Reading through some battery threads I was told that the "proper" way to check your overnight drain was to charge up to 100% and not touch it until the next morning. I tried this last night and WiFi drain was in the 30% range (I used my phone before taking the screenshot which is why it's at 22%) with a total drop of 7% (100-93% over 8 hours).
Does this seem high?
I've got WiFi, NFC, battery saver location, mobile data, and double tap to wake on. The phone is rooted and I'm using a custom kernel (but I'm pretty sure it happened with the stock kernel too). I also have an Android Wear watch attached all night. On AOSP ROMs on my OP3T overnight drain was around 2% if I started at 100% and WiFi was never more than maybe 6% of total drain. Again, I'm not asking how to fix this, I'm just wondering if this is something that others are experiencing.
Thanks!
Mine dropped 2% over four hours of sleep. I'll try with battery saver on.
Mine averages about 3% in 8hrs with wifi on, I'll post a screenshot tomorrow, on freedomos using simplegx kernel
My WiFi drain is very low during idle. Like most flagships of this era.
mine is as same as op, but last night i charged it upto 74 and slept and when i got up after 6 hrs or so it dropped 2 %, strange ... maybe it's the way the phone is charged and calibrated for dash charging
I'm loosing 4-5% in 8 hours.
xocomaox said:
My WiFi drain is very low during idle. Like most flagships of this era.
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Thanks for these screenshots. Obviously I don't have nearly the SOT that you do in my screenshot, but it looks like if our SOTs were the same you'd probably have similar WiFi percent usage.
Mine's been surprisingly bad - at least, worse than my Moto G5S, Galaxy S8+ or iPhone 8 Plus were. I'm losing like 5-7% every four hours, my battery drain while connected to wifi at work is way worse than either of the other phones mentioned too.
All in all it's kind of disappointing considering how good the OP5T is in literally every other regard.
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Thanks for these screenshots. Obviously I don't have nearly the SOT that you do in my screenshot, but it looks like if our SOTs were the same you'd probably have similar WiFi percent usage.
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We may have similar WiFi usage. But my drain is about .5% per hour, overnight. I don't consider that high, and battery consumption has to be attributed to something. Here is my current usage since yesterday's charge.
On 8.0 the WiFi drain % is even lower, but idle drain per hour is the same. So it doesn't really matter.
Very bad.. Battery go. Down quickly in night..
My wifi drain is also really bad on the latest 4.7.4
Hope they release a fix soon...
Edit... I did a fresh install with stock 4.7.4 and it isn't as bad but still is present. At least it's more tolerable.
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So I did another test last night (4.7.4 and SimpleGX kernel) and had 3% drain. With all the comments here I think the high percentage of WiFi is normal and probably not affecting battery life a lot. I am starting to think the kernel may be providing better results than stock 4.7.4 though since a lot of people are mentioning poor battery on 4.7.4.
I don't even know how long, all I can say is my battery drains 3% every 9 and a half hours. Both bluetooth and wifi was on. This is on the stock rom and kernal, not sure how you guys have such high battery drain... Are you guys sure it isn't another app hijacking your battery? Because from my experience the battery stats isn't always perfect. Sometimes I was told that it was my screen (on my old phone) in which it was actually a 3rd party app. After removing the app, my battery drain went a lot slower than usual.
Has anyone tried this toggle in Developer options?
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Has anyone tried this toggle in Developer options?
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Just tried that setting last night and it doesn't make much difference.
For all wondering I have an Android Wear device connected 24/7 and location set to battery saving. I also keep NFC and data on all night. I'm not using screen-off gestures though.
I wish it was only 7% or something like that on my OP5T.
I used to be one of you 3%-battery-"drain"-at-night-guys, until the official update to Oreo. Now it uses 36% in 6h38m, of which WiFi is reported being 29% (1044mah, despite 0m active and background usage reported). There is 2.8MB additional use according to the WiFi data usage report that was set to count from today, yet the numbers per app have decreased, so there goes reliability on that. I haven't added or removed any apps, only wiped cache after the update. On standby, it only takes 18 hours for it to drain, which used to be several days.
Another weird thing is that WiFi is terribly slow since the same update, but only on this device. (No numbers yet)
Right now my plan is to test all the mentioned related settings, as well as WiFi off, make screenshots after each nightly test, and finally do a complete wipe and perform the same tests with a minimum of apps, and then redo them again with my usual set of apps. It could still be one or more apps that misbehave on Oreo specifically I suppose, so if there's any indication for that, I will start eliminating apps one by one until I find the culprit.
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hello guys,
i flashed the radio to 12.62.60.27p_26.13.04.19_M after which i flashed update-LC-ICS-1.0.beta4-DesireHD-signed.zip by wiping completely. During standby, the drain was very less (about 1 mA , occasionally reaching 5 mA.) After 24 hours, the drain increased beyond 10 mA, sometimes even reaching 40mA or more in standby mode. It was only after i rebooted the device, the drain is somewhat acceptable now.
Is this normal or something is wrong? what could be the reason?
in the above cases, the phone was in standby mode, no calls, no data, only 2G. the only difference in the second case was additional applications like facebook, etc but no data, no sync.
btw, i just rebooted my phone and lost battery level from 3.735 to 3.691 , drop of 14% as shown in current widget.
any suggestions ?
I'm running cm7 and for me that's quite normal.
The drain per 5 minutes is between 1mA and 10mA while in 2G standby, screen off, data off.
The drain of course jumps up to 40mA to 200mA if the screen is on and i'm using the phone (wifi on, using google reader etc)
Getting 1mA per 5 minutes all the time sounds a bit unrealistic to me. Maybe in airplane mode and no screen on time.
I guess your problem could be the additional apps. Maybe an app is running wild?
And might i ask what you mean by "battery level"? Are you talking about the mV?
First of all, make sure you're are really wiping everything. Just to be sure, you may follow this steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
You can also take a look in your battery stats, the battery usage of mediaserver. In come ICS based ROMs, it drained battery a lot.
I tested LCs 1.0.v4 and also got poor battery performance, may be inherent to this ROM.
Dlog said:
I'm running cm7 and for me that's quite normal.
The drain per 5 minutes is between 1mA and 10mA while in 2G standby, screen off, data off.
The drain of course jumps up to 40mA to 200mA if the screen is on and i'm using the phone (wifi on, using google reader etc)
Getting 1mA per 5 minutes all the time sounds a bit unrealistic to me. Maybe in airplane mode and no screen on time.
I guess your problem could be the additional apps. Maybe an app is running wild?
And might i ask what you mean by "battery level"? Are you talking about the mV?
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hi, standby => night time when no screen is on...
it was about 1 mA most of the times and occasionally reaching 5mA
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First of all, make sure you're are really wiping everything. Just to be sure, you may follow this steps:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226016
You can also take a look in your battery stats, the battery usage of mediaserver. In come ICS based ROMs, it drained battery a lot.
I tested LCs 1.0.v4 and also got poor battery performance, may be inherent to this ROM.
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hi, yes, i have been following the link for wiping since the time i sarted flashing ROMS..
but what you are saying could be right.. the ROM itself could have battery issues...
I'm running LC ICS v1.2. I haven't seen any significant battery drain though I'm using an Inspire 4G. There's also an undervolting app on the second post in his thread. Undervolting has improved the battery performance slightly as well for me...
Hi!
I installed blackout ICS incredible in my DHD. Everything went well but I wanted to calibrate my battery.
So I downloaded Battery Calibration by NeMa from Google play. Before calibration my batterylife was about 12-24h depending on my use.
Now after the calibration my batterylife is about 5h!! And the same usage as I have always had, couple of calls, net surfing and maybe a little of Angry Birds and spotify.
Did I do something wrong or is my battery dead? My DHD is about 2 years old.
According to Google calibrating your battery (erasing your battery stats) doesn't actually do anything, so it shouldn't have made your battery life shorter. You could install BetterBatteryStats from a thread here on XDA to see if something else is eating your battery. Look at alarms and wakelocks.
Ok, thanks. I installed the BBS and I'll tell the alarms and wakelocks here if I don't find anything funny about them...
bananagranola is right.
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calibrating your battery basically tells your OS how much batter it has or doesn't have. IF you flash a rom at less than 100% battery, then the max amount of battery your OS thinks it has might be different from how much your phone actually has. Sometimes this can affect battery life.
The other thing is, did you calibrate at 100%, then unplug immediately? If not, that might trick your OS into burning your battery so quickly.
Otherwise, 12hrs to 24 hours is super amazing, I'm a semi heavy user, and I'll only be able to get 12-14 hours of semi serious use (8 hours standby, 2 hours on off usage, some of that at 100% brightness when i'm outside, and lots of music), end of that I have only 32% left. 24 is pretty amazing, I wouldn't be complaining :laugh:
Well when you simply reboot new stats are generated.
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Ok, so I have had today the BBS running on the background. I tried one thing in afternoon, I switched of Wifi. Wifi was off about 3h and when I came back to home I switched wifi back to on. I have still 70% battery!! and about 12h without charging.
BBS alarms:
android, wakeups:83 (Is this much?)
com.google.android.gsf, wakeups:56
com.android.settings, wakeups:13
and the rest of them is under 10
BBS Kernel Wakelock:
wlan_rx_wake: 14m18s
PowerManagerService: 10m57s
and rest is under 4mins
BBS Partial Wakelocks:
AudioOut_3: 3min16s
Twitter sync: 1m56s
BBS Other:
Deep Sleep is about 10.5h
Wifi On/running is about 6h
Is there something wrong or is there something that uses too much battery? Could the battery be "damaged" due it's about 2 years old now?
Sorry for stupid questions but I find it very annoying that sometimes battery life is 5h and sometimes it's way more than 12h with same usage.
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Ok, so I have had today the BBS running on the background. I tried one thing in afternoon, I switched of Wifi. Wifi was off about 3h and when I came back to home I switched wifi back to on. I have still 70% battery!! and about 12h without charging.
Is there something wrong or is there something that uses too much battery? Could the battery be "damaged" due it's about 2 years old now?
Sorry for stupid questions but I find it very annoying that sometimes battery life is 5h and sometimes it's way more than 12h with same usage.
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What you've got looks fine (which makes sense, since you had good battery life this time). Keep BBS installed. If/when battery life starts tanking, take a look at BBS and see if anything else pops up. If you've got more questions then feel free to post again here.
Although you might miss the customizations of the roms, aospX has great and I mean great, battery life.
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I left my phone over night, with 20% when I put it away, I woke up and it had 10% of battery left.
This happened few times already, I've also noticed huge battery drain on standby (I charged my phone up to 100% today at 10am, at 12:20 it's already down to 97% even though I didn't do anything with it)
Anyone knows what could be the case? I've also checked wakelocks with wakelock detector, but didn't find anything that seemed out of the ordinary.
In battery stats Android OS and "Phone inactive" take the 3 top positions.
I'm on OxygenOS 3.2.2 /w root
If you compare to an iphone, yes 10% loss overnight on standby is a lot. iphone are good on standby.
For an android phone, I would say that it's quite normal, I had phone (Nexus 4 I think) that lose more than 10% in 6 hours in standby.
Try to put in plane mode overnight, maybe you'll see a difference.
But 10% overnight, I don't call it a battery drain. And if you are moving, it can explain your 3% in 2 hours. In the battery stat, if you touch the graph, it will show other graph stat, the GSM signal bar show how much the signal change and how much battery the phone have to use to search for the signal (the less consistant the bar is, the more the battery is drained).
How was your reception overnight? If not green, that may be your issue
lol you think thats bad trying using a xperia z1 or z2 i think i got dodgy phones but they was pathetic for battery life even on stand by i was loosing 12-14% even with there so called stamina mode.
lesson i learned never buy a sony or samsung phone again granted samsung i like better than sony phones at least they have some form of audio quality heck even iphone sounded better than my xperia z1 and z2 lasted longer on battery than them aswell but not as long as my oneplus 3 is so happy with it
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I left my phone over night, with 20% when I put it away, I woke up and it had 10% of battery left.
This happened few times already, I've also noticed huge battery drain on standby (I charged my phone up to 100% today at 10am, at 12:20 it's already down to 97% even though I didn't do anything with it)
Anyone knows what could be the case? I've also checked wakelocks with wakelock detector, but didn't find anything that seemed out of the ordinary.
In battery stats Android OS and "Phone inactive" take the 3 top positions.
I'm on OxygenOS 3.2.2 /w root
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After update to 3.2.2 my also drain faster so, iam going back to 3.2.1 and it gets heat up very fast, I clean installed but still problem is there. So, rolling back.
Find the rogue app causing the drain.
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When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Samsung Galaxy S8+'s battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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When you sleep, does your phone sleep, or does it stay up all night and crunch 1s and 0s? Rate this thread to express how you deem the speed at which the Samsung Galaxy S8+'s battery drains under standby conditions. A higher rating indicates that when the phone is not in use, the battery drains minimally.
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Hello. I've recieved my mobile phone about week ago and there is one problem that annoys me. While the phone has lcd turned off, it drains a lot of energy. For example, yesterday I slept 7h and the battery decreased from 80 to 50%! I've tried almost everything, offline mode, aod off, battery saver mode etc. Any solutions?
Not that much
I think it's a lot ! I've seen many baterry usage screenshots and I was impressed. But mine is some kind of joke. I can't even use my mobile phone often at work because it's dead from 8 to 16, with all options turned off - aod, sync, gps etc. Also with baterry saving mode. Please guys, there must be a way to fix that.
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Hello. I've recieved my mobile phone about week ago and there is one problem that annoys me. While the phone has lcd turned off, it drains a lot of energy. For example, yesterday I slept 7h and the battery decreased from 80 to 50%! I've tried almost everything, offline mode, aod off, battery saver mode etc. Any solutions?
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Maybe try and disable bloatware using BK package disabler. It helped for me after disabling a few things
Unfortunately it did not work. I've tried everyrhing..
with only wifi and sync on, battery drains 3% from 11PM to 6AM
4G on
Wi-Fi on
Sync on
Over night From 12 to 8am is 2-3%
Not more.
there's a hundred settings for better battery life, putting apps to sleep, app background data, app data while data saving, notifications, permissions, etc etc etc....
Change network mode to 2G only. You will see standby consumption go from 1-1.5% per hr to .3-.5% per hour guaranteed. Obviously more drain if using always on display and/or other heavy features. Works perfect for me as my s8 is my secondary phone and don't need 4g.
ps. sot currently was like 6 mintues so didnt post screenshot of that, although im able to get around 5-7hrs sot with about 24hrs total use time. Also rom is renovate ice note 8 port ver .1 all stock settings otherwise. Also i got pretty much the same battery runtimes with stock or custom roms. Same usage with lte/3g/2g setting enabled got me nearly 5/6 hrs sot with around 16hrs total usage but really standby was affected by this setting change.
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4G on
Wi-Fi on
Sync on
Over night From 12 to 8am is 2-3%
Not more.
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how much would it be with AOD on ?
Snapdragon S8+ rooted.
Not touching the phone, I lose about 10% per hour. A thirty minute drive to work, with Pandora the only app in use, it runs through somewhere between 15-20%. I've tried everything, including telling its mother and using the kitchen sink, but nothing helps. One day we weren't busy at work, and I forgot my charger at home. By 11am I was at 9% (that's after leaving the house at 7:30am) and had to make a run to Walmart for a charger. On a normal day, I have to charge it 2-3 times. On an extreme use day, I have a constant tether.
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I lose 3% or so over 8 hours of sleep. Make sure you go through your battery management and options to end draining apps when left in the background.
Stock US unlocked S8+
I'm going to leave my S8+ (unlocked) history so that others can relate and solve as i did:
Bought mine with a German ROM (DBT), and as soon i as connected it to Wi-Fi it got updated to QH3 (latest).
Notice immediately a "Android System" drain that would take over almost 50% of phone sleep time. After some days decided to a "Reset / Factory default" but same story, drain ...
Solution ? Flash different region software (PHN - Netherlands - G955FXXU1AQI7 )
Now it sleeps like a baby and "Android System" remains very low.
Imm experiencing huge battery drainage since the new firmware update......no clue why
Oh and my phone is warm in idle and becomes quite hot when doing low intensity tasks such as loading this site
It's too bad
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Snapdragon S8+ rooted.
Not touching the phone, I lose about 10% per hour. A thirty minute drive to work, with Pandora the only app in use, it runs through somewhere between 15-20%. I've tried everything, including telling its mother and using the kitchen sink, but nothing helps. One day we weren't busy at work, and I forgot my charger at home. By 11am I was at 9% (that's after leaving the house at 7:30am) and had to make a run to Walmart for a charger. On a normal day, I have to charge it 2-3 times. On an extreme use day, I have a constant tether.
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If this true, I may give up to purchase one. I don't like to bring a power sink. And there is not always have a store that I can charge my device.
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If this true, I may give up to purchase one. I don't like to bring a power sink. And there is not always have a store that I can charge my device.
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That's been my, my son's, and several other people's (in the root threads) experience. There are a whole slew of people that have great battery life with root, but mine is abhorrent. I actually went back to stock, and have been astounded how much longer the battery lasts compared to having it rooted.
Use Tasker!
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with only wifi and sync on, battery drains 3% from 11PM to 6AM
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Program Tasker to switch off all internet access, auto sync and wifi and Bluetooth. Once switched on, the phone will regain all functions. In a 12 hour shift, with occasional use, I lose about 20% of battery power.
I like Galaxy S8
This is best phone I every wanted. Galaxy S8 is best device in its own. No one can beat it.
I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
Honestly, I haven't found much of a need for Greenify, aggressive doze, or wakelock blocking apps on 8.0 and above. It might be beneficial to Greenify battery hungry social media apps (especially those related to Facebook), but then you end up with Greenify running constantly in the background. Plus it requests usage permissions, enabling it as a device admin, etc.
Do you have Adaptive Battery enabled? There is a thread in the general section where a few users have reported that their battery life improved after disabling it.
I came here wondering the same. I had Greenify installed for a while but im not sure its really doing much anymore. I just took the lastest OTA update and im gonna roll without Greenify to see if there's a difference. Ill report back in a few days.
I know it's the wrong phone. But I have just bought a Pixel 3a and am introducing myself to its battery usage. I use Greenify on my Galaxy S7 running superman rom. I forgot to reinstall it last time I reinstalled things and I reckon it makes between 20% and 30% improvement.
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I haven't been able to root my last few phones so I wasn't able to really use Greenify recently (i mean I know I could use it in non-root mode, but I never cared for that and found that to be kind of buggy)...
With all the battery improvements supposedly implemented as Android has continued to evolve, do you think that Greenify still offers any benefits?
My standby drain is not so good -
According to EXKM My idle drain is somewhere around 3-4%/hour.
According to BBS, so far today out of 5 hours 30 min on battery, I have drained 5.2%/hour, down 28% in total, with almost 3 hours of deep sleep (54%), 1 hour 23 min of screen on (25%), and 1 hour 5 min awake (w Screen off) (20%). The 1 hour 5 min awake seems high to me - I did listen to 15 minutes of music so that would explain 15 minutes of it.
I checked out my partial wakelocks and the highest is ImsSenderRxr.
According to Battery Usage in settings #1 is Screen at 1 hour 23 minutes (that's good it is first), #2 is Google Play Services which has used about half the same amount of battery as the screen, #3 is Ambient Display which has used almost as much as play services.
I'm going to try adding Greenify and see if that does anything beneficial, but figured I would ask the community to see what your mileage has been like with Greenify more recently since it has been awhile since I've used it.
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My idle drain using EX is usually around 2%. What is your charging behavior... overnight and leave with 100% in the morning? I leave mine on the Pixel stand all night. If you are keeping it in your bedroom off-charger, use flip-to-shhh. You should have done that with BBS. If you didn't run BBS again overnight. 100% charged, hot off the charger and flip it upside down. This is just for a proper overnight battery drain test. Second, I would install Accubattery. It is NOT a battery drain app, but rather will eventually zero in on your remaining battery capacity compared with new. It uses several full charging sessions from say above 20% all the way to 100%. After a few full charging sessions it will give you solid information the condition of your battery. Just ruling the battery out here. If Accubattery confirms your battery capacity is well over 90% then you may want to do a fresh install. Sometimes that is the only thing that is going to return the good idle battery drain. Just my .02 cents. Take it for what it's worth. For reference, my battery capacity started at 106% new and is now at 94%. Cheers!