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I'm noticing my idle battery drain on JB is slightly higher (but not significantly so) than it was on ICS. What is your idle battery drain % per hour on JB, and with what setup (ROM, kernel, # accounts syncing, etc.). Could this be entirely due to the "update location" checkbox in Maps (possibly for Google Now)? Any other potential causes?
The first night with Jelly Bean my phone went dead overnight (from about 51%), so I went through my settings and found that it was Google Now and/or the location updating in Maps. Probably contingent on one another. I turned Google Now off and unchecked the "Update Location" settings and the second night it only lost 4% battery in 9 hours.
Note: I also had GPS turned off during that first night so I don't know if that caused higher drain but I'm going to wait to see if it will be addressed in a future OTA before using it again.
I am actually conducting a bit of an experiment to find out more about the battery drain. Im in school so my phone spends a great deal of time on idle as I work. Yesterday I got about 22hrs of battery life with 2 hours of on screen time and some light web browsing, only sync accounts is Google. That was with stock Kernel and BAMF's JB build. This was about the same, maybe even better than my stock ICS 4.0.4. However I flashed James Bond kernel (3.1.9.9) and was pulling 1day 15hrs average with the same kind of usage (maybe enven a little heavier, didnt take screenshots unfortunately). Currently I have Franco kernel (r220 384gpu) loaded and overnight with 4g left on for 8 hours I dropped maybe 5% max.
I have no reason to go back to ICS so I wont do more testing on that front but I plan to try some kernels on the rom I am currently using.
For last night only 3% for 10 hours with wifi is on.
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So idle drain used to about half a percent per hour, today during work it has been 1%+. I noticed the "Keep awake" time under Android OS is over 2 hours even though screen on time is only 40 minutes. This is likely the problem right? I heard about possible issues with Light Flow on JB but I'm not sure if that would show up under Light Flow usage or Android OS. What are some other possible causes for the keep awake time here? Specifically related to Jelly Bean.
My battery drain has remained constant over the upgrade, I am getting about 2 days of battery life on idle, about 1 day on heavy usage.
Anybody else? My idle drain is now consistently at least 1%/hr or slightly more, whereas it used to be half percent/hr. I'd like to know what is causing this increase. Should I turn off Google Now? Are there apps I should try that will tell me? My Android OS keep awake time is still almost 4 times what my screen on time is...I don't think that was the case on ICS. What are other people's keep awake vs. screen on time?
Currently I have about 1hr 10min screen time and OS keep awake time of 7hr 33min. Total time on battery is 1day 2 hours and I still have 35% It seems that the kernel included with the Vicious build does not fit with my usage habbits and will be loading the James Bond or Franco kernel I had before. I feel like they had better deep sleep and governor management for my usage.
My current usage and stat on stock: 1d 16h 30m, 48% bat, 1h58m on screen with wifi is on. it's amazing
Ok, so yesterday I installed BetterBatteryStats. My phoned was unplugged for about 17 1/2 hours, screen on time less than an hour, and the Android OS "Keep awake" time was 15 hours and BBS showed Awake time as the entire 17 1/2 hours, and no deep sleep at all. However, I checked the various other things (wakelocks, processes, etc.) and even the highest item on each list didn't show more time than 10-15 minutes.
So I rebooted, checked several hours later, and it was in deep sleep for 90% of the time. That's good to see, but the issue is the no deep sleep thing keeps happening.
What can I do at this point to figure out exactly what app or process is preventing deep sleep? I've searched around and haven't seen many suggestions beyond BetterBatteryStats, which isn't showing me any major offenders.
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Anybody else? My idle drain is now consistently at least 1%/hr or slightly more, whereas it used to be half percent/hr. I'd like to know what is causing this increase. Should I turn off Google Now? Are there apps I should try that will tell me? My Android OS keep awake time is still almost 4 times what my screen on time is...I don't think that was the case on ICS. What are other people's keep awake vs. screen on time?
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I was thinking the same thing as you just as I was getting ready to charge my phone and wondering why Phone Idle + Maps were a third of my usage. I had 131 hours (32% remaining) on battery with 30% idle and 3% Maps, 33% screen with 2 hours 27 minutes on, 2.5 hours awake. I didn't start noticing this change until the last Maps update and turning on Google Now location stuff. Better Battery Stats also showed an awful lot of wake-ups each time I went to look before charging.
I also didn't notice this problem with 4.0.2 before I made the jump to 4.1.1 so it will be interesting to see if our increase in idle/Maps consumption is because of our Google Apps wanting to know where we are and if other users notice the same thing when they get upgrades - be it community or carrier based.
So my bone stock Note 3 phone all of a sudden started eating up battery. Up until a couple days I could leave it for 9 hours and maybe 2 or 3 percent would be gone. Now after 5 hours it eats up 10 percent. I checked battery use details and it says Android OS is keeping it awake the whole time. So I installed Better Battery Stats and it shows that something called SMD_TTY_DS_RA is keeping a constant wakelock on my device. I'll include a screenshot and a dump file from BBS.
If anyone could help me figure out what this is or point me in the right direction I would really appreciate it.
I have the sabe problem
I installed Google fit the day it was released and my battery seems to be taking a big hit. I was getting 24ish hours with ambient mode on and now I'm not getting 12. Is anyone else seeing this?
I see no difference with or without Google Fit. Are you constantly syncing?
No. In installing it was the only change before the decrease in battery life. Wear battery stats doesn't show any apps using any battery either. Thinking I'll reset the 360 and see if it clears up.
How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
what apps do you have installed? maybe its something else...
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How the **** do people get 24 hours with ambient on, when I barely get to 16 hours with ambient off and a stock black watch face and nearly zero usage of the watch?? I can't help but think I have a bad device and should return it...
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Well, i get up at 5 am and take my watch off the charger and when i out it back on at 11 it usually has over 30% which I'm assuming would be plenty enough to get me back to 5 am if i tried.
I only have Keep, play music, fit interval timer and wear battery stats installed...
I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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mine decreased significantly as well.
I was getting between 4% - 5% drain an hour. Installed Google Fit, drain increased to 10% - 12% per hour.
No apps installed except wear battery stats.
May be you should change location setting..use power saving mode instead of gps
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My battery on the watch is more or less the same but my phone battery has taken a hit for sure .. fit is keeping my phone awake a lot!
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Yeah I noticed this as well. I deleted Fit on my N5 and battery life appears to be better gain.
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I did see a reduction in battery. I didn't think it was Fit until I saw this post. I'm going to give it a day or two... Might be battery recalibration or something. My battery life isn't bad but before fit and the update I was getting about 40-50% per 12 hours... Give or take 10% depending on the notifications and such.
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This is an update: no changes to anything except turning off ambient mode. Ambient mode was on and off throughout the day yesterday because I though that might have been killing the battery. I turned it off during last night's charge cycle to turn the screen off as usual but this time I didn't turn it back on. Normally, leaving on Ambient mode only takes 5-10% in a given day, so I can only assume that either I was moving a lot yesterday or something more sinister was going on.
Still using:
-Nexus 5
-Google FIT, Facer is being used, wear battery, a few other minor apps
-No changes to GPS settings, etc
The watch has been off the charger since 7:30-7:45 (100%) it is now 4:23 (75%) approximately 8 hours @25% , which is closer to my normal battery time. I've been receiving my normal notifications and I haven't even reset my device. Hopefully other people have the same results cause it really sucked last night to have a watch on my arm that didn't even work... lol
i've notice just a small decrease in battery, but not a huge one, i still took off the charger at 6am this morning and still have 51% right now, where as normally i'd have about 65%.
I was at about 55% when I installed the latest Wear update this evening. Three hours later I'm at 16%. Ambient mode off. Gonna keep an eye on it but that Wear update seems to be the culprit for me.
I suspect that the Google Fit is only using phone sensor at the moment and the Fit app is only syncing from the phone and not the otherway round. Checking Heart Rate history on the www.google.com/fit is also not showing anything.
When you check in Google Fit settings in the app, it doesn't show the Moto 360 as an connected device. Not sure if this by design.
How can the heart rate monitor and/or heart activity be turned off completely? I still get these "You've reached your daily goal" messages every single day, sometimes only minutes apart - it gets annoying, quickly. I've switched off all three sections in the settings menu, but it doesn't seem to do the trick.
hi, all i need to know is that this is normal, and ill forget it. i bought a hyperion battery and it kept rebooting my phone which i know like the zero lemon has been a problem. i was getting about 10 hours with that battery so i put back in the stock battery (2 months old) and it goes from 100 to 6 percent in six hours. That's with two phone calls five min each, no gps no Bluetooth no wifi and the screen at 50 percent and the time out at 15 seconds. i close programs all the time.. i have the battery doctor and all of that that tells me when programs are draining, but noting is helping. Is six hours what i should be getting from this battery with light use? i watch you tube videos of guys who get 25 hours but i know thats not the norm. thanks if any one has any feedback on this.
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hi, all i need to know is that this is normal, and ill forget it. i bought a hyperion battery and it kept rebooting my phone which i know like the zero lemon has been a problem. i was getting about 10 hours with that battery so i put back in the stock battery (2 months old) and it goes from 100 to 6 percent in six hours. That's with two phone calls five min each, no gps no Bluetooth no wifi and the screen at 50 percent and the time out at 15 seconds. i close programs all the time.. i have the battery doctor and all of that that tells me when programs are draining, but noting is helping. Is six hours what i should be getting from this battery with light use? i watch you tube videos of guys who get 25 hours but i know thats not the norm. thanks if any one has any feedback on this.
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have you tried a factory reset? i know that has solved other peoples' battery problems
No, this is not normal at all. Either a misbehaving app or battery problems. You can try factory reset and see how much it drains with stock, or you can look for wake locks to see if it's an app before you try get ing a new battery
I'm on the Note 5 ROM and have a zero lemon battery. If I have cell on, I get about 7hrs. I can stretch that out to 10-ish if I keep going in and out of ultra-power save mode. The stock battery (of which I have 3) lasts me 2.5hrs. This is regardless of what ROM I have. Seems when I have cell turned on, the battery dies very quickly.
I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
Honestly, I haven't found much of a need for Greenify, aggressive doze, or wakelock blocking apps on 8.0 and above. It might be beneficial to Greenify battery hungry social media apps (especially those related to Facebook), but then you end up with Greenify running constantly in the background. Plus it requests usage permissions, enabling it as a device admin, etc.
Do you have Adaptive Battery enabled? There is a thread in the general section where a few users have reported that their battery life improved after disabling it.
I came here wondering the same. I had Greenify installed for a while but im not sure its really doing much anymore. I just took the lastest OTA update and im gonna roll without Greenify to see if there's a difference. Ill report back in a few days.
I know it's the wrong phone. But I have just bought a Pixel 3a and am introducing myself to its battery usage. I use Greenify on my Galaxy S7 running superman rom. I forgot to reinstall it last time I reinstalled things and I reckon it makes between 20% and 30% improvement.
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I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
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My idle drain using EX is usually around 2%. What is your charging behavior... overnight and leave with 100% in the morning? I leave mine on the Pixel stand all night. If you are keeping it in your bedroom off-charger, use flip-to-shhh. You should have done that with BBS. If you didn't run BBS again overnight. 100% charged, hot off the charger and flip it upside down. This is just for a proper overnight battery drain test. Second, I would install Accubattery. It is NOT a battery drain app, but rather will eventually zero in on your remaining battery capacity compared with new. It uses several full charging sessions from say above 20% all the way to 100%. After a few full charging sessions it will give you solid information the condition of your battery. Just ruling the battery out here. If Accubattery confirms your battery capacity is well over 90% then you may want to do a fresh install. Sometimes that is the only thing that is going to return the good idle battery drain. Just my .02 cents. Take it for what it's worth. For reference, my battery capacity started at 106% new and is now at 94%. Cheers!