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few qustians before buying HTC DESIRE... please help

when you take pictuers on the HTC DESIRE
lets say when you take a picture holding the device on landscap - does it save the picture as landscap? i mean that does you have to do ROTATE to photos to save them on the computer?
is there any site i can see all the androind app now? so i can know what ill have and what i can't have..
or i have to check the market app only from a androind device?
thats it for now. still having problems deciding what phone to take - Desire or iPhone 4...
the bad thing that the desire have no front camera for future things like making video calls on fring or mesnnger...
p.s. sorry for my bad English.. hop you can help me! thanks!

Yes, if you take the picture in landscape, the picture will be saved in landscape. Same for portrait. In addition, you can edit the orientation of the photo in the photo viewer.
There is an official Android Market site. But it's not very helpful. You can't push applications to your device and the selections are not complete. Appbrain is a better alternative.
Btw, you should know that video calling is not a "future thing". That's what Apple wants you to believe. The front facing camera was so underutilized that manufacturers have since decided to abandon it. Once Apple adopted it, it's suppose to be the next big thing....sigh...

For finding all the available apps you can try http://www.androlib.com , but it might be a bit hard to find the things you want.
And regarding the videocalling, you can actually videocall with fring on your desire, but it obviously will use the rear facing camera. So it kind of depends on what you want to do, is it really i want to see someone when i call them or i want to show them what i am seeing at this moment.

well is there any HTC phone that is android with fron cam also? somthing like the desire.... ??
i think ill be using the fron camera a lot when i be abrod and want to make calls over fring with WIFI connection...

Quick question for you Amir...do you video call now? You say future things like you're expecting it to be the next big thing. It's been available for years. Why have you never thought to do it before but now seemingly would let it colour your purchasing decisions?

i had N95 for lots of time.. and i did use video call but by then it wans't possiple to use it over WIFI and with fring..
so i allways want that like this.

I had an N95 also and was able to use Fring to make Skype video calls a long time ago.
My question was basically , knowing that video calling is a requirement, why don't you stick with Nokia, who rarely leave out the front cam? Symbian is improving at a rapid pace to try and keep up.

amir84 said:
well is there any HTC phone that is android with fron cam also? somthing like the desire.... ??
i think ill be using the fron camera a lot when i be abrod and want to make calls over fring with WIFI connection...
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There isnt no, the reason htc have left out the front camera is that its not supported by the os
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

so how is the galaxy S have a front cam and runing the same OS ?

AndroHero said:
There isnt no, the reason htc have left out the front camera is that its not supported by the os
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That's not 100% correct. The camera hardware is supported just fine...the protocol that is used to make 3G video calls is what I think is missing (someone correct me if I'm wrong) and so negated the inclusion of a front cam.

I had a E71 but never used video calling once. I had it for 3 years also.
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atomfix said:
I had a E71 but never used video calling once. I had it for 3 years also
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http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/December2004/8825.htm
It's old tech but the carriers here in Europe REALLY thought it would take off. Obviously, Apple being Apple, people will start video calling like they've never done before.
Mp3 players were available before the iPod, but no one wanted them...until Apple did it. Mobile phones could install apps and surf the web before the iPhone...no one wanted to, until Apple did it. People have had cameras on their phones for years...but the dawn of the iPhone has seen it remain the most used camera of ANY kind in the world on Flickr since it was released. Tablet PC's wallowed in the wilderness of computing for 10 years before the iPad...now it's the hottest selling device this year.
Apple people tend to start doing things they had no inclination to do before Apple told them it was awesome to do said activity. Expect the same to happen to video calling.

To be honest right..... video calling is the thing of the ancient past. I'm sure the Pharaoh's used video calling in there time. But HD voice calling should be the future
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i love the htc desire but i am not going to buy it

strange ha? , but i just hate htc for making such a great phone with a bad speaker,
everywhere i read i see that everyone is saying that the speaker is bad, and the earpiece volume is still something that i didn't get any confermation about its sound quality.
and the thing is i love android and i love the Sense interface, but i work in the most noisy place you can imagine and my current pro2 is really helping me a lot when it comes to sound quality esp from the earpiece.
i don't konw if i made the right decision i really love that phone, but i can't risk of having a bad earpiece.
what do you think? , should i wait and see the desire hd , or whatever will come by the end of the year with that 3.0 version of android , or just get myself the phone that i love?

I have the strangest suggestion for you: Try it out yourself!
So.. either give the sound quality a check with some demo unit in a store or something. If they don't have one, perhaps even ask if they can turn a Desire on for you so you can check the sound yourself.
Even better! Find someone (a friend, coworker etc) who owns a Desire. Then give the sound a try -right- at the place where you think it's important (e.g. noisy workplace).
Waiting for another phone or Android 3.0 could always be worth the wait. Who knows.. But there is absolutely no guarantee that the speaker/headphones will be better on that phone/those phones.
And since you don't really have any conformation about the earpiece quality yourself (and I guess you think it's really important), I think you should really give this a good test yourself.
Read: no matter what phone you buy, always check the quality yourself. Don't believe what others say. Perhaps someone else their quality standards is higher than yours, or they think other stuff is more important than you think.

well , you're very right, but the problem is that htc agent in Egypt is treating us like they are selling diamond , you can't try a device, if it's opened it's yours, and if you're lucky enough to find a demo device it's not for use with a sim card, you can try the software and everything except not making a phone call
even contacting the support is a night mare, as they are not authorized to speak their only job is to accept phones and send it to repair shops that belong to the agent , but they can't comment on anything.
even e-mail and phone support on the website , they don't provide any help at all
i don't have any freind who has the htc desire, and that's why i didn't try it
but don't you think that htc is really making no effort in providing us with better hardware.
i mean , why didn't they just make this phone with stereo speakers and aluminum body? and a 4inch display , simply cuz it's for the desire hd that's everyone is talking about
my point is i am begining to feel that these companies are really leaving problems in their devices , so we can think of upgrading our phones more often than we do

The speaker is indeed aweful, but I bought an x-mini capsule speaker and its better then any phone speaker I've ever used! Hope I helped.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

thanks , that was a lot of help

Not to mention the terrible touch screen and the ****ty AMO led. I'd say wait

Terrible touch screen and ****ty amoled? R u mad?
Headphone sound quality is fine for me too.

now that's news to me , i didn't hear anyone complaning from the screen , what's wrong with it?

sabbourh said:
now that's news to me , i didn't hear anyone complaning from the screen , what's wrong with it?
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Nothing.

sabbourh said:
strange ha? , but i just hate htc for making such a great phone with a bad speaker,
everywhere i read i see that everyone is saying that the speaker is bad, and the earpiece volume is still something that i didn't get any confermation about its sound quality.
and the thing is i love android and i love the Sense interface, but i work in the most noisy place you can imagine and my current pro2 is really helping me a lot when it comes to sound quality esp from the earpiece.
i don't konw if i made the right decision i really love that phone, but i can't risk of having a bad earpiece.
what do you think? , should i wait and see the desire hd , or whatever will come by the end of the year with that 3.0 version of android , or just get myself the phone that i love?
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if ur from the UK then order one via phone from tmobile and you get about 8 days to return it so you got 8 days to test it

The speaker is ok the problem is the placement of the thing... it's in the back of the phone making it less audible.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

The screen might be a personal thing. Personally I love the amoled screen, very nice to watch movies etc And the touchscreen is also very nice, very sensitive.
Guess supasye means the somewhat (possible) purple hue and the multitouch bug (which you probably never going to notice with normal usage).
My screen was very purple, so I've send it back for repair. Unfortunately the replaced device has some weird problem with the touchscreen (gets less responsive after some time, will be replaced now as well).
But as far as I can gather that's all an exception. I have multiple friends with a Desire and those all work perfectly. I can't wait until I get a new Desire back, and can start enjoying the device again!
As for output quality, I think it's perfect for normal usage. You can always buy some better quality headphones or something.
But then again, my standards are not that high for this. I don't use headphones that much and when I play music it's usually over bluetooth (in the car).

thank you all for sharing your opinions
like i was saying , my point is that i feel that htc is becoming more and more a monopoly player with no competition to face it.
it's like the story of lamborghini and ferrari , i see htc as the ferrari but i want a lamborghini
i see lots of people saying that the speaker does not work well , yet i don't see any actions from htc worldwide to improve it , much like apple with its phone antenna problem.
it's like those big companies refuse to say that they did something wrong , or even try to fix its problems.
htc in egypt is very bad in customer service , that's why i read a lot of reviews so i can make sure that i am buying the right headset.
sadly i can't buy the desire from outside Egypt for two main reasons, one it will not have arabic , my language, and two i will pay about 30% as taxes and customs.
moreover i get the feeling that once i buy the desire , a new model will be released with everything corrected, which makes you think , did they make such mistakes on purpose?
i don't like paying lots of money for my phone , and i don't like upgrading unless i am convinced that there's a real value being added.
but with all the great things that i see in the desire, i feel that waiting will be better due to that fact that i feel that htc did on purpose make the desire with speaker problems and 3.7 screen , so they can sell the next desire with a 4 or 4.3 screen and a stereo speaker.

I don't believe they create 'bad devices' on purpose, just to sell more of the next generation. E.g., put a crappy speaker in product X and then improve a bit for product Y. As a setup plan to sell more product Y devices. Although.... with some of the HTC products in past I'm not so sure lol
What HTC does, and has been doing for all along really, is create a nice device. And with almost the same internals and technology, bring a slightly improved version of that device on the market later (a bit like your example with a Desire, and then later a Desire HD).
HTC pushes out lots of models. When you buy one, a somewhat more improved version of that model will be out in a few months. And perhaps another one after that.
Then a new 'generation' devices will be release, and the same thing happens.
It's a proven and working strategy which seems to work very nicely for HTC. If you wait for the 'Desire HD' with bigger screen and stereo speakers, by that time something else is already around the corner.
However! Since those things cost quite some money, you have to be really sure it's what you want. So if you are not too sure about the Desire and actually rather wait for the 'next Desire', it's a good thing you can wait.
Not too many people (including me lol ) have the ability to remain calm and wait. Although I'm glad I bought the Desire when it came out. I just have to restrain myself to wait until the 'next generation' of HTC models

Do you specifically mean the loudspeaker sound quality and/or sound volume loudness?
As to the latter, maybe the end of this page will help somewhat: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3826/motorola-droid-x-thoroughly-reviewed/19
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I really love my Desire and I have had no problems with it but I guess there are some faulty models out there too.
If the loudspeaker is important to you, I'd wait for a new model. Desire's loudspeaker is the worst one I've ever seen. If you have no way of testing the device yourself there's an easy way to try it home: just buy the cheapest earplugs you can find, cut off the other earpiece, plug them to any source of audio and maximize the volume. That's what the loudspeaker sounds like, or maybe even worse.
The earpiece is not good either but it does it's job. I often have to ask people to talk more clearly because I can't hear what they are saying due to the poor sound quality.
But for HTC's defense I have to say that the bundled handsfree earplugs are very good and the sound quality of them is impressive. So if you're going to go with Desire, I'd advice you to either use the bundled handsfree or buy a better one yourself.

i disagree that htc does not use the idea of making bad devices so it can sell better ones later
look at the tytn 2 then pro one then pro2.
they make a great phone then instead of improving it they make a bad one , then they improve it again in the exact way it was supposed to naturally evolve.
( and by the way i used all of the three mentioned phones)
but look at the tytn one then the 2 , now that was a better upgrade , and worth the money too.
now as i was saying i am not going to buy the desire, although i love the os and the sence interface, but the speaker quality and the idea that i can't try the phone till i buy it makes it just a risk that i don't want to take , so i will wait and see what the coming days will bring us with new models.
i thank you all for sharing thoughts , opinions and ideas, they were really a lot of help

It's not that the loudspeaker is bad (it isn't), it isn't _very_ loud. It is certainly loud enough to hear the ringtone though.
As for the earpiece quality, I think it is quite good (better than iphone 3G/3GS, a bit worse than Nokia N81). I've heard from people some background hiss/buzzing may occur on 3G when the signal quality is very low. on Edge it works perfectly and quite clearly.
The included earbuds are not the worst I've seen either. They sound fine, look good.
But since I like the earcanal type, I went ahead and got me a pair of Creative EP-630i's, much better noise isolation and bass obviously. I should note that Desire is compatible with earbuds made for iphone just fine (mic and button works as it should).

I'd get a Droid X, if you can get your hands on it. If only for resizable widgets. But extra screen space, noise cancellation², HD recording and a gorgeous 8M camera with panoramic mode make me gush too.

i think that it won't have the great sence interface which is one of the main features that makes me love the htc desire,
but you know , waiting for that rumered desire hd seams to be a good idea after reading all of your opinions

Video ringtones?

Hi has anybody thought about creating a program to allow video ringtones?

Not going to leave you hanging alone
I always wondered that I remember when camera phones were being blasted out a friend of mine had a Sprint Sanyo that had video ringtone that was the only phone I have seen do that. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. Would be cool though to see a friend or someone on a video ringer moving and shaking.

yeah, it looks like the iPhone can do it. Hopefully WP7 will make it happen too..
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...37F167FD1A36A7AE1E6537&view=detail&FORM=VIRE5

AFAIK, MS don't provide (and I'm afraid will never provide) any low level phone API. So, the only hope is "freedom ROMs" from DFT...

why do you need video ringtones?
its absolutly nonsense. If someone calls me, my smartphone is in my pocket or lies somewhere on a table. The sound notification is enough, to know that somebody calls me. And it takes maybe 2 seconds to answer a call, so why watch 2 secs of a video

cndymn_ said:
why do you need video ringtones?
its absolutly nonsense. If someone calls me, my smartphone is in my pocket or lies somewhere on a table. The sound notification is enough, to know that somebody calls me. And it takes maybe 2 seconds to answer a call, so why watch 2 secs of a video
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First off, I'm not sure what's up your ass, but the word "need" was never used.
I thought it would he cool to have...no more to it!!!
2nd - Just because you don't want something doesn't make it nonsense. I'm quite sure there's some programs you would like to have that someone else has no desire for.
If you don't want something or agree w/ it, don't read the post, but please.....realize the world doesn't revolve around your opinion and just keep the uneeded ones to yourself..
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First off, I'm not sure what's up your ass, but the word "need" was never used.
I thought it would he cool to have...no more to it!!!
2nd - Just because you don't want something doesn't make it nonsense. I'm quite sure there's some programs you would like to have that someone else has no desire for.
If you don't want something or agree w/ it, don't read the post, but please.....realize the world doesn't revolve around your opinion and just keep the uneeded ones to yourself..
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aha, but why should anybody work on it, when it's like a said, totally nonsense.
barrychon said:
yeah, it looks like the iPhone can do it. Hopefully WP7 will make it happen too..
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...37F167FD1A36A7AE1E6537&view=detail&FORM=VIRE5
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video ringtones work on iPhone because "MobileSubstrate" is working as a plugin to the springboard. It will not be possible to do anything like this on windows phone in the near future. hopes this answers your idea...

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aha, but why should anybody work on it, when it's like a said, totally nonsense.
Well again...just because you don't want it doesn't make it nonsense...you need to get out of that bubble you live in and realize there's so much more than YOU on this planet...
video ringtones work on iPhone because "MobileSubstrate" is working as a plugin to the springboard. It will not be possible to do anything like this on windows phone in the near future. hopes this answers your idea...
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Thank you, this does help me understand my idea and makes a lot more sense than your previous answer.
Maybe sometime down the road it will be possible..

It is very possible and I'll love to have it, seem like it would be a major battery leach though

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It is very possible and I'll love to have it, seem like it would be a major battery leach though
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Same here. Yeah, it prob. would drain the hell out of the battery.

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why do you need video ringtones?
its absolutly nonsense. If someone calls me, my smartphone is in my pocket or lies somewhere on a table. The sound notification is enough, to know that somebody calls me. And it takes maybe 2 seconds to answer a call, so why watch 2 secs of a video
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yea.. sounds to me like just a waste of space too...

Speaker on phone, really that bad?

I know the Nexus was released today,and instead of asking questions, I should be out getting it, but I feel that I need to ask this question before I go ahead and get it.
The speaker for the speaker phone and audio playback.....is it really as bad as reviewers say? I only ask because I use the speaker on my phone about 2-3 hours per day listening to podcasts, music and such. As silly as it sounds, it is really high on the make or brake list of the phone.
Also, in this same realm, did the update that is being pushed out doing anything for it? I am just curious if it is actual hardware or just software. I know, with my Touchpad, when running WebOS, sound comes out of the speakers perfectly, but when I boot up the CyanogenMod based XRON ROM on it, it is rather awful and pretty much unusable. So, its obviously a software thing, not a hardware thing.
I don't mind waiting a bit to see if more users have more opinions on it, and worst case scenario, if need be, I wouldn't mind waiting until the Razr gets ICS, or at least the CyanogenMod version of it..
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I haven't had any issues with audio playback. I'm not entirely sure what issues your referring to either so perhaps you could clarify.
Overall I'm very happy with my purchase and would highly recommend it. (coming from a HTC Desire)

There were several places I read it.
This was from this morning (http://tinyurl.com/cv932ov):
Galaxy Nexus speaker blows: The speaker on the Galaxy Nexus is basically useless and one of the worst speakers I have ever used on a phone. It is nearly impossible to use it as a speakerphone and forget about listening to music and podcasts without a headset or external speaker. Some have suggested it might be a software issue and I can only hope so since I can’t even use it with such low volume. The speakers on the iPhone 4S are much better and I have no complaints at all.
I remember both The Cell Phone Junkie and also someone on Android Central mentioning it as well, but with the 2 minutes of searching, I couldn't find it easily on their sites. Its seems people have complained about them being "tinny" and not great at high volumes..
From what it sounds, you have no problems with it at all?

its really not that bad but it improves drastically with the free volume + app
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion

I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
Or, with a bad speaker, I guess that is a way to convince the wife to let me put wifi/bluetooth speakers throughout my house.

MikeDaub said:
I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
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Great idea! Best way to make a decision.

RTContent said:
After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion
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Ohh, I agree 100% that the article was written by an Iphone user, designed to draw people from Android to IOS. But, like I mentioned, I have heard it before and figured it was easy enough to ask in the forums about it.
I think most of the reviews have come from the GSM version, to there might be a software upgrade that might have helped it..

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Yea but..... That's another 6 envious hours of sitting at my desk reading about people getting it.. I want it now..

Another Vote for Volume+

Its not bad. Its just not very loud. Shoulda called it quiet speaker.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

I never thought my Incredible's speaker was really loud, but it always worked good enough for what I needed. Maybe I just need a Jawbone or some sort of Bluetooth speaker... That would solve all the issues if I couldn't stand using the one on the phone..

speaker is fine, used it all day so far... I'm fairly critical about speakerphones and music, and it sounds fine... no samsung phone has a "great" speaker, but this one is tolerable

Sound issue when using faster playback speeds?

Hi all,
My wife loves watching youtube videos on 1.75-2x speed. We noticed that the sound specially on music played in the video is very distorted/muffled/sounds like youre underwater. This doesn't happen on the iPhone 7 Plus we switched from. I searched all over and couldn't find anything on this other than an old article regarding Android 5.0 where you can disable something called "nuplayer" in developer settings but I don't see this option.
This has been confirmed to happen on both of our Note 10 Plus' on Android 9.
Any help trying to figure this out will be GREATLY appreciated.
Thank you!

Another interesting find is that this also happens on PC! What the heck did Apple do different?! This sucks big time.
I guess case closed. This is a "normal" occurrence.

I think it's the video as I just done it and it sounded ok to me so must be the video and how the sound is coded

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I think it's the video as I just done it and it sounded ok to me so must be the video and how the sound is coded
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Yeah, I'm not too sure! My wife sent me a couple links to test and they both had the same issue. She complains that most videos she watches has that issue. Anything from music to background noises on planes and such (she watches a lot of traveling/food vlogs). I'll PM you a link for the video I'm talking about as I'm not allowed to post links yet.
When the music kicks in, it sounds distorted. This doesn't happen on the iPhone. I really don't understand what would cause this.

Ok I'll have a listen to it now and report back to you

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Ok I'll have a listen to it now and report back to you
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I guess another thing is that it may sound normal to people who are used to it. But if you have an Apple device to test and compare it to, you'd be able to tell the difference right away. When I first heard it, I thought she was crazy until she showed me the difference on our old iPhones. Then it left me wondering why it would do this. Some more articles I stumbled upon mentioned CPU processing power when setting it to a faster playback but I can't imagine the Note 10 Plus being inferior to the iphone 7 plus in processing power.

I couldn't find video or got inbox also dont have an iphone lol