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Fire TV with Bluetooth keyboard + mouse/trackpad

I apologize up front because I can see that this has been discussed but I can't find a definitive answer after reading through all the different threads.
Is there a way to pair a bluetooth keyboard + mouse/trackpad to the Fire TV with a device that can't be rooted?
I ask because like a lot of others, I just pre-ordered the Fire TV Stick. Now I know it's not out so we don't know what it can/can't do but assuming the code is the same, I'm trying to do some homework before it arrives. And since the Stick doesn't have the USB inputs, I have to rely on Bluetooth or maybe an app for a virtual keyboard/mouse if anyone knows of one.
Thanks in advanced!

I didn't even think of that. I ordered two. I use my K400 occassionally for different apps. I was using the limitless remote app too. The new Fire Tv Remote app might work but I will miss the K400.

stanggman75 said:
I didn't even think of that. I ordered two. I use my K400 occasionally for different apps. I was using the limitless remote app too. The new Fire Tv Remote app might work but I will miss the K400.
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Yeah. I'm looking for it to use with HBOgo mostly. I'm guessing that the mouse is the important input to get that working.

It will be great if I can pair my Bluetooth mouse with Fire TV Stick.

This works well with the FireTV: http://eud.dx.com/product/ipazzport...google-tv-player-black-844230388#.VHTNJTSsVx0

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This works well with the FireTV
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Is that a bluetooth device? Or does it have a USB dongle? The Fire Stick doesn't have a free USB port.

jeck11 said:
Is that a bluetooth device? Or does it have a USB dongle? The Fire Stick doesn't have a free USB port.
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USB dongle. I don't use the port for anything else so its fine for me.
Has anyone tried a USB hub on the Fire?

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Is that a bluetooth device? Or does it have a USB dongle? The Fire Stick doesn't have a free USB port.
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This is exactly what I am trying to figure out also, a Bluetooth keyboard/trackpad that will work with sideloaded apps like HBO GO or NFL Game Pass that are not compatible with the remote.

usb dongles work on firetv, not on firetv stick.... for now.

Would also like to know, sideloaded Settings.apk on mine to get to the stock android settings. Can detect Microsoft bluetooth mouse, Monoprice bluetooth headset and sound brick but none of them pair right. The two audio devices make a pairing sound. But don't play audio.

I sideloaded the settings.apk, and using it I'm able to successfully pair Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse. Both keyboard and mouse functionalities work just as if it was USB keyboard/mouse.

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I sideloaded the settings.apk, and using it I'm able to successfully pair Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse. Both keyboard and mouse functionalities work just as if it was USB keyboard/mouse.
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Yes, keyboard pairing works with both Fire TV and Fire TV Stick. I've sideloaded the settings apk and have successfully paired the AERB IBK-02 keyboard with trackpad/mouse to both devices. This keyboard has a trackpad, but it has limited functionality. Although scrolling is possible with two finger touch, you cannot click and drag. For this you'll need to pair up a Bluetooth mouse.

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I picked this up for my Samsung TV ( doesn't work with mine - no Bluetooth )
But, it works with my Sony GoogleTv and my FTV stick with settings apk side-loaded
the nice thing with this keyboard is that you can pair it with 3 different devices.
It has a selector button on the top to choose which one.
I haven't played with it very long and am trying to figure out what works and what doesn't
To use the touch-pad a switch on the bottom needs to be slid to "mouse mode"
I can't use the TV specific buttons on the right side of the keyboard. Wish i knew how to get them to work with the GoogleTv - it has an Ir blaster built in and will control volume,channel,etc
It will power my TV on and off - it has an Ir transmitter. But, that is all that does - strange
They are marked down to $39 at Best Buy and there are usually many open boxed ones to be had for less. Original price was about $100
But, they are mostly useless for the Samsung Tvs that they do work on - Most of apps do not support the keyboard or so I have read.
Wish the was some sort of unifying remote that I could connect to it and then plug into my TV though.
If you get one, the touchpad goes into a sleep mode after 30 seconds or so. I've read that hitting any button will wake it up. I didn't know that at first and was pairing it , unpairing it and powering it off.
If anyone else picks one of these up, Please post your findings

kanedo said:
I sideloaded the settings.apk, and using it I'm able to successfully pair Apple Wireless Keyboard and Apple Magic Mouse. Both keyboard and mouse functionalities work just as if it was USB keyboard/mouse.
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Hello
i tried to connect an Apple Magic Trackpad - i can find it and i can write the pin then im am stuck - it wont connect - how did you do it ?

Amazon Fire TV Stick and the PS4 Controller

Has anybody else had any luck pairing a PS4 controller with the Amazon Fire TV Stick? I saw that with the Amazon Fire TV you hold share and power, and you can then pair them. On the Stick everything seems to go about the same, except then it says 'Unable to pair' when you select Wireless Controller.

Hey i'm having the same problem. I don't have the Fire TV but have read something similar to what you said. If you figure out a method plz let me know.

Same here
Having the same issue here. Can't seem to figure it out;

Any updates guys?

khb008 said:
Any updates guys?
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I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.

Ualdayan said:
I tried sideloading Android's settings.apk - and even then it was a no go. Maybe part of their plan of selling it for $20 was counting on some sales of the $40 controller, so they don't want us using other controllers with it anymore.
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I also tried with the settings apk. My problem was that the controller would not even show up in the Settings.apk Bluetooth menu. On the other hand, it showed up in the Bluetooth controllers options but did not connect.
Other people have had success connecting the Ouya controller thus I think its not that they don't want ANY 3rd party controllers, its just that the Bluetooth driver and/or hardware they're using is different than the Fire TV. Which is really sad because the ONLY reason I bought the Fire TV stick was because I read PS4 controller works out of the box with FireTV.

Same issue for me and I'm really bummed. Any other things to try besides the settings.apk? I have a feeling this is a cut cost hardware issue.

same issue
I have just spoken with amazon and according to them the PS4 controller is not compatible. I too saw an youtube video where someone was able to pair it, if anyone has a solution to this issue please let me know, I really don't want to wait for the playpad pro that is optimazied for amazon since its back ordered

I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)

BOBdotEXE said:
I finally got it to pair, but the performance is pretty terrible, you can see the process here: http://youtu.be/jF3ExA3qzbc (no root required) to keep this from being a 'shameless plug' I'll post the brief instructions, so you can skip the video if you want.
'adb shell' into your fire stick
Get your mac address with this command: settings get secure bluetooth_address
Download and install sixaxisPairToolSetup-0.3.0
Connect your controller via usb to your pc, run the tool, and change the master address to your fire stick's address
Put your dualshock4 in pairing mode and scan for bluetooth controllers with your fire stick
As soon as "wireless controller" shows up on the list DO NOT SELECT IT.
Turn off your controller by holding the (ps) button
Select "wireless controller" on your fire stick
Turn back on the controler
It should now be connected, and it will be greyed out in the list.
if it did not connect try the pairing process again, but this method worked for me on the first try.
[/LIST](the youtube video is more detailed, and has all the links, but with this post and a quick google search, you should be able to find everything you need)
(this is a copy of a redit post I made, but I just put it here, so you can find it as well)
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Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?

binary01 said:
Can this same process be followed for a PS3 remote?
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I don't believe so, the ds4 acts as a generic bluetooth controller,
the ds3/sixaxis dose not.
but feel free to try, I do not have any with me at the time, so I can not check.

have there been any updates to this? the Settings.apk is not working for me, it closes out when I attempt attach a bluetooth controller. I am trying to connect my ps4 controller through bluetooth for a lag free experience. So far after connecting it I get a ton of lag on the controller.

the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though

MrWolfman said:
the steps given by BOBdotEXE in this thread worked for me it even works the main amazon screen too its not working for all games but seems ok with the emulators though
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unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller

rrussell50 said:
unfortunately according to the link there still is lag when inputting commands (1 month ago), I am hoping someone can find a workaround for the lag issues because games are unplayable through bluetooth using a ps4 controller
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my lag isnt that bad at all tbh, i can play sonic 1 no problems, i can play nintendo emulator no problems, i think the lag may be due to the distance from the stick to the controller, my distance is about 2 metres from the stick maybe just over, if you live in a BIG house with over 5 metre distance then yes there would obviously be lag

If you need an alternative controller I have a thread for that Here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267

I haven't managed to get the ds4 paired via Bluetooth as yet but whilst trying I connected it to a powered usb hub which is connected to the stick which is rooted and has OTG enabled.
It worked immediately wired.
As soon as I pulled the cable though the stick rebooted. But if your desperate, rooted and have an OTG cable you can connect your ds4 to you fire stick.
FYI My old wired xbox 360 (afterglow) didn't work when that was connected.

Hello all. Sorry to bump this ancient thread but its the first google result when looking for help. So i had problems using my ps4 controller on my firetv myself as it appears amazon has cut support for game controllers on firetv. Lucky enough there is an easy fix.
Simply download and install Easy Fire Tools onto a smartphone.
Easy Fire Tools - Apps on Google Play
Install your favorite apps on FireTv and other android devices
play.google.com
Then download and install Bluetooth Pair
Bluetooth Pair - Apps on Google Play
Bluetooth pairing - automated. Simply turn on Bluetooth and connect!
play.google.com
Then just sideload Bluetooth Pair app to firetv and use it to connect to game controller.
This method works to where you dont need to pair the remote every time you want to use with firetv. Simply turn on and it will connect.
Cheers!

I'm having the same issue. Although I do not own a Fire TV, I have read something that sounds similar to what you have described. Please let me know if you come up with a solution.

[Q] XBOX 360 Controller

So, I seem to be the only one not able to get a 360 controller to work with my factory Fire TV. I've tried the MS wireless dongle and wireless controller and a MS wired controller. Neither respond at all. What am I missing here?

bcrosby51 said:
So, I seem to be the only one not able to get a 360 controller to work with my factory Fire TV. I've tried the MS wireless dongle and wireless controller and a MS wired controller. Neither respond at all. What am I missing here?
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I've tried a wired 360 controller on mine and it works fine (at least when running a fire tv native game).
Does the wired controller work on a PC? What firmware version are you using?

bcrosby51 said:
So, I seem to be the only one not able to get a 360 controller to work with my factory Fire TV. I've tried the MS wireless dongle and wireless controller and a MS wired controller. Neither respond at all. What am I missing here?
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after buying the microsoft wireless controller you must download and run pc software to a pc to sync the 360 remote to the dongle. once it is synced and working on the pc you can unplug the dongle and plug it into the firetv usb port. as a note, when conected to fire tv the 4 led's on the controler flash in a circle as if not connected but it actually works.

Yep. I've tried syncing it first on my pc. Both the wired and wireless work on my pc....but not the fire tv

bcrosby51 said:
Yep. I've tried syncing it first on my pc. Both the wired and wireless work on my pc....but not the fire tv
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Does a USB keyboard work on the Fire TV (just to make sure it's not the usb port)? Have you tried rebooting the Fire TV?

I assume it works, I dont have a free keyboard lying around. When I plug the wireless dongle in the light lights up and when I plug the wired controller in it lights up for a second, then the light goes out..and will not come back on.

I ordered one of the cheap 8 buck wireless dongles for the 360 controller. It quickly detected the my controller on my pc and paired up. I moved everything over to the fire tv.. Does anyone else find that the controller is very hit or miss on games? I have 3 games that say they will work with either the fire remote or a gamepad.. Crossy road, Unpossible, and Robotu. Robatu is the only one that actually works once in the game.. When out of games, the xbox controller does fine navigating evertying within the main Amazon interface. Anyone else?

Bumping.. can anyone with an xbox controller confirm / tell me if mine's just not working right- or is it also hit and miss for you on games that support the game controller?

My Xbox 360 controller works with KOTOR and Tales from the Borderlands.

Viperise152 said:
My Xbox 360 controller works with KOTOR and Tales from the Borderlands.
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The 360 controller is incompatible with KOTOR. It seems to work at first, but the d-pad is non functional which eventually breaks the game. At least you can sort of play it, though; I've had other games be completely unplayable due to the main menu not responding to the 360 controller's input.
Bottom line: The 360 controller is NOT fully compatible with the Fire TV. Amazon claims that it works (and it sort of does) but it's mostly just another example of the half-assed state of the Fire TV OS and software.

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The 360 controller is incompatible with KOTOR. It seems to work at first, but the d-pad is non functional which eventually breaks the game. At least you can sort of play it, though; I've had other games be completely unplayable due to the main menu not responding to the 360 controller's input.
Bottom line: The 360 controller is NOT fully compatible with the Fire TV. Amazon claims that it works (and it sort of does) but it's mostly just another example of the half-assed state of the Fire TV OS and software.
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Weird I still have not had any issues with mine yet. If it makes a difference I have been using both the XBox 360 console controller and a wired XBox 360 PC model controller.

Wireless 360 Controller?

I've read many posts about not being able to properly utilize the wireless Xbox 360 controller with the new Fire TV 2nd gen. Most that I've read were either never commented on again, or the individual fixed it by disabling use debugging.
I've disabled USB debugging, I am using the official wireless receiver and controller, and I have been unable to pair my 360 controller with this fire tv 2. I have tried before and after root, I've tried disabling stickmount, along with force-closing any 3rd party or unnecessary apps I've side loaded with no success.
Has anyone managed to pair these? If so, did you have trouble at first but fixed it by doing something very simple? What steps did you take?
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Seems I missed one thread stating disconnecting the Ethernet port seemed to allows the 360 controller to connect. Not ideal. Guess I'll just stick to limelight nvidia game stream.

yes, disconnect the ethernet port only use wifi then the 360 controller will be ok.

Yeah that would be my post lol
Sent from my Amazon Fire 2015

Wish I read this before spending 30 mins on a call with Amazon. Though they did say it would be fixed in the next update
Sent from my SGP512 using Tapatalk

disconnect the ethernet port to get it working really ?? - what kind of f*cked up, incompetent sh*t is that from Amazon - don't expect them to fix it quickly

I hate to hijack but since we're talking about 360 controllers, has anyone been able to get two wired 360 controllers or a wired controller and a USB mouse to run?

lightykd said:
I hate to hijack but since we're talking about 360 controllers, has anyone been able to get two wired 360 controllers or a wired controller and a USB mouse to run?
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I think all you need to do is plug in a 4 port USB hub into the USB port on the Fire TV. Then plug in your 4 Wired Xbox 360 remotes. The controller light indicator should turn on each remote letting you know which controller they are (1,2,3,4)
You can then use this for various games/emulators etc.

Working !!??
More than a year post but im try ... I have stick basic édition whit the latest update ... i try to SYNC my xbox 360 contrôler unsuccesfully !! My question is .. does my 360 contrôler are supported by fire stick or Do i need to Buy usb hub plus 360 Receiver ?
Thank for your help ?

2 USB accessories on AFTV2 at the same time?

I am trying to use a flirc remote control dongle and a xbox 360 wireless game controller (with usb receiver dongle) at the same time. I have tried 2 different USB hubs, one is a generic 4-1, and one is a amazon branded "amazon basics" 4-1 hub. Both show the same (limited) functionality, i.e. the flirc works, the xbox controller dongle gets power, but after syncing with the controller, there is no onscreen response to the controller. This lack of response is consistent with and without the flirc plugged in. If I plug the xbox dongle directly into the AFTV2, or through a short 1-1 USB extension cable, the xbox controller works perfectly.
I am hoping that there is something obvious that I am missing here. Maybe a software hack. If there is a post i missed addressing this, please feel free to unload all appropriate beratements before posting the link. Any suggestions would be welcome. I am toying with the idea of some kind of USB switch, maybe with a simple remote so my fat butt can stay seated. Thanks in advance,
-Editdroid

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I am trying to use a flirc remote control dongle and a xbox 360 wireless game controller (with usb receiver dongle) at the same time. I have tried 2 different USB hubs, one is a generic 4-1, and one is a amazon branded "amazon basics" 4-1 hub. Both show the same (limited) functionality, i.e. the flirc works, the xbox controller dongle gets power, but after syncing with the controller, there is no onscreen response to the controller. This lack of response is consistent with and without the flirc plugged in. If I plug the xbox dongle directly into the AFTV2, or through a short 1-1 USB extension cable, the xbox controller works perfectly.
I am hoping that there is something obvious that I am missing here. Maybe a software hack. If there is a post i missed addressing this, please feel free to unload all appropriate beratements before posting the link. Any suggestions would be welcome. I am toying with the idea of some kind of USB switch, maybe with a simple remote so my fat butt can stay seated. Thanks in advance,
-Editdroid
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Sounds like your hub won't supply enough power to the dongle. Does it have a secondary power source you can plug in?

No, there is no secondary power source with either hub. I have ordered a hub w/12v power source. I will update soon. Thanks for the tip!

No joy with the powered USB (3.0) hub. I did however get a strange moment while attempting to get the controller to sync, where the fire tv reported that internet connection had been lost, then popped up a dialogue showing me my connections was good. I couldn't get it to go away until i unplugged the controller.

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No joy with the powered USB (3.0) hub. I did however get a strange moment while attempting to get the controller to sync, where the fire tv reported that internet connection had been lost, then popped up a dialogue showing me my connections was good. I couldn't get it to go away until i unplugged the controller.
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That stinks, I wonder if anyone can confirm a hub working for them?