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Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
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Great idea. I have a question: What happened to Mr. Highway?
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The Archangel said:
I'm still here, just changed my name.
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Good to hear you are still around dude, this forum can't afford to lose mod's like you.
On another note, I am really hoping ppl start to calm down in the development forums. I have never witnessed anything like this on XDA before. Constant sniping is a pure waste of everybody's time and does nothing for development or enjoyment of this site. I would be interested to hear if anyone has some "positive" ideas on how to improve the situation?

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thanks
all of the mods here for the S3 are working on something special
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Well, I look forward to seeing the finished product. Thanks.

GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions

andrewnelson23 said:
GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions
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1. people who are rude and ignorant.
2. Use the no trip root method and everything should be fine. Tripping a flash counter is a way for att/samsung to know that you messed with your phone, it can be a problem for warranty returns, but there is an app called triangle away that should reset this. I havent tried it so I personaly cannot confirm.
3. there was a little bit of argument on which recovery was better when there was the missing imei problem, now that it is solved it doesn't really matter (all personal preference). But please don't forget to do a NV backup or at least a backup of your Imei no.
and by the way welcome to xda it is a great place for information and if you do searches first and post in the propper section the people here are great.

Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?

NightSkylar said:
Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?
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One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.

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One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.
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Yes I must agree with you there, the ringtone selection wasn't what I had hoped for. Luckily they're apps which help resolve this issue

David Dee said:
Perfect place to post, good to see someone else joining myself and Archangel in this chat thread. Here are my answers to your questions:
1. Troll - Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Flaming - Hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity.
2. If you trip the flash counter and take your phone in for warranty work, Samsung will know you have flashed unsigned firmware on your phone and may deny your warranty claim. There is a working method in place to reset your trip counter back to zero but it costs a few bucks. If you root and install a custom recovery (cwm or twrp) using this method, then flash all roms using that recovery, you will not trip the counter.
3. This is up for debate, so here are the facts. CWM is the recommended recovery for most custom roms and many developers will not provide support if you flash using another recovery. On the other side of the coin, a number of people have lost their imei flashing roms (phone cannot connect to cellular network), and a theory exists that cwm may be the culprit as no one using any other recovery has experienced this loss. I personally use twrp, a touch based recovery alternative to cwm, works well and gives me comfort on the imei issue.
One more item: If you are planning to flash custom roms, make sure to backup your imei using this method. Restoring these backups has been proven to fix the issue.
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Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.

andrewnelson23 said:
Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.
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No, backups are incompatible between twrp and cwm. I have done all of my flashing with twrp, problem free.
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Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.

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Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.
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You can only really see the pentile pattern if you actively look for it. It was far worse on my old Captivate because the resolution was much lower; on the S3... i haven't noticed it casually, but if I get up real close and examine the diff between red/green/blue diagonal lines, I can still see the crosshatch diff in red and blue (green is solid).
Much ado over nothing. Samsung said they returned to pentile for the S3 (vs nonpentile in the S2) because the screen lasts longer. I'm fine with that.
EDIT: And because this is OFF-TOPIC, let me just add........ Marklar marklar marklar?! Marklar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
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I watched a simulation video of its landing sequence, and it blew my mind.
Herp derp SGS3 Tapatalk 2

that stuff is crazy!!! Those guys are all SO smart. wonder if any of them hang out on the forums.

Where do you guys get authoritative information about Android flashing/modding/development? Like, where does a developer go?
I've read about 10 explanations of deodexing and, while I totally get the "concept," I have lots of little questions questions (are new apps also de-odexed? how can only the first boot slow? someone said they d/l'd regular files and de-odexed himself?!). All the guides explain it simplistically. Where can I find the nitty-gritty and technical explanations of these things? Some super-guide? I don't mind reading 100 pages, as long as it's thorough and authoritative.
I used to mod Sony Ericssons and, while a little difficult, there was one flashing tool, maybe 5 skins for your media player, three or four I-know-what-I'm-doing developers, and we "rooted" using a brute-force method that took sometimes 15 hours. And there was no nitty gritty, really, because, if you could edit an XML file, you were close to the end of our knowledge, haha.

Off topic
What's be happening, Romney's new VP, Mars pics..........rooted my Galaxy SIII but still running stock rom as I like it. :laugh:

10-4, luv my Galaxy!
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Today the forums that I mark as read go back to unread. Anyone else seeing this? I also noticed that the Accessories forum under all variants always appears as read while it still has unread threads, but I assume this is because it's shared forum for all the variants... right?

NexusMod for the Galaxy Note II

Hey dudes, it's Bry from the AT&T Galaxy S III and Skyrocket threads, I'm the lone wolf developer of the NexusMod series of ROMS. I currently have a Galaxy S III, but I've been extremely envious of the quad-core 5.5 inch beast of a phone that goes by the name, Samsung Galaxy Note II. I've been wanting to get my hands dirty on some new material to work on, so i thought about it, and decided i'm going take the leap to the Note 2 pretty soon. I mean, why not?
Basically what NexusMod is, for people that aren't familiar with it, is a modified stock TouchWiz ROM made to look as AOSP as possible, giving it that AOSP look and feel, while keeping all of those useful Samsung TouchWiz additions completely intact. *cough cough S-Pen* Here are Some examples of my previous work.
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I've already got my feet in the water, and i'm working on a build for the i317 i plan to release to a private tester as we speak. I don't have a n2 yet, but if i sell my s3 i'd get at most $500 from it (I got it replaced, it's in mint condition with a lot of accessories), and i'm give or take $200 short of the $700 the n2 would cost me including the tax. Once i get those $200 i'll get the device and that will sure make it easier and faster to bring NexusMod to this device. :good:
Just to clear some stuff up, Donations aren't necessary. I'm still going to build the ROM regardless, being a student it's just going to take a while longer to save up and buy it myself, probably by the end of the year. I was just putting this out there as a fair warning to prepare your body.
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Sign me up!!! Nexus mod on the skyrocket was a very stable rom. Would love to see it here
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This guy right here. Nexusmod has been one of my favorite roms on the skyrocket. Nexusmod on the note 2 would be all kinds of amazing.
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A bit curoius as to why you would ask others for donations here..When viewing your topics and post you've sold 2 phones this year and trying to sell your third phone (current) device now... Your credibility shows you'd sell it within a matter of time and move on like the rest of them...Not to be a **** but recent post dont lie. Just confused here?

I get your reasoning, i don't NEED the device i'm just not satisfied enough with my s3 which i haven't had long to the point where i don't feel the desire to develop for it and want to move on from it. My first device, the Skyrocket i spent plenty time (a year) with, and i supported it and released many ROMS for it over that time...

M0D1441 said:
I get your reasoning, i don't NEED the device i'm just not satisfied enough with my s3 which i haven't had long to the point where i don't feel the desire to develop for it and want to move on from it. My first device, the Skyrocket i spent plenty time (a year) with, and i supported it and released many ROMS for it over that time...
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Ide give you 30 bucks for it. That's what they are going for at Walmart on black Friday.

dafoxs said:
Ide give you 30 bucks for it. That's what they are going for at Walmart on black Friday.
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Contract isn't up until June 19, 2013. I'm buying full price if i do

dafoxs said:
Ide give you 30 bucks for it. That's what they are going for at Walmart on black Friday.
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Damn!! Is that with a contract upgrade..I assume?
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wish777 said:
A bit curoius as to why you would ask others for donations here..When viewing your topics and post you've sold 2 phones this year and trying to sell your third phone (current) device now... Your credibility shows you'd sell it within a matter of time and move on like the rest of them...Not to be a **** but recent post dont lie. Just confused here?
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Just to clear some stuff up, Donations aren't necessary. I'm still going to build the ROM regardless, being a student it's just going to take a while longer to save up and buy it myself, probably by the end of the year. I was just putting this out there to see if there were individuals ecstatic for a ROM like mine and would help me out a little to get ahold of the device quicker, since that will significantly increase my development efficiency.

cdshepherd said:
Damn!! Is that with a contract upgrade..I assume?
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Yep.
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As soon as cm releases there version, the flood gates will open
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Hey Mod glad your making your way to the Note 2...Ive used your roms before and loved them....but this is good news for the Note 2 cant wait till you get here man to take this phone to the next level....And btw everyone vote yes on the poll for nexus mod...if you never used his rom youll love it when you try it....

Do what I did. Call at&t complain that you have been having issues with you phone or something and request they allow you to upgrade to a new phone (note 2). Got mine for 300 my nearest upgrade was dec 2013.
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M0D1441 said:
...but it would be awesome if i could be helped out a little to help me support the Note 2 community and make it easier to bring NexusMod to this device, what do y'all think?
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I have to say, I'm generally opposed to people who outright ask for "donations" in exchange for development work. To me, it sounds too much like "pay me to develop for this device."
I realize that you've stated that you'll develop for it even if you don't get donations, but it still makes me uncomfortable when someone actively asks for a donation.
If you aren't selling your development services, I wonder what will happen if you end up profiting from the eventual sale of the note2. Will you split up the excess money and give it back to the people who helped you buy the phone? If so, it might help to make people feel more comfortable about this.
I'm not in any way trying to start any type of argument here. In fact, I'm trying to head one off by asking the hard questions and getting it settled early.
Take care
Gary

kleeman7 said:
Do what I did. Call at&t complain that you have been having issues with you phone or something and request they allow you to upgrade to a new phone (note 2). Got mine for 300 my nearest upgrade was dec 2013.
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I just sent him a pm saying the exact same thing you said. . Lol. :thumbup:
And he's right you got your phone before I did I bought me and my wife's in March 2012 And I was having difficulties and asked for a early upgrade as well for just my line. .They gladly let me purchase the note 2 for 300 bucks sold my ATT note 1 for 300 and so it didnt cost me a penny out of pocket.
Sell your s3 for 300 if you can and get the early upgrade. There's a whole thread in the general thread about this in the orginal att note 1 section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893272

If anyone else has anything bad to say please don't it, and stop bashing my thread with negative reviews and downvoting the poll just because you can. I'm upset i got such negative feedback for speaking what was my mind, thanks.
And forget anything i said about helping me buy the device, i'll get the money myself eventually, now please let's get it together.
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M0D1441 said:
stop bashing my thread with negative reviews and downvoting the poll just because you can. I'm upset i got such negative feedback for speaking what was my mind, thanks.
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That's not fair to people. The poll asks if someone is interested. If they aren't, why wouldn't they vote "no"? I'll freely admit that I voted "no" as I'm not interested. I'm not interested in any custom firmware right now other than the changes I've made myself. That's not a negative review or negative feedback. It's an honest answer to an honest question.

"just because you can"
You had a reason. you didn't vote what you voted just because you could or pissed i was bribing for money.

Awesome to hear you're bringing Nexus Mod over! I look forward to seeing it in action!
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Used the nexus Mod on the Skyrocket it was a super nice rom with the stock features.....i would love to it ported/reworked here.
I will check the funds and see if i can shoot something your way Bruh.....Good luck.

Wait. So you are going to produce a stock amdroid ROM that still includes all of the s-pen & multi Window features? My body is ready.
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No more root

Hello, between 20170114 and 20170117 version, I lost root and don't know what to do.
I tried with supersu, with recovery zip file, but nothing solved.
I reinstalled (dirt way too) 20170114 and root is here again.
Sm-n9005 (hlte Samsung note 3 international), crister12's work
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Being worked on, I reckon. https://review.lineageos.org/#/c/154019

Thanks for your reply
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If you build the rom it's simple you have to add export WITH_SU=true to your envsetup.sh

I'd love to, but I don't know how to
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Relax, it's there (sort of)
** "Root will be a downloadable zip based install similar to gapps installation (only need to flash it once)." **
The zip root package will probably be up shortly after all the initial builds get loaded.
If folks were willing to wait a month for the ROM, waiting a day or two more to root it doesn't seem unreasonable. Besides, if you are using things such as Google Pay, first, via con Dios, and second, it usually won't work on a rooted device anyway. About the only thing I would REALLY miss with an un-rooted Lineage OS build would be the use of Titanium Backup, but since it takes about 3 minutes for TWRP to do a Nandroid of the whole thing it is a tradeoff that I for one would be willing to live with.

nezlek said:
** "Root will be a downloadable zip based install similar to gapps installation (only need to flash it once)." **
The zip root package will probably be up shortly after all the initial builds get loaded.
If folks were willing to wait a month for the ROM, waiting a day or two more to root it doesn't seem unreasonable. Besides, if you are using things such as Google Pay, first, via con Dios, and second, it usually won't work on a rooted device anyway. About the only thing I would REALLY miss with an un-rooted Lineage OS build would be the use of Titanium Backup, but since it takes about 3 minutes for TWRP to do a Nandroid of the whole thing it is a tradeoff that I for one would be willing to live with.
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not on my s3. lol.

OK, maybe not THREE minutes
Sal82,
Well, OK. Four? Five? Even my most loaded device takes not much more than five. Guess I'm a lightweight user after all. In the worst case I'll start the backup before going to sleep. Surely it would be done in time for breakfast. :cyclops:
(laughter is always better when it is shared)
I am just amazed at the number of folks seemingly lining up to say "build for me" as opposed to those asking how they can contribute, as well as the folks bristling at the notion that the builds will not be delivered with the features they want. Poor babies. Life is tough, and them that wants for free have a certain level of audacity in thinking they can dictate terms to a very hard working group of people who are busting their butts to get this thing moving, and not charging a red cent for all of their hard work. The malcontents could always just download the not yet built source versions, add the root capability - there ARE instructions after all - build the ROM from scratch and have what they want. Personally, I'm not THAT good at doing certain things yet, so I am willing to wait patiently and offer what services I CAN perform to support the effort. The old CM builds rescued two devices for me - one from pretty much dead brick useless and the other from a vendor who thought all my private data should go to a server in China without my consent, so I'm just plain appreciative :good:

nezlek said:
Sal82,
Well, OK. Four? Five? Even my most loaded device takes not much more than five. Guess I'm a lightweight user after all. In the worst case I'll start the backup before going to sleep. Surely it would be done in time for breakfast. :cyclops:
(laughter is always better when it is shared)
I am just amazed at the number of folks seemingly lining up to say "build for me" as opposed to those asking how they can contribute, as well as the folks bristling at the notion that the builds will not be delivered with the features they want. Poor babies. Life is tough, and them that wants for free have a certain level of audacity in thinking they can dictate terms to a very hard working group of people who are busting their butts to get this thing moving, and not charging a red cent for all of their hard work. The malcontents could always just download the not yet built source versions, add the root capability - there ARE instructions after all - build the ROM from scratch and have what they want. Personally, I'm not THAT good at doing certain things yet, so I am willing to wait patiently and offer what services I CAN perform to support the effort. The old CM builds rescued two devices for me - one from pretty much dead brick useless and the other from a vendor who thought all my private data should go to a server in China without my consent, so I'm just plain appreciative :good:
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more like 15-20 minutes. but i'm not complaining. i have an abundance of patience. you have to be patient when dealing with older devices.
and i also agree with you. your wife/girlfriend won't cheat on you(with me ) if you need to flash another zip to gain root access.
i'm PATIENTLY waiting for the zip file.

We can root with phhs superuser

ludwiglaisne said:
Hello, between 20170114 and 20170117 version, I lost root and don't know what to do.
I tried with supersu, with recovery zip file, but nothing solved.
I reinstalled (dirt way too) 20170114 and root is here again.
Sm-n9005 (hlte Samsung note 3 international), crister12's work
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Flash magisk v10.2

This root business was handled badly... users are upset, other developers are upset. I am not going to give my analysis unless specifically asked.
However, I have a few questions regarding this, and I hope someone can kindly answer them.
So, I am on d2att (Samsung Galaxy S3 - ATT) with LOS 14.1 and gapps
I flashed experimental build, rebooted, then, flashed the only LOS build for my device so far. I lost root.
I flashed supersu from here: https://download.chainfire.eu/1021/SuperSU/SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-SR3-20170114223742.zip. Of course, it did not work. I uninstalled it.
There is some whoha about Chainfire selling SuperSu to CCMT: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54xdmp/ccmt_who_exactly_are_the_owners_of_supersu/ So, now I could have untrustworthy files/access to my device, right? What do I do now -- Wipe clean and use ODIN to flash a clean ROM?
And that ROM would be to either go back to CM13 (last release) or build my own LOS ROM (with SU), right?
Now, I am hunting for root access (I don't know enough) Phh's SU on f-droid, Okay... what do I need to do? Some one posted instructions on reddit not to delete dalvik-cache after installing Phh's SU or do other things as they are risky... at this point, I don't know enough and not sure where to look. All in all, as I said before, root business was handled badly!

goodflood said:
This root business was handled badly... users are upset, other developers are upset. I am not going to give my analysis unless specifically asked.
However, I have a few questions regarding this, and I hope someone can kindly answer them.
So, I am on d2att (Samsung Galaxy S3 - ATT) with LOS 14.1 and gapps
I flashed experimental build, rebooted, then, flashed the only LOS build for my device so far. I lost root.
I flashed supersu from here: https://download.chainfire.eu/1021/SuperSU/SR3-SuperSU-v2.79-SR3-20170114223742.zip. Of course, it did not work. I uninstalled it.
There is some whoha about Chainfire selling SuperSu to CCMT: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/54xdmp/ccmt_who_exactly_are_the_owners_of_supersu/ So, now I could have untrustworthy files/access to my device, right? What do I do now -- Wipe clean and use ODIN to flash a clean ROM?
And that ROM would be to either go back to CM13 (last release) or build my own LOS ROM (with SU), right?
Now, I am hunting for root access (I don't know enough) Phh's SU on f-droid, Okay... what do I need to do? Some one posted instructions on reddit not to delete dalvik-cache after installing Phh's SU or do other things as they are risky... at this point, I don't know enough and not sure where to look. All in all, as I said before, root business was handled badly!
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I am not getting how this was "handled badly". You have to flash an extra zip file ONCE.

Must have missed the memos
Handled badly? PUH...leeze.
I have lost track of the number of: "this is done totally at your own risk" notifications that appear on this web site.
ALL of the root-related issues have been SO CLEARLY SPELLED OUT on the Lineage web site that even a total klutz like me figured it out.
Perhaps some folks feel the Lineage builds aren't worth what they are paying for them? No, that won't make sense, either.
Of course, we can always ASSUME someone made a complete Nandroid backup of their device before flashing the new ROM so that they can return to their previous configuration within minutes of deciding there was anything about the new ROM they didn't like, right ??
And since the first Lineage builds are pretty much the last CM builds with not much more than the logo stuff re-done, I am going to have to think for quite a while about the definition of "badly." Way too many people are expending a whole lot of effort at no expense to any of us to make this happen. GRATITUDE seems like a more appropriate response.
I must have missed the memos.

Root binaries are up...
http://download.lineageos.org/extras
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@jhedfors
flashing once... yes, thank you!
handled badly... besides the order in which rootless ROMs came out and root-zip came out, there was still a bit of chatter on their Gerrit from other developers, not necessarily back and forth but explanations into the big root change. Developers had to find work-arounds and adapt. For users, granted, they said build your own with SU, which I not up to yet, or wait for root/zip,... there are all levels of users and developers!
It is only a few days, but if they were still deciding... 1 week 2 weeks! I do understand the reasoning for why and agree with you, but they could have communicated this "big change" a little more so everyone involved would would have been better prepared!
@nezlek
missed the memo... LOL
but, memoS... is it metioned more than once... where?
so clearly spelled out... I totally disagree!
klutz... me I guess I am the king of klutz, with no one greater!
paying for them...? Perhaps the choice should have been clearer, so users know what they are "buying"... then they have a choice... stay on CM (with December security update) build your own or even do nothing.
Nandroid... yes, thank you... that would have done it. I am getting more organized with different tools... Appeater, bulk install and whatever else! I am definitely motivated to try building now!
Yes, LOS not much more than CM builds than a redone logo... AND ROOT REMOVED! See caps effect... highlight, stupid flashing things... rootless ROM paragraph (or a whole post) in itself, ROM file names with --noroot.zip would have all help. This is a big change; publicity would have been good. A post on its own, a better, sequence of events, etc. would have helped. For a definition of badly, see my response to @jhedfors above!
Grateful... I am! Having done some work myself, I know it takes a lot more than what I am capable of. Spoilt is more like it... never had to worry about root or look elsewhere or at other solutions!
At the end, as you say "...at your own risk" - no one made me do it, and my over sight is my FAULT!
@alexiuss
Again, thanks

In descending order of importance
First, (seriously) glad you finally got everything under control. That IS, after all, why we all are here.
Second, ditto on the Nandroid thing. My personal attempts at development often result in "damned glad I had this" far too often for someone with more expertise than yours truly. I barely turn a device on any more without a reasonably current TWRP based backup of the whole thing. Clearly it is the reason God made SD cards, in my humble opinion.
Your observation about being perhaps somewhat "spoiled" is well made. We all have been spoiled to a very large extent. Cyanogen was a well funded operation from the get go and managed to burn through MILLIONS in venture capital backing from all accounts. Frankly, I am not sure how they shall survive going forward since I think their new business model is inherently flawed, but "esta no mi problem, amigo."
Lineage is certainly at this moment a different type of operation. SOMEONE is eventually going to be paying the bills, and it might have made - in perfect hindsight - sense to hold back all of the releases until they were all completely ready to go, but I suspect the approval rating for the "as they are ready" mode is pretty high.
Folks need to sit back and enjoy the eventual ride. Especially those of us - SELF INCLUDED - who are fortunate enough to either have or will be able to soon expect our builds to be loaded up.
There's an old piece of Polish folk wisdom that applies pretty well in this case: "it will all heal by the wedding day."
Peace.

Me too... glad things are under control... as I know what I am doing I was being naive hoping that small bugs for my device got fixed so soon... again like you said... backup
Nandroid... I was using onandroid with nandroid manager, then, stopped as I went from CM 12 to 13 to 14 without problems. Did not even have to consider wiping anything (really spoilt or taking risks)! I need to look at the updated files/apps and TWRP based backup... always a good idea to have a backup especially if I/you are going to touch something that is a daily driver.
Cyanogenmod was going fine (I guess) before CM Inc. But, yes, I agree about sustainability and their business plan. Donations out of the goodness of the hearts of some people is helping for now.
If things go bad (some devices loose support) then hopefully there is someone who mods and builds for self and provides the file to others. Or, we'll be at the mercy of OEMs. Honesty, google devices might start looking good from "getting updates often" perspective. Or, stick to the legacy devices and hope nothing bad happens.
Yes, they could have held back all releases or at least until the root files were available. I agree... I am sure they wanted to push at least something "out the door" as soon as they could.
LOS is a different operation, yes... from when CM was under CM Inc. and although they returned to their roots, perhaps will be different from before... who knows! It is good to be cautious and ready, just in further shake ups happen... no guarantee of anything! Good to keep our head up!
nezlek said:
First, (seriously) glad you finally got everything under control. That IS, after all, why we all are here.
Second, ditto on the Nandroid thing. My personal attempts at development often result in "damned glad I had this" far too often for someone with more expertise than yours truly. I barely turn a device on any more without a reasonably current TWRP based backup of the whole thing. Clearly it is the reason God made SD cards, in my humble opinion.
Your observation about being perhaps somewhat "spoiled" is well made. We all have been spoiled to a very large extent. Cyanogen was a well funded operation from the get go and managed to burn through MILLIONS in venture capital backing from all accounts. Frankly, I am not sure how they shall survive going forward since I think their new business model is inherently flawed, but "esta no mi problem, amigo."
Lineage is certainly at this moment a different type of operation. SOMEONE is eventually going to be paying the bills, and it might have made - in perfect hindsight - sense to hold back all of the releases until they were all completely ready to go, but I suspect the approval rating for the "as they are ready" mode is pretty high.
Folks need to sit back and enjoy the eventual ride. Especially those of us - SELF INCLUDED - who are fortunate enough to either have or will be able to soon expect our builds to be loaded up.
There's an old piece of Polish folk wisdom that applies pretty well in this case: "it will all heal by the wedding day."
Peace.
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The root zip when flashed on my OnePlus 3 only works with a couple apps like TitaniumBackup. Busybox doesn't recognize root, nor does Magisk.
sent from my Glade Air Freshener

So, this is happening again... LineageOS 15.1 nightlies have started trickling out and there is no addonsu-15.1-arm-signed.zip available...
I am going to assume NOT to flash 14.1 addonSU on a 15.1 ROM... correct me if I am wrong in thinking ==> It is only addonSU, it might work!

Why are there no roms yet for the Pixel 2 XL?

Seems it's been long enough since there are kernels.

The Pixel 2.. Specifically our phone. The unlocked XL is in a very elite and minority based classed of phones. Is it spectacular and an amazing phone? Absolutely but this isn't the Nexus 4, Nexus 5 era anymore.. It's an elite, very expensive phone and in such the amount of people, even developers willing to buy it unlocked are going to be much smaller. You know how many crazy looks I get when people ask how much I paid for my phone and say "$850"..

styckx said:
The Pixel 2.. Specifically our phone. The XL is in a very elite and minority based classed of phones. Is it spectacular and an amazing phone? Absolutely but this isn't the Nexus 4, Nexus 5 era anymore.. It's an elite, very expensive phone and in such the amount of people, even developers willing to buy it unlocked are going to be much smaller. You know how many crazy looks I get when people ask how much I paid for my phone and say "$850"..
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+1. I agree. Android is not what it used to be. The OS and user experience has evolved greatly. Honestly, what is the point of ROMs anymore? The last time I installed one was right before getting the Nexus 5. There are so many ways to customize a stock rooted device, that to me, makes a ROM kind of pointless. I commend all of the developers though for putting their hard work into an "all-in-one" experience. So many talented people in the Android community nowadays. However, many of those 'old timers' are not really investing their time into ROMs anymore. Ehh. My ranting is done. I would suggest that the OP spend their time researching the many different apps and tweaks available as a root user. Because all a ROM really is, is just somebody pre-modifying various functions in a flashable package. Research, invest time, and feel pride into creating your own... ROM.

js042507 said:
+1. I agree. Android is not what it used to be. The OS and user experience has evolved greatly. Honestly, what is the point of ROMs anymore? The last time I installed one was right before getting the Nexus 5. There are so many ways to customize a stock rooted device, that to me, makes a ROM kind of pointless. I commend all of the developers though for putting their hard work into an "all-in-one" experience. So many talented people in the Android community nowadays. However, many of those 'old timers' are not really investing their time into ROMs anymore. Ehh. My ranting is done. I would suggest that the OP spend their time researching the many different apps and tweaks available as a root user. Because all a ROM really is, is just somebody pre-modifying various functions in a flashable package. Research, invest time, and feel pride into creating your own... ROM.
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Very nicely said. ROMS were once a "look what I can do now" novelty that added lacking features and battery saving techniques to Android. And seriously most of the time a lot of it was placebo. Especially with kernels. Kernels got to the point I felt like I was reading an infomercial with all the promises of battery savings and 7 virgins when I die if I installed it. And like most kernels and ROMS every thread on XDA fell into two classes of comments.
1. Feature requests that were outlandish or novelty items only (ie: Themes)
2. *****ing about bugs, random reboots and crashes
Yeah.. I'll stiick with rooted stock in 2018.. I can do everything I could only wish I could do 5 years ago with just that.

You guys make good points and to each their own, but I personally still love ROMs! Maybe it's because I made the switch from iOS to Android when the Nexus 6P was about mid-cycle, so all the ROM flashing/tweaking/modding is still fairly new and fun to me.
But it's not only that, I just like the little things custom ROMs offer, such as clock options, battery options, QS shade quick pull down from the left or right side, clear all FAB, hiding lock screen shortcuts and so on.
I understand there are probably root apps that could do most or all these things, but it's nice to have it built-in the OS with a custom ROM. It eliminates the need to have additional apps to do something as small and simple as move the clock to the centre in the status bar for example.
Oh, and I can't forget full Subsratum support! I know it works with Oreo if we use the Andromeda add-on, but it just goes back to what I said about not having the need to use anything additional because it's already built in the OS.
Lastly, this might just be me, but it's nice to be a part of a ROM community, sharing our enthusiasm for Android and learning from one another by discovering bugs, or screwing things up when flashing/updating and so on!
All-in-all, I'd love to see ROMs for this device, particularly PureNexus as that's my favourite lol but I understand the A/B layout+some other changes Google has made causes for some obstacles for devs to overcome. When is never an issue for me, but it would be awesome for some ROMs to appear as it just gives us more options and customization

rickysidhu_ said:
You guys make good points and to each their own, but I personally still love ROMs! Maybe it's because I made the switch from iOS to Android when the Nexus 6P was about mid-cycle, so all the ROM flashing/tweaking/modding is still fairly new and fun to me.
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I had some Samsung and LG phones in the past: In earlier times (Samsung Galaxy S2 and S4) you had AOSP- or CM-based ROMs which worked very well. With these, you could have a Nexus-like device, but with removable battery and SD-card support.
Fast-forward to the LG G5, and there were no fully working AOSP-based ROMs anymore. You had always stuff which didn't work, so I couldn't use them as daily driver (no offense intended to the developers, the devices got more complicated over time and the vendor-support was also lacking).
So I had to de-bloat the stock ROM manually and flashed the GApps to get a decent device.
With the Pixel 2XL, this isn't necessary at all. The stock ROM is clean, performs well, has an excellent battery runtime, gets updated every month and has no bloat.
So while custom ROMs would be nice, they are not mandatory anymore for me.
Also, we already have an AOSP-ROM for people who want to flash something different.
rickysidhu_ said:
But it's not only that, I just like the little things custom ROMs offer, such as clock options, battery options, QS shade quick pull down from the left or right side, clear all FAB, hiding lock screen shortcuts and so on.
I understand there are probably root apps that could do most or all these things, but it's nice to have it built-in the OS with a custom ROM. It eliminates the need to have additional apps to do something as small and simple as move the clock to the centre in the status bar for example.
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Times they are changing
I remember using AOSP with my SGS4 and customizing it via Xposed/ GravityBox. Fun times...
Then I used RR for some time with all these options built-in.
With the Pixel 2 XL, I simply use Substratum now. Substweaks gives me the center clock, Quick Tiles customizings etc. With OMS, you can do lots of things which required Xposed/GB in the past.
Not that I'm saying that we don't need Xposed anymore at all, but with OMS you can do lots of things which required mods/ ROMs in the past.
rickysidhu_ said:
Oh, and I can't forget full Subsratum support! I know it works with Oreo if we use the Andromeda add-on, but it just goes back to what I said about not having the need to use anything additional because it's already built in the OS.
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The Pixel 2 Xl has full OMS support. I just installed Substratum and gave it root privileges, no need for Andromeda at all. I'll have a second look at Andromeda once I don't need to connect my phone to the PC after every reboot.
rickysidhu_ said:
All-in-all, I'd love to see ROMs for this device, particularly PureNexus as that's my favourite lol but I understand the A/B layout+some other changes Google has made causes for some obstacles for devs to overcome. When is never an issue for me, but it would be awesome for some ROMs to appear as it just gives us more options and customization
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Have you checked out the AOSP-ROM in the DEV section? This could be what you want...
I personally would say that the stock ROM is "pure Nexus", though

BabelHuber said:
I had some Samsung and LG phones in the past: In earlier times (Samsung Galaxy S2 and S4) you had AOSP- or CM-based ROMs which worked very well. With these, you could have a Nexus-like device, but with removable battery and SD-card support.
Fast-forward to the LG G5, and there were no fully working AOSP-based ROMs anymore. You had always stuff which didn't work, so I couldn't use them as daily driver (no offense intended to the developers, the devices got more complicated over time and the vendor-support was also lacking).
So I had to de-bloat the stock ROM manually and flashed the GApps to get a decent device.
With the Pixel 2XL, this isn't necessary at all. The stock ROM is clean, performs well, has an excellent battery runtime, gets updated every month and has no bloat.
So while custom ROMs would be nice, they are not mandatory anymore for me.
Also, we already have an AOSP-ROM for people who want to flash something different.
Times they are changing [emoji14]
I remember using AOSP with my SGS4 and customizing it via Xposed/ GravityBox. Fun times...
Then I used RR for some time with all these options built-in.
With the Pixel 2 XL, I simply use Substratum now. Substweaks gives me the center clock, Quick Tiles customizings etc. With OMS, you can do lots of things which required Xposed/GB in the past.
Not that I'm saying that we don't need Xposed anymore at all, but with OMS you can do lots of things which required mods/ ROMs in the past.
The Pixel 2 Xl has full OMS support. I just installed Substratum and gave it root privileges, no need for Andromeda at all. I'll have a second look at Andromeda once I don't need to connect my phone to the PC after every reboot.
Have you checked out the AOSP-ROM in the DEV section? This could be what you want...
I personally would say that the stock ROM is "pure Nexus", though
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As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing.
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As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing.
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Oh you dirty dog! Teasing us like that! Well done though Hoss :good::good:

Surge1223 said:
As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing.
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As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing. View attachment 4384270
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<3 <3

BabelHuber said:
Also, we already have an AOSP-ROM for people who want to flash something different.
...Have you checked out the AOSP-ROM in the DEV section? This could be what you want...
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Maybe I'll give it a shot in the near future, I've had my 2 XL since this past Saturday but haven't touched it yet. Waiting on a screen protector to arrive in the mail first (OCD won't let me use my phones without a screen protector installed first lol)
BabelHuber said:
The Pixel 2 Xl has full OMS support. I just installed Substratum and gave it root privileges, no need for Andromeda at all. I'll have a second look at Andromeda once I don't need to connect my phone to the PC after every reboot.
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I actually didn't know the stock ROM had full OMS support...that's a nice surprise! I definitely need to get myself more familiar with Oreo, haven't had the chance to play around with it just yet.

rickysidhu_ said:
You guys make good points and to each their own, but I personally still love ROMs! Maybe it's because I made the switch from iOS to Android when the Nexus 6P was about mid-cycle, so all the ROM flashing/tweaking/modding is still fairly new and fun to me.
But it's not only that, I just like the little things custom ROMs offer, such as clock options, battery options, QS shade quick pull down from the left or right side, clear all FAB, hiding lock screen shortcuts and so on.
I understand there are probably root apps that could do most or all these things, but it's nice to have it built-in the OS with a custom ROM. It eliminates the need to have additional apps to do something as small and simple as move the clock to the centre in the status bar for example.
Oh, and I can't forget full Subsratum support! I know it works with Oreo if we use the Andromeda add-on, but it just goes back to what I said about not having the need to use anything additional because it's already built in the OS.
Lastly, this might just be me, but it's nice to be a part of a ROM community, sharing our enthusiasm for Android and learning from one another by discovering bugs, or screwing things up when flashing/updating and so on!
All-in-all, I'd love to see ROMs for this device, particularly PureNexus as that's my favourite lol but I understand the A/B layout+some other changes Google has made causes for some obstacles for devs to overcome. When is never an issue for me, but it would be awesome for some ROMs to appear as it just gives us more options and customization
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I'm the same way, I use my pixel 2 on a regular basis but I find myself turning on my Nexus 6 and flashing a ROM or two because I just like doing it. After so many years of flashing it's going to be hard to just stop.
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Question Is it safe to say?

That there is going to be very little development for this phone? I skipped the last few pixels, and was excited to get back into the game with the P6. But never did I remember it taking this long for Roms and mods to develop. Seems as though those days are gone. Samsung with their creation of Good Lock, seems to have surpassed the Pixel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I haven't kept count, but there's been news in this section of at least 4-6 different ROMs for the P6P.
We have at least 3-4 custom kernels, as well.
As far as other development, click the Development or Mods filters and see what helpful things folks have cooked up for us so far, less than two months after the phone has been in user's hands.

PhilPan said:
That there is going to be very little development for this phone? I skipped the last few pixels, and was excited to get back into the game with the P6. But never did I remember it taking this long for Roms and mods to develop. Seems as though those days are gone. Samsung with their creation of Good Lock, seems to have surpassed the Pixel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think there are at least 5 kernels already. Also I think there are at least another 3 or 4 roms either being tested or already having stable builds. There are also many mods already. I don't think the days of yore are quite gone yet...

Development and developer's will come... especially if they have the source code and the device!

I think this is all wishful thinking boys. The mods and roms that are out there are slim compared to the old days. You guys are reaching for straws here. Those days are over

I know for sure the devs behind Scorpion are working on bringup. Rom bringup for most devices is not easy or quick. Give it a few more months.

Phil would be a good Grinch

I'm a realist boys. Just ain't gonna happen. Sadly, I maybe forced to jump back to the S22 when it's released.
I hope you guys prove me wrong.

Actually I was dead surprised by the amount of development activities going on here, the multitude of Kernels and the first custom ROMs after very few weeks after release.
This is something that actually reminded me of "old times" whereas many other devices show comparable little development activities.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have to agree that "old times" are over - nowadays the necessity for custom development is much smaller than is was back then....

PhilPan said:
I'm a realist boys. Just ain't gonna happen. Sadly, I maybe forced to jump back to the S22 when it's released.
I hope you guys prove me wrong.
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No, that's not being a realist, that's being a pessimist, my dude. Realist is looking at things realistically, the good and bad. Pessimism is looking at everything negatively, realistically or no. You are doing the latter

s3axel said:
Actually I was dead surprised by the amount of development activities going on here, the multitude of Kernels and the first custom ROMs after very few weeks after release.
This is something that actually reminded me of "old times" whereas many other devices show comparable little development activities.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have to agree that "old times" are over - nowadays the necessity for custom development is much smaller than is was back then....
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I'd like to be able to have some customization, aside form the little that is out there. Also, it's just too difficult to upgrade anymore. I no people will chime in and say it's not. But it is. Having to hook to a computer and do adb commands to take an update is not something I want to be to doing all the time, praying my data isn't lost.
Samsung has surpassed the Pixel development community. I know people will hate on that, but it's true. I was able to do so much more with my Samsung out of the box, then I can with my Pixel. Add in the connection issues, and this is a dud.

PhilPan said:
I'm a realist boys. Just ain't gonna happen. Sadly, I maybe forced to jump back to the S22 when it's released.
I hope you guys prove me wrong.
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Seems like you already had your mind made up to begin with considering you're disregarding almost everything people are saying, which makes one wonder why you even opened this thread to begin with

Lughnasadh said:
Seems like you already had your mind made up to begin with considering you're disregarding almost everything people are saying, which makes one wonder why you even opened this thread to begin with
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My mind is definitely not made up. I hate Samsung. But you have to give them props for what they have done. I was so excited to come back to Pixel land. But around a month later I'm ehhhhhhhh.

PhilPan said:
I'd like to be able to have some customization, aside form the little that is out there. Also, it's just too difficult to upgrade anymore. I no people will chime in and say it's not. But it is. Having to hook to a computer and do adb commands to take an update is not something I want to be to doing all the time, praying my data isn't lost.
Samsung has surpassed the Pixel development community. I know people will hate on that, but it's true. I was able to do so much more with my Samsung out of the box, then I can with my Pixel. Add in the connection issues, and this is a dud.
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Yeah, all those issues when updating via Fastboot or ADB are a bit unsettling - I guess we have to wait for TWRP for a bit more of leeway. But at least we have a phone which can be unlocked and relocked without issues or warranty impacts !
As to tweaking: I was missing Gravitybox but got most of the tweaks thanks to the developers here - so that is good for me, but of course your mileage may vary ....
In the end I think we have seen the beginning of development on this phone, not its end

s3axel said:
Yeah, all those issues when updating via Fastboot or ADB are a bit unsettling - I guess we have to wait for TWRP for a bit more of leeway. But at least we have a phone which can be unlocked and relocked without issues or warranty impacts !
As to tweaking: I was missing Gravitybox but got most of the tweaks thanks to the developers here - so that is good for me, but of course your mileage may vary ....
In the end I think we have seen the beginning of development on this phone, not its end
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Thank you for seeing my point there.
And I am hoping you are correct.

PhilPan said:
My mind is definitely not made up. I hate Samsung. But you have to give them props for what they have done. I was so excited to come back to Pixel land. But around a month later I'm ehhhhhhhh.
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"Just ain't gonna happen".
Sure sounds like your mind is made up..
Also, "...a month later...". I don't think it's being a "realist" to expect a plethora of roms to be available in 1 month, especially since many developers may have just gotten the phone or may not even have the phone as of yet. Development takes time and testing.
"Softly, softly, catchee monkey"

s3axel said:
Actually I was dead surprised by the amount of development activities going on here, the multitude of Kernels and the first custom ROMs after very few weeks after release.
This is something that actually reminded me of "old times" whereas many other devices show comparable little development activities.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have to agree that "old times" are over - nowadays the necessity for custom development is much smaller than is was back then....
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Well said, and I agree with all three of your statements.

Well my last phone was the Galaxy S10 and, oh boy did it take long until development really started. The Pixel 6 development is way quicker.
The roms and mods were more basic as well in the beginning, just give it time my man. The phone is barely 2 months old.

The 6pro has a fulfillment issue as well. Many people still don't have them yet.

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the image attached is the s21 ultra development as of today, i would say the pixel 6 pro is in a good state considering we don't have twrp yet.
I do agree that the glory days of flashing your phone are over, but thats also because the OS has matured quite considerably where custom roms are replaced with simple magisk modules.
One other factor for me personally is losing app functionality for important apps by tripping safety net, but thanks to the workaround i was comfortable enough with rooting my p6p.