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Hero update Iminent, but now if you have ROOT!

Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
Those with root like me will not get the OTA update as ive read the firmware wont update on rooted phones. Im wondering whether people will put their chef hats on with the new update to create a rom based on it?

You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.

ammurad said:
Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
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That link makes no mention whatsoever that the update will be OTA - in fact, it says:
“HTC will be providing a software update for the HTC Hero, which will be available via the HTC website in the coming weeks.” HTC statement
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Via the website almost certainly means download and update manually. Being rooted shouldn't stop you applying the update, though you will probably lose root in the process.
Note that Google pushed OTA updates out for the G1, and the reason they didn't work on most rooted phones was because the procedure used to root the phone specifically switched off the OTA functionality to avoid the phone getting an update and losing root.
Regards,
Dave

It was confirmed prior to release that the Hero would be incapable of receiving OTA updates.

Ok thats useful information. We can just hope now that the update will get rid of the lag.

Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!

ghoonk said:
Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
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I thought it was only OTA updates that rooted phones couldn't recieve.

Biffert said:
You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
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correct me if i am wrong but even if you back up with nandroid before rooting , running the backup doesnt unroot your phone.
anyway, it is not a problem. all u have to do is just to flash the stock rom posted on this thread and then run the update if this is the case .

I don't think ROOTING is the problem. I think that some people, in the process of rooting, end up changing the recovery.img with test keys which the update may check against and prevent the update.
I updated mine using ADB and used fastboot, so I don't think I actually changed the recovery.img, so future updates will just see my phone as a 'normal' unbranded device (albeit with Superuser.apk and su.apk, and the HTC CIME)

After OTA update, We will get the Custom rom of Hero soon (Like in G1)

[Q] My Tmobile G2 new update can perm root?

Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you

Yes you will be able to perm root w/o a problem. Go to the G2 android development sections and all your answers are already there

should i get the update from tmobile after getting root
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance

You can root and go straight to a custom rom that takes those fixes and much much more. I recommend CM or Enom's for functionality or virtuous for aesthetics.

jonathann0222 said:
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
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do not update if you are rooted. it will break root

scoperyder said:
Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
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I received a new G2 last week, applied the OTA update for wifi calling, and then successfully perma-rooted using the wiki. Took about an hour to go from stock to CM 6.1.1 and overclocked to 1.51Ghz.

mdayjr said:
do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099

steviewevie said:
But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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Yeah, I think it just threw some people off with the idea of an ota on a new device. It's still the same ole 1st ota for the G2 unfortunately. Nothing to rip out or borrow...
weird that it didn't come with the ota already on the device but since android, ota's haven't been flashed on the device. nevermind, I thinking of the old wm devices... I'm a bit tired.

AT&T OTA update trying to take away my global search! How to avoid?

I'm rooted but running a stock rom. Yesterday I got a notification of an OTA update trying to be pushed to my phone. I did some reading and found out it's the fault of Apple (insert several nasty words here) forcing Samsung to remove the global search function. I've delayed it twice now by 8 hours, but it says it won't delay any more, and will automatically install in 8 hours.
What's the easiest way to circumvent this? I'm sorry if it's been answered before, but I barely have time to post this thread because my life's so busy, so please have mercy and just point me in the right direction!

Root, flash cwm and install custom rom.
Sent from my GSIII

Same happened to me yesterday. Still searching a way to avoid update..
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If you have root , install Titanium backup , and freeze "FWUpgrade 1.2.0".
If i am not mistaken that will prevent any OTA updates. Or as others said custom rom time.

I got the update but because I'm rooted, it never got pushed to the phone.
Sent from my Supercharged Inspire 4G

ghost77 said:
If you have root , install Titanium backup , and freeze "FWUpgrade 1.2.0".
If i am not mistaken that will prevent any OTA updates. Or as others said custom rom time.
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Thank you! I've frozen it and will let everyone know in a few hours if it worked. Thanks!

maxh said:
Thank you! I've frozen it and will let everyone know in a few hours if it worked. Thanks!
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You can also just take the update and replace the apk. It's linked to in the development section for root without tripping flash counter.
Life is a prison, death and release.

maxh said:
I'm rooted but running a stock rom. Yesterday I got a notification of an OTA update trying to be pushed to my phone. I did some reading and found out it's the fault of Apple (insert several nasty words here) forcing Samsung to remove the global search function. I've delayed it twice now by 8 hours, but it says it won't delay any more, and will automatically install in 8 hours.
What's the easiest way to circumvent this? I'm sorry if it's been answered before, but I barely have time to post this thread because my life's so busy, so please have mercy and just point me in the right direction!
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If you are rooted and have CWM installed, the update will be downloaded to the phone, it will restart, but it will fail to install the update as it needs stock recovery for the update to happen. Your phone will restart again saying that the update has failed and you will be back to where you started.
Source: I was rooted and I wanted to update the OTA update. There was no way I could do it with CWM installed. I had to unroot the phone to get the update and root it again.

AlwaysNoob said:
If you are rooted and have CWM installed, the update will be downloaded to the phone, it will restart, but it will fail to install the update as it needs stock recovery for the update to happen. Your phone will restart again saying that the update has failed and you will be back to where you started.
Source: I was rooted and I wanted to update the OTA update. There was no way I could do it with CWM installed. I had to unroot the phone to get the update and root it again.
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To confirm, this is exactly what happened.
Thanks!

[Q] when the 4.3 update comes, should I take the OTA

Been reading alot about HTC releasing the 4.3 update for the US HTC One.
I know work is being done to unlock and root and all that good stuff, so my question is, would it be safer to not take the update and stay on 4.2.2 and hope a exploit is found or just take the 4.3 update and also hope a exploit is found.
my worry is if I do take the 4.3 update, verizon would fix any known or unknown exploit that would unlock this phone.

steve0mac said:
Been reading alot about HTC releasing the 4.3 update for the US HTC One.
I know work is being done to unlock and root and all that good stuff, so my question is, would it be safer to not take the update and stay on 4.2.2 and hope a exploit is found or just take the 4.3 update and also hope a exploit is found.
my worry is if I do take the 4.3 update, verizon would fix any known or unknown exploit that would unlock this phone.
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Verizon was missing from the latest 4.3 tweet..... I would assume no though, dont take the update is usually the safe call.

Don't take the update because it will likely be on this forum for flashable download within hours or overnight.

Short answer: No!!!!
If you can, use logcat to grab the ota link. If not, let it download and then upload the ota zip so we can patch it over the base

steve0mac said:
Been reading alot about HTC releasing the 4.3 update for the US HTC One.
I know work is being done to unlock and root and all that good stuff, so my question is, would it be safer to not take the update and stay on 4.2.2 and hope a exploit is found or just take the 4.3 update and also hope a exploit is found.
my worry is if I do take the 4.3 update, verizon would fix any known or unknown exploit that would unlock this phone.
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Never ever ever ever take an ota. Roms will come beforehand anyways.
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Kraizk said:
Verizon was missing from the latest 4.3 tweet..... I would assume no though, dont take the update is usually the safe call.
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Didnt the blue one come with 4.3?
No, never take an ota. All you are doing is locking yourself out when you could get a custom 4.3 rom with a custom kernel which are undeniably better.

Nope. Verizon is now being targeted for Oct.

is there a way to turn off Ota updates?

I'm getting annoyed of the Ota message update on the OnePlus 3 I have tried to disable it by changing the notification settings of system update but keeps coming up and wasting battery life

Why don't you just perform the update?
Sent from my Darkside of Edge plus

Go custom rom . I unlock bootloader, twrp, custom rom since day 1

xanthrax said:
Why don't you just perform the update?
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Because I'm rooted and have twrp installed am not allways able to use a pc to re flash twrp

tuanhuy0301 said:
Go custom rom . I unlock bootloader, twrp, custom rom since day 1
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I'm waiting for a almost stable rom of android n, untill now oxygen Os is working fine on mine device

ShadowRii said:
Because I'm rooted and have twrp installed am not allways able to use a pc to re flash twrp
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Sorry for not being able to read your mind, I didn't know you're rooted, next time please be accurate , anyway...
Just update it ONCE and then perform the rooting, you don't need to to be " always " near pc
Sent from my Darkside of Oneplus 3

xanthrax said:
Sorry for not being able to read your mind, I didn't know you're rooted, next time please be accurate , anyway...
Just update it ONCE and then perform the rooting, you don't need to to be " always " near pc
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Noone said you had to read my mind why are the people in this forum so aggressive all the time I just asked a simple question, how to disable Ota updates nothing more

Unfortunately I do not have an answer to your question.
ShadowRii said:
Noone said you had to read my mind why are the people in this forum so aggressive all the time I just asked a simple question, how to disable Ota updates nothing more
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Shadow I agree with you, his response was a bit out of line. Maybe...include what Rom you are on, as some customs do have OTA updates...but I don't believe you need to go into detail about not updating.
Also, I don't believe "just update" is a valid answer. Not everyone wants or needs to update to the latest. Sometimes updates break things that are more important to a specific user than the things that it fixes.

An average user should know that it is ALWAYS recommended to update to the latest official firmware do to fixes and most important SECURITY UPDATES
Sent from my Darkside of Oneplus 3

xanthrax said:
An average user should know that it is ALWAYS recommended to update to the latest official firmware do to fixes and most important SECURITY UPDATES
Sent from my Darkside of Oneplus 3
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While it may be recommended for most users and for "security updates". It is not viable for others. Such as 3.2.4 all but killed cell reception for some users, the single most root purpose of the cell phone was no longer useable. Even worse let's say those users rely heavily on their cell for business purposes.
Now would you tell this user to stay on the latest official because if not you will not have the latest "security updates".
Either way this thread is going off topic...good talking with you.

Strictly speaking, the answer to "how to get rid of..." is definitely "update"
The answer to "how do I get rid of... I'm rooted, I want to keep... It is working fine... I used to use the latest but I've had issues and so on..." în short, "more details about issue", would have been different
Anyway, this xda it's a place full of off topic so, we're good
I'll get back in a few with an answer
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Try to freeze the system update application using titanium backup or other application
Sent from my Darkside of Oneplus 3

and btw ... the new incremental 3.2.6 brings ...
anudeeproyal said: ↑
"What is the Android security patch level in 3.2.6
1. September 2016 "