Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
Those with root like me will not get the OTA update as ive read the firmware wont update on rooted phones. Im wondering whether people will put their chef hats on with the new update to create a rom based on it?
You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
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Check out this link:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hero-update-confirmed-imminent-1852644/
Appears as though HTC are gonna address the lagginess expereinced by many (including myself) with an OTA update.
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That link makes no mention whatsoever that the update will be OTA - in fact, it says:
“HTC will be providing a software update for the HTC Hero, which will be available via the HTC website in the coming weeks.” HTC statement
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Via the website almost certainly means download and update manually. Being rooted shouldn't stop you applying the update, though you will probably lose root in the process.
Note that Google pushed OTA updates out for the G1, and the reason they didn't work on most rooted phones was because the procedure used to root the phone specifically switched off the OTA functionality to avoid the phone getting an update and losing root.
Regards,
Dave
It was confirmed prior to release that the Hero would be incapable of receiving OTA updates.
Ok thats useful information. We can just hope now that the update will get rid of the lag.
Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
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Someone needs to change the thread topic to
Hero update Iminent, but noT if you have ROOT!
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I thought it was only OTA updates that rooted phones couldn't recieve.
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You could restore a backup from a point where you had not rooted your phone yet
It basically unroots itself that way.
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correct me if i am wrong but even if you back up with nandroid before rooting , running the backup doesnt unroot your phone.
anyway, it is not a problem. all u have to do is just to flash the stock rom posted on this thread and then run the update if this is the case .
I don't think ROOTING is the problem. I think that some people, in the process of rooting, end up changing the recovery.img with test keys which the update may check against and prevent the update.
I updated mine using ADB and used fastboot, so I don't think I actually changed the recovery.img, so future updates will just see my phone as a 'normal' unbranded device (albeit with Superuser.apk and su.apk, and the HTC CIME)
After OTA update, We will get the Custom rom of Hero soon (Like in G1)
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I'm new to rooting but I rooted my EVO in June via a link posted of HTCEVOHACKS.COM and I continue to get a message to do the OTA updates. When I try to click yes it downloads but the files are then corrupted and when they try to install the phone shows a picture of the EVO and a red question mark, then it shuts off. Am I not able to get OTA updates with the EVO rooted? Since it is a new phone I would like to get some updates when glitches are found. I also want to get the FROYO update on Tuesday when Sprint releases it. Any help on how to continue to stay rooted and get updates or how to get FROYO when released by my carrier would be awesome. Again, I'm now to this so if this process could be explained in simple terms, that would help too.
Go to the dev section and download the rooted Froyo update, flash it just like any custom rom. Read in the OP it will tell you what to do and what order to do it in, presto you have all updates and still have root.
Thanks. I'm going to try that now. I guess I didn't realize that you couldn't get OTA updates after you rooted your phone.
cja1984 said:
Thanks. I'm going to try that now. I guess I didn't realize that you couldn't get OTA updates after you rooted your phone.
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You NEVER want to take an OTA after you root your phone. Most Roms will block them out now. Why you ask? because it will unroot you and then you have to wait and see when/if will be rootable with the new patch which can take a while.
So always check for updates int he dev pages for roms using the new patches when they come out, never take an OTA if you are asked, and enjoy your root
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I'm new to rooting but I rooted my EVO in June via a link posted of HTCEVOHACKS.COM and I continue to get a message to do the OTA updates. When I try to click yes it downloads but the files are then corrupted and when they try to install the phone shows a picture of the EVO and a red question mark, then it shuts off. Am I not able to get OTA updates with the EVO rooted? Since it is a new phone I would like to get some updates when glitches are found. I also want to get the FROYO update on Tuesday when Sprint releases it. Any help on how to continue to stay rooted and get updates or how to get FROYO when released by my carrier would be awesome. Again, I'm now to this so if this process could be explained in simple terms, that would help too.
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Just in case you have come trouble finding it Ill paste the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520
You definitely dodged a bullet with this one. If the OTA would have worked, you would have lost root and been stuck unless/until somebody figured out a way to root Froyo. Consider yourself lucky.
I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9AI5RM9
Thats the RUU, apply this update and you'll be completely stock 2.2
what do you mean apply I've downloaded this before I can't find the file to download and when I try to open it it says it doesn't have a program to open.
If you are rooted Most Roms will not allow an OTA to come through.
you have options the option listed above will unroot you and install 2.2.
the other option is to go to the dev forum and download a 2.2 custom rom or the rooted 2.2 stock rom. flash those and you are good to go.
I will remind that currently there is no way to root 2.2 so if you choose to go through the RUU and go to stock rom that way you will NOT be able to root at this time. It could also be WEEKS before a root method is found. I dont know why anyone would want to or would suggest doing this unless you plan to take it in to sprint for repair.
How do I apply the first file?
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I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
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No you do not need to unroot. If you accept that ota update it will take away your root because the rom it puts in isn't rooted. I happened to download and try out froyo 2.2 like 3 days ago to see how it functions. It works very well however the update killed my hotspot completely. I ended up restoring back from Froyo 2.2. I will give a link that will take you to the downloads to do it where the rom comes rooted, and the radio and wimax drivers are there as well. Here it is.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520 One thing to remember is this is not the absolute final build that is pushed out on the OTA update that they have done today. So my guess is very very soon if not already there will be a posted and rooted version of the final build. I am unsure and I am almost positive nothing is every final, but I don't know if you will be able to re-root your evo if you just accept the update from Sprint. If you no longer want a rooted phone and all you care about is getting the update, then you can or will have gotten the request today from sprint as I did or you can look for the update manually in system updates, from settings at the home page. Hope that helps and take care.
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How do I apply the first file?
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I strongly suggest you do not just get stock 2.2 because you have no idea if you will ever root again. Unless your taking it into sprint it makes no sense. I really do not want to attempt to get you that file because its a massive mistake. The download does work though i already tried it that much i can say. See if someone else will actually tell you what you need to do because i'm not sure i can bring myself to do it sorry. I am slightly unsure how you ended up rooting your phone if you are having trouble with a download that has an executable file as in you click on it and it runs If you however need help downloading or flashing or whatever the other stuff that i linked that i will definately try to assist you with. If you flash a stock rom you can and will get the message to update the system and you can manually look for it too. The roms have that disabled so people can't due to ignorance, apply the update then say, "Oh crap I am not rooted how do I fix it?", which we will see a lot of today.
Engadget states that Verizon is going to push the official 2.2 Froyo update tomorrow for all HTC incredible users.
IF this is true I have a few questions. I'm currently rooted and running Sky Raider 3.0 RC2. I did a nand backup of my old original 2.1 Stock sense rom. If i revert back to that, can I just check for updates and apply the new stock 2.2 Froyo rom that is pushed from verizon?
Thanks,
ej_424
It is true. Unlike previous rumors, VZW employees were told today (this afternoon) and it shows on their bulletin screens now.
That and sometime between 1pm and 2:30pm they updated the support page.
So who's gonna jump in and who's gonna wait?
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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Honestly.. It's pre-rooted, and is almost positively the exact same as the official OTA.. why bother?
ej_424 said:
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
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Honestly there is so much information out there. Do what I did when I first got my Incredible. Do a search, and read, read, read. Mind you when you're done your head is going to be spinning. But that is the best way to get all the information you need.
To answer your question.
it was said along time ago that accepting the 2.2 OTA may cause you to not be able to re-root.
now, unrevoked forever takes S-OFF and with this you can accept the 2.2 OTA and still keep root, it was permanent, but with the new release of S-ON there is absolutely no reason not to use S-OFF, then un-root, if you want the "official" 2.2.
I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
Mods will probably move this to Q and A,
But, you have to provide more info as what radio you are on, hboot.., etc. There are several threads started providing info as to how to prepare yourself...
I mean, the leak OTA has been ripped apart and placed all of this forum. The only thing you can get from verizon will be the satisfaction of a cool Blockbuster app and more vzw crapware, but hey if its what you want
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I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
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Skyraider pre2.0 was based off an evo port, yes. 2.0 and onward is based off the leak, hence the necessity of the radio upgrade.
Gotcha. That's what I thought, as when I installed SkyRaider 2.2, I remember getting an email saying "thanks for registering your Nexus One" or something like that... Thank you for confirming, much appreciated!
Your recovery image must be stock as well. There are several threads that provide the needed file to return the DInc back to 100% stock/pre-root (just make sure S-OFF is applied first).
Mandatory OTA?
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
I have used Unrevoked3, and Unrevoked Forever and love the phone as it is now (particularly the wifi tether). I want to avoid the OTA but do I HAVE to accept it? If I do, I hope I can reload the version I got with Unrevoked3.
(I assume that Verizon will, in their new version make you PAY to wifi tether)
Any info on this?
Thanks
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I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
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I'll be pissed if thats the case. gotta do everything all over again. But if we're already @ 2.2 shouldn't it recognize that and not force the OTA to even appear on our phones?
I'm still pretty new to this so sorry if I sound like a complete outsider lol
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
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For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
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IIRC, you will only be prompted if you have sock recovery installed. As for the OTA, it includes updates to the radio and HBOOT. The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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Not a 100% sure but I think its only if you flash a radio.diff twice you get brick.
Never the less just don't have the updated radio with old builds and stock recovery and all should be fine.
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Nope
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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That applied because the prior unrEVOked hack was simply a diff ... it patched. So if you apply the patch to the patch, THEN you brick. Flashing a wholesale radio (while higher on the danger scale) is not the same.
Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
Yes you will be able to perm root w/o a problem. Go to the G2 android development sections and all your answers are already there
should i get the update from tmobile after getting root
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
You can root and go straight to a custom rom that takes those fixes and much much more. I recommend CM or Enom's for functionality or virtuous for aesthetics.
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i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
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do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
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Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
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I received a new G2 last week, applied the OTA update for wifi calling, and then successfully perma-rooted using the wiki. Took about an hour to go from stock to CM 6.1.1 and overclocked to 1.51Ghz.
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do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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Yeah, I think it just threw some people off with the idea of an ota on a new device. It's still the same ole 1st ota for the G2 unfortunately. Nothing to rip out or borrow...
weird that it didn't come with the ota already on the device but since android, ota's haven't been flashed on the device. nevermind, I thinking of the old wm devices... I'm a bit tired.
So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
Most likely samfirmware aka sammobile will release an odin .tar, so you'll be good to go with odin.
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So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
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That's not true. You will be unable to install OTA patch-style updates if you have modified one of the files being patched. If you rooted with Auto Root and that's all you did, you will be able to install OTA patch-style updates even without unrooting (though the update will disable root)
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So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
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I'm sure there will be an ODIN update within a few days or maybe even the same day. You can also flash EK02 and let the OTA update upgrade you (or if you've just rooted with Auto Root, just let the OTA update run), though you are probably better off waiting for an update from XDA, because the updates from here will attempt to keep your rooting and upgrade options as open as possible.
I'll also probably have an OTA compliance check for the next official update so you can tell immediately which files are not in compliance with what the update expects. I have one for EG30 to EK02 as part of the Auto Root package, so it would be similar in functionality.
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
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First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
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Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
Relax427 said:
Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
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There is a thread on blocking them in the wiki, provided here for your ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778
If you are worried about the OTA messing something up, it'll download and ask to install, but if you've made any changes to your ROM, including installing CWM, then it will fail the integrity check and won't install, so nothing will change.
I don't understand the OP's dilemma. Just wait a couple of hours after the OTA update and get a rooted version of the update... no problem!
It won't be out for a few more months anyways. It isn't even being tested yet. I doubt an initial build is even at Samsung. They are working on the the Galaxy S2 right now(the GSM overseas version). And, I am sure Sprint will sell some other phone with ICS stock before they update ours.