Hi all
I am currently owning Galaxy s4 and I wish to upgrade the phone.
Could you please suggest me whish phone I should buy. Right now my options are z1 compact, z2 and MI 4.
Which is best.
My Preferences are User interface, Movie playback, gaming performance and camera
Thanks.
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I was in a similar situation like you.
My previous phone was Galaxy S4 and i hated the phone.
Like you i was in dilemma of Z1 Compact or Z2.
With Z2 and S4 i had to take the phone out of my pockets every time i wanted to sit.
The battery is awful on 1080p and 5''.
Altho movies are more enjoyable on a 5'' screen.
I decided to go for Z1C.
Best phone ever!
I would choose Z2, I had Z1c and it was too small for me
You should buy Z2 if you don't like small phones, or Z1c vice versa
Thanks guys.
In my opinion, sometimes the size does matter but sometimes doesn't .
But what about the performance and battery?
Does the xperia z1 compact and z2 has same glass panel in the back ?
Performance: Basically same.
Xperia Z2: 3GB RAM, Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 Quad core 2300 MHz Krait 400
Xperia Z1C: 2GB RAM, Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 Quad core 2200 MHz Krait 400
Battery: Advantage for Z2
Z2: 3200 mAh Better Call, standby and music playback time since they don't use screen.
Z1C: 2300 mAh Battery full charge is quicker.
For Z1C: Some days i get 3 days standby without charging other times i get 6~7 hours SOT in 1 day and when i need mobile data alot i get less than 5 hours SOT.
Backside of phone:
Z2: Glass
Z1C: Plastic - can order glass panel for ~ 10 bucks.
You cant really compare these phones.
For battery and performance I can just say, the Z1c is awesome. It has so much power that you will barely get it to struggle like ever. And battery lasts for me about 2 1/2 days with normal use.
The question for you is: which SIZE.
The Z1c is - like the name suggests - a compact phone. Easy to hold, you can perfectly use it with one hand and you can put it in your pocket without feeling like you carry a tablet beside your balls.
Now the Z2 is not compact. It's big. End of story. Of course it's also a good phone and has a good performance.
If you want to use your phone a lot for gaming or videos (where a big display matters) you might go with the Z2. If you use it as a phone only with a little bit of web or a lot of music, you dont need such a big device. At least thats how I see it.
For me the compact size matters. If I need a bigger screen I use my tablet. If i'm on the go I need a small phone which never lets me down and which I can use with one hand -> Z1c.
But thats just my preferences
Thanks again everyone. Useful review.
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Hi All
I'm set and ready to buy this device or the Nexus 5 ( 32gb variant )
And I was wondering how long the battery would last for a light user like me who removes all the bloatware on the phone ( All of them )
I also never use 3G or 4G and always on 2G...WI-FI is never or rarely used and I plan to underclock it to 1.7Ghz because ( even Xperia Z a 5" Phone is only running 1.5 I see no point of making a 4.3" phone run max speed )
And of course I don't install FB and Twitter on my phone my gaming habits are kept to a 10-15 Minute mark and most of the time the phone is just in my bed and i pull it out to watch some 720p vids
Will it last really long for me
Thanks alot guys :good:
With that use case, I really don't see why you'd need this phone at all, or any smartphone really. It would be like using your Ferrari only to drive to the mailbox and back.
Save yourself the money and get a Moto G instead - it has a better screen & epic battery life and is more ergonomic, plus you could buy 3 of them for the price of a Z1C Or go for the Nexus 5 and use it as a phablet with a beautiiful 1080p but battery-sucking screen.
With the use you mentioned probably 3 days easily.
Light use probably last you more than 3 days. Yeah, agreed with ghtop that you won't fully utilized Z1C at all and only longer battery life. I would suggest Moto G to save some $.
Hi , guys , i want new phone for next 3 years. I am not planning to root it by any chance. I am done with that. I want phone for 550 dollars max. Tried Note 3 ,amazing but camera weak in low light. Going to swap it for G3 or Z2. Now i have to decide. Want reliable phone , no rooting , fast and snapp , 5,2 inch or more , one of the best cameras , price 550 dollars max.
Thank you.
If its not theZ3, go with the G3. Z2 is "obsolete" in tech world. (Oh i'm so gonna get flamed for saying that xD)
We'll be getting Lollipop in a couple of days, its fast and snappy, and the phone has a great camera, great battery and a great screen.
Lowlight isnt impressive, but then again, which phone Lumias and the new iPhones aside is...?
If Battery life is your main concern, Then Go for Z3(Dont buy Z2)
Z3 Battery Endurance Can Differ from 5Hours SOT on heavy usage to 6.30Hours SOT on Moderate
Battery Life on G3 is Average. .. Coming from Moto E which gives me Atleast 5-5.30Hours SOT ON HEAVY USAGE, I'M disappointed In LG G3.. Feels Like I'M Regretting buying this...
Battery Problems Aside, It A very Good Phone/Phablet
I own a Z2. In a few weeks my wife will be eligable for an upgrade and will have my Z2 whilst I get a new phone.
Z2 has great battery life, easily the best of any android phone I've had (About 8 since HTC Hero) and camera is great too.
Low light is way better than any previous phone I've had. In a slightly dark room the photo comes out looking brighter than it looks to the human eye. Yes you'll get noise but way better than say One X or Nexus 4.
I'm thinking of getting a G3 rather than a Z3, for following reasons:
Looks. I find the Sony phones a bit boring. And G3 bezel impresses me.
Removable cover. This means I can replace the battery. My wife's One X is 2.5 years old and battery is rubbish now, it needs replacing. Battery life will steadily decline after 1 year so think how long u will have phone.
I'd say camera is fairly similar so not much difference there.
Battery life is prob better for Z2 but its rare for me not to have mine charging in work and I rarely have to have it last a long time without charging anyway.
So for me, a G3.
But you'd never complain if you got a Z2 instead.
Need to buy a decent Dual Sim phone asap - have narrowed it down to either the Zenfone or the new ZUK...
They are both quite similar in price and spec except:
ZUK has USB-C and a bigger battery (which is a major plus for me!) - however it has no Band 20 support...
Zenfone2 has more RAM, MicroSD, NFC, FM Radio - however 2nd Sim is only 2G and it seems to have crappy battery life...
What should I buy?
who told you asus zenfone2 has got crappy battery life? phone has got fast charge and decent battery life. unless you don't leave your phone alone all the time i am getting almost 5 hours SOT. so which is better than most of phone on market. also asus zenfone2 ml551 fastest and smoothest phone I have ever seen so far(samsung s6,edge,iphone 6,htc m7 etc) so if you think what you paid for asus zenfone2 it is a brilliant device...
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Sorry i forgot to say. i guess asus zenfone2 has got better support than Lenovo zuk z1
I would go for ZUK Z1, I think Intel and android is a bad combination IMO, heating and battery drain is causing me trouble. But overall Zenfone 2 is a great phone, very smooth. Great camera (beats the Zuk Z1 in camera) but the Z1 seems to have latest hardware like the USB Type-C and also supports fast charging and has a bigger battery too! And not to mention the fingerprint scanner. It is also backed by lenovo.
So for now it is better to go to ZUK Z1.
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I would go for ZUK Z1, I think Intel and android is a bad combination IMO, heating and battery drain is causing me trouble. But overall Zenfone 2 is a great phone, very smooth. Great camera (beats the Zuk Z1 in camera) but the Z1 seems to have latest hardware like the USB Type-C and also supports fast charging and has a bigger battery too! And not to mention the fingerprint scanner. It is also backed by lenovo.
So for now it is better to go to ZUK Z1.
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There are some negative reports about WI-FI signal strength and speed on Lenovo phone, look around for test and report before you make a final decision.
No heating for me.. Battery is manageable. I'm using the 551 with 4GB ram and 64GB storage. Lenovo support sucks balls and as far as i know storage is limited in the Zuk. Fingerprint and looks would be the advantages of the Zuk. But if you're a power user, you'd enjoy the Asus more.
I'm not a big fan of the looks of the Z1 from what I've seen of it. In terms of power, it gets 43000 on Antutu, so roughly somewhere between the 1.8ghz and 2.3ghz Zenfone 2 551 (about the same as the 550, but that gains from only pushing 720p) - similar enough to the zenfones not to matter really then, both around the level of last gen flagships. Fingerprint scanner and bigger battery are nice plus points over the Zenfone, but Zenfone has more RAM and SD Card slot. If you need data on sim 2, then you really have to get the Z1. If not, then I think it's entirely down to personal preference and cost. Are they similarly priced?
for me i would go with the Z1.
I was debating the same thing. I went with the Zenfone 2 in the end. It was cheaper (even the Z3580 4GB model), there's an active developer scene, and it looks as if ASUS will support it for a bit longer still. Oh and the main reason was that it has LTE / 4G band 20.
The Z1 looks like it won't support band 20 yet, but maybe someone comes up with some form of solution, who knows.
After having used the Zenfone 2 for a week or so now I think I could have lived with the Z1 not having LTE band 20 and the slightly higher price. The custom ROM scene will start up at some point probably, and until then you have a fully supported Cyanogen OS 12.1 with an update to 13 coming soon.
If you care about having a 2 day battery life instead of 1 day with normal use, the answer is Z1 as well.
Hello coming from the Z5, i had to say that's the worst mobile i had in the z series line up. May be i got a faulty handset? poor battery life and it was a mini heater. So, how is the z5 premium in these two aspects of battery life & temperature?
Cheers
thalada said:
Hello coming from the Z5, i had to say that's the worst mobile i had in the z series line up. May be i got a faulty handset? poor battery life and it was a mini heater. So, how is the z5 premium in these two aspects of battery life & temperature?
Cheers
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I came to z5p from z2 (looks like you have owned it too) Average battery life of my z5p is almost same,but in heavy tasks (games,intensive internet surfing) z5p discharging faster than z2. And when I read books or listen the music z5p works noticeably longer than z2. Its about 30% in my experience. Heating is lower than z2 too.
By the way in FW 32.2.A.0.224 sony promised to optimize energy consumption and put back stamina mode.
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I came to z5p from z2 (looks like you have owned it too) Average battery life of my z5p is almost same,but in heavy tasks (games,intensive internet surfing) z5p discharging faster than z2. And when I read books or listen the music z5p works noticeably longer than z2. Its about 30% in my experience. Heating is lower than z2 too.
By the way in FW 32.2.A.0.224 sony promised to optimize energy consumption and put back stamina mode.
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Z2 & Z3 were the best in terms of battery stand by, so i am not comparing with that :highfive:
So, heating is less which is a great thing.
Also i heard after the latest updates, almost everything is displayed in 4k, is it true?
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Also i heard after the latest updates, almost everything is displayed in 4k, is it true?
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I dont know,lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Is any way how can I check it? I doubt that this can be seen with the naked eye in a 5.5" display
thalada said:
Z2 & Z3 were the best in terms of battery stand by, so i am not comparing with that :highfive:
So, heating is less which is a great thing.
Also i heard after the latest updates, almost everything is displayed in 4k, is it true?
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No, mostly 1080p. The phone would lag doing simple tasks, hell, it even lags when I emulate 4k from ADB.
Z5P does a good job managing heat. I think the dual heat sinks and thermal paste are doing their job
And regarding 4k, all 4k pixels are firing but resolution may not be 4k lol if that makes sense. 4k resolution becomes available in album, movies, and possibly Mozilla Firefox (I couldn't tell by looking at it but 4k option is available on yt and takes forever to buffer so I'm assuming it is?)
Well, i went ahead and made the purchase. Chrome looks beautiful and the mobile seems to be better in terms of battery life & heat management compared to the z5.
Thank you guys.
Hello there!
I am currently active on the ZTE Axon 7 side of things. I initially bought the Axon because of its speakers, its loud DAC/Amp for headphones and its sleek metal build. I succumbed to "beauty" over functionality and want to make a leap back.
My choices are the OnePlus 3 (not T! it's too expensive) and the Moto Z Play.
My main usage is around 50% Whatsapp, 30% Reddit (via Sync), 10% Youtube, 10% Spotify. I have no games installed and I use the camera occasionally for shooting a picture in Whatsapp...
Will the SD625 be enough for me empirically?
How is the sound output via 1)Speakers, 2) Headphones in comparison to phones like the Nexus 5, LG G4, Nexus 5X (those are phones I know and heard)?
How "easy" is it to unlock the Bootloader for european users?
How fast and accurate is the fingerprint sensor?
For Germans: Does the turbocharger come included in the box?
People who got the Z Play and the OP3: What is your opinion?
I tried to be as specific as possible and hope that I will be able to contribute more once I make my decision.
iNaruX said:
Hello there!
I am currently active on the ZTE Axon 7 side of things. I initially bought the Axon because of its speakers, its loud DAC/Amp for headphones and its sleek metal build. I succumbed to "beauty" over functionality and want to make a leap back.
My choices are the OnePlus 3 (not T! it's too expensive) and the Moto Z Play.
My main usage is around 50% Whatsapp, 30% Reddit (via Sync), 10% Youtube, 10% Spotify. I have no games installed and I use the camera occasionally for shooting a picture in Whatsapp...
Will the SD625 be enough for me empirically?
How is the sound output via 1)Speakers, 2) Headphones in comparison to phones like the Nexus 5, LG G4, Nexus 5X (those are phones I know and heard)?
How "easy" is it to unlock the Bootloader for european users?
How fast and accurate is the fingerprint sensor?
For Germans: Does the turbocharger come included in the box?
People who got the Z Play and the OP3: What is your opinion?
I tried to be as specific as possible and hope that I will be able to contribute more once I make my decision.
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Hi there,
The snapdragon 625 has enough power for your use cases, actually more than enough. I haven't found an app or game it couldn't handle until now.
Speakers: Compared to my Nexus 4, far better. Very clear and loud, but I can't speak for other models you mentioned.
Bootloader: Unlocking the bootloader is fairly easy. Register on the motorola site, boot phone into fastboot and obtain the device key. Submit it and Moto sends your unlock key via e-mail. But keep in mind you will loose your warranty.
Fingerprint sensor: Unlocks really fast (less than a second). I can't compare the accuracy as it is my first device with a sensor, but until today it always unlocked
Turbocharger: I bought the retail version from amazon.de and it was included.
The OP3 probably has a larger developer base, so if you are into custom roms the OP3 might be a better choice. On the other hand, you won't find a phone with a better battery life than the Z Play. My phone visits the charger every three days ...
Have a look at this thread for more pros and cons.
Unlocks faster than it takes to swipe up on the screen it seems.
Because of battery life, I upgraded 2 times. First from Moto G 2014 to Moto X Play, then Moto Z Play.
If you ask regarding phone quality or listening to something different than music, fine. The Z Play is a wonderful device, it's fast, it stays cool when gaming, it has every sensor you could need, components are very good, everything's working together great saving battery. You can't plug the charger the wrong way because it's USB-C! I like it very much and would always recommend it.
The sound of the Moto Z Play is good. But if you search for something to play music via loud speaker, never take a device without stereo. For music the sound of Moto G 2014 which has stereo speakers is so much better.
A colleague has the Sony X Compact X and is very confident, this maybe an option. I don't like Sony, they like to restrict users, they implement a different GUI for Android, they delete some functionality RIP (raster image processing) when rooting. But if you ask about sound and refer to music, you may have a look at it.
The other devices I don't know, and I didn't hear the loudspeaker of the Sony. I don't have the comparison you want, but just wanted to tell you my experience. Hope it helps.
You may have a look at the speaker mod. Or take some external speaker, the Moto Z Play supports aptX which makes Bluetooth sound great (of course the other device has to support it too to make it work).
Thank you for the answers! I'm not that much into custom Roms, but the original software on the Axon 7 is so bad, that is was absolutely necessary.
How is the software on the Z Play? I hear that Moto usually updates pretty fast and keeps it stock.
Before the MZP I had an OP3 as a daily driver - it died after two months, the touchscreen just stopped working out of nowhere. The only thing I preferred the OP3 over the MZP is the design and, maybe, the camera.
Sound: OP3's output (3.5mm) seemed to be a little bit louder, but not better in any way. The MZP wins the speaker battle (front-facing ftw!).
Performance: Despite having half the RAM and a much less powerful SoC I feel that the MZP performs way smoother, especially multi tasking works much better (sic!).
Battery: OP3 struggled to get me over 1.5 days, MZP reachs up to 4 days and 3 on a regular basis.
Turbocharger: I'm from Switzerland, so not sure about DE, but I got the turbocharger included. Pretty sure it's the same for Germany.
Software: Had some bugs @OP3, but that may have changed in the meantime. Overall it's communty is much bigger - but I don't really care about custom ROMs when the phone comes with (nearly) stock Android as the MZP does.
Updates: In terms of pace I would give this point to the OP3 - but they had to deliver fastly to troubleshoot all the bugs, so...
Features: The MZP comes with a bunch a really cool and useful software features. Just check out the Moto Actions.
So, overall I'd definitely go with the MZP again anytime.
I went from Axon 7 to OnePlus 3 to Moto Z Play. The Axon 7 had frustrating Software, no development, very annoying capacitive buttons, and an annoying curved back (didn't sit flat on tables). The OnePlus 3 had great software and tons of development, but speakers sucked and battery life was worse (although still enough to make it through most days without charging mid day). The Z play has awesome stock software and plenty of development, good front facing speaker, insane battery life, flat back, mods (love my speaker mod and leather back), and performance is just as good as the oneplus 3 and Axon 7. Next to each other, the OnePlus 3 was noticeably faster than the Axon, but the oneplus 3 and Moto z play are identical.
I would never go back to an 800-series CPU again. Having unlimited battery life, a phone that never ever heats up no matter what, and is just as smooth as the fastest phones on the market is wonderful. The SD625 is marketed as a "mid-range CPU", but considering it's the only cpu other than the SD 820/1 on the 14nm process, it's really a flagship CPU that prioritizes efficiency over performance. Can't wait for the 10nm SD635!
Unlocking bootloader is easy for everyone (except Verizon models), fingerprint reader is faster than the Axon but a little slower than the OnePlus 3. Camera is worse than both (you didn't ask about that, but if that's very important to you, the OP3 camera is really really good). The Moto gestures and ambient display are really useful and work very well. Front speaker on the Z Play is tinny at high volume but way better than the OP3 speaker. Build quality is excellent on all 3 phones. I can't tell any difference using headphones between the OP3 and the Z Play, but neither are as good as the Axon 7 was. The stock software on the Z Play is better than the pixel or nexus. OnePlus 3 Software is better if you care about customization out of the box. If you don't care, the Z Play software is better.
Thanks so much to the last 2 replies, this made my choice a lot easier.
The camera on the mzp is about as good as the 5x but nowhere near the G4. Sound is a bit better than the 5x and G4 but nothing stunning. Hardware is way better than lg which is failure prone. Exchange services on the Moto are good and better than Google AOSP which are worthless but lg services are better than Moto's. I'm impressed with the one plus 3t. Awesome hardware if you want a VR capable phone. The mzp is the perfect workhorse. Amazing battery and never feels slow.
I currently have the oneplus3, Axon 7, and Nexus 6p.. I am thinking about downsizing to only have the z play because the sd 625 is amazing with power efficiency and is a strong enough processor for anything a phone needs to do. Gaming, Taking some pictures, 2 day battery life, plus it's water resistant (proof...?) Saw a video of a dude leaving it under water for an hour with no damage!
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I went from the Axon 7 to Z Play and I'm not looking back. The best decision I ever did. Software was weird on the Axon, capacitive buttons were easy to miss and some other small things. The only thing better was the display's scratch resistance and the camera glass too.
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Listening to music using headphones. OnePlus 3 is a strict no no. The sound signature of Moto z play via headphone is excellent - I was pleasantly surprised. It is deep and loud even though it doesnot have any dedicated DAC.
Battery life in z play is insane. SOT - 7 to 8 hours easy even with nougat update.
The UI is super smooth and clean.
Moto z play is perhaps the most underrated phone.
I agree completely. I also came from the axon 7. The Moto z play is gonna be a hard phone to quit!!! And I was one to switch phones every 3 months.
Oh, I forgot to tell: I made the switch and am not looking back
Love the gestures, SOT is around 5-6 hours, on my Axon I had like 2.5 days.
I feel like people with thosei nsane SOT times (10+ hours) are using it permanently and letting the screen on at just idle.
My phone only has 5hours SOT but lasts around 5-6 days because it is always in standby
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Oh, I forgot to tell: I made the switch and am not looking back
Love the gestures, SOT is around 5-6 hours, on my Axon I had like 2.5 days.
I feel like people with thosei nsane SOT times (10+ hours) are using it permanently and letting the screen on at just idle.
My phone only has 5hours SOT but lasts around 5-6 days because it is always in standby
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So what did you get? I just got me the Moto Z Play after so much research. I gave my dad a MOTO G5 Plus for his birthday just to see how the SD625 performed and that thing convinced me it was lag free and snappy (low light camera sucks big time though on the G5). I had bad experiences with SD615/617 with previous devices I owned like the Idol 3S. It was just a lag fest and slow downs on those devices. Don't know if the 2ghz or the 14nm or the 933mhz DDR3 or a combination of all 3 that made a drastic change in performance on the SD625 over the SD615 but so far it is a completely different beast. Was about to get the OP5 but found an open box Z play for a really good price and could not pass it up. I'm coming from a Moto X Pure. I was sick and tire of the pure's battery life, and the micro lags here and there when it started to heat up. I loved the dual speakers but oh well, the single speaker on the play is loud enough and is front facing. The AMOLED is just beautiful, no WIFI AC like the pure but I don't even transfer large files over wifi to my desktop. So don't care. I haven't tested the cameras yet, and won't upgrade to nougat - I like Xposed. Will come back and drop a line or two after I use this device for a couple of weeks.
It would be downgrade
iNaruX said:
Hello there!
I am currently active on the ZTE Axon 7 side of things. I initially bought the Axon because of its speakers, its loud DAC/Amp for headphones and its sleek metal build. I succumbed to "beauty" over functionality and want to make a leap back.
My choices are the OnePlus 3 (not T! it's too expensive) and the Moto Z Play.
My main usage is around 50% Whatsapp, 30% Reddit (via Sync), 10% Youtube, 10% Spotify. I have no games installed and I use the camera occasionally for shooting a picture in Whatsapp...
Will the SD625 be enough for me empirically?
How is the sound output via 1)Speakers, 2) Headphones in comparison to phones like the Nexus 5, LG G4, Nexus 5X (those are phones I know and heard)?
How "easy" is it to unlock the Bootloader for european users?
How fast and accurate is the fingerprint sensor?
For Germans: Does the turbocharger come included in the box?
People who got the Z Play and the OP3: What is your opinion?
I tried to be as specific as possible and hope that I will be able to contribute more once I make my decision.
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I had Axon 7 and I had OnePlus 3, and now I'm using Moto Z Play,
Only thing better in Z Play is batter and everything ends there.
Axon 7 have beautiful display, Sound from headphones and speakers are not match, performance was also superior, only thing I felt inferior was Camera but Z Play is no good IMO, I'm also Using HTC U11 so It is snappy for most part (Z Play) but I often see slow downs, and for my Z Play call speaker was a downgrade as well. what I like about Z Play is batter and Moto Display.
IMO OnePlus 3 will be better purchase than Moto Z Play.