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Noob has the ROM flashing fever but has questions

Sorry for sounding like a noob….because I am … lol
I couple weeks ago I rooted Evo using the
SimpleRoot OTA 1.47.651.1 method
Then Installed Fully rooted stock 1.47.651.1 in one shot (no adb!)
Did nandroid backup
Then I installed Sprint Lovers ROM (including 2.05.00.06.01 wimax/baseband radios)
Been enjoying, installing apps, customizing.
Use Titanium Backup to backup regularly
Now I want to try some other ROMs like CyanogenMod-6!
I now have installed Rom Manager
Flashed ClokWorkMod Recovery (2.5.0.1)
And did another nandroid backup
So now can I just flash a different ROM, use Titanium restore to restore applications such as K-9 Mail and all my settings/accounts/etc and these will work on the new ROM?
Then if I want, I just use nandriod restore and Evo will be exactly where I am today (with Sprint Lovers)?
If so, does restoring applications/data also work backing up on a 2.1 ROM and restoring on 2.2 ROM?

For the most part, yes. But there may be some issues restoring EVERYTHING from Ti back to a different ROM. Start with just apps you need, then accounts, see how that goes. I haven't had issues, but it might just be cleaner that way, and if it's not that difficult to just set up your accounts again, you could avoid potential issues that way.
But, yes, Ti should give everything back to you after the flash. Even scenes!

Also don't forget to wipe before flashing!

Nandroid restore question

Hi,
My first post.
I recently rooted using unrEVOked 3, did a Nandroid backup right after.
I would like to unlock NAND, but want to go back to my Nandroid backup after I unlock NAND.
After unlocking NAND can I run a Nandroid restore and just use my original Nandroid backup that was rooted?

krypto1300 said:
Hi,
My first post.
I recently rooted using unrEVOked 3, did a Nandroid backup right after.
I would like to unlock NAND, but want to go back to my Nandroid backup after I unlock NAND.
After unlocking NAND can I run a Nandroid restore and just use my original Nandroid backup that was rooted?
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Yes you can BUT if you aren't currently using a rooted stock rom this is going to cause issues and the root wont have that much of an effect as you wont have superuser "app" to allow you to grant su permission.
What i suggest is downloading titanium back up and having it back up all your apps + data. it is free int he market for a basic version (the paid version is EXTREMELY worth it as it allows for auto install of apps without having to click the install and ok buttons along with a few other very nice features) once yuo have all your apps and data backed up do the full nand. Then either flash the stock rooted rom or a custom rom of your choice (lots of great choices out there we have amazing devs working with evo) and then re download titanium back up and have it install apps.
this should give you everything back how it was except you may have to reput out your widgets. Once you have everything back to where you want it (widgets all apps ok etc) on the rom you choose i would go ahead and make a new nand so that you have a fall back in the future.

Unrevoked 3 would have rooted the phone so there won't be any problem with performing a full root (I recommend simpleroot) and installing the NAND

063_XOBX said:
Unrevoked 3 would have rooted the phone so there won't be any problem with performing a full root (I recommend simpleroot) and installing the NAND
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but unrevoked doesnt install a rooted rom does it? with out a rooted rom, the market for example wont work along with a few other things. So if he is on THE stock rom and nandroids back while it will in fact work ... it will have issues functioning fully. until he upgrades to a rooted rom whether it be a stock rooted or a custom rom.
this is all not an issue obviously if he already has a rooted rom (ie stock rooted or custom) that he has flashed to the phone. then no issues nandroid away.

Question about Nandroid backup..

I'm new to Rooting and I was wondering if I flashed lets say to a new rom weather it is 2.2 or 2.1 and I don't like it or something dosen't work. Can I just flash the most current nandroid backup to return or do I have to flash the old rom that I was using then the nandroid backup on top of that ??
Using Rooted Evo with OMJ update 147.651.1

You sure can as long as the new ROM you flash is also a rooted ROM.

So basically I can jump from rom to rom to see what I like and just flash my backup to return to the original.... Cool.thanks
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Exactly
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Just returned to a nand backup last night. First time ever and worked fine...(I did a titanium backup first as had messages and app changes.)

How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone

uniquenameevo said:
How perfect, a simple search answered my exactl question.
I can run three roms and as long asI refresh my nandroids before flipping to another to restore I will miss very little. Only issue I can think of is let's say I run stock rooted for a week, and flip to a nandroid of CM6 for a week, then back to stock rooted...I would not have text messages from that time. I can fix that with TiBackup.
Am I missing anything? And, thanks to the people making me do all this stuff to my phone
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Nope you havent missed anything Thats what i do all the time I believe for a certain period of time something else backs up texts as well because i often get all my texts back after a few minutes even those after the nandroid.

I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.

All I needed to know, thanks!
I'll only rotate 2.2 roms, no need to look back, but I appreciate that note also.

fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I use MyBackup to backup APKS+DATA when jumping from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa ROMS without issue. Love it, love it.

fachadick said:
I've seen people having issues when using Titanium to restore apps and data from a 2.1 backup to 2.2 rom and vice versa. I think if you're just cycling between 2.2 roms, you should be ok though.
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I have been cycling between the 2 a LOT here is what i have found works. when you select to restore all apps/data look through the list and uncheck all the 2.1 system apps (ie checkin_update 2.1, google_search_update 2.1) once you do this you can restore everything else no problem. I have used ths method at least 10 times with no issues back and forth. If you backed up on 2.2 do the same thing just uncheck the 2.2 version of this information.

Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?

berardi said:
Can someone clarify the difference between backing up via:
#1 Nandroid
#2 Titanium Backup
What exactly is or isn't backed up? I'm assuming Nandroid misses certain things otherwise no one would use TB?
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titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.

timothydonohue said:
titanium backup is just for apps
nandroid restore is like restoring an image of your hard drive to your pc. it not only restores the apps, but the entire ROM (barring radio and wimax radio).
i.e., you have a ROM going. you use titanium backup to backup your apps. then, do a nandroid backup and flash an entire new ROM. then, you could use titanium backup to put the apps back on. then, you would use nandroid restore to go back to the old ROM, completely. with nandroid, you can flip-flop between ROMs with everything that you had when you backed it up.
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Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?

How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.

XevoX said:
How long does it take to complete a nandroid restore? I tried to restore a backup yesterday and it was taking over three hours! I said f' it and pulled out the battery, luckily I was able to boot into recovery and wipe/flash fresh's 2.2 ROM from scratch.
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Should only take 5 minutes or so, about as long as it takes to flash a new ROM.
berardi said:
Thank you so much that makes it quite clear! I was struggling with that for a while
So Titanium Backup backs things up that are generally able to be carried from one ROM to the next without problem? I noticed that it also does backup system settings (notifications, etc) which is great. These things generally won't corrupt a new ROM file right?
So with 2.2 backing up apps and their data, the main draw of TB would be the backing up of system settings?
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Yes, but it could potentially be problematic to just start restoring things in bulk from a TB backup between different ROMs, even if they are the same base build. Read flipz's rant on the subject.

Restoring NANDROID from one Desire onto another??

Hey,
Guys I had a HTC Desire (SLCD version), fully rooted, S-Off, CM7 latest nightly onboard. Now a friend of a friend of a friend, also had a Desire (AMOLED version) but it was totally stock. He offered me a really good deal to swap handsets with him since he's a total noob as far as rooting etc and Android modding is concerned and he liked my setup and all.
So I made a NANDROID backup in recovery (CMW 3.2.0.0), pulled the mem card, put in a new one for him, and handed the handset to him. Now I was quite certain that if I root, S-Off, and put in the same mem card into the new handset, i'll be able to restore my whole setup onto this new phone.
But now that I am trying to restore the NANDROID using the same recovery, same HBOOT version (0.93), same S-off state and even the very same mem card, it won't restore my ROM :s
So now I am stuck with a plain old CM7 sitting on my handset, and I have to spend a good few hours setting it up like my old handset. I also have Titanium Backup of all my apps so all my Angry Birds hi scores are safe but I just don't wanna go through the hassle of restoring about 300 apps one by one as Titanium Backup does.
When I restore the NANDROID in recovery, it restores the boot, data, and a couple other things, and then suddenly goes back to the first screen of CWM recovery. Any ideas why its doing that?
One thing I noticed, is that my backup of cache is only 25kb. I thought this was weird so I tried restoring an even older backup in which cache image was about 4mb. But that restore also crashed like above at the exact same spot. Any ideas what's going on? Or should I just go ahead an use Titanium Backup to restore apps and setup the ROM manually?

DONT restore a nandroid made on a diffrent device...
best you can do:
use titanium to backup apps (or use mybackup root)
flash same rom on new device, set it up yourself and restore apps. this will take around 30mins i guess.

dzumagos said:
DONT restore a nandroid made on a diffrent device...
best you can do:
use titanium to backup apps (or use mybackup root)
flash same rom on new device, set it up yourself and restore apps. this will take around 30mins i guess.
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Totally agree.
Swyped from my HTC Desire using XDA App

? about nandroid backup ALL appas restore if downgrade to stock rom

So I've upgraded Blazer ROM and I HATE it. My phone is running SO ****ty, so I want to do a complete restore and stick with stock rom's til I can take my phone back and upgrade to the s III. SO, my question is, will a nandroid backup done NOW be able to restore all my apps for the stock rom? Or if not what's an easy way to re-install all the apps I have now for a downgraded rom?? Does that make sense??? My brain has been fried for weeks so apologize if things aren't clear.

Not every ROM is perfect, you may want to try a more mainstream and stable ROM before giving up. To your point though...
A nandroid backup will restore everything to the exact state including the /system (ROM) and /data (apps+settings).
If you want to downgrade, the easiest way is just to sync all your apps through Google Play. Google will automatically sync apps registered to your Gmail account. You will loose all the settings this way however.
If you can flash the original ROM but leave S-OFF and retain root access, you could do a titanium backup and restore all apps + data. Another user will need to elaborate on the plausibility of this.
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Just so you know op. There is no s-off for this phone. It was never s-on
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And, just fyi, a custom recovery with advanced restore can do data restore only..
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