Hello coming from the Z5, i had to say that's the worst mobile i had in the z series line up. May be i got a faulty handset? poor battery life and it was a mini heater. So, how is the z5 premium in these two aspects of battery life & temperature?
Cheers
thalada said:
Hello coming from the Z5, i had to say that's the worst mobile i had in the z series line up. May be i got a faulty handset? poor battery life and it was a mini heater. So, how is the z5 premium in these two aspects of battery life & temperature?
Cheers
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I came to z5p from z2 (looks like you have owned it too) Average battery life of my z5p is almost same,but in heavy tasks (games,intensive internet surfing) z5p discharging faster than z2. And when I read books or listen the music z5p works noticeably longer than z2. Its about 30% in my experience. Heating is lower than z2 too.
By the way in FW 32.2.A.0.224 sony promised to optimize energy consumption and put back stamina mode.
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I came to z5p from z2 (looks like you have owned it too) Average battery life of my z5p is almost same,but in heavy tasks (games,intensive internet surfing) z5p discharging faster than z2. And when I read books or listen the music z5p works noticeably longer than z2. Its about 30% in my experience. Heating is lower than z2 too.
By the way in FW 32.2.A.0.224 sony promised to optimize energy consumption and put back stamina mode.
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Z2 & Z3 were the best in terms of battery stand by, so i am not comparing with that :highfive:
So, heating is less which is a great thing.
Also i heard after the latest updates, almost everything is displayed in 4k, is it true?
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Also i heard after the latest updates, almost everything is displayed in 4k, is it true?
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I dont know,lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Is any way how can I check it? I doubt that this can be seen with the naked eye in a 5.5" display
thalada said:
Z2 & Z3 were the best in terms of battery stand by, so i am not comparing with that :highfive:
So, heating is less which is a great thing.
Also i heard after the latest updates, almost everything is displayed in 4k, is it true?
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No, mostly 1080p. The phone would lag doing simple tasks, hell, it even lags when I emulate 4k from ADB.
Z5P does a good job managing heat. I think the dual heat sinks and thermal paste are doing their job
And regarding 4k, all 4k pixels are firing but resolution may not be 4k lol if that makes sense. 4k resolution becomes available in album, movies, and possibly Mozilla Firefox (I couldn't tell by looking at it but 4k option is available on yt and takes forever to buffer so I'm assuming it is?)
Well, i went ahead and made the purchase. Chrome looks beautiful and the mobile seems to be better in terms of battery life & heat management compared to the z5.
Thank you guys.
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Hi all
I am currently owning Galaxy s4 and I wish to upgrade the phone.
Could you please suggest me whish phone I should buy. Right now my options are z1 compact, z2 and MI 4.
Which is best.
My Preferences are User interface, Movie playback, gaming performance and camera
Thanks.
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I was in a similar situation like you.
My previous phone was Galaxy S4 and i hated the phone.
Like you i was in dilemma of Z1 Compact or Z2.
With Z2 and S4 i had to take the phone out of my pockets every time i wanted to sit.
The battery is awful on 1080p and 5''.
Altho movies are more enjoyable on a 5'' screen.
I decided to go for Z1C.
Best phone ever!
I would choose Z2, I had Z1c and it was too small for me
You should buy Z2 if you don't like small phones, or Z1c vice versa
Thanks guys.
In my opinion, sometimes the size does matter but sometimes doesn't .
But what about the performance and battery?
Does the xperia z1 compact and z2 has same glass panel in the back ?
Performance: Basically same.
Xperia Z2: 3GB RAM, Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 Quad core 2300 MHz Krait 400
Xperia Z1C: 2GB RAM, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad core 2200 MHz Krait 400
Battery: Advantage for Z2
Z2: 3200 mAh Better Call, standby and music playback time since they don't use screen.
Z1C: 2300 mAh Battery full charge is quicker.
For Z1C: Some days i get 3 days standby without charging other times i get 6~7 hours SOT in 1 day and when i need mobile data alot i get less than 5 hours SOT.
Backside of phone:
Z2: Glass
Z1C: Plastic - can order glass panel for ~ 10 bucks.
You cant really compare these phones.
For battery and performance I can just say, the Z1c is awesome. It has so much power that you will barely get it to struggle like ever. And battery lasts for me about 2 1/2 days with normal use.
The question for you is: which SIZE.
The Z1c is - like the name suggests - a compact phone. Easy to hold, you can perfectly use it with one hand and you can put it in your pocket without feeling like you carry a tablet beside your balls.
Now the Z2 is not compact. It's big. End of story. Of course it's also a good phone and has a good performance.
If you want to use your phone a lot for gaming or videos (where a big display matters) you might go with the Z2. If you use it as a phone only with a little bit of web or a lot of music, you dont need such a big device. At least thats how I see it.
For me the compact size matters. If I need a bigger screen I use my tablet. If i'm on the go I need a small phone which never lets me down and which I can use with one hand -> Z1c.
But thats just my preferences
Thanks again everyone. Useful review.
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If so, could you give me advice, which phone is better?
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If so, could you give me advice, which phone is better?
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Xperia Z3
Although the 4K Screen makes the LG G3 look awesome sometimes, if your the type of person that only uses their phone to check Facebook, Email, Web Surfing etc etc, the Xperia Z3 kills the LG G3 in terms of battery life
Honestly when you compare the specs the only difference is the screen size and the battery between the G3 and the Xperia Z3, everything hardware wise is the same. But taking that into consideration the 4K screen chews up so much battery and ram which results in lag and random crashes on stock lollipop.
Sure some people might say using a AOSP rom or turning down the DPI on the G3 yields better battery life but in my opinion i dont like to sacrifice key features of the G3 just for a ROM that gives better battery life but takes out the key features of the LG UI
For me since i always get good condition second hand phones, money isnt a issue for me. But if it is for you i would suggest the G3
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Sony-Xperia-Z3,LG-G3/phones/8764,8347
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Xperia Z3
Although the 4K Screen makes the LG G3 look awesome sometimes, if your the type of person that only uses their phone to check Facebook, Email, Web Surfing etc etc, the Xperia Z3 kills the LG G3 in terms of battery life
Honestly when you compare the specs the only difference is the screen size and the battery between the G3 and the Xperia Z3, everything hardware wise is the same. But taking that into consideration the 4K screen chews up so much battery and ram which results in lag and random crashes on stock lollipop.
Sure some people might say using a AOSP rom or turning down the DPI on the G3 yields better battery life but in my opinion i dont like to sacrifice key features of the G3 just for a ROM that gives better battery life but takes out the key features of the LG UI
For me since i always get good condition second hand phones, money isnt a issue for me. But if it is for you i would suggest the G3
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Sony-Xperia-Z3,LG-G3/phones/8764,8347
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Well said bro... Thank you
But wait, you said the Z3 first and at the end you suggested the G3? I'm confused
He's recommending a Z3, unless price is an issue, in which case, a G3 will be fine and I agree.
In my opinion, the higher resolution isn't something I'd trade for battery life.
Although, should mention the G3 doesn't have a 4k screen.
Hey guys, I've just sold my OnePlus One due to cr*p support and updates (I was getting like 7h SOT when it was running KK, after lollipop update I used to get 4h sot) and now I'm looking for a new device. I have ~400€ budged and I found M8 and Z3 at almost the same price.
Which is better? Which do you prefer and why? I need users opinion in their daily usage, I know the specs of both phone and I know that HTC has a crappy camera and lower battery.
I think I'll send the phone back to HTC/Sony to change the battery every year and I need the phone to last for about 2 years.
My usage:
-I mainly use the front camera, if I need to take serious photos I bring my reflex with me
-Social
-Email.. email email email
-Music (spotify with headphones and rarely through the speakers)
-I want the gold/rame colour (not necessary but preferred)
-Sometimes heavy gaming (me and my mates play Real Racing 3 online)
-I need the battery to last the whole day (I can't freeze app like whatsapp and email, I need them also in energy save mode)
Can you help me, please? If you know other devices in my budged range please name them (no iphone, screen so small and iphone 6 is out of range and I wouldn't be able to deny facebook to access my position. and no windows phone, had htc 8s for about 1 week and the instantly sold... too close system)
I forgot: I don't really need custom roms... Just xposed and root (for eq.).
PPS: is Htc m8s good as m8? It has camera and battery upgraded.
I had a xperia Z1 (Pretty the same as Z2 (better screen) and Z3 (better battery life)) for a year and a half, it was a very good handset but deffective, it had touchscreen issues, I've been forced to replace the flaps and the battery in order to keep running it out. On the bright side I loved the camera and the battery life wich was good until it fail, So i don't trust in Sony anymore.
I moved on and now I own a M8 and it's awesome, great display, great spekers (I wasn't used to listen music trough them but belive me if you get one you will love it), the battery life is good; even with the short mAh It runs out till I get home, maybe the camera is not as good (or near) as the xperia but it's not a deal breaker.
And if you compare it with the Z3+ or M9 i'ts not far from them since S810 is a fail. Even Z3 and M8 had proven to be better overall with the S801
I don't use my phone for playing games so i can't help you with that point
Both of them have energy saving mode (sony have stamina and ultra stamina but the last one won't let you use whatsapp or mail)
Both of them can get root and xposed
If i were you i would go for the HTC, I bet you'll not dissapointed
Thank you. I had the HTC m7 and the only issue I had was the battery life.
Purchasing M9 or z3+ is not worth due to overheating issue and because they are out of my budget. I hate the xperia ui.... Wtf have they done? If I go with xperia custom theme and launcher are a must.
Bump! please
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Bump! please
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Z3 for:
-battery life
-IP68
-3GB of RAM
-camera
M8 for:
-speakers
-build quality
-community support
I am for M8 because:
Z3 has known thermal issues. Mine had some building failures and IMHO it seems really fragile with that glass and thin aluminium. Unlocking bootloader makes you lose DRM related functionalities. LCD is brighter on Z3 but contrast is higher on M8.
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Tagilso said:
Z3 for:
-battery life
-IP68
-3GB of RAM
-camera
M8 for:
-speakers
-build quality
-community support
I am for M8 because:
Z3 has known thermal issues. Mine had some building failures and IMHO it seems really fragile with that glass and thin aluminium. Unlocking bootloader makes you lose DRM related functionalities. LCD is brighter on Z3 but contrast is higher on M8.
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Please can you tell me your average SOT and how does m8 handle games?
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Please can you tell me your average SOT and how does m8 handle games?
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Never play games.
My SOT is 4h 30m on average. Can easily reach night without charge.
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Tagilso said:
Never play games.
My SOT is 4h 30m on average. Can easily reach night without charge.
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4h 30m SOT without games is not much for me. I use to play in the morning. So z3 will be a good choice I think...
I bought my z5 premium 4 days ago ! and the battery seems really **bleep** ! the full charge drains in like 3 hours onscreen time ! the screen takes too much of the battery usage 40% ! on my last z2 it took like 3% ! what happened ! does sony lied about the battery life time ! i really paid alot in this phone and i dont see any advantage in battery ! i'm a very heavy user and i though that this phone will satisfy my needs( i tried the stamina mode but it doesn't work for me because i want to recieve notifcations from social apps while screen is off ) i need a fast solution or i will return the phone back ..
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I bought my z5 premium 4 days ago ! and the battery seems really **bleep** ! the full charge drains in like 3 hours onscreen time ! the screen takes too much of the battery usage 40% ! on my last z2 it took like 3% ! what happened ! does sony lied about the battery life time ! i really paid alot in this phone and i dont see any advantage in battery ! i'm a very heavy user and i though that this phone will satisfy my needs( i tried the stamina mode but it doesn't work for me because i want to recieve notifcations from social apps while screen is off ) i need a fast solution or i will return the phone back ..
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This was yesterday
Full 100% brightness, with adaptive of course
Location services on high accuracy
WiFi on all the time
Mediocre data reception (2 bars mostly)
Heavy browsing.
I'd say it's pretty good considering the battery hogging 4k screen and SD810
My screen was 73% on battery stats
I am happy with SOT and in general the battery performance (note I used stamina few times only just for the test). It is much more better compared with my sg note 4 exynos. (But camera is not )
my first day with my z5 premium and big disapointed about the battery ... heavily dropped down since hard using ... will be testing stamina mode ...
I have to say the battery life on my Z5P is awful! I'm lucky to get half a day and I used to get at least a full day with the same usage on my Z2 and Z3.
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I have to say the battery life on my Z5P is awful! I'm lucky to get half a day and I used to get at least a full day with the same usage on my Z2 and Z3.
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Never expect the same battery life you had on Z2 and Z3. Z5P has that 4k screen and the power sucking black hole, aka Snapdragon 810
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Never expect the same battery life you had on Z2 and Z3. Z5P has that 4k screen and the power sucking black hole, aka Snapdragon 810
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Well yes I will expect the same battery life if not more as that's what Sony are advertising! A two day battery life, same as previous models.
The screen is only 1080p unless you're watching video.
Half a day is NOT what I would consider satisfactory.
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Well yes I will expect the same battery life if not more as that's what Sony are advertising! A two day battery life, same as previous models.
The screen is only 1080p unless you're watching video.
Half a day is NOT what I would consider satisfactory.
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I can agree on the part about 2 days battery life like advertised, with that lovely "*" at the end of the claim.
The screen however, even though it runs mostly at 1080p the pixel count is 4 times higher than a genuine 1080p panel. Those extra pixels will still need power to work, no matter the resolution.
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Actually i have one plus 3 with me now want to buy honor 8 pro but i Heard about it's heating issue ..can any one of you tell me how bad it heats and also should i go for it ..?? can the heating b solved by any mean any one explain me clearly
shunil.scorpio01 said:
Actually i have one plus 3 with me now want to buy honor 8 pro but i Heard about it's heating issue ..can any one of you tell me how bad it heats and also should i go for it ..?? can the heating b solved by any mean any one explain me clearly
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After the recent update i could say i was able to feel some heat only while playing games or some heavy usage.
I dont see any specific abnormal heating issues.
i'd like to say heating issue is not an issue on this phone. but very sure ppl will jump in and say they have this and it's bad, etc...
for me. i play games like Mobile Legends and Arena of Valor. no issues. no heat.
but i know that some actually complain of some heat after recording 4k video on the phone for a long time.
i've never had to record in 4K. never feel the need to. most devices can't play 4k anyway. my tv is only 1080 and my phone's only 2K (the honor 8 Pro)?!? but ya, ppl who do video editing might do that. then again, if they are into video editing, i doubt they'd be using a smartphone as recording device... so, in real world practical sense... i think it's a good phone. no heat issue.
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i'd like to say heating issue is not an issue on this phone. but very sure ppl will jump in and say they have this and it's bad, etc...
for me. i play games like Mobile Legends and Arena of Valor. no issues. no heat.
but i know that some actually complain of some heat after recording 4k video on the phone for a long time.
i've never had to record in 4K. never feel the need to. most devices can't play 4k anyway. my tv is only 1080 and my phone's only 2K (the honor 8 Pro)?!? but ya, ppl who do video editing might do that. then again, if they are into video editing, i doubt they'd be using a smartphone as recording device... so, in real world practical sense... i think it's a good phone. no heat issue.
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Hey ..m a heavy user ..i m totally confused between 1+5 and honor ... every one says its heating so ...does it heat while playing games and using camera only ..or in daily usage also ....!!!
shunil.scorpio01 said:
Hey ..m a heavy user ..i m totally confused between 1+5 and honor ... every one says its heating so ...does it heat while playing games and using camera only ..or in daily usage also ....!!!
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i'm using the honor 8 Pro and i'd lie if i say there is no heat. there is when i use 4G and play games like MOBA. but usually, it's very, very little and at times it does get more only when the area has got poor reception.
is this phone "warmer" than other phones? no. if anything, i think it stays cooler than some phones I have used, including Samsung Note 2 and Note 7 or even the OnePlus One.
it does not get terribly warm or anything like that. i don't use 4K recording. so, not sure how warm the phone gets.
hope that answers your Q.
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i'm using the honor 8 Pro and i'd lie if i say there is no heat. there is when i use 4G and play games like MOBA. but usually, it's very, very little and at times it does get more only when the area has got poor reception.
is this phone "warmer" than other phones? no. if anything, i think it stays cooler than some phones I have used, including Samsung Note 2 and Note 7 or even the OnePlus One.
it does not get terribly warm or anything like that. i don't use 4K recording. so, not sure how warm the phone gets.
hope that answers your Q.
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That means camera has heating issue except camera will it heat while using ..?? I mean browsing jumping over apps ..??
shunil.scorpio01 said:
That means camera has heating issue except camera will it heat while using ..?? I mean browsing jumping over apps ..??
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It will not heat in regular browsing and gaming.
Extended usage of camera beyond 15 or 20 minutes can make it warm and not heat.
I played real racing 3 for about half an hour and it didn't heat up at all.
The thing is people don't know the difference between heat and warm.
A device will get warm of extended usage and under extensive load. More so, if it's made of metal.
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It will not heat in regular browsing and gaming.
Extended usage of camera beyond 15 or 20 minutes can make it warm and not heat.
I played real racing 3 for about half an hour and it didn't heat up at all.
The thing is people don't know the difference between heat and warm.
A device will get warm of extended usage and under extensive load. More so, if it's made of metal.
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Seen that many times. People will say it's heating though it is just lukewarm.
I too had a oneplus 3. I did tons of review hunting and finally settled for Honor 8 pro. Been a month now almost, i can say i m impressed with the device. Good luck to u!!
If you have One Plus 3. You SHOULD'NT waste your money on Honor 8 Pro.
Trust me! There is ZERO difference in performance in day to day usage.
may be 10% better in Benchmarks.
Games actually perform better in OPO3 due do having an Adreno gpu and HD resolution.
Camera benefits from having more details due to 16 MP.
Battery full charge in 40 odd minutes compared to 2 hours plus on Honor 8 Pro.
H265 10 BIT HARDWARE DECODING in SD 820 compared to NADA in Kirin 960 (In short, h265 10 bit videos don't play).
So unless you're desperate for a card slot or IR blaster, there's little to NO reason for you to get Honor 8 Pro.
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If you have One Plus 3. You SHOULD'NT waste your money on Honor 8 Pro.
Trust me! There is ZERO difference in performance in day to day usage.
may be 10% better in Benchmarks.
Games actually perform better in OPO3 due do having an Adreno gpu and HD resolution.
Camera benefits from having more details due to 16 MP.
Battery full charge in 40 odd minutes compared to 2 hours plus on Honor 8 Pro.
H265 10 BIT HARDWARE DECODING in SD 820 compared to NADA in Kirin 960 (In short, h265 10 bit videos don't play).
So unless you're desperate for a card slot or IR blaster, there's little to NO reason for you to get Honor 8 Pro.
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- Kirin 960 performs better than sd820 on op3 and some benchmarks shows it performs about the same as sd835.
- About the gpu yes, adreno a bit better. But dont worry, because later on oreo update u can change res to 1080p or 720p, so gaming performance will improve.
- Nicest design for honor 8 pro.
- Camera a lot better in honor 8 pro, bokeh effects, more details even its just 12mp compare to 16mp op3. Camera on op3 are noisy, check the comparison on website.
- Nice 2k screen on honor 8 pro.
- Battery a lot better than op3.
So apart from sd card slot and ir blaster, theres a lot things better in honor 8 pro.
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- Kirin 960 performs better than sd820 on op3 and some benchmarks shows it performs about the same as sd835.
- About the gpu yes, adreno a bit better. But dont worry, because later on oreo update u can change res to 1080p or 720p, so gaming performance will improve.
- Nicest design for honor 8 pro.
- Camera a lot better in honor 8 pro, bokeh effects, more details even its just 12mp compare to 16mp op3. Camera on op3 are noisy, check the comparison on website.
- Nice 2k screen on honor 8 pro.
- Battery a lot better than op3.
So apart from sd card slot and ir blaster, theres a lot things better in honor 8 pro.
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I have used both the devices and have them in front of me. That's why. Real world usage. No differnece. Photo details more in Oneplus ३. Charging way faster. Plays more media formats via hardware acceleration. No point.
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I have used both the devices and have them in front of me. That's why. Real world usage. No differnece. Photo details more in Oneplus ३. Charging way faster. Plays more media formats via hardware acceleration. No point.
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My young brother owns op3. Honor 8 pro camera wins all the way. The overall quality, dynamic range, contrast, sharpening, white balance, color accurate, low noise picture all wins on honor 8 pro side. Low lights picture also better than op3. Compare it with op3, pixel peeping shows op3 has some grainier and noisy photo, even my brother agrees with it. Oh did u try the wide aperture mode? Results are really nice. About the media format, u can always install mx player from play store. Sure battery charging a bit slow because of the big 4000mah capacity, but I dont mind that as it last longer in moderate usage.
Well everyone has their own opinion anyway, so heres mine. Chill.
As for me, yes, dont buy the honor 8 pro yet because honor v10 is coming out next month. Better wait for it, a lot improvement than honor 8 pro with the same price tag.
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My young brother owns op3. Honor 8 pro camera wins all the way. The overall quality, dynamic range, contrast, sharpening, white balance, color accurate, low noise picture all wins on honor 8 pro side. Low lights picture also better than op3. Compare it with op3, pixel peeping shows op3 has some grainier and noisy photo, even my brother agrees with it. Oh did u try the wide aperture mode? Results are really nice. About the media format, u can always install mx player from play store. Sure battery charging a bit slow because of the big 4000mah capacity, but I dont mind that as it last longer in moderate usage.
Well everyone has their own opinion anyway, so heres mine. Chill.
As for me, yes, dont buy the honor 8 pro yet because honor v10 is coming out next month. Better wait for it, a lot improvement than honor 8 pro with the same price tag.
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My young brother owns op3.
I only specifically mentioned about details in pictures due to having more mega pixel. No cure for that.
And I am talking about MX player only. Please try playing H265 10 bit file on it with a Honor 8 Pro.
Then do the same with Oneplus 3. You'll be surprised! One of them WONT play. One of them will play silky smooth.
Also see in settings/decoder which of the formats are hardware accelerated in both.
Kirin 960 might be raw power (Only CPU). But Snapdragon is like super refined and overall well rounded.
Performance wise no real world difference. It would be total waste to upgrade.
I am not giving my opinion but simply stating the facts as I've experienced; to help the OP make wise decision.