So I recently reverted from CM13 (Marshmallow) back to 5.1.1 on Kyubi's rom. I made a ton of backups on TB in CM13 but when I go to restore them in Kyubi they hang at 0% and never load. Is this an incompatibility between the two OS's or is there something obvious that I'm forgetting to do? I could have sworn I was about to backup 5.1.1 apps and load them in 6.0, why couldn't I do it the other way around?
Thanks in advance.
xanderharris86 said:
So I recently reverted from CM13 (Marshmallow) back to 5.1.1 on Kyubi's rom. I made a ton of backups on TB in CM13 but when I go to restore them in Kyubi they hang at 0% and never load. Is this an incompatibility between the two OS's or is there something obvious that I'm forgetting to do? I could have sworn I was about to backup 5.1.1 apps and load them in 6.0, why couldn't I do it the other way around?
Thanks in advance.
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You generally don't want to use Titanium backup to restore your apps from one operating system to the other.
I'm afraid you'll have to suck it up and reload your apps again.
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I've been away for a while and I see there are updates and I'm wondering if I need to update my phone? I am running 2.2 rooted by unrevoked but I recently updated the radios.If I'm happy with my phone can I stay where I am or should I stay current or better yet does updating the radios basically keep me current but on an old version?
EVO_Radio_2.15.00.09.01
WiMAX_26023_R01
PRI_1.77_003
NV_1.77_003
2.2 Froyo rooted by unrevoked forever
Clockwork recovery
Hardware version 0002
Updating is all up to you the only things your missing out on is a few weeks I would nandroid and try a new Rom if you like it then stay with it if not nandroid back. Oh and 3.29 has fps unlocked so it tends to be faster
Edit: forgot to mention with 002 hardware 3.29 is best I recommend AZREAL 2.5, 3.30 may cause lag and problems
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Thx, So do I understand this right? I can use titanium backup to backup my apps and settings,update to a rooted 3.29 then use titanium to restore my apps. I also saw in titanium backup an option to remove non backed up apps do you or anyone have any experience with this? I understand this isn't the same as a nandroid backup I'm just trying to keep my apps and settings and all that stuff the same.
grapeape41 said:
Thx, So do I understand this right? I can use titanium backup to backup my apps and settings,update to a rooted 3.29 then use titanium to restore my apps. I also saw in titanium backup an option to remove non backed up apps do you or anyone have any experience with this? I understand this isn't the same as a nandroid backup I'm just trying to keep my apps and settings and all that stuff the same.
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Yes titanium backup will do those things but the free version only gives you one backup a day same with a restore so if you don't have the pro version you might a well fork over the six bucks for it so you can back up all your stuff as for the bloatware most custom roms already has them removed
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After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!
From reading the dev forums it seems no one else has been able to do so either. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? Is there any toggle (like compression?) that we cant use?
This is a bit of a pain but not the end of the world. Certainly makes me hesitate to mess around with new roms though if I cant go back to my solid daily without having to start from scratch.
khanam said:
After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!
From reading the dev forums it seems no one else has been able to do so either. Does anyone know what the heck is going on? Is there any toggle (like compression?) that we cant use?
This is a bit of a pain but not the end of the world. Certainly makes me hesitate to mess around with new roms though if I cant go back to my solid daily without having to start from scratch.
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I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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Thats true - I did read about that. And that would definitely explain being unable to restore a kitkat rom.
However, I cant even restore a lollipop backup after flashing a different lollipop rom! Even if they are both derived from the same FOB6 base! That is what is even more confusing. Try it - backup, wipe all the partitions except int and ext sd of course and then try to restore... it just doesnt work!
Way I dit it just use factory reset only don't wipe anything specialy internal storage and don't use format. While restoring TWRP formats partition that been restored. I'm using TWRP 2.7.2.0
I've had no problem restoring from a TWRP Backup on Lollipop numerous times.
najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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I noticed that in every folder in /data/app/ there is an apk called base and a folder lib, can i backup just the apk? Or when i need to share an apk or take an apk i need to take also rhe lib?
dugryce said:
I've had no problem restoring from a TWRP Backup on Lollipop numerous times.
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What is your TWRP version? Also, did you do any wipes before you fully restored a backup?
khanam said:
After upgrading to Lollipop FOB6 firmware using full odin and then rooting and installing TWRP, I have never been able to successfully restore a backup, ever!.
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Does yours ever end up losing touch screen sensitivity when you restore a backup? Mine always looks like it has fully restored everything, but then no response to screen taps.
senozlu1 said:
Way I dit it just use factory reset only don't wipe anything specialy internal storage and don't use format. While restoring TWRP formats partition that been restored. I'm using TWRP 2.7.2.0
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Oh I'll try this and report back. Thanks
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yummymango said:
What is your TWRP version? Also, did you do any wipes before you fully restored a backup?
Does yours ever end up losing touch screen sensitivity when you restore a backup? Mine always looks like it has fully restored everything, but then no response to screen taps.
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Mine just fails. But then again I've been wiping the partitions before restoring. Maybe that impacts it?
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khanam said:
Mine just fails. But then again I've been wiping the partitions before restoring. Maybe that impacts it?
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One of the devs, who runs the Lollipop ROM I've been using, warned against restoring data. He suggested backing up apps + data through Titanium Backup instead. Maybe it depends on the ROM?
najoor said:
I think what is going on is that the directory structure in Lollipop is a little different from the one in Kitkat. To give you an example, the user installed applications in Kitkat are placed under /data/app like this:
/data/app/com.my.application.apk
But in lollipop the same app is installed as:
/dats/app/com.my.application.apk/base.apk
So a backup taken from your data partition in Kitkat cannot be readily restored in Lollipop. The directory structure is just wrong and nothing works. The solution is for someone to ether write a conversion script or for the TWRP people to incorporate such a script in their future releases.
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Hi
I have a rooted S4 running Carbon. Im using TWRP 2.8.5.0 and can backup and restore any
KK rom with no issues. I can flash Lollipop and backup but it will not restore this backup.
Its says restore successful but then just boots back into recovery. If someone could resolve
this it would be great
Hello all,
TB doesn't seem to pick up the apk file when backing up which is quite frustrating. Does anyone have a solution?
i had backup using TWRP 2.8.7.0 my stock TW lollipop rom...Now i had flashed Dirty Unicorns v9.5...If i wanted to goto stock rom that nandroid backup wont work??? thats what people are complaining over here??
I'm wondering if I can use a Nandroid backup to restore KitKat after I flash a Lollipop update in TWRP? I need KK for work apps but wanted to play with LP at home and was just wondering if a person could flip flop back and forth using Nandriod back ups.
Also while reading to research this I saw where people were having issues flashing the LP OTA from KK 4.4.4 via TWRP because of the software was being reported as the wrong version of Android (4.4.3) on the tablet. It appears that this was resolved with the updated version of TWRP so I installed the latest version 2.8.6.0.
So will this work or am I stupid for thinking it would?
thanks,
fasthair
I think just to be safe it would be better to reflash the KK firmware and then restore from the nandroid. I've never tried it, so I could be wrong. I would wait for someone with direct knowledge of the process to chime in so you don't brick.
Obviously you'd need to backup the nandroid data somewhere other than the tablet because it would be wiped when you reflash.
Another option could be using the factory images, assuming you bootloader is already unlocked (probably is if you're rooted/etc). When I upgraded from 4.4.4 to 5.0/5.0.1/5.0.2 I removed the -w flag from the batch file that wipes data. I don't know if you can use factory images to go backwards without wiping. I know you can use the factory images to go back, but not sure if you can do it without wiping.
Again, I'd wait for someone with experience chime in before trying anything if you aren't sure.
You can go back and forth no problem. Just don't mix the system and data partitions. They need to stay together. 4.4 system files with 4.4 data files.
Aerowinder said:
You can go back and forth no problem. Just don't mix the system and data partitions. They need to stay together. 4.4 system files with 4.4 data files.
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Just so I'm clear on this "don't mix data" part. The Nandroid backup will keep these data partitions separate in the separate backup folders if I'm not mistaken correct?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
fasthair
fasthair said:
Just so I'm clear on this "don't mix data" part. The Nandroid backup will keep these data partitions separate in the separate backup folders if I'm not mistaken correct?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
fasthair
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Yes it will. I meant that if you restore the system partition (from 4.4 to 5.0 or vice versa) that you need to restore data with it (and boot).
If you were on 5.0, and wanted to go back to 4.4, but only did a restore on the system partition, you will probably bootloop.
system, data, boot all must stay together.
Why not use multirom? Works flawless for me.
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pargas said:
Why not use multirom? Works flawless for me.
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I hadn't really thought about multirom to be honest.
Thanks everyone for your replies. I flashed LP after backing up my stuff. For whatever reason I couldn't get it to flash in TWRP using the update file Google pushed to my device some time back. Even after installing the latest greatest 2.8.6.0 it still came back with the error about the wrong version (4.4.3 in my case) being on my N7. So a fresh flash of LP with a wipe and I'm good to go.
Must admit I kind of like LP all though I'm not crazy about all of the white ever where or how it a takes 3 or 4 clicks to do what was 1 or 2 clicks on KK. Plus Plus I think KK was much better to look at instead of this Material Design UI but it is what it is. Going to have to go hunting around here for a transparent theme for the Google Search so I can have my transparent search bar and app drawer back. Anyone know of one?
Anyway thanks for the help everyone,
fasthair
Hi guys,
I've got a little problem! But at first some facts:
This is what I've flashed before: the latest release of stock based KK- Rom Android Now HD
My new rom was the CM based BlissPop 2.3
On my KK Rom I backed up all of my Apps/Data with Titanium Backup. After flashing the BlissPop Rom I restored all Apps (no system apps) and data. So far so good: all apps were restored and worked. But now the issue: not all data were restored. Some apps didn't had the original data, for example profiles of games were missed etc.
U got any clue or hint whats the problem is there or how to fix it? Thx in advance!
clsmn said:
Hi guys,
I've got a little problem! But at first some facts:
This is what I've flashed before: the latest release of stock based KK- Rom Android Now HD
My new rom was the CM based BlissPop 2.3
On my KK Rom I backed up all of my Apps/Data with Titanium Backup. After flashing the BlissPop Rom I restored all Apps (no system apps) and data. So far so good: all apps were restored and worked. But now the issue: not all data were restored. Some apps didn't had the original data, for example profiles of games were missed etc.
U got any clue or hint whats the problem is there or how to fix it? Thx in advance!
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You have to restore it twice for some reason
itsbighead said:
You have to restore it twice for some reason
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mh nope, sorry, doesnt help restored data twice.. same as before.. some apps restored, some not
Hi all, is it okay to back up system apps from Marshmallow and reinstall via Titanium backup on Android N? I had problems once with an old phone when backing up and installing custom ROMS and this was the issue.
Never reinstall backups of system apps.
It's as simple as that.
Bigrrd225 said:
Hi all, is it okay to back up system apps from Marshmallow and reinstall via Titanium backup on Android N? I had problems once with an old phone when backing up and installing custom ROMS and this was the issue.
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As someone already said, just don't backup and restore system apps. And especially when you're going from one version of Android to another. A lot of he system apps are different or newer on Android N than they are on MM. You would probably just get a lot of force closes.