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After Desire HD ...maybe Goophone N3?

Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.

evronetwork said:
Hi there people,
I have my DHD from Jan 2012 and back then two core phones were quite expensive, now with KitKat android it seems the phone is quite fast but still one core is one core, trying to do multiple things and the phone seems slow. Also if you are in hurry and you want to make a phonecall while having some apps open makes the process SLOWWWWWWWWWWWW
So I'm thinking of upgrading, but some phones cost quite much and I did like the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 spec-wise but I didn't like the price. The best price I could find it in my country is 560Euro + 5Euro(shipping) to my door.
So I though why not buy a clone with the new Chinese 8 core processor(which isn't overheat) and performs quite good(and WAY better than the DHD)?
Price? $259.99(without shipping) or around 190 Euro
From what I see here: http://www.gizmochina.com/2014/01/06/goophone-n3-v-s-samsung-note-3-whats-different-on-benchmark/
(Goophone N3 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 3) the difference is about 27.3% which is not much while the performance/price ratio is perfect.
What do you think?
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html

bondocel said:
I have been searching the chinese market for quite some time and i found that mediatek (MTK) processors are pretty much closed source, So don't expect to many custom roms exept for some chinese ones like miui/lewa OS. I will probably buy a chinese phone but not one that is powered by a MTK processor but i'm mostly for the oppo find 5 wich has forum here on xda it also has Snapdragon quad core 1.5 Mhz , 13 mp sony camera , nfc ,steel frame , dlna , and the is fully gpl comliant and open source. :victory: . you can take a look at it here
http://europe.oppostyle.com/find-5/9-find-5-midnight.html
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I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.

evronetwork said:
I know about oppo mate, also they will have soon the find 7. But it's not as expensive as it should. I mean you can get a Xiaomi Mi3 with snapdragon 800 at the same price with 64GB on board (300E for 16GB and 350E for 64GB) - the problem is that you can't easily find that
P.S. If cyanogenmod could support MTK processors it would be a real game-changer. Cheap 8 core phone with similar performance as some of the top-line phones.
EDIT: Alternative you can see phones like this "Faea F2 Elite" and the company is working with cyanogenmod to bring some life to the phone. Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2014/01/17/cyanogenmod-faea-f2s-getting-closer/
So if a cyanogenmod version exists(if they complete it), it would be a Chinese phone with MTK cpu and open source android . Based on that I expect CM to roll on many Chinese devices(officially or unofficially)
I've seen the "Alcatel One Touch Idol X+" also know as TLC Idol X+ S960 with a pricetag of 300E (runs at 2GHz 8 core MTK) and performs quite good also it accepts microsd cards(up to 32GB), the only thing is the 2500mAh seems a bit low for a 5" phone but it's quite enough for most of the things. I'm thing it very seriously as I can get it without much hassle.
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For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs

evronetwork said:
P.S. I'd prefer if the Goophone N3 had many custom roms available but that will come eventually if more and more users are buying this phone. This Chinese 8 core processor is quite new so it will take some time before we'll see any custom rom laying around.
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.

bondocel said:
For the past year i have been going on and off about buying one of those phones. I probably will but untill i see a fully gpl compliant mtk phone/phablem i's sticking with snapdragon . I want an oppo find 5 because i have played with one for a few days on cm rom and it is magnificent compared to my DHD. And it ships from EU warehouse so no more import taxes. I also liked zopo very much and thl and gionee and the list could go on and on and on :highfive: But frankly i thing we should switch to some of these " no name" phones so that brands like samsung ot htc or lg could lower the prices to a more resonable value . Some devices are pure rip-offs
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Oppo is a great phone but price is not better than any other brand phone. Oppo N1 has a snapdragon 600 at 1.7GHz and costs 449E from their Europe store, it's not exactly a bargain and although you can get it with either CM or colour-something(their os based on android), I hear that there are still lot of bugs
P.S. No 4.4 support ..yet
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You can instantly forget any proper support for than knock-off. I would expect some more unexpected drawbacks from it as well.
IMO better go for used proper smartphone, than brand new some hyeagizil.
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That's the only problem.. the support, the lack of CM roms and if for any reason you have a problem you can turn to no one as the people who have it probably don't don't more than you..

nice mobile

I've got a mediatek tablet and it's dual core @ 1.5ghz with 1gb ram and it lags worse than any device I've had... At the beginning there was no lag, over time (3 months) it started to happen. The build.prop was modified for any graphical usage to be low density which is how it had no lag...
Before buying anything Chinese make sure the specs are correct (as in do a test) many cheapos are clones of the Chinese device :0
Also before you buy ask the seller for firmware as they are well hidden...
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Info before buying note 10.1 2014

Hi everybody!
For many years I've been looking for a decent tablet with advanced stylus features to use at work. I am a researcher so I need something to take notes while I'm working and a way to read and take notes on scientific books and papers.
It seems the Gnote 10.1 2014 could fit my needs, but I'd like to ask a couple of questions before buying it.
1) Are there any actual difference between the exynos and the snapdragon versions, apart from the problems regarding Samsung not releasing exynos sources in future?
2) Is there any reason why the development of custom roms is still practically absent?
3) Is the international version regionally locked?
4) How can be compared the experience with the S-pen when using custom roms? I'm planning to use mainly of apps which are not directly related to samsung (papyrus, lecturenotes, repligo reader) so in future it could be interesting to flash a custom rom on the tablet. Will the S-Pen keep working properly?
5) Is there any reason why you would discourage me from buying it?
Thank you all guys!

jst_tsj said:
Hi everybody!
For many years I've been looking for a decent tablet with advanced stylus features to use at work. I am a researcher so I need something to take notes while I'm working and a way to read and take notes on scientific books and papers.
It seems the Gnote 10.1 2014 could fit my needs, but I'd like to ask a couple of questions before buying it.
1) Are there any actual difference between the exynos and the snapdragon versions, apart from the problems regarding Samsung not releasing exynos sources in future?
2) Is there any reason why the development of custom roms is still practically absent?
3) Is the international version regionally locked?
4) How can be compared the experience with the S-pen when using custom roms? I'm planning to use mainly of apps which are not directly related to samsung (papyrus, lecturenotes, repligo reader) so in future it could be interesting to flash a custom rom on the tablet. Will the S-Pen keep working properly?
5) Is there any reason why you would discourage me from buying it?
Thank you all guys!
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I will try to answer many questions.
1) Sure there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon. The snapdragon (2.3) is faster than the exynos version which is 1.9. Also the snapdragon supports 4G while the exynos supports 3G. There is sometimes lag when using the tab (exynos) while there is no reported lag with the snapdragon version.
2) The development of custom roms is poor for this device, but there are some custom roms for the p-605 (4G-Snapdragon version), while there is few for the exynos version. I don`t know why!!!
3) I don`t know.
4) S-Pen is working perfectly with custom rom and/or root. I`m using many applications dedicated for the S-Pen after rooting my device (p-601/3G/exynos) like S-pen Gesture, GMD Gesture, Stylus Pen Beta,....etc.
5) You can take a look at the new devices Note 12.2 Pro, it comes with Kitkat 4.4, Magazine UX, and improved performance than the Note 2014 edition.

skyhigh73 said:
I will try to answer many questions.
1) Sure there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon. The snapdragon (2.3) is faster than the exynos version which is 1.9. Also the snapdragon supports 4G while the exynos supports 3G. There is sometimes lag when using the tab (exynos) while there is no reported lag with the snapdragon version.
2) The development of custom roms is poor for this device, but there are some custom roms for the p-605 (4G-Snapdragon version), while there is few for the exynos version. I don`t know why!!!
3) I don`t know.
4) S-Pen is working perfectly with custom rom and/or root. I`m using many applications dedicated for the S-Pen after rooting my device (p-601/3G/exynos) like S-pen Gesture, GMD Gesture, Stylus Pen Beta,....etc.
5) You can take a look at the new devices Note 12.2 Pro, it comes with Kitkat 4.4, Magazine UX, and improved performance than the Note 2014 edition.
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Thank you very much for your answers! The note 12 would be perfect for the use I'm planning to do, but it's too expensive for me so I think I'll take this instead
What about the Knox fuse? Is there any way to avoid its damage?
Thx again!
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jst_tsj said:
Thank you very much for your answers! The note 12 would be perfect for the use I'm planning to do, but it's too expensive for me so I think I'll take this instead
What about the Knox fuse? Is there any way to avoid its damage?
Thx again!
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U r welcomed.
Regarding knox and warranty void. It is still noway to avoid this. However I re-flashed my device 3 times and rooted it 3 times but finally I got only 1 bin counter, instead of 3 I don`t know why!!

skyhigh73 said:
I will try to answer many questions.
1) Sure there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon. The snapdragon (2.3) is faster than the exynos version which is 1.9. Also the snapdragon supports 4G while the exynos supports 3G. There is sometimes lag when using the tab (exynos) while there is no reported lag with the snapdragon version.
2) The development of custom roms is poor for this device, but there are some custom roms for the p-605 (4G-Snapdragon version), while there is few for the exynos version. I don`t know why!!!
3) I don`t know.
4) S-Pen is working perfectly with custom rom and/or root. I`m using many applications dedicated for the S-Pen after rooting my device (p-601/3G/exynos) like S-pen Gesture, GMD Gesture, Stylus Pen Beta,....etc.
5) You can take a look at the new devices Note 12.2 Pro, it comes with Kitkat 4.4, Magazine UX, and improved performance than the Note 2014 edition.
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There is no difference between the exynos and snapdragon.....I used both of them and the exynos has better graphics but the snapdragon has better frame rate. .......also the exynos better in using battery while the snapdragon charges faster....
By the way.......the lag is software problem so it is on both of them

Ahmedmoataz said:
There is no difference between the exynos and snapdragon.....I used both of them and the exynos has better graphics but the snapdragon has better frame rate. .......also the exynos better in using battery while the snapdragon charges faster....
By the way.......the lag is software problem so it is on both of them
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So you can confirm me that the tablet suffers of performance lags?
I was asking regarding the exynos vs snap because, as an earlier SGSIII user, I'm pretty aware of the development difficulties arising from the decision of Samsung to not release sources for the exynos platform. Hence, I wouldn't like to buy a tablet which won't be supported properly by the community due to commercial strategies.

jst_tsj said:
So you can confirm me that the tablet suffers of performance lags?
I was asking regarding the exynos vs snap because, as an earlier SGSIII user, I'm pretty aware of the development difficulties arising from the decision of Samsung to not release sources for the exynos platform. Hence, I wouldn't like to buy a tablet which won't be supported properly by the community due to commercial strategies.
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Yea both of them have the lag problems but with the right sittings it can run very smoothly
......about the support issues I dont know which is better but overall samsung sucks at support

jst_tsj said:
So you can confirm me that the tablet suffers of performance lags?
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That's a bit strong. You'll see random millisecond stutters in transitions and in opening and closing apps. There's an indexing service that supports S Finder that periodically refreshes itself and can take a while on devices that have a lot of PDFs and/or handwritten notes. When there's not a lot going on in the background there's little or no lag. At least on my device.

Snapdragon and Exynos

guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so

Either one is okay. Depends on your carrier I would assume.

carries is kpn, but they are simlock free , kpn 4g with speed of 225Mbit for data, but that wasnt my question , i wanted to know witch is beter for feature , Snapdragon or Exynos both have cons and ups
snapdragon
more energy save
faster gpu
cons
slower load time eventhough it is 2.7ghz quad core
Exynos
faster multitask
faster loading aps
cons
faster battery drain
slower gpu
so i want ot make the right choice

Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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This is the Sprint forum. Only one choice.

i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum

Wesley_NL said:
i have no clue i see 3 versions and i just picked a forum
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Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.

Cjam180 said:
Be careful my bro got the s6 with exynos, we rooted it and went looking for new roms but only found 2 and there isn't likely to be more because of the exynos
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i see, thx for the warning but s6 is difrent from note right ?, the s6 is problematic bcus the edge ?
from what i have readed most ppl on xda voted for exynos on the poll yet no customs , i realy liked the customs like archidroid, it was fast , smooth, easy to use and install/setup and i was hoping there is one for the note 4 to but for me its a kind of difficult choice , so snapdragon has more custom roms faster gpu but its slower in performance and not 64bit ready, and the exynos is faster , slower gpu and less custom roms
the note4 is a difficult choice for me atm it seems

DreamingWolf said:
Sprint only offers the snapdragon version.
I would try the main Note 4 forum.
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it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box

While I am no expert on the difference between domestic and international phones for the US, from what I understand you will want to stick with exynos. The snapdragons are specific to the networks in the US. Will and do they work internationally? Yes. However, I believe you will run into issues with data with snapdragon phones internationally. I may be wrong on this so anyone can feel free to correct me but from what I understand, a note 4 with exynos will be better suited to the carriers internationally.
This is a US carrier section so many of us are not up on this info since we fairly rarely run into this. The general section for the note 4 will have more of an international following I believe.

Wesley_NL said:
it was not directed at this version only, im from eu and i dont know what version i will get so im asking users how and what so i dont take the wrong turn, the version here probaly would be an internantional version like the s3 i had and i dont know what version the note 4 will be that i get, also have no clue how to spot what version is in box
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I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.

DreamingWolf said:
I understand it wasn't directed at this varient alone. But you won't get many responses to a request for comparisons when almost no one has an exynos here. That's why I provided a link to the forums where there are many people from both sides available to ask.
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are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it

Wesley_NL said:
are you sure? cuz the poll says otherwise, more ppl voted for exynos so i thought alot used it
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If they do, it isn't through Sprint.
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Wesley_NL said:
guys, i was looking for a new device and came to note 4, but isee there 2 versions Snapdragon and Exynos
these benchmarks are old and since we are like nearly a year further since release in my country witch should i get of the 2
most ppl voted for the Exynos ver on this forum but i dont go read like 200+ posts,
what i want to do wit hthe device
gaming,
watching anime 10bit h264 / h265 mkv/flac
custom firmware something like archidroid witch i used on s3
help me out abit , the on paper reviews dont say everything its more about true phone power, stability, laggless, ofc speed to
as far as ive seen reviews , snapdragon is best in gpu depending stuff while Exynos does the multi process/task stuff but those revies are from 2014 dunno if anything has changed with the firmwares and so
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i know i am partial to the snapdragon versions in all cases, the snapdragons include the available hardware for the fm radios, and even if the fm radio app is not included, u can use nextradio or even the spirit fm radio app from here at xda... and the snapdragons have always been easier to root/unlock booloader, etc., if u ask me... and the snapdragons just seem cooler to me, in a vibe sort of way...

Differences between Snapdragon and Exynos Radios for USA - AT&T?

Hey all,
I have the option of buying the phone straight from AT&T or getting an international unlocked version. I know that the Exynos processor is better for performance for the most part, but how are the radio's/performance/battery life in comparison to the SD820? I live right by NYC so I have full LTE everywhere I go right now. I'm not worried about VoLTE if that's an issue, I very rarely use the phone to call.
Thanks guys!

Blaze9 said:
Hey all,
I have the option of buying the phone straight from AT&T or getting an international unlocked version. I know that the Exynos processor is better for performance for the most part, but how are the radio's/performance/battery life in comparison to the SD820? I live right by NYC so I have full LTE everywhere I go right now. I'm not worried about VoLTE if that's an issue, I very rarely use the phone to call.
Thanks guys!
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If the Note 7 is like the GS7 Edge, then the Exynos version will have better battery life. Right now, no one really knows.
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One of the few reasons to go with a carrier phone is because they optimize the radios for their networks. S-820 devices use Qualcomm's X12 LTE modem which supports LTE-U. Exynos devices use Samsung Shannon 935 modem. Both support LTE category 11/12. They're the same modems used in the S7-series so look at their forums. Any happiness or unhappiness using either on AT&T would be the same for the Note7.

Im curious as well either getting the international version or Tmobiles version. I see the Note 5 international roms have alot more options and the processor is going to be better on the international variant.

recepo1 said:
Im curious as well either getting the international version or Tmobiles version. I see the Note 5 international roms have alot more options and the processor is going to be better on the international variant.
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The radios on both should give you 100% coverage on t-mobile.

erootaku123 said:
The radios on both should give you 100% coverage on t-mobile.
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Thank you ...am i correct in stating the processor is better on the international variant?

recepo1 said:
Thank you ...am i correct in stating the processor is better on the international variant?
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Better battery life and memory management. Worse GPU is the general consensus.

erootaku123 said:
Better battery life and memory management. Worse GPU is the general consensus.
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Hmmm interesting thank you for the insight much appreciated considering all those factors personally what would you think is the overall best choice?

erootaku123 said:
Better battery life and memory management. Worse GPU is the general consensus.
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But, that's stock kernel. All of that can be fixed via custom

The Sickness said:
But, that's stock kernel. All of that can be fixed via custom
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If you can unlock the bootloader on the locked US versions that is. Even then I think exynos is better if you dont play alot of games.

erootaku123 said:
If you can unlock the bootloader on the locked US versions that is.
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That is true....that's what is keeping me away

erootaku123 said:
If you can unlock the bootloader on the locked US versions that is. Even then I think exynos is better if you dont play alot of games.
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I build exynos for the S6....games are not a issue on my kernels.
I just wish Sammy would of left the bootloader alone.

Hi Guys,
I'm tired of asking for more and more details and not enough answers. Can you guys help me come up with a bottom line?
If I need an unlocked Bootloader and custom development support and using the phone in the US on AT&T or T-Mobile, which variant should I get? The regular N930F or the Dual SIM version the N930FD?
Thanks for your help!

The Sickness said:
But, that's stock kernel. All of that can be fixed via custom
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So as a developer which one do you think will be a better choice?

recepo1 said:
So as a developer which one do you think will be a better choice?
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Snapdragon gets more development. But, Exynos is good. I guess it really depends on who builds it to be honest.

The Sickness said:
Snapdragon gets more development. But, Exynos is good. I guess it really depends on who builds it to be honest.
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Thanks sure either would be a good decision in the long run.

The Sickness said:
Snapdragon gets more development. But, Exynos is good. I guess it really depends on who builds it to be honest.
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How do you figure that, my friend? Especially with a locked Bootloader on the SD?

With the international variant, you won't get Samsung pay if that is a big deal to you.

Acapella75 said:
With the international variant, you won't get Samsung pay if that is a big deal to you.
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I think there is a way to get it if you're not Rooted, no? You just need to have the right CSC or something?

The Sickness said:
I build exynos for the S6....games are not a issue on my kernels.
I just wish Sammy would of left the bootloader alone.
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I'm basing this purely on the stock numbers testing. The SD has a better GPU technically.

Noob question: How long a device is supported by lineage?

Hello,
I'm new to cyanogen/lineage, and I become interested because so far the only experience I got with android is a phone that wasn't updated even once by the company (bq) and a tablet that will get stuck on 6.0 (motorola).
Therefore my main concern is to have updates for as long as possible.
I can see that many devices I'm interested in don't list any maintainer:
wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ (can't post links)
Does this mean that those phones won't get any new lineage version?
Is there a way to know if a phone will be abandoned sooner than others?
Is it better to buy well known device than a more rare brand?
Is it better to buy a high end phone used than a basic model new?
Any recommendations? I need a pretty simple thing, 4G is a must and dual SIM would be a nice feature. I'm not that interested in power screen resolution or camera.
Thanks a lot for your answers.

I have seen devices getting removed due to inactive maintainers. So hard to say any time.
I use a Moto Z. It's getting it's first build soon [emoji2]
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I want add another question to the thread. What will happen with 32 bit processors.
As far as I know, android 7 cannot be installed in any 32 bit processor. Will be the same with lineage? The equivalent version only will be compatible with 64 bit processors?

asimov-solensan said:
As far as I know, android 7 cannot be installed in any 32 bit processor. Will be the same with lineage? The equivalent version only will be compatible with 64 bit processors?
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What? Nougat works fine on 32 bit.

axxx007xxxz said:
What? Nougat works fine on 32 bit.
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I was sure that I read it somewhere, but it may be that this was comment from a particular brand.
If there is no limitation in this regard I feel more comfortable buying a used device with an older processor.