I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
Honestly, I haven't found much of a need for Greenify, aggressive doze, or wakelock blocking apps on 8.0 and above. It might be beneficial to Greenify battery hungry social media apps (especially those related to Facebook), but then you end up with Greenify running constantly in the background. Plus it requests usage permissions, enabling it as a device admin, etc.
Do you have Adaptive Battery enabled? There is a thread in the general section where a few users have reported that their battery life improved after disabling it.
I came here wondering the same. I had Greenify installed for a while but im not sure its really doing much anymore. I just took the lastest OTA update and im gonna roll without Greenify to see if there's a difference. Ill report back in a few days.
I know it's the wrong phone. But I have just bought a Pixel 3a and am introducing myself to its battery usage. I use Greenify on my Galaxy S7 running superman rom. I forgot to reinstall it last time I reinstalled things and I reckon it makes between 20% and 30% improvement.
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I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
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My idle drain using EX is usually around 2%. What is your charging behavior... overnight and leave with 100% in the morning? I leave mine on the Pixel stand all night. If you are keeping it in your bedroom off-charger, use flip-to-shhh. You should have done that with BBS. If you didn't run BBS again overnight. 100% charged, hot off the charger and flip it upside down. This is just for a proper overnight battery drain test. Second, I would install Accubattery. It is NOT a battery drain app, but rather will eventually zero in on your remaining battery capacity compared with new. It uses several full charging sessions from say above 20% all the way to 100%. After a few full charging sessions it will give you solid information the condition of your battery. Just ruling the battery out here. If Accubattery confirms your battery capacity is well over 90% then you may want to do a fresh install. Sometimes that is the only thing that is going to return the good idle battery drain. Just my .02 cents. Take it for what it's worth. For reference, my battery capacity started at 106% new and is now at 94%. Cheers!
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When I woke up this morning, I turned off my phone and after it booted up I unplugged it, because I wanted to get a realistic idea of it's battery life (it's been fluctuation on me). It was at 100% I'm reading at 19% now, I have an Up time of 3:12:00 and an Awake time of 2:44:16 (I have been using it pretty constantly, so the awake time doesn't worry me too much). This is obviously ridiculous, this could possibly die in less than 3 & 1/2 to 4 hours. Battery use is: Android System: 58%, Display: 17%, Cell standby: 14%, Everlands Lite: 6%, Phone idle: 3%, android.process.acore: 2%. I just downloaded Everlands today and played it a lot, but with that low of a percent it can't possibly be an issue. I'm running Damage Control v3.2, and I'll post the DConfig in the next post.
DConfig
Basic Tweaks:
ZipAlign On Boot
swppart
Swappyness: 30
Dalvik heap: 32mb
LowMemKiller: Evo 150mb
Advanced Tweaks:
Up threshold: 95
sampling_rate: 200000
Dirty_Background_Ratio: 5
Dirty_Ratio:15
Dirty_Writeback: 1500
Dirty_Expire: 600
JIT is NOT enabled
Advanced Tweaks2:
vfs_cache_pressure: 100
Banned Apps:
Launcher
Sense
I had Sprint apps banned but then unbanned them. I only got Sprint Nascar back.
Debug Profile:
Page-Cluster: 3
laptop_mode: 0
Dirty_Expire: 600
Dirty_Writeback: 1500
Dirty_Background: 5
Dirty_Ratio: 15
Up_Threshold:95
Sampling_Rate: 200000
lowmem: 3584,4096,6144,38400,38912,4860
Please, any explanation for why my battery drain has suddenly jumped up so much would be greatly appreciated!
did your battery suddenly start dying quick? mine will last all day ONLY if i leave it alone all day, no calls or anything. If I use it minimally i get about half a day and if I have heavy usage on it then I get about 4 hours or so.
Prior Battery Life
I was able to go about 17 hours off the charger once without holding back on my usage at all, and that wasn't a huge outlier. Seriously, I know I've been able to get at LEAST 12 hours out of it streaming Pandora for an hour plus lots of texting, twitter, facebook, web browsing, and even moderate GPS usage.
I think other battery threads would be more useful if they included Awake time more often, because obviously I am not having a problem with it not going to sleep (since I was actually using the thing almost the entire time I had it off the charger).
You may actually have a bad battery. Mine gets unplugged at 6am, has a 30 min charge at 8pm on my way home in the car, then plugged in at 11:30 or 12 with 40% left.
The only thing I have done is kill most of the widgets, use a static background and that is about it.
you might have a bad battery, or maybe it was just something for that time. if it keeps happening, go back to sprint and they'll probably give you another battery or even phone (assuming they have them in stock)
Battery Defect?
I tried the method that one user supposedly learned from HTC ( I can't post a link but it's titled "Official response from HTC RE: How to double battery Life (WORKS!) + 2nd Reply" ), and I'm not sure I've gotten the same battery life out of it since that happened. I just got it charged back up to 100% now, I'm going to try upgrading to Damage Control v3.2.2.1 and I'll throw it into the Power Save mode in the DConfig, then see how long it lasts.
I've had the phone since Sept 6th and this is 4th day I have my phone.
My battery life has been draining like crazy. I don't have a data plan, but I do go on wifi sometimes (not very often, and I don't keep it on for long). Maybe in total an hour to two a day.
I wouldn't say I am a heavy user, I don't play any games or watch any videos nor listen to music at all. I only sms and download apps.
It's been 5h 42m 35s since unplugged and my battery life is down to 57. I hardly use it, my settings are pretty much the lowest.
It says
Android System 40%
Cell standby 21%
Phone idle 13%
Display 12% (weird, since I have animations are turned off and I used lowest brightness)
Camera 6% (I took 3 photos)
Wifi 4%
Maps 2%
Dialer 2%
about 2 hours ago, I rooted my desire since I've read reviews that it makes it faster, prolongs battery life and what not. (plus I could do so much more with it later on). But my battery was still draining at like 1% every minute and half that I touch it. (I also have task killer, but I don't kill task very often)
Then my friend suggested I get SetCPU (which I did) around 2 hours ago after I rooted my phone. Then I went out and hardly touched the phone unless I received sms, or to check the time. And it went from like 69 to 56 (within that 2 hours of doing nothing)
I've searched the forum for extending battery life (and googled as well) and read other users who have the same problem, and I pretty much did what was recommended but it's still draining.
I can hardly make it through the day!!
Is there any other way that I can charge it (when to charge it) or.. do you think it might be my battery's problem? Should I buy a new one?
Thanks for all the help again (I know this kind of thread has already been done, but that was in like April)
Your battery takes time to settle if it's a brand new device. It takes a few charge/discharge cycles for that.
If after say 14 days you are still getting poor life I'd try calibrating it. Instructions are HERE.
thanks! i will try that if my battery life still drains this crazily in a week.
I'm noticing my idle battery drain on JB is slightly higher (but not significantly so) than it was on ICS. What is your idle battery drain % per hour on JB, and with what setup (ROM, kernel, # accounts syncing, etc.). Could this be entirely due to the "update location" checkbox in Maps (possibly for Google Now)? Any other potential causes?
The first night with Jelly Bean my phone went dead overnight (from about 51%), so I went through my settings and found that it was Google Now and/or the location updating in Maps. Probably contingent on one another. I turned Google Now off and unchecked the "Update Location" settings and the second night it only lost 4% battery in 9 hours.
Note: I also had GPS turned off during that first night so I don't know if that caused higher drain but I'm going to wait to see if it will be addressed in a future OTA before using it again.
I am actually conducting a bit of an experiment to find out more about the battery drain. Im in school so my phone spends a great deal of time on idle as I work. Yesterday I got about 22hrs of battery life with 2 hours of on screen time and some light web browsing, only sync accounts is Google. That was with stock Kernel and BAMF's JB build. This was about the same, maybe even better than my stock ICS 4.0.4. However I flashed James Bond kernel (3.1.9.9) and was pulling 1day 15hrs average with the same kind of usage (maybe enven a little heavier, didnt take screenshots unfortunately). Currently I have Franco kernel (r220 384gpu) loaded and overnight with 4g left on for 8 hours I dropped maybe 5% max.
I have no reason to go back to ICS so I wont do more testing on that front but I plan to try some kernels on the rom I am currently using.
For last night only 3% for 10 hours with wifi is on.
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So idle drain used to about half a percent per hour, today during work it has been 1%+. I noticed the "Keep awake" time under Android OS is over 2 hours even though screen on time is only 40 minutes. This is likely the problem right? I heard about possible issues with Light Flow on JB but I'm not sure if that would show up under Light Flow usage or Android OS. What are some other possible causes for the keep awake time here? Specifically related to Jelly Bean.
My battery drain has remained constant over the upgrade, I am getting about 2 days of battery life on idle, about 1 day on heavy usage.
Anybody else? My idle drain is now consistently at least 1%/hr or slightly more, whereas it used to be half percent/hr. I'd like to know what is causing this increase. Should I turn off Google Now? Are there apps I should try that will tell me? My Android OS keep awake time is still almost 4 times what my screen on time is...I don't think that was the case on ICS. What are other people's keep awake vs. screen on time?
Currently I have about 1hr 10min screen time and OS keep awake time of 7hr 33min. Total time on battery is 1day 2 hours and I still have 35% It seems that the kernel included with the Vicious build does not fit with my usage habbits and will be loading the James Bond or Franco kernel I had before. I feel like they had better deep sleep and governor management for my usage.
My current usage and stat on stock: 1d 16h 30m, 48% bat, 1h58m on screen with wifi is on. it's amazing
Ok, so yesterday I installed BetterBatteryStats. My phoned was unplugged for about 17 1/2 hours, screen on time less than an hour, and the Android OS "Keep awake" time was 15 hours and BBS showed Awake time as the entire 17 1/2 hours, and no deep sleep at all. However, I checked the various other things (wakelocks, processes, etc.) and even the highest item on each list didn't show more time than 10-15 minutes.
So I rebooted, checked several hours later, and it was in deep sleep for 90% of the time. That's good to see, but the issue is the no deep sleep thing keeps happening.
What can I do at this point to figure out exactly what app or process is preventing deep sleep? I've searched around and haven't seen many suggestions beyond BetterBatteryStats, which isn't showing me any major offenders.
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Anybody else? My idle drain is now consistently at least 1%/hr or slightly more, whereas it used to be half percent/hr. I'd like to know what is causing this increase. Should I turn off Google Now? Are there apps I should try that will tell me? My Android OS keep awake time is still almost 4 times what my screen on time is...I don't think that was the case on ICS. What are other people's keep awake vs. screen on time?
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I was thinking the same thing as you just as I was getting ready to charge my phone and wondering why Phone Idle + Maps were a third of my usage. I had 131 hours (32% remaining) on battery with 30% idle and 3% Maps, 33% screen with 2 hours 27 minutes on, 2.5 hours awake. I didn't start noticing this change until the last Maps update and turning on Google Now location stuff. Better Battery Stats also showed an awful lot of wake-ups each time I went to look before charging.
I also didn't notice this problem with 4.0.2 before I made the jump to 4.1.1 so it will be interesting to see if our increase in idle/Maps consumption is because of our Google Apps wanting to know where we are and if other users notice the same thing when they get upgrades - be it community or carrier based.
Hi,
I have had this tablet (N5100) for a couple of weeks now and am wondering what the average battery drain for others/you is like?
Mine is draining around 1%/H when idle / sleep (screen off, wifi-on scheduled with juice defender, Mobile Data off, Cell Radio on) with little to no activity.
so after my 4-5 hour sleep it's down by 5-6 %. is it normal, too high/ too low?
my other device samsung galaxy player YP-G70 has much better results, but then that is a totally different hardware altogether!.
Thanks.
1%/h would translate into avg current of 46mA, which is not bad, any higher value would be a reason to investigate. On my device, after some tweaking the standby current as estimated by the Battery Monitor Widget is between 10-40 mA.
Anyway, if you want to find the apps eating your battery during standby, check the better battery stats thread.
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Hi,
I have done a few tests of my own.
Overnight my battery drain is 1%(about 9/11 hrs )
I further ran a test in standby for over 24 hrs and
battery drain was only 6%.(from 100% down to 94% )
Good luck
Just want to add ,i get like 2mA in standby,
Also the 6 % drain (in 25 hrs plus some min.)
Include my twitter updates ,weather,market apps update, etc once or so .data off there after.
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willcor said:
Hi,
I have done a few tests of my own.
Overnight my battery drain is 1%(about 9/11 hrs )
I further ran a test in standby for over 24 hrs and
battery drain was only 6%.(from 100% down to 94% )
Good luck
Just want to add ,i get like 2mA in standby,
Also the 6 % drain (in 25 hrs plus some min.)
Include my twitter updates ,weather,market apps update, etc once or so .data off there after.
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wow, that's a little depressing! haha
I guess i'll have to go on some app shooting spree and see what i end up with.
As of now i have put google currents to sync only while charging and disabled google now and some location stuff in google maps and that seems to have improved things some bit already.
bad or good battery
I play samsung note 8 without screen off , and screen on just 4 hour
i think note 8 only survive 1%/5 minute
If play 1% just only 2 minute
Reading through some battery threads I was told that the "proper" way to check your overnight drain was to charge up to 100% and not touch it until the next morning. I tried this last night and WiFi drain was in the 30% range (I used my phone before taking the screenshot which is why it's at 22%) with a total drop of 7% (100-93% over 8 hours).
Does this seem high?
I've got WiFi, NFC, battery saver location, mobile data, and double tap to wake on. The phone is rooted and I'm using a custom kernel (but I'm pretty sure it happened with the stock kernel too). I also have an Android Wear watch attached all night. On AOSP ROMs on my OP3T overnight drain was around 2% if I started at 100% and WiFi was never more than maybe 6% of total drain. Again, I'm not asking how to fix this, I'm just wondering if this is something that others are experiencing.
Thanks!
Mine dropped 2% over four hours of sleep. I'll try with battery saver on.
Mine averages about 3% in 8hrs with wifi on, I'll post a screenshot tomorrow, on freedomos using simplegx kernel
My WiFi drain is very low during idle. Like most flagships of this era.
mine is as same as op, but last night i charged it upto 74 and slept and when i got up after 6 hrs or so it dropped 2 %, strange ... maybe it's the way the phone is charged and calibrated for dash charging
I'm loosing 4-5% in 8 hours.
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My WiFi drain is very low during idle. Like most flagships of this era.
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Thanks for these screenshots. Obviously I don't have nearly the SOT that you do in my screenshot, but it looks like if our SOTs were the same you'd probably have similar WiFi percent usage.
Mine's been surprisingly bad - at least, worse than my Moto G5S, Galaxy S8+ or iPhone 8 Plus were. I'm losing like 5-7% every four hours, my battery drain while connected to wifi at work is way worse than either of the other phones mentioned too.
All in all it's kind of disappointing considering how good the OP5T is in literally every other regard.
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Thanks for these screenshots. Obviously I don't have nearly the SOT that you do in my screenshot, but it looks like if our SOTs were the same you'd probably have similar WiFi percent usage.
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We may have similar WiFi usage. But my drain is about .5% per hour, overnight. I don't consider that high, and battery consumption has to be attributed to something. Here is my current usage since yesterday's charge.
On 8.0 the WiFi drain % is even lower, but idle drain per hour is the same. So it doesn't really matter.
Very bad.. Battery go. Down quickly in night..
My wifi drain is also really bad on the latest 4.7.4
Hope they release a fix soon...
Edit... I did a fresh install with stock 4.7.4 and it isn't as bad but still is present. At least it's more tolerable.
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So I did another test last night (4.7.4 and SimpleGX kernel) and had 3% drain. With all the comments here I think the high percentage of WiFi is normal and probably not affecting battery life a lot. I am starting to think the kernel may be providing better results than stock 4.7.4 though since a lot of people are mentioning poor battery on 4.7.4.
I don't even know how long, all I can say is my battery drains 3% every 9 and a half hours. Both bluetooth and wifi was on. This is on the stock rom and kernal, not sure how you guys have such high battery drain... Are you guys sure it isn't another app hijacking your battery? Because from my experience the battery stats isn't always perfect. Sometimes I was told that it was my screen (on my old phone) in which it was actually a 3rd party app. After removing the app, my battery drain went a lot slower than usual.
Has anyone tried this toggle in Developer options?
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Has anyone tried this toggle in Developer options?
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Just tried that setting last night and it doesn't make much difference.
For all wondering I have an Android Wear device connected 24/7 and location set to battery saving. I also keep NFC and data on all night. I'm not using screen-off gestures though.
I wish it was only 7% or something like that on my OP5T.
I used to be one of you 3%-battery-"drain"-at-night-guys, until the official update to Oreo. Now it uses 36% in 6h38m, of which WiFi is reported being 29% (1044mah, despite 0m active and background usage reported). There is 2.8MB additional use according to the WiFi data usage report that was set to count from today, yet the numbers per app have decreased, so there goes reliability on that. I haven't added or removed any apps, only wiped cache after the update. On standby, it only takes 18 hours for it to drain, which used to be several days.
Another weird thing is that WiFi is terribly slow since the same update, but only on this device. (No numbers yet)
Right now my plan is to test all the mentioned related settings, as well as WiFi off, make screenshots after each nightly test, and finally do a complete wipe and perform the same tests with a minimum of apps, and then redo them again with my usual set of apps. It could still be one or more apps that misbehave on Oreo specifically I suppose, so if there's any indication for that, I will start eliminating apps one by one until I find the culprit.