I was wondering how screen protectors fit on the screen. All the screen protectors I look at mention that the screen has rounded edges. Does the screen round down right at the edge or is there a little space to add a screen protector properly?
I was wondering if it's like the iPhone. I know when I try to add a screen protector to an iPhone 6 there is no wiggle room because of the way the glassrounds off right at the edge of the "screen panel"
rebretz000 said:
I was wondering how screen protectors fit on the screen. All the screen protectors I look at mention that the screen has rounded edges. Does the screen round down right at the edge or is there a little space to add a screen protector properly?
I was wondering if it's like the iPhone. I know when I try to add a screen protector to an iPhone 6 there is no wiggle room because of the way the glassrounds off right at the edge of the "screen panel"
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If you buy a good one, the screen protector ends at almost exactly where the glass curves away. I'm using Spigen's and they fit pretty nicely.
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If you buy a good one, the screen protector ends at almost exactly where the glass curves away. I'm using Spigen's and they fit pretty nicely.
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Does the glass curve away right at the end of the viewing panel/LCD screen or is there some space between the edge of the viewing panel and the curve.
It's hard to tell from the pictures and there are no stores close to me that have the HTC 10 on display so I can't even go look at one in person.
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If you buy a good one, the screen protector ends at almost exactly where the glass curves away. I'm using Spigen's and they fit pretty nicely.
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Can you send me a photo, I'd really like to see how it looks
Here is a link to a thread over in accessories about the tempered glass screen protectors. A few people have gotten them but most, if not all, report halo.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/accessories/tempered-glass-screen-protector-htc-10-t3352014
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Does the glass curve away right at the end of the viewing panel/LCD screen or is there some space between the edge of the viewing panel and the curve.
It's hard to tell from the pictures and there are no stores close to me that have the HTC 10 on display so I can't even go look at one in person.
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Can you send me a photo, I'd really like to see how it looks
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Not sure if you can see them clearly tho. In the 3rd photo you can see where the screen protector ends. And that's almost where the glass starts to curve out.
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Not sure if you can see them clearly tho. In the 3rd photo you can see where the screen protector ends. And that's almost where the glass starts to curve out.
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I feel like white is more forgiving
Thanks for the pictures. I hat how companies are rounding the screens like that. Then the screen protectors can't cover the whole glass front.
I gave up on a tempered glass one for now and not a fan of PET, went with the Unicorn Beetle case which has a built on one and its decent. atleast the whole screen is protected. I don't use the fingerprint so I wish the hole for that wasn't there to prevent and dust from getting in there but o well. Its pretty tight against the screen. but its the plastic type which always wears out fast in my experience but its great for now.
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Hey guys thought id share. If you're like me the only reason you use a screen protector is cuz you hate fingerprints. My favorite 2 are the 3m natural view and Steinheil anti fingerprint. Now the 3m one has amazing clarity but still smudges a little. But it's super easy to wipe off. It's kinda prone to scratches. Now if you don't mind losing just a little clarity and not having to worry about scratches or ever, and I mean never ever, having to wipe off fingerprints then Steinheil is the way to go.
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I love this one I used this till I found the 3m one then went back to it. Was about 10-15 I think. I forget but I found it on Amazon great buy if you ask me. Just a warning you do lose a little of that captivate clarity so if you're OK with that then this is perfect if not then I say go 3m and if you don't mind wiping a lot then leave it naked cuz nothing is hurting this glass
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After trying the Realook and being unsatisfied with the rainbow effect, I tried the SGP Anti fingerprint. IMO the loss in clarity is too much. There are tiny colour speckles everywhere!
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After trying the Realook and being unsatisfied with the rainbow effect, I tried the SGP Anti fingerprint. IMO the loss in clarity is too much. There are tiny colour speckles everywhere!
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this one has no color speckles. its pretty clear it just looks dimmed down let me see if i can take some pictures to show you.
Here's the phone with the Steinheil on. Pretty clear just not quite the same pop as without
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sure is a toss up, clearity or smudges, i guess in a way either way its a clarity issue. hmm i think i may look for a stenhil tho. ebay is good for small crap like that real cheap.
you really need the silver speaker mod tho.
Why would u want to cover such a beautiful display?
Use it Dude
I really hate smudges
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I had the Steinheil Crystal clear screen protectors before and it was impossible to get the corners and edges to stick no matter how much squeegeeing I did. They weren't cheap either. Currently have AT&T ones and I like them, although there is some rainbowing.
never been a big fan of screen protectors but this may change my mind. thanks!
I've had 3 Captivates now and all have run the simple protectors you can buy at AT&T stores.
They're easily installed and if the screen is cleaned 100% before installation, they are completely transparent - I don't know why anti-smudge is a 'feature', as you don't see the smudges when the screen is ON and if you see 'em when the phone is asleep, wipe 'em off.... Plus, I've never been a fan of the protectors that need to be squeegeed on. I've seen the videos where people are wetting down their screens and that crap just scares me doing it with electronics.
My $.02.
So going to bring back this thread...
I had a Reallook screen protector and well, so called anti-fingerprint >.>
What should I buy for my next screen protector? The SGP anti-fingerprint which I heard is real anti-fingerprint, or the ultra crystal clear for $2 more?
skinomi > all
very good clarity, self heals all the bubbles and **** after 1-2 days of installing, they even have a full body skin you can get for the captivate so nothing gets scratched, good easy grip rubber feel and it comes out of the pocket easy still. smudging is minimal
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I had the Steinheil Crystal clear screen protectors before and it was impossible to get the corners and edges to stick no matter how much squeegeeing I did. They weren't cheap either. Currently have AT&T ones and I like them, although there is some rainbowing.
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Same problem here. Normally steinheil are great but i am waiting for my third set in the mail because it wont stick on the edges.
awesome. thanks for sharing.
I use the att ones. Nice and clear. And hard to scratch!
Preface; I have bought screen protector from them before or or more and I liked them. So, that is why i bought more of there products. These were a hopefully mistakes.
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/htc/one-x/htc-one-x-ultra-thin-air-series.html
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/ht...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
I know the case is nice except the fact that it doesn't fit right. The holes for the camera and the flash are not aligned and the top of the case doesn't go on properly.
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Here is one pic that shows it well.
Now for the screen protector. I am not sure if they are made to not cover the whole screen from side to side, but I would have thought so. These screen protectors are pretty think to not have it go from side to side because I think you would run into touch sensitivity problems right at the edge of the screen.
Here it is actually against the edge of the glass on one side of the phone.
Here is an album of few more pictures of the case and screen protectors.
Like I said though, I would have really loved this case if it fit right. It is really thin and doesn't really change much about the phones area.
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Preface; I have bought screen protector from them before or or more and I liked them. So, that is why i bought more of there products. These were a hopefully mistakes.
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/htc/one-x/htc-one-x-ultra-thin-air-series.html
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/ht...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
I know the case is nice except the fact that it doesn't fit right. The holes for the camera and the flash are not aligned and the top of the case doesn't go on properly.
Here is one pic that shows it well.
Now for the screen protector. I am not sure if they are made to not cover the whole screen from side to side, but I would have thought so. These screen protectors are pretty think to not have it go from side to side because I think you would run into touch sensitivity problems right at the edge of the screen.
Here it is actually against the edge of the glass on one side of the phone.
Here is an album of few more pictures of the case and screen protectors.
Like I said though, I would have really loved this case if it fit right. It is really thin and doesn't really change much about the phones area.
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uh...the screen protector was meant to be that way
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Kevin Ma said:
uh...the screen protector was meant to be that way
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Do they all not go to the edges? That seems very odd to me and would make it to easy to peel up I would think with how think this is. Not to mention you need to touch where that is. Especially with the Browser lab side touch thing.
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Do they all not go to the edges? That seems very odd to me and would make it to easy to peel up I would think with how think this is. Not to mention you need to touch where that is. Especially with the Browser lab side touch thing.
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The screen of the HOX curves on the edges so screen protectors would bubble up if they were edge to edge.
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Do they all not go to the edges? That seems very odd to me and would make it to easy to peel up I would think with how think this is. Not to mention you need to touch where that is. Especially with the Browser lab side touch thing.
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if u want it to go all the way, try the skinomi wet application ones. they go all the way
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My SGP Air case fits fine. Maybe you got a fake one? There should be a serial number inside the case, you can go here to authenticated.
The screen protector problem is well known and widely covered by the screenprotectors thread. Research helps an insane lot sometimes...
As said before, the best available screenprotector that covers the whole screen is the wet application Skinomi (techskin). Most dry application ones don't cover the screen because they don't like the curved edges of the screen, they're too stiff and don't have enough adhesive power to stay on properly.
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Preface; I have bought screen protector from them before or or more and I liked them. So, that is why i bought more of there products. These were a hopefully mistakes.
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/htc/one-x/htc-one-x-ultra-thin-air-series.html
http://www.spigen.com/cell-phone/ht...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
I know the case is nice except the fact that it doesn't fit right. The holes for the camera and the flash are not aligned and the top of the case doesn't go on properly.
Here is one pic that shows it well.
Now for the screen protector. I am not sure if they are made to not cover the whole screen from side to side, but I would have thought so. These screen protectors are pretty think to not have it go from side to side because I think you would run into touch sensitivity problems right at the edge of the screen.
Here it is actually against the edge of the glass on one side of the phone.
Here is an album of few more pictures of the case and screen protectors.
Like I said though, I would have really loved this case if it fit right. It is really thin and doesn't really change much about the phones area.
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Is yours the international version or USA and canada version? Some cases are made to fit the international and to fit the USA.
http://www.amazon.com/i-Blason-Prot...d=1368499998&sr=8-2&keywords=HTC+one+i-blason
http://www.i-blason.com/bubble-free-scree-protector-for-htc-one.html
This screen protector looks very interesting, and the fact that it's reusable makes it that much more appealing. I always seem to have a problem installing screen protectors on my phones, and the HTC One was no exception. I'm wondering if anyone would be kind enough to review and post pictures of the phone with this protector on.
It reminds me of the Moshi i-Visor screen protectors for the iPhone 4/4s/5. It seems that this screen protector offers scratch protection around the phone's black bezel portion as well as its screen. There are no pictures other than the stock photo posted on the website so I'm wondering if the black border is see-through or if it completely shields the capacitive home and back buttons as well as the HTC logo. That might be the only no-go for me.
Looks promising. How does it compare to the tempered glass protector from SGP?
http://mobile.brando.com/Brando-Wor...Rounded-Edition-HTC-One-_p09603c1619d008.html
It needs a firmware update to work but does that apply to the i-Blason as well? Doesn't it cover the touch sensitive buttons?
I just ordered one today should be getting it tomorrow I'll post pics and a quick review.
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I got it a day late than promised as the description says it takes seconds to install, it fits great on the screen has cutouts for the buttons and logo the only thing it has a not so HD finish, has a huge impact on the ones great display
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u can see the bottom cutouts. the one on the right has the screen protector
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wait, so it doesn't have a blk border that covers the capacitive area?
The picture they show makes it look like it has a blk border and covers the whole screen area and blacks out the capacitive buttons.
Son of A... That the only reason I ordered it.
Why couldnt HTC make the buttons invisible when the backlight is off like on the S3 and 4? Makes it not look so outta place when using on softkeys.
Thank you Jrtedz, and welcome to XDA!
The screen protector does look nice, but the fact that it only covers the screen is unusual.
I already have a screen protector on so I may pass on these screen protectors.
When you say it makes the screen not-so-HD, what do you mean? Does it make the screen appear grainy?
I've ready a few reviews that this screen protector has that sort of problem.
Anyways, appreciate the short review and pics, you deserve a cookie lol.
Thanks and yeah pretty much has a grainy finish to it didn't really like so I'll wait till the tempered one comes in
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Am I the only one who noticed that in their picture they used an evleaks leaked promo shot of the One?
Mine came in today I want my money back.
So you can get an idea what screen protector actually looks like.
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Mine came in today I want my money back.
So you can get an idea what screen protector actually looks like.
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Cool. Thanks for the headsup. I read your previous comment from the other day and understand what you mean. Its disappointing that they didn't provide the product that they pictured. I also noticed the evleaks watermark, so obviously something was up there too.
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Looks promising. How does it compare to the tempered glass protector from SGP?
It needs a firmware update to work but does that apply to the i-Blason as well? Doesn't it cover the touch sensitive buttons?
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Hi, I actually ordered Brando's tempered glass protector and I tried on my One already... but I was very disappointed coz the Back and Menu key are not functionable at all :crying:
Then I email them to ask for solution or properly a refund, but they told me to update the firmware..... Actually, I'm using Trickdroid 5.5.4 at that moment, how come still not working?! So, I try to ask them for refund but no replies at all until now.....
The long search for a good tempered glass screen protector has an end. This protector fits perfectly, without bubbles and feels very good.
Link:
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=281856280418&alt=web
Package include:
1x Tempered Glass (color as choose)
1x Dry Cleaning Cloth (free)
1x Wet Cleaning Cloth with alcohol (free)
1x Dust - absorber (free)
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Any idea if spigen Rugged armor case fits with this TG??
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It is the same as mocolo and flosmall?))
You have a kind of weird reflection pein in the middle of the screen when you put the full light ?
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It is the same as mocolo and flosmall?))
You have a kind of weird reflection pein in the middle of the screen when you put the full light ?
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No I don't have that issue
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No I don't have that issue
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Did urs work fine with normal tempered glass, I have the same as that guy, random rainbow in middle
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Did urs work fine with normal tempered glass, I have the same as that guy, random rainbow in middle
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I have only a rainbow on the screen after a rainy day
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Any idea if spigen Rugged armor case fits with this TG??
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I think so, because it's only 0,3mm thick.
How is it holding up so far? Are the edges of the protector lifting up, because of the X's curved screen?
I read that Mocolo and Frosmall are fingerprint and oil magnets, how's this one?
Does it fit good with the TPU case that came with the phone?
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How is it holding up so far? Are the edges of the protector lifting up, because of the X's curved screen?
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I don't know how it works. But the edges are not lifting up, see my pictures.
Is this 2.5d? From the ebay description it doesn't look like it. Are the edges of the screen protector sharp or rounded off?
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Is this 2.5d? From the ebay description it doesn't look like it. Are the edges of the screen protector sharp or rounded off?
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They are rounded off. What do you mean with 2.5d?
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They are rounded off. What do you mean with 2.5d?
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This is what I mean by 2.5d.
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This is what I mean by 2.5d.
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Than it's 2.5D because it's a little bit rounded off.
But isn't the original tempered glass and the other ones made not to cover the entire screen for a reason? For example - the edges of the protector lifting up after some weeks of using it? I cant belive that they are made that way by a design error, or not?
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But isn't the original tempered glass and the other ones made not to cover the entire screen for a reason? For example - the edges of the protector lifting up after some weeks of using it? I cant belive that they are made that way by a design error, or not?
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I have no idea mate why the original tempered glass is ****ed up. But with this glass, you have no bubbles or liftings in the edges.
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I have no idea mate why the original tempered glass is ****ed up. But with this glass, you have no bubbles or liftings in the edges.
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Hi OP,
I have ordered this one. After trying a few, all of which failed this one should work, this one is better anyway b/c it pretty much covers the front (as opposed to the others e.g. official/nillkin).
Should arrive around the middle of March, can't wait! :fingers-crossed:
Edit: BTW how was the application process, easy/difficult? Any issues I should be aware of?
Just got confirmation that my white version of this screen protector arrived, ill post pictures when i get around to installing it (might wait due to the glass screen protector i have on is still good enough to use for a bit longer so dont want to waste it lol)
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Hi OP,
I have ordered this one. After trying a few, all of which failed this one should work, this one is better anyway b/c it pretty much covers the front (as opposed to the others e.g. official/nillkin).
Should arrive around the middle of March, can't wait! :fingers-crossed:
Edit: BTW how was the application process, easy/difficult? Any issues I should be aware of?
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Hi. No they're no problems with the application process. I don't know why, but you don't need to prune or push bubbles away with your fingers or a card, because after it was launched on the screen you don't see air under the glass.
The delivery time is not as long as described, the package arrived me after 2 weeks.
Alright screen protector but the white color has some visible bubbles in the white (can see in pictures) and the screen protector has a black border that covers a small small amount of the screen, but other then that it fits good and covers most of the screen unlike others but if I get it again I'm going with the black colored one.
(Also i got mime off of Amazon through prime)
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Anyone have suggestions for this device when it comes to screen protectors? Sorry if this isn't the right area to post this question but.... it's a relatively new model and doesn't seem to have it's own forum section unless I'm mistaken!
Tried a film protector and it bubbled and scratched extremely easy, looked awful after just one week of use.
Ordered a glass protector, only to discover today that the screen on this actually is curved slightly..... I could rant about the poor design choice of that, but that's not the point. The protector doesn't fit well on it and leaves the sides of the protector sort of unstuck, so there's an unsightly stripe down the center. I removed it and the screen is currently bare, because it just looked absolutely terrible.
The phone itself is great, just that there's not very good cases for it yet (that I've seen), the one I have isn't exactly going to do much to protect the screen if it faceplants. And the protectors I've tried have been terrible.
What do any of you recommend for this? Will I have to go film? And are there good film protectors that perhaps are more resistant to bubbling/scratching? This is the Sony XA2 H3123, not the ultra.
https://www.imak-hk.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=3146:good:
I'd like to know how the Imak one works, I don't think I saw any reviews of it when I was trying to order one. I got a cheapie from amazon first, it was glass and didn't accommodate the curved glass at all, causing it to be about 1/4 inch short on both sides from the edges, and even then the edges didn't stick.
right now I'm using (amazon link) http://a.co/de99wiN and the glass is curved to fit the screen well, size is good...they only used adhesive in a ring around the edge it seems so you get a ring near edge of the screen. Was hoping selection improves later also.
also, I figure this probably belongs in the accessories not questions but I'm not a mod so...
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right now I'm using (amazon link) http://a.co/de99wiN and the glass is curved to fit the screen well, size is good...they only used adhesive in a ring around the edge it seems so you get a ring near edge of the screen. Was hoping selection improves later also.
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Is there a chance for pictures of how this screen protector looks? Thanks in advance!
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Is there a chance for pictures of how this screen protector looks? Thanks in advance!
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Sorry in advance if these pictures take a long time to load on slow connections...if people still suffer from those. You were warned.
with amazon cheap tpu case:
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Particularly with the screen on, you can see a ring around the border of the screen. This appears to be the only location the adhesive is applied to hold the protector on the screen. It looks like some dust is working it's way through the camera hole and getting between the phone screen and glass protector.
This one did take 2 weeks to get to me direct from china, but this bothers me less than the one amazon had 1 or 2 day prime that left 1/4" unprotected around the edges. The price was ok, I'll probably look to replace this later down the road when there are some better options.
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also sorry if I confused things earlier, with any of my posts, I may have missed OP was asking about non-ultra version. hopefully the content is still relevant. I have the H3223 xa2 ultra.