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Speech to Text

I unfortunately own the dreaded bugged Dell Venue Pro. On the plus side though, I have gotten to experience the amazing WinMo7 OS. I love it. I will stick with it when I move on to the next phone and just avoid the con-artists known as Dell.
With that said, one of the very few things that has let me down with WinMo7 and the Mango update, is the speech to text feature. I find it ridiculously inaccurate. I would say it works at about a 5% success rate and is so far off most of the time it is comical.
I was curious if everyone else is having great success with this feature or if it is just me (could be something with my voice or even could just be another bug with the Venue Pro Microphone). Would like to hear how the feature is working for everyone else. Thanks.

English is not my native langauge but it get most of my speech correct. So I have no problem with it.

missionsparta said:
I unfortunately own the dreaded bugged Dell Venue Pro. On the plus side though, I have gotten to experience the amazing WinMo7 OS. I love it. I will stick with it when I move on to the next phone and just avoid the con-artists known as Dell.
With that said, one of the very few things that has let me down with WinMo7 and the Mango update, is the speech to text feature. I find it ridiculously inaccurate. I would say it works at about a 5% success rate and is so far off most of the time it is comical.
I was curious if everyone else is having great success with this feature or if it is just me (could be something with my voice or even could just be another bug with the Venue Pro Microphone). Would like to hear how the feature is working for everyone else. Thanks.
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First of all, as a sidenote, it's Windows Phone, not Windows Mobile. Anyways, text to speech worked pretty well the few times I used it. I noticed that the more clear I speak, the better it recognizes what I say. So no dialects, no mumbling.. I barely use it since I couldn't figure out how to use punctuation so it's kinda useless for me.

i was very excited about this at first, until I ran into the same problem. i keep using it occasionally, hoping it will get it right this time... but anything over 2 or 3 words and it always messes something up. i'm even sure to speak slowly and clearly. all it needs to do is mess one word up and its pointless. if i have to go in and correct something, that ends up taking longer than had i just typed in the first place.

Don't u mean windows phone. Also the dell venue pro is great with mango update, but that doesn't erase their past. Speech to text works well enough for me. Not sure what ur doing wrong but I don't have the big problems u state
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Yeah... Im not sure what the deal is. I don't have a lisp or anything like that .
Does anyone know if the core of the speech to text is shared with the music recognition feature also? Because that thing is buggy as hell to. For a while I would try to use it on songs and it would come back empty. I was starting to think that they just didnt have those songs in their library. But, then when a song was unrecognized, I would switch over to Shazam. Shazam would indicate what the song was, and if I clicked the Zune icon with in the app, it would take me right to the song in the Zune marketplace, so obviously the problem wasnt that they didn't 'carry' that song.
Other than when I have to use the phone to have it 'listen' and recognize what is being played or said, the OS is AMAZING.

In all honesty, I find the clearer and more diss-tinkt-lee I speak, the less it picks up.
It'll be something like this:
Me: Text (wife)
Phone: texting (wife)
Me: Want, to, get, pizza, tonight?
Phone: Went you bet pizza to knight. You can say send or start over.
Me: Start over.
Me: Wanna get pizzatonight
Phone: Wanna get pizza tonight
I kid you not, it picks up all the "gonnas" and what not. However for things longer than two sentences, it's a crap shoot.
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My guess is they purposely coded it to pick up more natural sounding speech patterns.

My favorite is when it takes everyday words and censors them because it thinks you drop so 4 letter bombs.
Example:
To Wife: You looked like a million dollars tonight.
What she gets: You looked like a *#&$&#@! tonight.
Goes over real well...

Works for me okay! I like it when its reading texts with "x's" at the end it reads "kisses" its so funny

sure haven't said:
In all honesty, I find the clearer and more diss-tinkt-lee I speak, the less it picks up.
It'll be something like this:
Me: Text (wife)
Phone: texting (wife)
Me: Want, to, get, pizza, tonight?
Phone: Went you bet pizza to knight. You can say send or start over.
Me: Start over.
Me: Wanna get pizzatonight
Phone: Wanna get pizza tonight
I kid you not, it picks up all the "gonnas" and what not. However for things longer than two sentences, it's a crap shoot.
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My guess is they purposely coded it to pick up more natural sounding speech patterns.
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I'll have to try this.. I wonder if it's true. I was getting frustrated, it seemed like the more deliberate I was the more it ****ed with me.
and I don't get you guys who are saying 'it works good enough'. it either works or doesn't, no? if it doesn't say what you want then it's useless.

I don't bother with speech to text, but what I miss from the old WM 6.5 was MS Voice Command. You can ask "what time is it?"; "what call did I missed?"; "what appointment do I have?", etc.. It would event alert my upcoming appointment by voice! I don't get why MS scraped that and gave us this handicapped voice thing. Why let Apple get all the credit for siri when Voice Command was able do 80% of that 4 years ago?

Don't give Siri too much credit, it was down for hours today....anywho, mine is 90% accurate...sometimes it amazes me that it picked up what I said, but occasionally it will translate some crazy stuff lol.
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i'm sorry but more testing and this is atrocious.
my last two messages contained 'soon though i'm a' which was turned into 'sonoma'. SERIOUS?
and then 'eleven' it interpreted as 'lesson'. wrong amount of syllables, not even close.

missionsparta said:
My favorite is when it takes everyday words and censors them because it thinks you drop so 4 letter bombs.
Example:
To Wife: You looked like a million dollars tonight.
What she gets: You looked like a *#&$&#@! tonight.
Goes over real well...
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It always makes me chuckle that it actually reads off f*ck and sh*t, etc. Even f*cking reads out loud and clear. However yeah, if I dictate a curse word, it replaces it with comic book swear symbols.
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i'm sorry but more testing and this is atrocious.
my last two messages contained 'soon though i'm a' which was turned into 'sonoma'. SERIOUS?
and then 'eleven' it interpreted as 'lesson'. wrong amount of syllables, not even close.
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"soon though I'm a", what was the rest of your sentence? If it was something like "I'm a be at John's house", then that might be your problem. I wouldn't think that urban slang is coded in, making it think you meant something else.

Essentially, Tellme has gotten pretty good for American/British & Aussie accents.
I'm Chinese & my voice is of a higher pitch so Tellme only got it right 50% & assuming the Auto-gain on the Trophy or my Bluetooth headset doesnt attenuate my voice too much.
A Kiwi I know also have the same problem but you know what? It's a lot better now compared to a year ago & the key is to speak naturally.

It's actually working amazingly well for me which is surprising since I have an Australian accent. I find it strange that it's not working too well for you.
Eg, I said 'I'll meet you at the park in 30 minutes but I'll also be stopping for lunch on the way' and it came out as 'I'll meet you at the park in 30 minutes but I'll also be stopping for lunch on my way'. I actually said this quickly (normal conversation speed), and it came out almost perfect. Even with the error (if you could even call it that) the sentence still made perfect sense..

I've found that the slower and clearer i speak the worse it is.
If i just speak normaly to it, it gets it pretty good.

i wonder if this is the issue for me?
are the phone sold with an accent filter?
I'm an Aussie but i live in the UK and i bought my mobile through O2. is there a way to tell the phone to "listen" for an Aussie accent?

I don't think we need something like Siri on WP7, it's a gimmick imo.

SausageSlice said:
I don't think we need something like Siri on WP7, it's a gimmick imo.
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it's marketed as a gimmick but there's no doubt its a useful feature. its capabilities are way beyond Tellme where you have to start off with 1 of only 4 keywords to start an action. i'll give it another few years though until anyone puts out a voice system that is truly useful and accurate.
i will give siri extra credit though.. my brother was messing around with it, and even when he gave commands it wouldn't recognize, it would exactly repeat what he said no matter how bizarre or quick he would talk. i'd imagine it must work well for voice to text.

Is HTC Sense a potential threat to your phone?

Hi all,
I was just wandering, is Sense a threat to your phone? For example, you're in a very important meeting that decides your future, then suddenly, somebody phones you. Then you're like "Oh Crap!" so you flip your phone over, therefore silencing the call. Then an hour later, the meeting finishes. You've either gotten promoted and now you got a high-paying role, or things go South, and you either get de-promoted or stick with your current role, or you just get fired. So you look at your phone, to ring back the nuisance that called you. To make a long story short, you scream. You slouch against a wall and cry in despair. You flipped your phone over with a bit of force. You screen is cracked/smashed/scratched. So now, depending on your current role, you can get a new phone, or have no phone, or just a cheap Nokia. But either way, you liked your HTC a lot.
So, what do you guys think. Have you been in a situation like this. For example, your phone thought you had pockets that were bigger on the inside, and rang quite loud; and you were in your holy place of worship, making matters even worse and quite embarrassing.
So, is HTC Sense a life saving feature, or a terrible feature?
PS: Somebody think of a more effective word then terrible.

Keep holding volume down button till it goes WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY down to vibrate. Done.
btw, how do u have android "3.3" on ur WFS?

Is sense a threat? No. In those scenarios it'd be peoples stupidity for not putting their phone on silent.

SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Keep holding volume down button till it goes WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY down to vibrate. Done.
btw, how do u have android "3.3" on ur WFS?
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I dunno. It was already on there.

This is honestly the most stupid thing I have heard all year. Only a complete moron would smash the screen by turning a phone over
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This post actually has no point!
HTC Sense gives you the Options to disable those features if you don't want them! Simple as that! You have a Smartphone in your hands not a cheap Nokia! lol
There is also a Hidden Feature inside the Sense Rom which if you actually find it then your HTC phone will kill you! Who's that for a threat?
Don't get me wrong I'm just saying the truth!

Its all the users fault. People at school get their phones taken up, only because they wernt smart enough to use the silent mode or turn the phone off. not htcs fault

Dude, how hard do you flip over your phone during meetings!?

sense not bad; just a bit bloated
Bad-Wolf said:
Hi all,
I was just wandering, is Sense a threat to your phone? For example, you're in a very important meeting that decides your future, then suddenly, somebody phones you. Then you're like "Oh Crap!" so you flip your phone over, therefore silencing the call. Then an hour later, the meeting finishes. You've either gotten promoted and now you got a high-paying role, or things go South, and you either get de-promoted or stick with your current role, or you just get fired. So you look at your phone, to ring back the nuisance that called you. To make a long story short, you scream. You slouch against a wall and cry in despair. You flipped your phone over with a bit of force. You screen is cracked/smashed/scratched. So now, depending on your current role, you can get a new phone, or have no phone, or just a cheap Nokia. But either way, you liked your HTC a lot.
So, what do you guys think. Have you been in a situation like this. For example, your phone thought you had pockets that were bigger on the inside, and rang quite loud; and you were in your holy place of worship, making matters even worse and quite embarrassing.
So, is HTC Sense a life saving feature, or a terrible feature?
PS: Somebody think of a more effective word then terrible.
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You are 12 and you are going to work meetings? I totally forgot about the sense discussion. Congrats.
Rob

Bad-Wolf said:
I dunno. It was already on there.
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Android 3.3? Lol that's honeycomb. Do u have a rigged wfs there or something? Make sure its 2.3 not 3.3 lol xD
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using XDA App

SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Android 3.3? Lol that's honeycomb. Do u have a rigged wfs there or something? Make sure its 2.3 not 3.3 lol xD
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using XDA App
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I dunno. As long as I got Android, then I don't care. I'll check when I'm in the developing mood. That's when I got some free time and don't have any homework which the teachers constantly set but when it gets given back it never gets seen by human eyes again!

Just so everyone knows, this thread is mainly a joke. I just thought the whole thing up when I was bored.

Bad-Wolf said:
Just so everyone knows, this thread is mainly a joke. I just thought the whole thing up when I was bored.
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So mods, close it if you wish. Just a bit of Android humour.

I still don't believe the 3.3 and you cracking a phone's screen by turning it around. XD

Android and Sense destroyed my life
Android and Sense destroyed my life
The most disgusting thing in Sense and all launchers is that you can easily switch homescreens by swyping a finger.
I was a very rich man and used to have like 7 women at once. I have 16 children and never had to pay child support because of my women did not know each other.
I paid an agency giving me alibis and stuff, so it would have never been revealed what I was doing.
That changed very hard when I bought my brandnew HTC Device with Android and Sense. So how?
You know, the girls like it when you set their face as wallpaper, having a widget on the homescreen to call or message them instantly and all that stuff.
So I did it for every chick on each homescreen and every girl was happy and so in love.
Well, the other day I just dropped my phone and girlfriend 7 of 7 series 2011 just catched it up, swyping with her palm over the screen. So this was the end. She called girls 1 to 6 and told them the truth. But she did not stop. She also called the 14 girls from 2009 and 2010.
Now I am a poor man. And that just because of some dumg guys of HTC integrated a feature they call "user experience"
So I will never ever buy a smartphone again - and probably will never ever have money for one either ...

Will HTC put aircon support for sense. no? I want a phone with aircon.

SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
I still don't believe the 3.3 and you cracking a phone's screen by turning it around. XD
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I got Android 2.3.3.

Bad-Wolf said:
I got Android 2.3.3.
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But I do have the flip-over thing.

Bad-Wolf said:
But I do have the flip-over thing.
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I'd quite like to see someone smash their phone like that.

Bad-Wolf said:
I'd quite like to see someone smash their phone like that.
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And then i want it to short out and go "kaaputt!!!!!"
then i want smoke and fire and arcs. then iwant the phone to turn into a transformer and kill megatron. then i want it to beat up the guy who should be unloicking the wfs bootloader in htc.

Speaker on phone, really that bad?

I know the Nexus was released today,and instead of asking questions, I should be out getting it, but I feel that I need to ask this question before I go ahead and get it.
The speaker for the speaker phone and audio playback.....is it really as bad as reviewers say? I only ask because I use the speaker on my phone about 2-3 hours per day listening to podcasts, music and such. As silly as it sounds, it is really high on the make or brake list of the phone.
Also, in this same realm, did the update that is being pushed out doing anything for it? I am just curious if it is actual hardware or just software. I know, with my Touchpad, when running WebOS, sound comes out of the speakers perfectly, but when I boot up the CyanogenMod based XRON ROM on it, it is rather awful and pretty much unusable. So, its obviously a software thing, not a hardware thing.
I don't mind waiting a bit to see if more users have more opinions on it, and worst case scenario, if need be, I wouldn't mind waiting until the Razr gets ICS, or at least the CyanogenMod version of it..
Thanks

I haven't had any issues with audio playback. I'm not entirely sure what issues your referring to either so perhaps you could clarify.
Overall I'm very happy with my purchase and would highly recommend it. (coming from a HTC Desire)

There were several places I read it.
This was from this morning (http://tinyurl.com/cv932ov):
Galaxy Nexus speaker blows: The speaker on the Galaxy Nexus is basically useless and one of the worst speakers I have ever used on a phone. It is nearly impossible to use it as a speakerphone and forget about listening to music and podcasts without a headset or external speaker. Some have suggested it might be a software issue and I can only hope so since I can’t even use it with such low volume. The speakers on the iPhone 4S are much better and I have no complaints at all.
I remember both The Cell Phone Junkie and also someone on Android Central mentioning it as well, but with the 2 minutes of searching, I couldn't find it easily on their sites. Its seems people have complained about them being "tinny" and not great at high volumes..
From what it sounds, you have no problems with it at all?

its really not that bad but it improves drastically with the free volume + app
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After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion

I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
Or, with a bad speaker, I guess that is a way to convince the wife to let me put wifi/bluetooth speakers throughout my house.

MikeDaub said:
I guess sitting here reading the internet all day at work is going to make my head spin and I should probably just go pick the thing up and actually try it out for myself.
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Great idea! Best way to make a decision.

RTContent said:
After having a read of that article I'm pretty sure this guy has a biased opinion. Many of these so called issues don't even make sense. For example, better camera (if you look at the example shots hardly any noticeable difference), speaker issue (none of what is stated I can relate to), display too big?(irrelevant, user preference) and 4s being a world phone (doesn't make sense as a GSM gnexus is available).
So basically I don't think this guy really knows what he's talking about. But this is only my opinion
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Ohh, I agree 100% that the article was written by an Iphone user, designed to draw people from Android to IOS. But, like I mentioned, I have heard it before and figured it was easy enough to ask in the forums about it.
I think most of the reviews have come from the GSM version, to there might be a software upgrade that might have helped it..

RTContent said:
Great idea! Best way to make a decision.
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Yea but..... That's another 6 envious hours of sitting at my desk reading about people getting it.. I want it now..

Another Vote for Volume+

Its not bad. Its just not very loud. Shoulda called it quiet speaker.
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I never thought my Incredible's speaker was really loud, but it always worked good enough for what I needed. Maybe I just need a Jawbone or some sort of Bluetooth speaker... That would solve all the issues if I couldn't stand using the one on the phone..

speaker is fine, used it all day so far... I'm fairly critical about speakerphones and music, and it sounds fine... no samsung phone has a "great" speaker, but this one is tolerable

pop up play for HOX

Is there any such mod for the one X which is comparable to the "pop up play" feature in the SGS3?
This might be a deal breaker for me because i often watch a lot of video on the go to pass the time while travelling, i would like to be able to do other things whilst watching the video at the same time.
Maybe something for devs to work on if they havnt already done it?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit

nis-gens said:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.stickit
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Haha wow I never knew such an app existed, thanks!

lostunsunghero said:
Is there any such mod for the one X which is comparable to the "pop up play" feature in the SGS3?
This might be a deal breaker for me because i often watch a lot of video on the go to pass the time while travelling, i would like to be able to do other things whilst watching the video at the same time.
Maybe something for devs to work on if they havnt already done it?
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Just like IPhone, Samsung Copies it and now everyone thinks It's revolutionary.
It's Nothing new, I've been using it for the last 6 months.
Overskreen- A pop up Browser that you can on top of the screen.
Stick It- A pop up video player which you can use on top of the Screen, And It's much better than Samsung's Pop up play, as you can use it with any media and as many videos at once as you like.

TommUK said:
Just like IPhone, Samsung Copies it and now everyone thinks It's revolutionary.
It's Nothing new, I've been using it for the last 6 months.
Overskreen- A pop up Browser that you can on top of the screen.
Stick It- A pop up video player which you can use on top of the Screen, And It's much better than Samsung's Pop up play, as you can use it with any media and as many videos at once as you like.
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When did i say it was revolutionary? I just liked the idea of being able to watch video and browse the web at the same time. I had never heard of the app because i never activley sought after something like that, when it was announced at the SGS3 event i thought hmm what a great idea, i wonder if anyone else has already done this. Hence the opening line in my OP dumbass

TommUK said:
Just like IPhone, Samsung Copies it and now everyone thinks It's revolutionary.
It's Nothing new, I've been using it for the last 6 months.
Overskreen- A pop up Browser that you can on top of the screen.
Stick It- A pop up video player which you can use on top of the Screen, And It's much better than Samsung's Pop up play, as you can use it with any media and as many videos at once as you like.
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Didn't Samsung come out with the idea first in their galaxy tabs and the Samsung apps?
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lostunsunghero said:
When did i say it was revolutionary? I just liked the idea of being able to watch video and browse the web at the same time. I had never heard of the app because i never activley sought after something like that, when it was announced at the SGS3 event i thought hmm what a great idea, i wonder if anyone else has already done this. Hence the opening line in my OP dumbass
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I don't believe Tommy was having a dig at you? Maybe you're a bit naive or you have a paranoia issue? But calling him a dumbass after just informing you on where the idea came from seems pretty "dumbass" to me.
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lostunsunghero said:
When did i say it was revolutionary? I just liked the idea of being able to watch video and browse the web at the same time. I had never heard of the app because i never activley sought after something like that, when it was announced at the SGS3 event i thought hmm what a great idea, i wonder if anyone else has already done this. Hence the opening line in my OP dumbass
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Excuse me? I never meant to touch on your insecurities....
I was merely talking about Samsung, not you. Wow some people.

Sound issue when using faster playback speeds?

Hi all,
My wife loves watching youtube videos on 1.75-2x speed. We noticed that the sound specially on music played in the video is very distorted/muffled/sounds like youre underwater. This doesn't happen on the iPhone 7 Plus we switched from. I searched all over and couldn't find anything on this other than an old article regarding Android 5.0 where you can disable something called "nuplayer" in developer settings but I don't see this option.
This has been confirmed to happen on both of our Note 10 Plus' on Android 9.
Any help trying to figure this out will be GREATLY appreciated.
Thank you!

Another interesting find is that this also happens on PC! What the heck did Apple do different?! This sucks big time.
I guess case closed. This is a "normal" occurrence.

I think it's the video as I just done it and it sounded ok to me so must be the video and how the sound is coded

liggerz87 said:
I think it's the video as I just done it and it sounded ok to me so must be the video and how the sound is coded
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Yeah, I'm not too sure! My wife sent me a couple links to test and they both had the same issue. She complains that most videos she watches has that issue. Anything from music to background noises on planes and such (she watches a lot of traveling/food vlogs). I'll PM you a link for the video I'm talking about as I'm not allowed to post links yet.
When the music kicks in, it sounds distorted. This doesn't happen on the iPhone. I really don't understand what would cause this.

Ok I'll have a listen to it now and report back to you

liggerz87 said:
Ok I'll have a listen to it now and report back to you
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I guess another thing is that it may sound normal to people who are used to it. But if you have an Apple device to test and compare it to, you'd be able to tell the difference right away. When I first heard it, I thought she was crazy until she showed me the difference on our old iPhones. Then it left me wondering why it would do this. Some more articles I stumbled upon mentioned CPU processing power when setting it to a faster playback but I can't imagine the Note 10 Plus being inferior to the iphone 7 plus in processing power.

I couldn't find video or got inbox also dont have an iphone lol