won't reach 60 C on stock, but I like watching YouTube, so I can see how fast it warms. (I have xposed module that shows me cpu temp even on stock). And as much as I can say my phone warms faster on custom roms than on stock. No matter what governor I use.
Also all animations (like status bar showing) are kind of laggy on custom roms. I don't know it it got better in past 2 months, but last time I used custom rom my phone reached 50C even only with chrome.
Interesting thing is that this all (including animations) is not present on 3.10 kernel, but there are no usable roms at the moment with 3.10 kernel, so I have to use stock.
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I don't think that my phone won't reach 60 C on stock, but I like watching YouTube, so I can see how fast it warms. (I have xposed module that shows me cpu temp even on stock). And as much as I can say my phone warms faster on custom roms than on stock. No matter what governor I use.
Also all animations (like status bar showing) are kind of laggy on custom roms. I don't know it it got better in past 2 months, but last time I used custom rom my phone reached 50C even only with chrome.
Interesting thing is that this all (including animations) is not present on 3.10 kernel, but there are no usable roms at the moment with 3.10 kernel, so I have to use stock.
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So, what's the temperature your xposed module shows on stock under stress?
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So, what's the temperature your xposed module shows on stock under stress?
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Usually after 20-30 minutes of YouTube it's around 53-54°C
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Usually after 20-30 minutes of YouTube it's around 53-54°C
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Which browser or is it a youtube app? I have similar temps on Firefox and about 44-48 when using Chromium (not chrome).
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lol, that dude is Me, and I will try this, in the stock rom I can see an process running as overheat manager or something, I think it might have to do something with it. I'm sure that my device got heated very much, I didn't meant to offense but you seems to got it wrong. btw I will try this. I use Jaguar atm.
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Overheat manager: whatever it is, all it does is throttling and thermanager does the same on custom roms. So, the trick is to throttle enough without you noticing any lags...
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Which browser or is it a youtube app? I have similar temps on Firefox and about 44-48 when using Chromium (not chrome).
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It's a YouTube app. Really? It's weird, maybe I'll try, but I can see the difference on battery time when I come home from school - on stock I have ~70% and on custom roms I have ~50. Anyway I'll try and report after few days.
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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OK. Nice to hear that about battery life and overheating. With regard to lagging: it is not cpu, but rather animations. Either disable them completely in developer options or in DU you can go to tweaks and pick and choose whatever animation you want. I just disable all animations and have absolutely no lag.
SuperLamic said:
Okay, I can say that custom roms are now ok for me when it come to battery life. I compared usual usage of mine on stock and custom roms and now it really gives me same battery life. The only change I made this time is that I used DU instead of Jaguar and this thermalmanager settings.
Though there are still two things that bother me on custom roms: laggy UI - I don't know what causes that, I tried changing lot of cpu/gpu thing to sort it out, but nothing helped. And the other one is headset connecting - I have to press and hold (for a little while) all the buttons on headset to get it recognized.
I'm returning back to stock, but I can say that now is overheating on custom roms gone.
Thank you, @optimumpro
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Oddly enough, I find custom ROMs hae smoother animations than stock, in my phone. But I don't have good battery life when compared to stock..
I've a OnePlus 3 Device.. When I Play Pubg in Med Settings.. it Lags like hell and i turned to Low Preset Still The same any solutions???
There was same problem with me too...
1. Make sure upgrade to v0.4.0.
2. If problem still continues use Elementalx kernel and overclock cpus and also turn on GPU boost to high.
Though regardless to say play on Europe server?
I play with framerate set to HIGH and BALANCED and it runs smooth most of the time.....
Saurabhlondhe24 said:
There was same problem with me too...
1. Make sure upgrade to v0.4.0.
2. If problem still continues use Elementalx kernel and overclock cpus and also turn on GPU boost to high.
Though regardless to say play on Europe server?
I play with framerate set to HIGH and BALANCED and it runs smooth most of the time.....
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Thank you For Your Kind Response.. Which Rom Are You On?
Msm-xtended
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Msm-xtended
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Will Try :good:
i'm on latest OOS beta with Derp kernel, no lag what so ever on PUBG , just played it for the 1st time last night, on HD and medium fps (and one mission on high), no lags what so evert, but here's heating normal and expected with this type of games, but didn't effect the game play.
it'll hit the battery though , i went from 92% to 20% in 70 mins of continues playing on high settings. also make sure if you're on OOS to add it to game do not disturb mode, it helps.
i do have same problem on open beta, ill try to flash costum kernel...hope they fix this on next update...
M.Dinesh said:
I've a OnePlus 3 Device.. When I Play Pubg in Med Settings.. it Lags like hell and i turned to Low Preset Still The same any solutions???
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Sorry to say but it will lag in anyway
Coz it is powered by Snapdragon 820 which just sucks in gaming , not becoz of GPU (Andreno 530 is good enough) but becoz of low cores count and thermel throttle ?
And PUBG mostly depends on multicore performance of the processor, in which sd820 littrely sucks (820=450 in multicore performance)
Snapdragon 660 is much better choice for gaming it's much stable than 820/821
Someone said to me to use GFX Tool on play store and enable the vulkan and see the changes. He said it was lagging but after enable the vulkan it turns out pretty smooth after but pretty much drains the battery.
MFAR198 said:
Someone said to me to use GFX Tool on play store and enable the vulkan and see the changes. He said it was lagging but after enable the vulkan it turns out pretty smooth after but pretty much drains the battery.
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I second this, used GFX Tool with the following parameters:
PUBG M Version 0.6
Resolution: 1280x720
Style: Classic
Graphics : Balanced
FPS: 60fps
Vulkan : Enabled
Anti-Aliasing: Disabled
Running On DU v12.3
Kernel DU stock
Active battery drain after 33mins of use 9% and lags at all.
ya7hu said:
I second this, used GFX Tool with the following parameters:
PUBG M Version 0.6
Resolution: 1280x720
Style: Classic
Graphics : Balanced
FPS: 60fps
Vulkan : Enabled
Anti-Aliasing: Disabled
Running On DU v12.3
Kernel DU stock
Active battery drain after 33mins of use 9% and lags at all.
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I dont know, it was smooth here currently on Nougat Zenity RR. But I do also face the lag when I'm using Unofficial RR Luis and I even overclocked the cpu, but it was smooth on OOS with stock kernel and MSM Xtended so far before. That recommendation to enable vulkan was from someone I haven't test it yet since I dont face the lag right now. Sorry can't help much, I also did not understand much why.
GuiderNeedsGuide said:
Sorry to say but it will lag in anyway
Coz it is powered by Snapdragon 820 which just sucks in gaming , not becoz of GPU (Andreno 530 is good enough) but becoz of low cores count and thermel throttle
And PUBG mostly depends on multicore performance of the processor, in which sd820 littrely sucks (820=450 in multicore performance)
Snapdragon 660 is much better choice for gaming it's much stable than 820/821
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Not true , as mentioned on another post above, I also use the latest oos beta ROM, with derp kernel 4.4 , nonlags what so ever , not even a little ...
I've been playing pubg for a month now , and with the above setup I had no lags... I even use maple I/O sched , which by nature may cause some lag and despite that it doesn't.
onePlus stock kernel specially on beta may have issues from time to time, and a lot of cutom kernels for cutom ROMs are configured more toward battery life...
For stock rom use either derp or blu_spark, they will work out of the box without issues, Blu have more heating though on my experience.
For custom ROMs you'll need to ask the kernel dev what settings anss scheds to use ...I'd imagine flash kernel will be ok right out of the box but will not be as battery friendly as the others .
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Well if you are happy with 20-35fps performance, than trust me you don't really need a flagship, you will be satisfied even with Snapdragon 450 which can give similar performance to sd820 in PUBG lol [QUOTEuke7;76899133]Not true , as mentioned on another post above, I also use the latest oos beta ROM, with derp kernel 4.4 , nonlags what so ever , not even a little ...
I've been playing pubg for a month now , and with the above setup I had no lags... I even use maple I/O sched , which by nature may cause some lag and despite that it doesn't.
onePlus stock kernel specially on beta may have issues from time to time, and a lot of cutom kernels for cutom ROMs are configured more toward battery life...
For stock rom use either derp or blu_spark, they will work out of the box without issues, Blu have more heating though on my experience.
For custom ROMs you'll need to ask the kernel dev what settings anss scheds to use ...I'd imagine flash kernel will be ok right out of the box but will not be as battery friendly as the others .[/QUOTE]
Guys if you want to game dont do it on a mobile device. Let alone a cheap China device with high failure rates on hardware.
Could anyone suggest a ROM / Kernel that is tried and tested to not lag on OnePlus 3T? I am currently using a different phone just to play the game and I really wish to move back to my phone ... Any method that is tried and tested to function properly with no lags on the current PubG update would be really appreciated
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Could anyone suggest a ROM / Kernel that is tried and tested to not lag on OnePlus 3T? I am currently using a different phone just to play the game and I really wish to move back to my phone ... Any method that is tried and tested to function properly with no lags on the current PubG update would be really appreciated
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You will be hard pressed to find a combo that works. You will most likely need to build a rom made for it as most roms are not made for gaming which to be honest is a sad state on mobile device.
zelendel said:
You will be hard pressed to find a combo that works. You will most likely need to build a rom made for it as most roms are not made for gaming which to be honest is a sad state on mobile device.
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Try msm extended pie and aosp extended pie both with stock kernel runs pubg smooth with hd - high fps
Well i'm baffled with you guys, i ran it just fine, i even downclocked it to 1 & 1,5 Ghz (lil&big). My configs: Omnirom and the included kernel (holydragon) downclocked, display driver updated to V313 (look for adreno driver in mi mix forum) use rev15 as it is less glitchy and even has tangible score boost almost 6000 gain in antutu GPU section. And that's it, HD and High setting acquired, i even get extreme setting when i first install the driver, but somehow it disappears lol. If you want to run it even better, use old gfxtool to old pubg apk, run and then update the pubg, immediately uninstall the gfxtool to avoid ban by the new pubg detection for gfxtool. Sorry too long.
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Well i'm baffled with you guys, i ran it just fine, i even downclocked it to 1 & 1,5 Ghz (lil&big). My configs: Omnirom and the included kernel (holydragon) downclocked, display driver updated to V313 (look for adreno driver in mi mix forum) use rev15 as it is less glitchy and even has tangible score boost almost 6000 gain in antutu GPU section. And that's it, HD and High setting acquired, i even get extreme setting when i first install the driver, but somehow it disappears lol. If you want to run it even better, use old gfxtool to old pubg apk, run and then update the pubg, immediately uninstall the gfxtool to avoid ban by the new pubg detection for gfxtool. Sorry too long.
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Can you share the old apks?
Rizezky said:
Well i'm baffled with you guys, i ran it just fine, i even downclocked it to 1 & 1,5 Ghz (lil&big). My configs: Omnirom and the included kernel (holydragon) downclocked, display driver updated to V313 (look for adreno driver in mi mix forum) use rev15 as it is less glitchy and even has tangible score boost almost 6000 gain in antutu GPU section. And that's it, HD and High setting acquired, i even get extreme setting when i first install the driver, but somehow it disappears lol. If you want to run it even better, use old gfxtool to old pubg apk, run and then update the pubg, immediately uninstall the gfxtool to avoid ban by the new pubg detection for gfxtool. Sorry too long.
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Can you share the rev15 zip of those drivers? I went to that thread and all the dev has right now i rev22 or rev21.
I have been using the SM-A505G for almost 2 weeks now. However, I feel that the general performance/smoothness is not good always.
I see many occasional stutters throughout the day and the phone is not as responsive as I would have liked it to be always. Slight stutter are present, and sometimes small things like keyboard would open 1 second later, or swiping from one home screen to another is not smooth many times, or some other minor delays like that. I tried the Samsung One UI launcher and also the Rootless Launcher, but had similar experience on both. I had been using a Nexus6p so far with custom roms, and while this phone is much faster than that, I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. Can anyone else share their experience?
I am not playing any games or running many apps on my device as well and am more of a casual user.
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I am not sure if these performance stutters are expected on devices in this price range. .
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Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
pabgar said:
Of course they are not expected. Those lags are from bad software optimization i.e dialer in my case
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Hoping that's something which Samsung will fix then. Not sure how their track record is on non flagship devices.
shadow_khan said:
Have you tried to use the reduce animations setting in Advanced features? It helps a bit.
Stock keyboard or 3rd party? Using swift key has been quite smooth.
The phone is sluggish especially when showing call screen etc but in general haven't noticed majority of the symptoms you posted.
I'm also coming from Nexus6 with a custom roms and I agree that this phone has been a godsend so far in terms of speed.
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Yeah I am trying with some changes to see what works. I switched to lawnchair launcher v2. Seems to be smoother than the others so far. The call screen/dialer is slow for me too.
AjBeld said:
Have you thought about rooting it and then install some sort of cpu manager? I know the cpu isn't going to perform like and SD 845 or anything but maybe if u change the governor you could see better performance in day-to-day usage?
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I can go that route later in the life cycle of the phone assuming it supports all that, but this is not something I really wanted to do in the first year itself.