I'm noticing my idle battery drain on JB is slightly higher (but not significantly so) than it was on ICS. What is your idle battery drain % per hour on JB, and with what setup (ROM, kernel, # accounts syncing, etc.). Could this be entirely due to the "update location" checkbox in Maps (possibly for Google Now)? Any other potential causes?
The first night with Jelly Bean my phone went dead overnight (from about 51%), so I went through my settings and found that it was Google Now and/or the location updating in Maps. Probably contingent on one another. I turned Google Now off and unchecked the "Update Location" settings and the second night it only lost 4% battery in 9 hours.
Note: I also had GPS turned off during that first night so I don't know if that caused higher drain but I'm going to wait to see if it will be addressed in a future OTA before using it again.
I am actually conducting a bit of an experiment to find out more about the battery drain. Im in school so my phone spends a great deal of time on idle as I work. Yesterday I got about 22hrs of battery life with 2 hours of on screen time and some light web browsing, only sync accounts is Google. That was with stock Kernel and BAMF's JB build. This was about the same, maybe even better than my stock ICS 4.0.4. However I flashed James Bond kernel (3.1.9.9) and was pulling 1day 15hrs average with the same kind of usage (maybe enven a little heavier, didnt take screenshots unfortunately). Currently I have Franco kernel (r220 384gpu) loaded and overnight with 4g left on for 8 hours I dropped maybe 5% max.
I have no reason to go back to ICS so I wont do more testing on that front but I plan to try some kernels on the rom I am currently using.
For last night only 3% for 10 hours with wifi is on.
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So idle drain used to about half a percent per hour, today during work it has been 1%+. I noticed the "Keep awake" time under Android OS is over 2 hours even though screen on time is only 40 minutes. This is likely the problem right? I heard about possible issues with Light Flow on JB but I'm not sure if that would show up under Light Flow usage or Android OS. What are some other possible causes for the keep awake time here? Specifically related to Jelly Bean.
My battery drain has remained constant over the upgrade, I am getting about 2 days of battery life on idle, about 1 day on heavy usage.
Anybody else? My idle drain is now consistently at least 1%/hr or slightly more, whereas it used to be half percent/hr. I'd like to know what is causing this increase. Should I turn off Google Now? Are there apps I should try that will tell me? My Android OS keep awake time is still almost 4 times what my screen on time is...I don't think that was the case on ICS. What are other people's keep awake vs. screen on time?
Currently I have about 1hr 10min screen time and OS keep awake time of 7hr 33min. Total time on battery is 1day 2 hours and I still have 35% It seems that the kernel included with the Vicious build does not fit with my usage habbits and will be loading the James Bond or Franco kernel I had before. I feel like they had better deep sleep and governor management for my usage.
My current usage and stat on stock: 1d 16h 30m, 48% bat, 1h58m on screen with wifi is on. it's amazing
Ok, so yesterday I installed BetterBatteryStats. My phoned was unplugged for about 17 1/2 hours, screen on time less than an hour, and the Android OS "Keep awake" time was 15 hours and BBS showed Awake time as the entire 17 1/2 hours, and no deep sleep at all. However, I checked the various other things (wakelocks, processes, etc.) and even the highest item on each list didn't show more time than 10-15 minutes.
So I rebooted, checked several hours later, and it was in deep sleep for 90% of the time. That's good to see, but the issue is the no deep sleep thing keeps happening.
What can I do at this point to figure out exactly what app or process is preventing deep sleep? I've searched around and haven't seen many suggestions beyond BetterBatteryStats, which isn't showing me any major offenders.
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Anybody else? My idle drain is now consistently at least 1%/hr or slightly more, whereas it used to be half percent/hr. I'd like to know what is causing this increase. Should I turn off Google Now? Are there apps I should try that will tell me? My Android OS keep awake time is still almost 4 times what my screen on time is...I don't think that was the case on ICS. What are other people's keep awake vs. screen on time?
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I was thinking the same thing as you just as I was getting ready to charge my phone and wondering why Phone Idle + Maps were a third of my usage. I had 131 hours (32% remaining) on battery with 30% idle and 3% Maps, 33% screen with 2 hours 27 minutes on, 2.5 hours awake. I didn't start noticing this change until the last Maps update and turning on Google Now location stuff. Better Battery Stats also showed an awful lot of wake-ups each time I went to look before charging.
I also didn't notice this problem with 4.0.2 before I made the jump to 4.1.1 so it will be interesting to see if our increase in idle/Maps consumption is because of our Google Apps wanting to know where we are and if other users notice the same thing when they get upgrades - be it community or carrier based.
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Hello everyone! I just switched to my first Android device and am truly enjoying the experience. I can't believe I was using an iPhone for so long. I finished draining my battery for the first time and recharged it and am draining it again. My phone indicates that the screen is consuming around 66-70% of the battery drainage while everything else is quite low such as the Android OS taking up about 12%. Is this typical and does it improve over time? Thank you for your help.
this is normal but seems like that is pretty heavy use. if your phone was barely used then that is not normal.
I am going to further diagnose this. I have my brightness set to auto. I wasn't really using the phone that much. I flashed it to the yakju build and it is running 4.0.2. Is there anything I should do to test the phone?
what is your screen on time
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9h 56m on bettery
Android OS 33%
Phone Idle 30%
Cell Standby 22%
Screen 9% (on time 9m)
Wifi 5%
Google Services 2%
This is after the phone being nearly untouched most of the day, no calls or texts and nothing being done but checking my email once not too long ago. It's on Auto-brightness which sucks because it appears to be on the darkest setting but without that my battery seems to go from full charge to 50% in 1-2hours with moderate usage (Browsing the web, Checking email, Browsing Market, few phone calls and texts) and it sucks that I feel like I cant play with the phone because it'll be dead when I need it and without Auto-brightness the battery dies even quicker.
Almost feel like I need to be tethered to the charger.
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9h 56m on bettery
Android OS 33%
Phone Idle 30%
Cell Standby 22%
Screen 9% (on time 9m)
Wifi 5%
Google Services 2%
This is after the phone being nearly untouched most of the day, no calls or texts and nothing being done but checking my email once not too long ago. It's on Auto-brightness which sucks because it appears to be on the darkest setting but without that my battery seems to go from full charge to 50% in 1-2hours with moderate usage (Browsing the web, Checking email, Browsing Market, few phone calls and texts) and it sucks that I feel like I cant play with the phone because it'll be dead when I need it and without Auto-brightness the battery dies even quicker.
Almost feel like I need to be tethered to the charger.
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you either have really bad signal and/or 4g and/or a process keeping the phone awake, in your case the high cell standby time suggests the first two
This seems common for the lte version. The gsm version gets very good battery life especially idle drain. Turn off lte is your best option.
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Hello everyone! I just switched to my first Android device and am truly enjoying the experience. I can't believe I was using an iPhone for so long. I finished draining my battery for the first time and recharged it and am draining it again. My phone indicates that the screen is consuming around 66-70% of the battery drainage while everything else is quite low such as the Android OS taking up about 12%. Is this typical and does it improve over time? Thank you for your help.
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Assuming you have the screen on a lot then yes. Those big beautiful screens are hard on a battery.
If you're on the LTE version using 3G only you will get around 3 hours screen on time MAX.
GSM version you will probably get 3-4 hours screen on time per charge.
Hey, I'm running (CDMA) CM 9 (6-18 build winner00) and Franco . Kernel nightly #194 with the 512mhz GPU. This morning I unplugged my phone and let it sit for a little and ended up with this: (attached)
Any idea? I checked BetterBatteryStats and I don't have any noticeable wake locks either.
I'm kind of confused what I'm looking at but what I think you mean is that you never touched your phone for an hour, yet your screen was on for 30 minutes? I guess something was keeping your screen on without any user input. Have you checked Settings --> Display --> sleep set to (30 seconds or whatever you want) of inactivity? Perhaps it is a misbehaving app that is causing your screen to stay on.
Oh my bad, should have clarified. With those stats and screen time, I don't know how I can already be at 82% :/
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Actually... that's quite average if not just a tiny bit below average. A battery usually doesn't charge all the way to 100%, it tops off at around 95-98%, so you went down 13-16% with over half an hour of screen time and approximately an hour of normal time. 4+ hours screen time is actually considered good, which is the track that you are on (13%/30 minutes). Standby will drastically save you battery as well... which can translate to 15+ hours and 3+ hours of screen time (depends on the user). Also to take into account, the first 10-20% of the battery drains faster than the rest of it as well.
Hi all,
I've had for the past couple of months some pretty dire battery life on my phone and I'm unsure as to what exactly it is thats causing it.
A couple of months ago I was on the Modaco custom ROM, i think it was version ir8, and I was able to use my phone lightly during the day from 7am every now and then, and by the end of the day say around 10pm id still have at least 60% left. At the time the longest i went without a charge was about 2 days and maybe 4-6 hours. I can't remember exactly.
Anyway, I updated the rom a couple of times, and things have never been the same. I tried reverting to the older version but things were still bad. I also tried a different rom (AOKP) which im still on now, but still things are not right.
Right now after ~14 hours on battery I have 45% left, and this is actually a good day...usually with similar use id be lucky to have 20% remaining by now. I'm unable to post images it seems. I wanted to post an image showing 63% battery, 9 hours 49 mins. Android OS > 28%, screen > 26%, phone idle > 17%, mobile stand by > 12 %, maps > 5%, wifi > 3%
Up until I noticed my battery life going down the drain I never noticed the android os using up much battery, but maybe I just wasn't looking for anything. It doesnt seem right to me however....
What steps can I take to properly figure out where the problem lies?
For reference I'm on the AOKP ROM build 40, and franco kernel milestone 4 on GSM Galaxy Nexus. Any other info needed?
Calibrate the battery. Charge full. Pull charger. Turn off. Plug back in. Charge full. Pull battery about 30 seconds. Pop back in. Turn on. And see what happens.
butter and jelly please...
You could try something like CPUSpy from the market and see what is keeping your system awake and active. Or Watchdog
Edit: I actually stopped using Watchdog because it ate more battery than what it s service was worth.
I tried calibrating as mentioned which didn't seem to do anything.
Tried CPU spy and nothing seemed odd. Most of the time was spent in the lowest frequency or in deep sleep.
I've just installed the MCR jelly bean ROM last night. And I've instantly noticed massively improved battery life, however I haven't fully restored all my apps and data yet, so I'm slightly dubious as to whether this will remain.
If once I restore all the apps and data I get battery issues again, is there anything else I could do to try and find out the route cause?
Would a log cat help?
Thanks
search the forum for betterbatterystats, if this is an app issue, then bbs will find out which app is behaving weird
Reading through some battery threads I was told that the "proper" way to check your overnight drain was to charge up to 100% and not touch it until the next morning. I tried this last night and WiFi drain was in the 30% range (I used my phone before taking the screenshot which is why it's at 22%) with a total drop of 7% (100-93% over 8 hours).
Does this seem high?
I've got WiFi, NFC, battery saver location, mobile data, and double tap to wake on. The phone is rooted and I'm using a custom kernel (but I'm pretty sure it happened with the stock kernel too). I also have an Android Wear watch attached all night. On AOSP ROMs on my OP3T overnight drain was around 2% if I started at 100% and WiFi was never more than maybe 6% of total drain. Again, I'm not asking how to fix this, I'm just wondering if this is something that others are experiencing.
Thanks!
Mine dropped 2% over four hours of sleep. I'll try with battery saver on.
Mine averages about 3% in 8hrs with wifi on, I'll post a screenshot tomorrow, on freedomos using simplegx kernel
My WiFi drain is very low during idle. Like most flagships of this era.
mine is as same as op, but last night i charged it upto 74 and slept and when i got up after 6 hrs or so it dropped 2 %, strange ... maybe it's the way the phone is charged and calibrated for dash charging
I'm loosing 4-5% in 8 hours.
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My WiFi drain is very low during idle. Like most flagships of this era.
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Thanks for these screenshots. Obviously I don't have nearly the SOT that you do in my screenshot, but it looks like if our SOTs were the same you'd probably have similar WiFi percent usage.
Mine's been surprisingly bad - at least, worse than my Moto G5S, Galaxy S8+ or iPhone 8 Plus were. I'm losing like 5-7% every four hours, my battery drain while connected to wifi at work is way worse than either of the other phones mentioned too.
All in all it's kind of disappointing considering how good the OP5T is in literally every other regard.
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Thanks for these screenshots. Obviously I don't have nearly the SOT that you do in my screenshot, but it looks like if our SOTs were the same you'd probably have similar WiFi percent usage.
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We may have similar WiFi usage. But my drain is about .5% per hour, overnight. I don't consider that high, and battery consumption has to be attributed to something. Here is my current usage since yesterday's charge.
On 8.0 the WiFi drain % is even lower, but idle drain per hour is the same. So it doesn't really matter.
Very bad.. Battery go. Down quickly in night..
My wifi drain is also really bad on the latest 4.7.4
Hope they release a fix soon...
Edit... I did a fresh install with stock 4.7.4 and it isn't as bad but still is present. At least it's more tolerable.
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So I did another test last night (4.7.4 and SimpleGX kernel) and had 3% drain. With all the comments here I think the high percentage of WiFi is normal and probably not affecting battery life a lot. I am starting to think the kernel may be providing better results than stock 4.7.4 though since a lot of people are mentioning poor battery on 4.7.4.
I don't even know how long, all I can say is my battery drains 3% every 9 and a half hours. Both bluetooth and wifi was on. This is on the stock rom and kernal, not sure how you guys have such high battery drain... Are you guys sure it isn't another app hijacking your battery? Because from my experience the battery stats isn't always perfect. Sometimes I was told that it was my screen (on my old phone) in which it was actually a 3rd party app. After removing the app, my battery drain went a lot slower than usual.
Has anyone tried this toggle in Developer options?
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Has anyone tried this toggle in Developer options?
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Just tried that setting last night and it doesn't make much difference.
For all wondering I have an Android Wear device connected 24/7 and location set to battery saving. I also keep NFC and data on all night. I'm not using screen-off gestures though.
I wish it was only 7% or something like that on my OP5T.
I used to be one of you 3%-battery-"drain"-at-night-guys, until the official update to Oreo. Now it uses 36% in 6h38m, of which WiFi is reported being 29% (1044mah, despite 0m active and background usage reported). There is 2.8MB additional use according to the WiFi data usage report that was set to count from today, yet the numbers per app have decreased, so there goes reliability on that. I haven't added or removed any apps, only wiped cache after the update. On standby, it only takes 18 hours for it to drain, which used to be several days.
Another weird thing is that WiFi is terribly slow since the same update, but only on this device. (No numbers yet)
Right now my plan is to test all the mentioned related settings, as well as WiFi off, make screenshots after each nightly test, and finally do a complete wipe and perform the same tests with a minimum of apps, and then redo them again with my usual set of apps. It could still be one or more apps that misbehave on Oreo specifically I suppose, so if there's any indication for that, I will start eliminating apps one by one until I find the culprit.
I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
Honestly, I haven't found much of a need for Greenify, aggressive doze, or wakelock blocking apps on 8.0 and above. It might be beneficial to Greenify battery hungry social media apps (especially those related to Facebook), but then you end up with Greenify running constantly in the background. Plus it requests usage permissions, enabling it as a device admin, etc.
Do you have Adaptive Battery enabled? There is a thread in the general section where a few users have reported that their battery life improved after disabling it.
I came here wondering the same. I had Greenify installed for a while but im not sure its really doing much anymore. I just took the lastest OTA update and im gonna roll without Greenify to see if there's a difference. Ill report back in a few days.
I know it's the wrong phone. But I have just bought a Pixel 3a and am introducing myself to its battery usage. I use Greenify on my Galaxy S7 running superman rom. I forgot to reinstall it last time I reinstalled things and I reckon it makes between 20% and 30% improvement.
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I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
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My idle drain using EX is usually around 2%. What is your charging behavior... overnight and leave with 100% in the morning? I leave mine on the Pixel stand all night. If you are keeping it in your bedroom off-charger, use flip-to-shhh. You should have done that with BBS. If you didn't run BBS again overnight. 100% charged, hot off the charger and flip it upside down. This is just for a proper overnight battery drain test. Second, I would install Accubattery. It is NOT a battery drain app, but rather will eventually zero in on your remaining battery capacity compared with new. It uses several full charging sessions from say above 20% all the way to 100%. After a few full charging sessions it will give you solid information the condition of your battery. Just ruling the battery out here. If Accubattery confirms your battery capacity is well over 90% then you may want to do a fresh install. Sometimes that is the only thing that is going to return the good idle battery drain. Just my .02 cents. Take it for what it's worth. For reference, my battery capacity started at 106% new and is now at 94%. Cheers!