2 USB accessories on AFTV2 at the same time? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am trying to use a flirc remote control dongle and a xbox 360 wireless game controller (with usb receiver dongle) at the same time. I have tried 2 different USB hubs, one is a generic 4-1, and one is a amazon branded "amazon basics" 4-1 hub. Both show the same (limited) functionality, i.e. the flirc works, the xbox controller dongle gets power, but after syncing with the controller, there is no onscreen response to the controller. This lack of response is consistent with and without the flirc plugged in. If I plug the xbox dongle directly into the AFTV2, or through a short 1-1 USB extension cable, the xbox controller works perfectly.
I am hoping that there is something obvious that I am missing here. Maybe a software hack. If there is a post i missed addressing this, please feel free to unload all appropriate beratements before posting the link. Any suggestions would be welcome. I am toying with the idea of some kind of USB switch, maybe with a simple remote so my fat butt can stay seated. Thanks in advance,
-Editdroid

Editdroid said:
I am trying to use a flirc remote control dongle and a xbox 360 wireless game controller (with usb receiver dongle) at the same time. I have tried 2 different USB hubs, one is a generic 4-1, and one is a amazon branded "amazon basics" 4-1 hub. Both show the same (limited) functionality, i.e. the flirc works, the xbox controller dongle gets power, but after syncing with the controller, there is no onscreen response to the controller. This lack of response is consistent with and without the flirc plugged in. If I plug the xbox dongle directly into the AFTV2, or through a short 1-1 USB extension cable, the xbox controller works perfectly.
I am hoping that there is something obvious that I am missing here. Maybe a software hack. If there is a post i missed addressing this, please feel free to unload all appropriate beratements before posting the link. Any suggestions would be welcome. I am toying with the idea of some kind of USB switch, maybe with a simple remote so my fat butt can stay seated. Thanks in advance,
-Editdroid
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Sounds like your hub won't supply enough power to the dongle. Does it have a secondary power source you can plug in?

No, there is no secondary power source with either hub. I have ordered a hub w/12v power source. I will update soon. Thanks for the tip!

No joy with the powered USB (3.0) hub. I did however get a strange moment while attempting to get the controller to sync, where the fire tv reported that internet connection had been lost, then popped up a dialogue showing me my connections was good. I couldn't get it to go away until i unplugged the controller.

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No joy with the powered USB (3.0) hub. I did however get a strange moment while attempting to get the controller to sync, where the fire tv reported that internet connection had been lost, then popped up a dialogue showing me my connections was good. I couldn't get it to go away until i unplugged the controller.
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That stinks, I wonder if anyone can confirm a hub working for them?

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[Q] Help with xbox controller

I have a wired Xbox controller and an OTG cable that has been reported to work with the new nexus 7. When I plug it in I get no indication that anything was pliugged in and the light on the controller just flashes. There is also additional input methods showing. I don't even know where to start any help would be much appreciated.
Edit: I plugged a mouse in and it worked fine. I have some crappy batman Xbox controller I'm wondering if that's the issue although it works perfectly with my pc
angelino0919 said:
I have a wired Xbox controller and an OTG cable that has been reported to work with the new nexus 7. When I plug it in I get no indication that anything was pliugged in and the light on the controller just flashes. There is also additional input methods showing. I don't even know where to start any help would be much appreciated.
Edit: I plugged a mouse in and it worked fine. I have some crappy batman Xbox controller I'm wondering if that's the issue although it works perfectly with my pc
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check out my thread about wiimotes the udb bt software supports xbox 360 controllers.

[Q] Fire TV XBox 360 Wireless Receiver Third Party

Hallo everyone,
I'm new in this forum and I hope I am right here.
So the Fire TV is new in Germany and I preordered it.
It would be fine if I will be able to use my wireless Xbox 360 Controller with it.
I have read that it is possible to use the original wireless receiver for PC.
But what's about the remake from it (the version from China)? For PC I have to install the drivers manually.
Is it possible to use? Has somebody tried it?
For example like the "White PC USB Gaming Receiver Adapter White For Xbox 360 Wireless Controller" on amazon.com
Sorry I'm not allowed to post links.
Thanks!
McDin1988 said:
Hallo everyone,
I'm new in this forum and I hope I am right here.
So the Fire TV is new in Germany and I preordered it.
It would be fine if I will be able to use my wireless Xbox 360 Controller with it.
I have read that it is possible to use the original wireless receiver for PC.
But what's about the remake from it (the version from China)? For PC I have to install the drivers manually.
Is it possible to use? Has somebody tried it?
For example like the "White PC USB Gaming Receiver Adapter White For Xbox 360 Wireless Controller" on amazon.com
Sorry I'm not allowed to post links.
Thanks!
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Hello
Yes, i have one from ebay (chinese clone) and it works fine. Lights in the controller doesn´t light up as usually but that happens with the official receiver also.
Hey,
I'm using a knockoff chinese receiver. I got mine on amazon for about 13 USD and it works great. It can be a little tricky to configure the controls with Mupen 64 or whatever emulator you are using, and the 'x' home key always takes you back to the games section of the kftv launcher (despite having xbmc set as the launcher, for example), but it works in game just fine.
Let me know if you have any questions- I'd be happy to help.
Can you connect more than one Controller on that adapter? I read, that 4 Controller + 4 headsets are possible with this adapter (on a PC). Whould be nice for multiplayer games...
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I haven't tried headsets, but I've used at least two controllers at once, and I also understand up to 4 per receiver works (theoretically more receivers = more players, but I'm not buying another one to test that theory).
How to hook up third party controllers correctly
I was searching the web up and down in order to get my third party controller (china) to work without a solution. Actually it was easier than I thought:
- connect the dongle
- restart the Fire TV (5 sec hold of Play+Big Button)
- press X on controller
The controller doesn't stop blinking but if you are able to navigate through menus everything worked well.
I bought this receiver from amazon (www (dot) ebay (dot) com/itm/271687378076?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) and it's not working when I plug it into the Fire TV. I believe the receiver works though because when I plugged it into my mac and I was able to see all the keys responding using 360Controller.
Everybody seems to have minimal issues connecting controllers to their Fire TV. Any ideas?
(Sorry, I don't have enough posts to post links.)
ilovexd said:
I bought this receiver from amazon (www (dot) ebay (dot) com/itm/271687378076?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) and it's not working when I plug it into the Fire TV. I believe the receiver works though because when I plugged it into my mac and I was able to see all the keys responding using 360Controller.
Everybody seems to have minimal issues connecting controllers to their Fire TV. Any ideas?
(Sorry, I don't have enough posts to post links.)
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I'm sorry, but it'd be tough to replicate the issue without a device to test with. That receiver looks identical to the one I purchased, but I don't know if it is actually the same on the inside.
I don't know about on OSX, but I found that I could pair the xbox controller with the receiver on my windows PC (using the generic driver). Once I had paired on Windows, I could plug the adapter into anything running android and it would work just fine.
That's the first place I would start- try pairing a controller and making it work on a machine running Windows or OSX or whatever is 'supposed' to work. That way, you can at least tell if the hardware is bad. If you are able to pair and use it on one of those machines, plug it into your Fire TV and use the same controller and see if it recognizes it.
If it works on OSX or Windows but not on the Fire TV, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe pick up a USB OTG adapter and see if you can get it running on another android system. I haven't found a phone / tablet yet that hasn't been plug and play with the adapter.
Lastly, and this is unlikely, it could be that you are running a USB hub that isn't able to provide sufficient power. If that is the case, unplug all other USB devices and test it in the port. If it works there, the hub / draw of other devices is your problem. I'd recommend getting a powered USB hub in that case.
hotterpop said:
I'm sorry, but it'd be tough to replicate the issue without a device to test with. That receiver looks identical to the one I purchased, but I don't know if it is actually the same on the inside.
I don't know about on OSX, but I found that I could pair the xbox controller with the receiver on my windows PC (using the generic driver). Once I had paired on Windows, I could plug the adapter into anything running android and it would work just fine.
That's the first place I would start- try pairing a controller and making it work on a machine running Windows or OSX or whatever is 'supposed' to work. That way, you can at least tell if the hardware is bad. If you are able to pair and use it on one of those machines, plug it into your Fire TV and use the same controller and see if it recognizes it.
If it works on OSX or Windows but not on the Fire TV, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe pick up a USB OTG adapter and see if you can get it running on another android system. I haven't found a phone / tablet yet that hasn't been plug and play with the adapter.
Lastly, and this is unlikely, it could be that you are running a USB hub that isn't able to provide sufficient power. If that is the case, unplug all other USB devices and test it in the port. If it works there, the hub / draw of other devices is your problem. I'd recommend getting a powered USB hub in that case.
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Thanks for the suggestions but I don't think the adapter will work with the Fire TV. I'm not using a hub anywhere in the setup.
I can pair the controller to a Windows machine using the adapter and the generic driver. I'm able to see the computer register all the inputs using the joy.cpl (app?) in Windows. When I plug the adapter into the Fire TV afterwards, I still can't control anything with the controller. Does the ADB debugging switch make a difference? I have the adb over usb set to OFF.
What's an USB OTG and where can I get one? What adapter did you pick up that worked? It might be better if I just picked up the same one instead of troubleshooting this one. Open to any other ideas though.
ilovexd said:
Thanks for the suggestions but I don't think the adapter will work with the Fire TV. I'm not using a hub anywhere in the setup.
I can pair the controller to a Windows machine using the adapter and the generic driver. I'm able to see the computer register all the inputs using the joy.cpl (app?) in Windows. When I plug the adapter into the Fire TV afterwards, I still can't control anything with the controller. Does the ADB debugging switch make a difference? I have the adb over usb set to OFF.
What's an USB OTG and where can I get one? What adapter did you pick up that worked? It might be better if I just picked up the same one instead of troubleshooting this one. Open to any other ideas though.
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I'm still not convinced the device is not malfunctioning. Did you actually connect and use a controller to control the PC? It could be that the device is connecting and sending some information, but the part that actually connects to the controller is broken. On Windows, you can just download the driver and install it as per these instructions: https://krisrowland.wordpress.com/2...eless-controller-adapter-in-windows-7-64-bit/
I'm pretty sure this is the controller I bought. Like I said, it looks the same as yours. I'm confident you just got a bad unit.
I had one question:
-Does the rumble function work? (The vibration)
Greetings by Idijt
I_did_it_just_tmrrow said:
I had one question:
-Does the rumble function work? (The vibration)
Greetings by Idijt
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It's been a while since I've actually used it, but if I remember right it does work if you map it properly in the emulator you are using. For example, Mupen 64 has support for rumble packs, and I'm about 80% certain it works.
hi mate did you ever get this working, i have the same issue, bought a cheap receiver from ebay. hooked it up to laptop, installed driver, worked fine. connect to fire tv, nothing!
ARGH!!!!
The cheap china clones just making problems with Android aka FireTV. That's what I heard.
But the original adapter makes me sometimes Problems too. Sometimes the Box Start in security Mode (grey written in the left corner of the screen) or had to replug them After Start to let the Box recognice the adapter again.
I bought two very great Bluetooth Controller from "mi". Really nice. Like Xbox 360 Controller. You can buy it cheap @ allbuy.com.
Greetings by Idijt
manikm303 said:
hi mate did you ever get this working, i have the same issue, bought a cheap receiver from ebay. hooked it up to laptop, installed driver, worked fine. connect to fire tv, nothing!
ARGH!!!!
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I got it working!!!! Make sure all developer options are turned off in settings.
Hi there, I'm having the same issue here.
HARDWARE: - FireTV 2.0
- xbox 360 wireless chinadapter
- xbox 360 wireless controller
I've turned off the dev settings on my firetv, connected the 360 controller via my chinadapter to my pc to verify that it's paired and working. Plugged my adapter into my firetv. Restarted firetv. Pressed the silver X button, the blue x button, the ))) connect button... Still nothing. I've gone into the "Add a new controller" area (where it tries to establish connectivity) and tried everything I can think of. I was really excited about this and am kinda bummed. Not wanting to buy extra controllers really.
- something noone else has mentioned running into - the firetv seems to crash or reset itself when I push the ))) connect button on the chinadapter receiver. . . weird. . .
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UPDATE:
I got it to interact randomly. Unfortunately it was unacceptably buggy. Crashing games, not recognizing inputs and, well, everything that might be awful about a controller. So I guess I'm looking into cheap bluetooth controllers. def not spending $50 on Amazons controller to play freaking android games lol let alone games in the amazon app store. Thanks for the thread and any advice on getting it to work properly you may have discovered.
I am having the issue of not being able to connect my 360 controller via the Chinese adapter to the fire tv....I have got it working in windows but it wont connect on the fire tv. I have disabled developer options restarted the fire tv and hit the x button to try to connect but I get nothing.

[Q] XBOX 360 Controller

So, I seem to be the only one not able to get a 360 controller to work with my factory Fire TV. I've tried the MS wireless dongle and wireless controller and a MS wired controller. Neither respond at all. What am I missing here?
bcrosby51 said:
So, I seem to be the only one not able to get a 360 controller to work with my factory Fire TV. I've tried the MS wireless dongle and wireless controller and a MS wired controller. Neither respond at all. What am I missing here?
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I've tried a wired 360 controller on mine and it works fine (at least when running a fire tv native game).
Does the wired controller work on a PC? What firmware version are you using?
bcrosby51 said:
So, I seem to be the only one not able to get a 360 controller to work with my factory Fire TV. I've tried the MS wireless dongle and wireless controller and a MS wired controller. Neither respond at all. What am I missing here?
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after buying the microsoft wireless controller you must download and run pc software to a pc to sync the 360 remote to the dongle. once it is synced and working on the pc you can unplug the dongle and plug it into the firetv usb port. as a note, when conected to fire tv the 4 led's on the controler flash in a circle as if not connected but it actually works.
Yep. I've tried syncing it first on my pc. Both the wired and wireless work on my pc....but not the fire tv
bcrosby51 said:
Yep. I've tried syncing it first on my pc. Both the wired and wireless work on my pc....but not the fire tv
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Does a USB keyboard work on the Fire TV (just to make sure it's not the usb port)? Have you tried rebooting the Fire TV?
I assume it works, I dont have a free keyboard lying around. When I plug the wireless dongle in the light lights up and when I plug the wired controller in it lights up for a second, then the light goes out..and will not come back on.
I ordered one of the cheap 8 buck wireless dongles for the 360 controller. It quickly detected the my controller on my pc and paired up. I moved everything over to the fire tv.. Does anyone else find that the controller is very hit or miss on games? I have 3 games that say they will work with either the fire remote or a gamepad.. Crossy road, Unpossible, and Robotu. Robatu is the only one that actually works once in the game.. When out of games, the xbox controller does fine navigating evertying within the main Amazon interface. Anyone else?
Bumping.. can anyone with an xbox controller confirm / tell me if mine's just not working right- or is it also hit and miss for you on games that support the game controller?
My Xbox 360 controller works with KOTOR and Tales from the Borderlands.
Viperise152 said:
My Xbox 360 controller works with KOTOR and Tales from the Borderlands.
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The 360 controller is incompatible with KOTOR. It seems to work at first, but the d-pad is non functional which eventually breaks the game. At least you can sort of play it, though; I've had other games be completely unplayable due to the main menu not responding to the 360 controller's input.
Bottom line: The 360 controller is NOT fully compatible with the Fire TV. Amazon claims that it works (and it sort of does) but it's mostly just another example of the half-assed state of the Fire TV OS and software.
George2000 said:
The 360 controller is incompatible with KOTOR. It seems to work at first, but the d-pad is non functional which eventually breaks the game. At least you can sort of play it, though; I've had other games be completely unplayable due to the main menu not responding to the 360 controller's input.
Bottom line: The 360 controller is NOT fully compatible with the Fire TV. Amazon claims that it works (and it sort of does) but it's mostly just another example of the half-assed state of the Fire TV OS and software.
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Weird I still have not had any issues with mine yet. If it makes a difference I have been using both the XBox 360 console controller and a wired XBox 360 PC model controller.

Wireless 360 Controller?

I've read many posts about not being able to properly utilize the wireless Xbox 360 controller with the new Fire TV 2nd gen. Most that I've read were either never commented on again, or the individual fixed it by disabling use debugging.
I've disabled USB debugging, I am using the official wireless receiver and controller, and I have been unable to pair my 360 controller with this fire tv 2. I have tried before and after root, I've tried disabling stickmount, along with force-closing any 3rd party or unnecessary apps I've side loaded with no success.
Has anyone managed to pair these? If so, did you have trouble at first but fixed it by doing something very simple? What steps did you take?
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Seems I missed one thread stating disconnecting the Ethernet port seemed to allows the 360 controller to connect. Not ideal. Guess I'll just stick to limelight nvidia game stream.
yes, disconnect the ethernet port only use wifi then the 360 controller will be ok.
Yeah that would be my post lol
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Wish I read this before spending 30 mins on a call with Amazon. Though they did say it would be fixed in the next update
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disconnect the ethernet port to get it working really ?? - what kind of f*cked up, incompetent sh*t is that from Amazon - don't expect them to fix it quickly
I hate to hijack but since we're talking about 360 controllers, has anyone been able to get two wired 360 controllers or a wired controller and a USB mouse to run?
lightykd said:
I hate to hijack but since we're talking about 360 controllers, has anyone been able to get two wired 360 controllers or a wired controller and a USB mouse to run?
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I think all you need to do is plug in a 4 port USB hub into the USB port on the Fire TV. Then plug in your 4 Wired Xbox 360 remotes. The controller light indicator should turn on each remote letting you know which controller they are (1,2,3,4)
You can then use this for various games/emulators etc.
Working !!??
More than a year post but im try ... I have stick basic édition whit the latest update ... i try to SYNC my xbox 360 contrôler unsuccesfully !! My question is .. does my 360 contrôler are supported by fire stick or Do i need to Buy usb hub plus 360 Receiver ?
Thank for your help ?

Wireless Keyboard on USB Hub

I have a 2.4GHz mini wireless keyboard/mouse (Rii 2.4GHz Wireless Mini Kodi Keyboard -- can be found on Amazon by that name but I am not allowed to post the link).
It works great on the AFTV (Gen 2) when the receiver is plugged directly into the USB port on the AFTV. But I wanted to add another USB device and since the AFTV only has one USB port I thought I would use a USB hub.
Now the keyboard/mouse will not work at all when plugged into the hub. I have observed the following while troubleshooting:
1. Keyboard works great on AFTV when not using a USB hub.
1. I have tried both a regular and a powered USB 2.0 hub.
2. With both hubs, when the keyboard did not work on AFTV I moved the hub to a laptop and the keyboard worked great.
3. I also tried another full size 2.4 wireless keyboard and mouse on both hubs and again they failed when the hub was connected to AFTV but worked fine when the hub was connected to a computer.
4. I have swapped out several different USB cables and they all have the same results.
5. Other USB devices, e.g. a flash drive, work just fine on the USB hub when attached to AFTV.
Does anyone have any ideas or advice about this problem I am having using a wireless keyboard with USB hub? I greatly appreciate any help I can receive on this forum as I am thoroughly stumped right now.
Thanks., R
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Rii mini II working fine with AmazonBasics 4-Port USB 2.0 Ultra-Mini Hub (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003M0NURK) on AFTV2 and AFTV1
Kramar111 said:
@rshields9093
Rii mini II working fine with AmazonBasics 4-Port USB 2.0 Ultra-Mini Hub [link removed due to site policy] on AFTV2 and AFTV1
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@Kramar111 Thank you very much for the reply. I never figured out why, but the exact hub you linked to still did not allow me to use my 2.4GHz wireless keyboard.
I finally broke down and bought a new Bluetooth mini-keyboard and that has been working great. USB hubs I have tested work great with the AFTV2 in general, for those that are wondering. I have successfully used a USB flash thumb drive, Flirc receiver, and generic IR remote receiver on a several different hubs (I haven't yet tried a spinning USB drive, but think it might work on a powered hub). It is only the above mentioned 2.4GHz mini-keyboard that was problematic.
Amazon customer support is no help in this matter. They simply say they don't support use of a hub. For those making a new keyboard/mouse purchase for their AFTV2, a Bluetooth version may the safest route (and not take up a USB spot).
I bought a usb3.0 hub for aftv2ndgen. I do not have Rii 2.4GHz Wireless Mini Kodi Keyboard to test. bluetooth sometimes feels laggy compared to usb wireless perhaps a 3.0 hub might be more favorable for you.
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@rshields9093
Rii mini II working fine with AmazonBasics 4-Port USB 2.0 Ultra-Mini Hub (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003M0NURK) on AFTV2 and AFTV1
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Using the same hub with FLIRC dongle and Logic Keyboard/Mouse on a Fire TV2... it also worked on my first gen fire tv

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