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Love hearing PA is back. I also value the monthly Google security updates for Nexus devices. Obviously PA is not going to release monthly builds, SO the question is has there been any consideration on how to apply the monthly updates to a Nexus device running PA going forward. Otherwise we'll likely be in a holding pattern for the next PA release that will always behind in baking in the security updates. I'd like to open a discussion on how PA users of Nexus devices (majority of supported devices?) will be able to apply monthly Google updates relatively quickly (or not). Thanks.
You can't apply the security updates unless they're compiled in the ROM. We aren't committing to any kind of schedule but we will try to update it obviously.
Actually that is a good point)the monthly updates), in my opinion.
I am very interested in them. I went back to official Nexus 5 rom to have access to these updates.
The whole Stagefright story made people aware and more conscious of the vulnerabilities Android.
I believe that the first custom ROM able to include in some way these updates, will have a big rise on the user base.
People that use custom rom are not the average user that just buys and forgets the smartphone. They are people that have a different perception about smartphone tech, and so are worried about performance, usability and security.
This being said, I think it was a great idea for the user "v12xke" to ask about it, and a great opportunity for PA to get ahead of others on this new start.
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almost two month ago Oneplus said they would stop the betas for a month. however it has almost been two month. does anyone got any news?
bigben14 said:
almost two month ago Oneplus said they would stop the betas for a month. however it has almost been two month. does anyone got any news?
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They announced it a month back and not two months back. Devs are also humans. Wait for some time and see for yourself.
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bonham1988 said:
They announced it a month back and not two months back. Devs are also humans. Wait for some time and see for yourself.
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sry i thought i had been two month.
i'm not urging them to do anything, i am just asking if there was any news on the next update.
but i know that nowadays it is the common response to say that we should leave them work as fast (or as slow) as they want, but that doesn't mean that i cannot ask.
if they didn't want me to urge them, then they shouldn't have made an eta ...
i'm not just saying that because your response was uncalled for, i am just saying that this new trend of "the devs are humans too" or "it will be done when it will be done" is stupid. why should the devs from a company who's job is to make software should get as much time as they need? i am working too an when i get a deadline, i have to respect it.
btw i'm not talking about the devs who are developing as a hobby here in the forums. i'm talking about the companies where developers are employees ....
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sry i thought i had been two month.
i'm not urging them to do anything, i am just asking if there was any news on the next update.
but i know that nowadays it is the common response to say that we should leave them work as fast (or as slow) as they want, but that doesn't mean that i cannot ask.
if they didn't want me to urge them, then they shouldn't have made an eta ...
i'm not just saying that because your response was uncalled for, i am just saying that this new trend of "the devs are humans too" or "it will be done when it will be done" is stupid. why should the devs from a company who's job is to make software should get as much time as they need? i am working too an when i get a deadline, i have to respect it.
btw i'm not talking about the devs who are developing as a hobby here in the forums. i'm talking about the companies where developers are employees ....
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You do realize they dont owe you anything. Its just been a month since they announced they'll halt for a month so atleast you can wait for some time and you should first check what and when they have announced something.
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bonham1988 said:
You do realize they dont owe you anything. Its just been a month since they announced they'll halt for a month so atleast you can wait for some time and you should first check what and when they have announced something.
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of course they do, if you don't believe that updates and keeping your promises are important for the name of the company you are mistaken : i bought the oneplus 1 and 3 and made all my friends and family switch to oneplus too. if tomorrow we all stop buying because of there service and people around the world feel the same way, then the company will go down.
now just to reiterate, at the beginning, i just wanted to know if there was a eta or news on the update. if you had just responded "no there is none" the subject would have been closed. but you had to bring your opinion and start an argument just so you could say your bit. now i'll wait for the update
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of course they do, if you don't believe that updates and keeping your promises are important for the name of the company you are mistaken : i bought the oneplus 1 and 3 and made all my friends and family switch to oneplus too. if tomorrow we all stop buying because of there service and people around the world feel the same way, then the company will go down.
now just to reiterate, at the beginning, i just wanted to know if there was a eta or news on the update. if you had just responded "no there is none" the subject would have been closed. but you had to bring your opinion and start an argument just so you could say your bit. now i'll wait for the update
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For beta software they dont owe you anything. They are still updating the regular version and people like you are always on your high horses not willing to wait or search for anything.
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bonham1988 said:
For beta software they dont owe you anything. They are still updating the regular version and people like you are always on your high horses not willing to wait or search for anything.
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I did search and it has been more than a month anyway. and if they put out a beta version with regular updates, then they owe me an update...
"people like me"?? How can you say that?! You dont know me... I am done with this discussion, it is ridiculus.
Bye
bigben14 said:
I did search and it has been more than a month anyway. and if they put out a beta version with regular updates, then they owe me an update...
"people like me"?? How can you say that?! You dont know me... I am done with this discussion, it is ridiculus.
Bye
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Here you go the official statement. https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...s-3-and-3t-will-be-paused-for-a-month.492623/
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People should understand, it's not owing, it's their job to work. They're not working for me, they're working for the payment they get, it's their job. And if an eta was given, then they should obey it. It's been said that they'll pause beta program for one month, so probably they'll release one/two weeks after this "one month". It's my opinion, but of course I wish they release it sooner.
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People should understand, it's not owing, it's their job to work. They're not working for me, they're working for the payment they get, it's their job. And if an eta was given, then they should obey it. It's been said that they'll pause beta program for one month, so probably they'll release one/two weeks after this "one month". It's my opinion, but of course I wish they release it sooner.
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totally agreed. It's different from the custom ROMs
News is that oneplus just released a 7.1.1 h2os, of course beta. So oxygen should be coming as well.
bonham1988 said:
For beta software they dont owe you anything. They are still updating the regular version and people like you are always on your high horses not willing to wait or search for anything.
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Damn 'bro'. Check your privilege.
OnePlus has a fairly good track record of being shaky on their word. I do feel like the 3 and 3T are going to soon lose support because of the announcement of a new phone slated for release a month and a half from now. Which is disappointing but with how soon they churned the 3T out to make more money, I'm not surprised.
I don't consider it "getting an update" unless I'm on the latest Security Patch. That's the only update I really care about, fixing bugs and adding features is cool and all, but lets be current at least. Here I am on Open 11 with a December 1st security patch and March (three months later) is coming up in just a few days. Even the Mainline Build that has a more recent build than the Community Build is on the Dec 1st patch. It's frankly pathetic.
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Damn 'bro'. Check your privilege.
OnePlus has a fairly good track record of being shaky on their word. I do feel like the 3 and 3T are going to soon lose support because of the announcement of a new phone slated for release a month and a half from now. Which is disappointing but with how soon they churned the 3T out to make more money, I'm not surprised.
I don't consider it "getting an update" unless I'm on the latest Security Patch. That's the only update I really care about, fixing bugs and adding features is cool and all, but lets be current at least. Here I am on Open 11 with a December 1st security patch and March (three months later) is coming up in just a few days. Even the Mainline Build that has a more recent build than the Community Build is on the Dec 1st patch. It's frankly pathetic.
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Buy a pixel if you want to be on latest patch. No company updates their phones as frequently as oneplus and still people are always whining and it still has the best dev support after nexus and pixels. And did they gaurantee you regular updates or security patches when theu sold you the phone? No they didnt so hang on and wait for a while before jumping the gun. And no company updates their older phones frequently when they have a flagship out in the market. Even google abandons nexus after a couple of years. So if regular security patches are your thing shell out that extra money for an expensive phone or flash a custom rom.
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OnePlus don't update their phones faster then anyone... My S7 edge is on Feb patch and gets patches every month. Blackberry always push the security patch every month without fail, It's not about spending money on an "Expensive phone" To get security.. Should come as standard no matter the price too many people are defending OP on updates they only support 3 phones right now OPT which is pretty much abandonded.. OP3/T pretty much identical updates shouldn't be a problem especially when many bugs are been reported and ignored..
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OnePlus don't update their phones faster then anyone... My S7 edge is on Feb patch and gets patches every month. Blackberry always push the security patch every month without fail, It's not about spending money on an "Expensive phone" To get security.. Should come as standard no matter the price too many people are defending OP on updates they only support 3 phones right now OPT which is pretty much abandonded.. OP3/T pretty much identical updates shouldn't be a problem especially when many bugs are been reported and ignored..
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Come back and talk about prompt updates on your s7 once s8 is out. Many things should come standard but they don't, thats life. You dont get everything. And yes blackberry sells their phones with security as a highlight so its natural they're updating it regularly.
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bonham1988 said:
Come back and talk about prompt updates on your s7 once s8 is out. Many things should come standard but they don't, thats life. You dont get everything. And yes blackberry sells their phones with security as a highlight so its natural they're updating it regularly.
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Since you put it like that what version of Android is One plus 2 using? What security patch?........ Security has been pushed by Google Since Stage fright discovery it's not an OEM Feature or selling point period.. BlackBerry is committed to releasing patches every month while OnePlus is not..
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Since you put it like that what version of Android is One plus 2 using? What security patch?........ Security has been pushed by Google Since Stage fright discovery it's not an OEM Feature or selling point period.. BlackBerry is committed to releasing patches every month while OnePlus is not..
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I do agree with the security patches but no oem cares about it atleast expect for its flagships and yes oneplus has been slow with the patches but whining about it constantly doesnt make any difference either. The only thing to push secutiry patches on time to every device is if maybe google took control of it all together and pushed them directly. But they arent bothered about it either.
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Why Motorola is not responding to the Moto G5 Plus Update?
Not even updated their update history page with Moto G5 Plus!
Poor quality mobiles Xiaomi is also giving MIUI 9.5 after just 3 or 4 months, what's up with Motorola
amarz1981 said:
Poor quality mobiles Xiaomi is also giving MIUI 9.5 after just 3 or 4 months, what's up with Motorola
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in america, we make sure phones stay within certain spec so the dont cause cancer and polute air traffic with noise. said certifications take time to tes, because it takes more then a month or two to finish. it impresses me how fast they do it, too, seeing as the cancer would take years of normal use to surface. sorry our government cares about us too slowly for you.
i don't think we moto g5+ users wilp get oreo update. We should stop thinking about this. and Should Think of buying new phones with better specs.
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Why Motorola is not responding to the Moto G5 Plus Update?
Not even updated their update history page with Moto G5 Plus!
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Moto Updated update history....now moto g5 plus receive june security patch...not oreoo
https://support.motorola.com/us/en/Solution/MS130095
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Ogre6473 said:
First, don't be rude. That will get you nowhere.
Second, Motorola doesn't have to update a damn thing. They can't be sued for not updating just because at one point they said they were considering it. They also never said when. They could keep cranking out phones and in two years claim that they're still looking into it.
Considering they can't even fix their headphone jack issue, I doubt we'll get Oreo.
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they can be sued, they never said they were considering the update, it is in the CONFIRMED list to be updated..
(just saying, i'm not in favor of any attack to the comñany, just clarifying things)
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First, don't be rude. That will get you nowhere.
Second, Motorola doesn't have to update a damn thing. They can't be sued for not updating just because at one point they said they were considering it. They also never said when. They could keep cranking out phones and in two years claim that they're still looking into it.
Considering they can't even fix their headphone jack issue, I doubt we'll get Oreo.
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You can be sued for false advertising
They can't be sued for not doing the update because it's not false advertising, nor are they under any contractual obligations
An advertisement is used to sell a product or service. Companies change their mind on updates and upgrades all the time. It's not illegal because the product wasn't sold with the promise of that upgrade.
Example: Every time there's a game developers conference, or CES or E3 there's promises of various kinds made by Sony and Microsoft, trailers for epic looking games etc. They even have working demos, yet many never see the light of day. How many times have they or the developers been sued for not releasing a planned product? Zero.
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They can't be sued for not doing the update because it's not false advertising, nor are they under any contractual obligations
An advertisement is used to sell a product or service. Companies change their mind on updates and upgrades all the time. It's not illegal because the product wasn't sold with the promise of that upgrade.
Example: Every time there's a game developers conference, or CES or E3 there's promises of various kinds made by Sony and Microsoft, trailers for epic looking games etc. They even have working demos, yet many never see the light of day. How many times have they or the developers been sued for not releasing a planned product? Zero.
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The product was sold with the promise of the software upgrade, as Motorola has stated multiple times that the g family has a policy for one major upgrade. Your example doesn't make much sense, game developers don't sell the game saying it will have a feature and then not include it. You obviously can't sue for them not releasing a planned product, unless you pre-order it and never receive a refund.
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True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
I strongly disagree with you, how does Xiaomi have enough resources to build MIUI 11? In fact Xiaomi has also released MIUI11 based Android 10 updates, if they have enough resources for them then they definitely work on Android One phones too.
Another thing: The reason Android One phones are supposed to get updates faster is manufacturers don't need to modify the OS much as compared to their own flavour (MIUI).
If they don't have enough resources they should not produce a Android One phone at first place. The MI A3 community is not being impatient, the update is quite late already, clearly there is no benefit of this phone having Android One program.
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MarcusMario0605 said:
True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
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No brother, users are NOT getting what they paid for. Faster updates was one of the main selling point of this Phone, clearly Xiaomi has no interest in their Android One devices, their priority has always been phones with MIUI. And yes, NOT everyone has enough technical knowledge to flash custom roms.
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I strongly disagree with you, how does Xiaomi have enough resources to build MIUI 11? In fact Xiaomi has also released MIUI11 based Android 10 updates, if they have enough resources for them then they definitely work on Android One phones too.
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
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Another thing: The reason Android One phones are supposed to get updates faster is manufacturers don't need to modify the OS much as compared to their own flavour (MIUI).
If they don't have enough resources they should not produce a Android One phone at first place. The MI A3 community is not being impatient, the update is quite late already, clearly there is no benefit of this phone having Android One program.
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And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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Well, I'm not sure about mid-range devices which have received Android 10 update, but If you go to Android One's website, their title says "Secure, up-to-date and easy to use", but unfortunately our devices have been outdated for quite a while now. Simple.
But yes, we can't do anything but to wait.
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Well, I'm not sure about mid-range devices which have received Android 10 update, but If you go to Android One's website, their title says "Secure, up-to-date and easy to use", but unfortunately our devices have been outdated for quite a while now. Simple.
But yes, we can't do anything but to wait.
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Outdated? We have patch from 5th December and we're in the middle of January. Sounds pretty up-to- date to me. Don't confuse the latest Android version with the latest security patch - Android One is primarily about monthly security updates. 2 Android version upgrades are a nice bonus, but with no guaranteed time frame when is it going to be received.
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zenkhas said:
No brother, users are NOT getting what they paid for. Faster updates was one of the main selling point of this Phone, clearly Xiaomi has no interest in their Android One devices, their priority has always been phones with MIUI. And yes, NOT everyone has enough technical knowledge to flash custom roms.
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Xiaomi never said it will release faster update, they just said Android One provides a simple, clean UI, providing 2 yrs of software update and 3 yrs of security update only.
If they had no interest on A series phone then why they joined Android One program and manufacturing a widely successful Mi A1 in the first place? They put priority to MIUI phones because MIUI has ads in it, Xiaomi makes money from them, whereas Android One, Xiaomi didn't make any money at all. Then why they keep making Android One phones? Just because users love clean Android, that is something you can't beat with.
Our community provides a large numbers of tutorials on how unlock bootloader/root/install custom ROM, so many of you shouldn't have any difficulties, in case if they have so, our community members will be nice enough to help them find/ solve their difficulties.
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Spolier: this is a rant about the community and their impatience.
Ever since I bought the device 3 months ago, I immediately started searching for ROMs and Telegram groups, etc. And all the time I was seeing people spamming threads, groups and even official Xiaomi Twitter page with questions about the update and such. Some also contacted the customer support and asked them about the update, although the customer support doesn't have any idea about it. And I saw a tweet from Mi India that the update will come mid February. Most replies to that were like: "**** you xiaomi, I will never buy your phone again, you disappointed your customers....".
First of all, it was never said on the Android One page nor the Mi A3 page that the updates will be immediate.
Secondly, building and polishing an Android update to maybe millions of devices costs money and time. I'm not saying that we will get a bug free update, but something probably close to. You can't expect from a company that releases new phones every month with minimal profit margins to push updates so fast. Some flagships still didn't get the update, but their price was 2 or 3 times bigger. You get what you pay for. Appreciate that you have a really nice phone for nothing basically.
Lastly, that behavior is cancerous. Being angry at a company for not fullfiling all of your expectations is your problem. Rather than spamming groups and whatnot, spend some time finding phones that suit you better or find devs that you can donate to. Send them a dollar or two so that they can pay their building servers and drink coffee while removing bugs with no logs.
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For your opinion must waiting on september.few days befor release android 11.
This is not android one my friend is meizu rom.
The most of miui took android 10 and xiaomi forget the vanila android.
This is the truth.
Is the last time buy xiaomi smartphone.never i will buy again this brand.
I have delete until now 3 brands.
Apple motorola xiaomi.
This phone has easy to unlock the boot loader and a bunch of custom ROMs. Go over to the other forums for other phones. It's crickets on the dev side.
Clean Android: good. If mi 9 had it I would jump on one. A month or two delay over the life of the phone is not a huge deal.
I have used 2 Android One phones recently. And they were soo cheap phones. Now I have the Mi A3 and this phone is more expensive than the others. (In Android One category)
And these phones updated very fast. Beta tests begin 1 week after the beta release for Pixel phones. So Android One program means an early update to me. If the update will be late why did I bought this phone?
But there is a point to mention. Another android one phone that I have purchased at the same time with A3, didn't receive Android 10 eighter. There could be a problem with the Google maybe?
i agree with you friend but please explain why A2 got update before A3?
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And in your first point there was a promise, refer to mannu jain tweet. What is the meaning of "One of the first few device" if 2 year old nokia phone got an update, and Samsung cheap phone also received it and motorola too. Then what is the meaning of that tweet, please explain it too sir.
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They surely don't have as much income from Android One opposed to MIUI, which is their brand. Of course they are not working as hard on it and the teams working on MIUI are definitely bigger. The number of phones that got Q is really handful compared to Xiaomi's lineup and those that did got an update, cost a lot more than this device. THAT is whole point.
And I repeat, no one said, not Google nor Xiaomi, that Android One updates are faster.
Name me a midrange phone that got Q? Galaxy A50... nope?
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Nokia 7.1, motorola one action
It’s just a typical way of thinking of those who had very few or even no knowledge about how programming and the software development process works…
Keep dumping pressure to devs only makes things worse.
It's like torque down the wheel nuts without even using a proper torque wrench; imagine if a guy was hurrying tightening down the nuts by bare hands. The wheels nuts can be loosened up and fall off the car! How safe would that be? Same applies for software development, if they rushed for an update, it can be buggy as hell, who knows!
So “Patience” is definitely the key, I had the same experience with A2 last year, where people just kept begging for Android 9 update. Xiaomi rushed, and pushes out buggy update like battery drain, inconsistent UI, and more severe, bootloop in its Jan update. Now, A2 got android 10 update doesn't mean it is better, it can have bugs like UI, bluetooth, slow charging bugs. It's a last major software update for A2, Xiaomi can rush the update, can't they? I know in Xiaomi website it said "Android one provides up-to-date software experience", but there's the fact that nothing is absolute. The update can be delayed for whatever reason.
The A3 is a cheap, budget, yet mid-range phone and people still want to interpret it as a “flagship” phone. Although this is an Android One phone, Xiaomi still need to fix bugs and add their own custom features. That would generally take some times for the completion, that doesn’t even count for fixing various bugs. Even though Motorola, Nokia phones get Android 10, it’s just depends on certain devs. They can be more productive than us.
Even more surprising, when Xiaomi india replied a tweet at twitter saying that android 10 will arrive on mid-Feb. People are screwed... they f**k Xiaomi and said that they won’t buy their phone again. Well, I feel quite miserable on why are people so impatient and complaining so much, seriously.
That is all I want to say, and I don’t want to dump any more time in this weird tragedy. If you disagree with me, feel free to blame, swear, or report to me. But the Fact that 'the arrival of Android 10 has no exact date' is going to Never change! So please, stop complaining about the update.
Thanks Captain!
m4RinKo2 said:
Spolier: this is a rant about the community and their impatience.
Ever since I bought the device 3 months ago, I immediately started searching for ROMs and Telegram groups, etc. And all the time I was seeing people spamming threads, groups and even official Xiaomi Twitter page with questions about the update and such. Some also contacted the customer support and asked them about the update, although the customer support doesn't have any idea about it. And I saw a tweet from Mi India that the update will come mid February. Most replies to that were like: "**** you xiaomi, I will never buy your phone again, you disappointed your customers....".
First of all, it was never said on the page that the updates will be immediate.
Secondly, building and polishing an Android update to maybe millions of devices costs money and time. I'm not saying that we will get a bug free update, but something probably close to. You can't expect from a company that releases new phones every month with minimal profit margins to push updates so fast. Some flagships still didn't get the update, but their price was 2 or 3 times bigger. You get what you pay for. Appreciate that you have a really nice phone for nothing basically.
Lastly, that behavior is cancerous. Being angry at a company for not fullfiling all of your expectations is your problem. Rather than spamming groups and whatnot, spend some time finding phones that suit you better or find devs that you can donate to. Send them a dollar or two so that they can pay their building servers and drink coffee while removing bugs with no logs.
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Thank you for this Post! got already tired of people complaining about a good, cheap phone whose dev's are taking care of a bug free release first instead of rushing things. The A3 is working purrrfeect for what you pay <3
From my point of view thinking of that mi A3 has some type of priority is as foolish as of believing that this extra time (Chinese New year) will mean a more polished and refined rom.
I think someone should learn what Android One means before starting to make a thread.
MarcusMario0605 said:
Xiaomi never said it will release faster update, they just said Android One provides a simple, clean UI, providing 2 yrs of software update and 3 yrs of security update only.
If they had no interest on A series phone then why they joined Android One program and manufacturing a widely successful Mi A1 in the first place? They put priority to MIUI phones because MIUI has ads in it, Xiaomi makes money from them, whereas Android One, Xiaomi didn't make any money at all. Then why they keep making Android One phones? Just because users love clean Android, that is something you can't beat with.
Our community provides a large numbers of tutorials on how unlock bootloader/root/install custom ROM, so many of you shouldn't have any difficulties, in case if they have so, our community members will be nice enough to help them find/ solve their difficulties.
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Thats completely untrue. Xiaomi have made alluded to faster android upgrades for their Android One phones. And sometimes even made direct statements on that issue - one statement was from Manu (India's VP) saying "Mi A3 is going to be one of the first few devices to get Android Q".
After all the hype about faster updates from their fanbase, now you've amazingly said Xiaomi never promised anything at all! How very Trumpian of you.
And now you've made some more incredible statements like Xiaomi is only producing Android one phones because they have to, not because they actually want to, and Xiaomi don't make any money at all on these phones. No facts, no figures, just an outright assertion.
Customs roms are nice but it has no bearing on this issue. These roms are generally not vetted, tested, checked to see if they are stable and free from malware.
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True, it's just sad that everyone keep begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, seriously.
They should have appreciated on what xiaomi offers with this phone at this kind of price like good display, build quality and superior cameras! You are getting what you payed for.
I mean... if they, or you, really love Android 10 flavouring their A3, just grab a big selection of Android 10 custom ROM from our community, its way simpler than keep doing that. I know they may have bugs but they like Android 10 because of these... Dark mode, gesture navigation, privacy control, etc.
Now if they, or you decide to keep on begging xiaomi for Android 10 update, by all means go ahead! But this won't speed up their (xiaomi dev) development. Simple common sense, isn't it?
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Bro, would like to disagree with you here. If in the end we have to choose a custom rom, then why would I buy an Android One device. I could simply buy a MiUI based Xiaomi device and simply install custom rom (Probably that's what the Xiaomi wants). The other reason people prefer Android One device is to get rid of complications a custom rom develop.
Secondly, there's no hiding away from the fact that update is delayed for whatever reason may it be. Both the parties are at fault, I agree lots of people are baby shouting about Android 10 but the fact is and will be is that the update has been delayed. And for this no one is blaming developers. I always respect the developers. They work behind the scenes without getting applaused. But the anger of people is over Xiaomi not the developers. The fact is people showing here as if they care for developrs are actually diverting the company's fault to developrs. Xiaomi aren't focusing on Android One with majority of developers assigned to MiUI. And this device is not the one which has been sold less. This is one of the best selling phones. It offering a lot at this price.
Manu (India's VP) saying "Mi A3 is going to be one of the first few devices to get Android Q".
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Typical non-committal language - just consider how many vendors and devices are out there - if the Mi A3 gets Android 10 in March 2020, it might very well be part of the "first few devices". In short, there is no reason to assume Mr. Manu wasn't being truthful at the time of tweeting this (back in Aug 2019). That is what he was led to believe then.
Xiaomi should be a bit more open about the roadmap/update progress, to ease everyone's mind.
OnePlus has heard your cries. The Oxygen OS 12 update for the OnePlus 9 series has been pulled.
By Jimmy Westenberg
We are aware of the issues caused by the OxygenOS 12 update and our software team is fixing them. We will suspend this software update and roll out a new iteration as soon as possible.
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OnePlus has pulled its build of Oxygen OS 12, based on Android 12, for the OnePlus 9 and 9 Pro.
Shortly after the update rolled out, users all around the web complained of bugs and missing features.
The company says it’ll issue a new update “ASAP,” though no other timeframe was given.
Apps crashing, slow animations, and lots of missing features: It doesn’t sound pleasant to deal with these things on your smartphone, yet OnePlus 9 series users have been experiencing all three since OnePlus rolled out the stable build of Oxygen OS 12 earlier this week.
We reported on the issues that OnePlus 9 users around the internet have been experiencing, and it looks like OnePlus has heard our collective cries. The company has officially pulled the stable Oxygen OS 12 update from the OnePlus 9 series. In a statement to Android Police, the company said:
We are aware of the issues caused by the OxygenOS 12 update and our software team is fixing them. We will suspend this software update and roll out a new iteration as soon as possible.
The statement above is all we have from OnePlus on the subject, so we’re not sure when the company plans to issue a new, more stable build of Oxygen OS 12. We will certainly keep you updated as we learn more.
Learn more: Hands-on with Oxygen OS 12
Since the update rolled out on December 6, users on Twitter, Reddit, and official OnePlus forums have complained of the new software’s issues. Some users complained of a black screen showing for a few seconds after unlocking the phone, while another user claimed the task manager was not closing all apps as it should.
And those are just the functional issues with the software. OnePlus’ build of Oxygen OS 12, which is based on Android 12, is missing many features that were present in older builds of Oxygen OS. Many users complain that the Google Feed can no longer be turned off, which has struck a particularly loud chord throughout the OnePlus community.
If the Oxygen OS 12 update is available for your phone, we suggest holding off on updating your device until we hear more from OnePlus.
OnePlus pulls bug-ridden Oxygen OS 12 update for the OnePlus 9
After issuing a bug-filled Oxygen OS 12 update to OnePlus 9 users, the company has pulled the update. It says it'll issue a new update "ASAP."
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Do you mean our "cries" are not legitimate? They should burn in the deep of the hell for relesing that thing as stable, considering money I spent to buy this phone, that really should not happen.
I also don't expect too much from them, I'm not sure what are they aware or not. Probably I will try after 5 months and still will see misplaced icon and invalid font sizes when I set high dpi + strange colors of chat messages in Google Messaging app
More like our immediate concerns and OnePlus needs to get it right before releasing!
Oneplus should employ testers and do not treat customers as testers. They released beta called stable, collected bug reports, then beta is pulled. Everybody happy? Not really, I wasted one day to downgrade and setup my phone from scratch
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