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[Q] is it possible to flash Sprint custom rom on a I9305?

Hi everyone,
I have an I9305 S3 and I see that the Sprint S3 community is a lot more "alive" than the i9305's.
Will it be harmful for my I9305 to flash one of the Sprint's custom roms?
Thanks ahead.

If you want a paperweight sure.
But in all seriousness, no do not only flash roms for your phone/carrier.
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cbass15 said:
If you want a paperweight sure.
But in all seriousness, no do not only flash roms for your phone/carrier.
Sent from my HYPERDRIVE ROM!
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may i ask why?
same specs, same phone... whats so different?

Spitniv said:
may i ask why?
same specs, same phone... whats so different?
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international S3 has a Quad core processor as we have a 1.5 Dual core

SGSIIIJB said:
international S3 has a Quad core processor as we have a 1.5 Dual core
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Thanks man.

SGSIIIJB said:
international S3 has a Quad core processor as we have a 1.5 Dual core
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That really has nothing to do with it, thats only a hardware difference and wouldnt lead to a brick
Spitniv said:
may i ask why?
same specs, same phone... whats so different?
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The reason is that the misc partition of the international version is in the same location as the boot partition of the Sprint version....so when you flash an international rom on a Sprint phone then you you're deleting the bootloader and its game over
As for the other way around, theres another partition that lines up with a different one between the two (cant remember which it is right now) but most of the partitions are essential for just having your phone boot, so when you override it with info that should NOT be in that partition (because it should be in another) you get a brick

No actually he is right different things will flash in different partitions making it completely useless. The kernel in the wrong area, the bootloader in another. The device will be unable to locate the appropriate programming to do anything. Thus a paperweight.
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SGSIIIJB said:
My response was 100% DEAD ON BALLS ACCURATE different specs; check:good:; my status still in check :good: lol post count or join date does not show status/experience
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But your response was incorrect with the question. Quad core and dual core have nothing to do with the reason why you can't flash international roms and vis versa.
If the partition's were the same then it wouldn't matter.
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[Q] Downside to 4G LTE?

Noob here who has decided on Samsung note 10.1 for my first tablet ... but which one? Looking for fastest performance and longevity. Does the added mobility of 4G degrade performance during WiFi operation? ... are there disadvantages other than related costs?
tx in advance!

I will advice the 4G version because it have the Snap800 like processor and have the 4G that is better and faster like 3G.
Finally, the Snap800 will have more support from dev then the 3G with the Exynos by Sammy

The trade-off will be reduced battery life most likely if traveling in weak LTE areas.

I'm leaning towards SD800, especially after what I saw in the picture
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Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!

g8rella said:
Thank you for your replies. Looks like only the 4G version has the faster SnapDragon800. Ok that's settled.
Between32 and64, will the 64 remain faster as the memory folk
fills up or is it all the same in respect to performance?
Tx for answering my dumb questions!
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I wouldn't say that the sd is faster just yet, there are no real benchmarks out there just yet for the new octo core 5420, based on the few cryptic leaks they seem to think that the new octo might be a tiny bit faster. Im not going to jump to any conclusions just yet, I would preffer the sd800 on my device if only for the cyanogenmod support

Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?

I'm getting the one with the Snapdragon processor in it.

Sammy promised that they will include HMP (Heterogeneous Multi Processing) in their 5xxx processors . Ie; they will make s4,note3 and note 10.1 to real octa core processors through a software upgrade (say kernel upgrade)...so guess , which will have higher performance , sd or exynos? ? ? ?
And also exynos version will have wolfson audio DAC in it , so exynos defeats sd in audio performance
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I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.

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LuckyStrike88 said:
Will you be able to use this device as a phone? As in does it have a dialer that you can use with a regular SIM like the old one?
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I think I read that the phone version (which won't be sold by US cellular companies) is limited to 2G. I would love to hear differently.

RaptorMD said:
I would welcome an LTE model on Verizon except it will be limited to 16GB of storage and I just won't accept that. You need 32GB or higher internal storage for apps not medial content that is what the microsd is for.
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Whoa..that's completely unacceptable (I'm Verizon). Agree on 32 min. Where can I find spex on Verizon's version?
The spec sheet Mashari_F posted helps differentiate among variants but I'm still not clear.
I'll likely have to wait until later in Nov. for my own good ... see how users are feeling about SD VS. OCTA and see what Verizon puts out vs. Wifi.
Tx!

16GB should be fine, I have tons of apps and games installed on my 16GB old note 10
and still have 4-5GB left, if you are planning on installing huge games like nova 3 (I think it takes up 2.2GB) then you might want to consider the 32GB instead
if you root and have a nice size microsd handy, you really wont have to worry about it

So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).

NaxIonz said:
So, if you want the best CPU, you have to buy the version with a cell radio in it? That's kinda dorky, since I can just tether to my phone. But I guess if I want the best CPU I gotta buy the 4G (that I won't use).
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Yes, sure.
Because Snap800 support LTE.
And Snap800 version will be better then Exynos
See the S4, the S600 have more support that Exynos Octa...

We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see

Joey22688 said:
We dont know which is more powerful yet, this is the new octa core, not the old one
Wait for benchmarks from the new one to see
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lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos

Guich said:
lol, benchmarks...
I won't see bench, because they don't have a lot of sense.
Snap800 will be supportated because devs know the architecture and they always have the source code...
Isn't the same for the Exynos...
It's like S3 for the Cyano
So, ATM, Snap > Exynos
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Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?

Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that

The_Maverick said:
Samsung released the kernel source for the Exynos version a few days ago (sammobile.com/2013/09/20/samsung-releases-kernel-source-for-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition). I'm not very familiar with all the lingo, so please enlighten me: Is this not (all) the source code that devs need to do their thing?
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The big problem there isn't the source code, this was an older problem, but the structure of the partition and the core.
If a dev will build a kernel, the source are here.
But, trust me, snap have a source code more easy, it's quadcore, and we know all about this.
Joey22688 said:
Can someone explain why someone buys an expensive note 10.1 only to install cyanogenmod and lose all the exclusive features? (Spen, multiwindow, ir blaster, and some other things)
Just buy a nexus 10 or wait for the new one if you are going to do that
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No sense.
There isn't any sense...
In fact, i will buy it only for the feature of the tab, not for the Cyano rom
Maybe, someone, will work on a tweaked rom Touchwiz based.

Snapdragon and Exynos

guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so

Either one is okay. Depends on your carrier I would assume.

carries is kpn, but they are simlock free , kpn 4g with speed of 225Mbit for data, but that wasnt my question , i wanted to know witch is beter for feature , Snapdragon or Exynos both have cons and ups
snapdragon
more energy save
faster gpu
cons
slower load time eventhough it is 2.7ghz quad core
Exynos
faster multitask
faster loading aps
cons
faster battery drain
slower gpu
so i want ot make the right choice

Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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This is the Sprint forum. Only one choice.

i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum

Wesley_NL said:
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.

Cjam180 said:
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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i see, thx for the warning but s6 is difrent from note right ?, the s6 is problematic bcus the edge ?
from what i have readed most ppl on xda voted for exynos on the poll yet no customs , i realy liked the customs like archidroid, it was fast , smooth, easy to use and install/setup and i was hoping there is one for the note 4 to but for me its a kind of difficult choice , so snapdragon has more custom roms faster gpu but its slower in performance and not 64bit ready, and the exynos is faster , slower gpu and less custom roms
the note4 is a difficult choice for me atm it seems

DreamingWolf said:
Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box

While I am no expert on the difference between domestic and international phones for the US, from what I understand you will want to stick with exynos. The snapdragons are specific to the networks in the US. Will and do they work internationally? Yes. However, I believe you will run into issues with data with snapdragon phones internationally. I may be wrong on this so anyone can feel free to correct me but from what I understand, a note 4 with exynos will be better suited to the carriers internationally.
This is a US carrier section so many of us are not up on this info since we fairly rarely run into this. The general section for the note 4 will have more of an international following I believe.

Wesley_NL said:
it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.

DreamingWolf said:
I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it

Wesley_NL said:
are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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If they do, it isn't through Sprint.
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Wesley_NL said:
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
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i know i am partial to the snapdragon versions in all cases, the snapdragons include the available hardware for the fm radios, and even if the fm radio app is not included, u can use nextradio or even the spirit fm radio app from here at xda... and the snapdragons have always been easier to root/unlock booloader, etc., if u ask me... and the snapdragons just seem cooler to me, in a vibe sort of way...

Tab S 10.5 lte (t807r4) rom request.

Looks like there isn't a lineage os rom for this version. Any other nougat roms for it or anyone know how to build one? Thx
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I had one of these and sold it because there was nothing you could do to upgrade it. I don't think they sold enough of this model for anyone to justify the amount of time it would take to build/debug a custom ROM. It can be rooted and TWRP can be installed but that still leaves you with a MM ROM. If you want a Tab S 10.5 with a custom ROM, you might as well sell this one and get the wifi only version.

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I had one of these and sold it because there was nothing you could do to upgrade it. I don't think they sold enough of this model for anyone to justify the amount of time it would take to build/debug a custom ROM. It can be rooted and TWRP can be installed but that still leaves you with a MM ROM. If you want a Tab S 10.5 with a custom ROM, you might as well sell this one and get the wifi only version.
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I don't really see any reason why this device cannot use the other T800 or T805 ROMS. LTE may not work but everything else should.
It doesn't have a locked bootloader so should be a trivial affair to Install with TWRP.

You may be right. Mine had the touch screen freezing issue so I decided just to sell it (with full disclosure of the issue.)

When I try the t805 roms I get an error. I fugured the t800 roms wouldnt work because the t087x's have a diff cpu.
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redlikemethodz said:
When I try the t805 roms I get an error. I fugured the t800 roms wouldnt work because the t087x's have a diff cpu.
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What error? As far as I can remember the T804r is an Exynos device. It's been a while so I may be incorrect on that? :silly:

ashyx said:
What error? As far as I can remember the T804r is an Exynos device. It's been a while so I may be incorrect on that? :silly:
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No it has a snapdragon 800.
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No it has a snapdragon 800.
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I stand corrected, like I say it's been a while since I worked on the Tab S.

Rooting the Samsung Galaxy s20+

All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
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I'd say more or less that's probably the best bet but for sure is not 100% occasionally they find a way be it rare imo

I would never say never. I came from a Galaxy S7 Edge, which was eventually rooted when someone released an ENG kernel that could be flashed, allowing root. Of course it was super unstable and caused your phone to lag and overheat, but it was still a thing.
But yeah, the Exynos version is already sporting an unlocked bootloader and legitimate root. If you're really dependent on root, you want the international version. I bought my US/Verizon variant knowing I probably would never be able to root it in any kind of good way.

Why do you need root?
What do you need that doesn't have a non-root solution?
I am just curious.

sublimaze said:
Why do you need root?
What do you need that doesn't have a non-root solution?
I am just curious.
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Because I was hoping down the road the of it was possible to root the U
S. version on the s20+ that we might possible be a to run a custom rom on it from the international s20+ model.Bit I'm just a ignorant noob that do know anything.and I really like running custom roms if at all possible.I'am very sorry for boring you with my stupid question and answer.sorry...
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GDane1 said:
Because I was hoping down the road the of it was possible to root the US. version on the s20+ that we might possibly be able to run a custom rom on it from the international s20+ model. But I'm just a ignorant noob that do know anything and I really like running custom roms if at all possible. I am very sorry for boring you with my stupid question and answer.sorry...]
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No need to apologize. Some people have solid reasons for rooting. I was a crackflasher years ago, back when OEM skins were janky and lacked basic features. Custom ROMs filled a void that was desperately needed. Nowadays, OEM skins are significantly improved and offer a lot of customization and practical options.
Having said that, I wouldn't hold my breath for Snapdragon models to get a bootloader unlock. Snapdragon has become a tough nut to crack, and Exynos has traditionally been more mod-friendly. So if you want custom ROMs, get the Exynos model.
Edit: Before buying, you should know the Exynos model appears to get worse battery life than Snapdragon. So you must decide which is more important: Custom ROMs, or longer battery.
If you are in the US, you should also determine if the Exynos model supports all the bands used by your carrier.