Question Is it safe to say? - Google Pixel 6 Pro

Question Is it safe to say? - Google Pixel 6 Pro

That there is going to be very little development for this phone? I skipped the last few pixels, and was excited to get back into the game with the P6. But never did I remember it taking this long for Roms and mods to develop. Seems as though those days are gone. Samsung with their creation of Good Lock, seems to have surpassed the Pixel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I haven't kept count, but there's been news in this section of at least 4-6 different ROMs for the P6P.
We have at least 3-4 custom kernels, as well.
As far as other development, click the Development or Mods filters and see what helpful things folks have cooked up for us so far, less than two months after the phone has been in user's hands.

PhilPan said:
That there is going to be very little development for this phone? I skipped the last few pixels, and was excited to get back into the game with the P6. But never did I remember it taking this long for Roms and mods to develop. Seems as though those days are gone. Samsung with their creation of Good Lock, seems to have surpassed the Pixel.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I think there are at least 5 kernels already. Also I think there are at least another 3 or 4 roms either being tested or already having stable builds. There are also many mods already. I don't think the days of yore are quite gone yet...

Development and developer's will come... especially if they have the source code and the device!

I think this is all wishful thinking boys. The mods and roms that are out there are slim compared to the old days. You guys are reaching for straws here. Those days are over

I know for sure the devs behind Scorpion are working on bringup. Rom bringup for most devices is not easy or quick. Give it a few more months.

Phil would be a good Grinch

I'm a realist boys. Just ain't gonna happen. Sadly, I maybe forced to jump back to the S22 when it's released.
I hope you guys prove me wrong.

Actually I was dead surprised by the amount of development activities going on here, the multitude of Kernels and the first custom ROMs after very few weeks after release.
This is something that actually reminded me of "old times" whereas many other devices show comparable little development activities.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have to agree that "old times" are over - nowadays the necessity for custom development is much smaller than is was back then....

PhilPan said:
I'm a realist boys. Just ain't gonna happen. Sadly, I maybe forced to jump back to the S22 when it's released.
I hope you guys prove me wrong.
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No, that's not being a realist, that's being a pessimist, my dude. Realist is looking at things realistically, the good and bad. Pessimism is looking at everything negatively, realistically or no. You are doing the latter

s3axel said:
Actually I was dead surprised by the amount of development activities going on here, the multitude of Kernels and the first custom ROMs after very few weeks after release.
This is something that actually reminded me of "old times" whereas many other devices show comparable little development activities.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have to agree that "old times" are over - nowadays the necessity for custom development is much smaller than is was back then....
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I'd like to be able to have some customization, aside form the little that is out there. Also, it's just too difficult to upgrade anymore. I no people will chime in and say it's not. But it is. Having to hook to a computer and do adb commands to take an update is not something I want to be to doing all the time, praying my data isn't lost.
Samsung has surpassed the Pixel development community. I know people will hate on that, but it's true. I was able to do so much more with my Samsung out of the box, then I can with my Pixel. Add in the connection issues, and this is a dud.

PhilPan said:
I'm a realist boys. Just ain't gonna happen. Sadly, I maybe forced to jump back to the S22 when it's released.
I hope you guys prove me wrong.
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Seems like you already had your mind made up to begin with considering you're disregarding almost everything people are saying, which makes one wonder why you even opened this thread to begin with

Lughnasadh said:
Seems like you already had your mind made up to begin with considering you're disregarding almost everything people are saying, which makes one wonder why you even opened this thread to begin with
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My mind is definitely not made up. I hate Samsung. But you have to give them props for what they have done. I was so excited to come back to Pixel land. But around a month later I'm ehhhhhhhh.

PhilPan said:
I'd like to be able to have some customization, aside form the little that is out there. Also, it's just too difficult to upgrade anymore. I no people will chime in and say it's not. But it is. Having to hook to a computer and do adb commands to take an update is not something I want to be to doing all the time, praying my data isn't lost.
Samsung has surpassed the Pixel development community. I know people will hate on that, but it's true. I was able to do so much more with my Samsung out of the box, then I can with my Pixel. Add in the connection issues, and this is a dud.
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Yeah, all those issues when updating via Fastboot or ADB are a bit unsettling - I guess we have to wait for TWRP for a bit more of leeway. But at least we have a phone which can be unlocked and relocked without issues or warranty impacts !
As to tweaking: I was missing Gravitybox but got most of the tweaks thanks to the developers here - so that is good for me, but of course your mileage may vary ....
In the end I think we have seen the beginning of development on this phone, not its end

s3axel said:
Yeah, all those issues when updating via Fastboot or ADB are a bit unsettling - I guess we have to wait for TWRP for a bit more of leeway. But at least we have a phone which can be unlocked and relocked without issues or warranty impacts !
As to tweaking: I was missing Gravitybox but got most of the tweaks thanks to the developers here - so that is good for me, but of course your mileage may vary ....
In the end I think we have seen the beginning of development on this phone, not its end
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Thank you for seeing my point there.
And I am hoping you are correct.

PhilPan said:
My mind is definitely not made up. I hate Samsung. But you have to give them props for what they have done. I was so excited to come back to Pixel land. But around a month later I'm ehhhhhhhh.
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"Just ain't gonna happen".
Sure sounds like your mind is made up..
Also, "...a month later...". I don't think it's being a "realist" to expect a plethora of roms to be available in 1 month, especially since many developers may have just gotten the phone or may not even have the phone as of yet. Development takes time and testing.
"Softly, softly, catchee monkey"

s3axel said:
Actually I was dead surprised by the amount of development activities going on here, the multitude of Kernels and the first custom ROMs after very few weeks after release.
This is something that actually reminded me of "old times" whereas many other devices show comparable little development activities.
Not sure what you are looking for but I have to agree that "old times" are over - nowadays the necessity for custom development is much smaller than is was back then....
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Well said, and I agree with all three of your statements.

Well my last phone was the Galaxy S10 and, oh boy did it take long until development really started. The Pixel 6 development is way quicker.
The roms and mods were more basic as well in the beginning, just give it time my man. The phone is barely 2 months old.

The 6pro has a fulfillment issue as well. Many people still don't have them yet.

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the image attached is the s21 ultra development as of today, i would say the pixel 6 pro is in a good state considering we don't have twrp yet.
I do agree that the glory days of flashing your phone are over, but thats also because the OS has matured quite considerably where custom roms are replaced with simple magisk modules.
One other factor for me personally is losing app functionality for important apps by tripping safety net, but thanks to the workaround i was comfortable enough with rooting my p6p.

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[8.14.11] Honeycomb 3.2 SGT dev log

Android 3.2 Honeycomb for the Samsung Galaxy Tab
8/14/11: For the time being, this thread will close. Work continues on this (and many other) projects, but this thread has grown too large for its own good and has ceased to be relevant. I will start a new thread when I release 3.2 HC, until then, I'm doing my part to help keep XDA crap-free.
See you soon.
8/5/11: I've been pretty quiet for the last week or so... I've had a lot on my plate, but a lot of things are beginning to fade into the background and HC is more in focus. So far, we have a working kernel for HC (which was a much bigger undertaking that I had thought it would be,) and an HC system based on 3.2 and GB that boots minimally, but provides proof of concept. Next up is correcting video issues, merging in things from the Xoom, building wifi and 3G and enabling the SDcard. I plan to fix video issues first, if only to provide you with some screenshots.
7/25/11:
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7/23/11: Made quite a few kernel modifications and achieved an HC boot today. Hammering out GFX issues as the system doesn't fully boot in.
7/20/11: I just finished building the first version of the new HC kernel with the latest CWM and it boots. The source is up on github.
7/20/11: I spent the last couple of days building a new honeycomb kernel based on the recently released gingerbread cdma kernel along with a recovery built from CM7 source. Things are proceeding slowly, but progress is being made. It looks like I'll begin assembling the basic system components tomorrow and start uploading things to github as they change. Drop in and watch the magic happen in slow motion over the next few days if you want.
7/17/11: Didn't get quite as far as boot, but I did layout the SDK and the Xoom dump, made a lot of notes and made a system map. Next step is to identify the changes that provide compatibility to our type of device to make sure I target my coding for that. Also working on a new kernel based on gingerbread. Since I'm starting fresh here, I might as well switch to a GB base. So the next couple of days will be about kernel building and assembling a bare base of 3.2 into which I can pour code from the GB releases. Oh, and by the way, I just wanna say:
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7/15/11: Getting caught up on things. Looks like dev starts tomorrow on HC. Hoping to at least have boot by tomorrow evening.
7/12/11: It never fails; wait a few minutes and everything changes. 3.2 dropped today for the Xoom. I told ya, as soon as I say anything, it's almost immediately irrelevant. Well, now I'm committed to a couple of things, so I'll have to start development in a few days, but I'll let you know how it's going as I do.
7/12/11: It's been one crazy thing after another... It seems that the universe has conspired to prevent development.
First, I got 3G running on both tabs... but spent days trying to work out a way to connect, (it recognizes the modem, but wont actually latch onto a network.) Then I learned about GB dropping shortly and spent a few days doing research on that in hopes of avoiding a slew of bricks, (only to discover that there is no change to the bootloader so far with CDMA devices... excellent news, but a lot of wasted research.) And then I got tied up with family affairs, work, summer classes etc. etc. etc.
The last straw was when I discovered that 3.2 is going to drop on a new 7 inch tab in a month or two (and will be pushed to the Motorola Xoom in a matter of days according to various accounts on tech blogs.) With that news, I've dropped development altogether.
3.2 is designed to be compatible with 7 inch screens and single-core processors... So continuing this port would be like trying to cram your foot into the wrong size shoe when the right size shoe is sitting just across the room... what's the point?
So when I get my hands on that, we will have an HC that was designed to run on devices like ours (with all of the tasty features available in 3.1 plus whatever new things they do for 3.2.) As the port of 3.01 will like never run with full features for our tab, I think waiting for 3.2 (a short wait) will be the best option as we will have all of the features we should have had in the first place, and then some.
In the meantime, I have been swamped with work of various kids, cheifly the development of a website that will provide a space for new and less experienced developers to hone their skills with the benefit of more experienced developers to directly assist them (along with a web page of their own, a forum with moderator privileges and a mirror for projects.) We've been calling it an "Android development lab" and I have high hopes for it as a place for individuals to develop skills, build software and stage releases fit for XDA and the like. Though XDA fulfills this function in some ways, it is often difficult for the new developer to realize a vision by simply searching forum posts. (We are in no way attempting to draw traffic away from XDA, but rather providing an environment focused on preparing inexperienced individuals to contribute to places like the XDA community.) It's still under construction, but should be ready in a few days.
Also, I've been contributing to various other projects in small ways and have worked in an advisory capacity with several individuals to help them get projects going. I've found that I really enjoy this role, and will continue in it for the time being.
While we are waiting for 3.2, I will be working in partnership with others to bring you MIUI for the tab (already under way), a dual boot option for the galaxy tab and a native linux installation focused on utility and hacking. Look for these projects soon.
For now, I will no longer be updating this thread. My apologies for leaving it hanging here so long, it's just that every day seemed to bring with it an unpredictability that quickly rendered anything I had to say irrelevant.
See you soon.
~Space
7-5-11 #2: fyi:
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7-5-11: I know I'm dragging my ass on this one, but sit tight. Good things are coming.
7-1-11: I meant to update sooner than this, but shortly after I created this thread, I found out that gingerbread would be coming to the Sprint tab in a matter of days... (and perhaps the Verizon tab soon?) This changes things in several ways.
There will be new bootloaders on upgraded Sprint tabs that won't be compatible with my froyo-based HC build (and the Verizon tab as well if GB ever gets released for it--I assume it's to happen in the near future.)
I don't know if these boot-loaders will be locked. I don't know if it will be possible to revert to froyo boot-loaders to run my HC, and I definitely don't want to tell anyone not to upgrade their tab to GB just to run my HC. Preventing you folks from enjoying your device would defeat the entire purpose of what I'm doing here.
Not knowing how things are about to change for us, I took a couple of days to do some research and see what I could find out... And I found that there is no existing information, leaked or otherwise, on what the boot-loader situation will be (but if your google-fu outranks mine, please post your find here.)
So i began to look into moving my work into a GB base. I think that not only will this be possible, but should net similar results as using a froyo base for the same purposes (it might be a touch more difficult as GB is not nearly as clean, organized or stable a system as froyo IMO.)
So, I have a froyo based HC release soon to come after it gets some finishing touches and a few last minute fixes. At the same time, I'm working on getting a GB base assembled and functional so that we can side-step these potential issues. When the new HC is released, some of you will be able to run it, others may not, but please don't hesitate to upgrade to GB if you wish. I'll do my best to get HC working for upgraders as well.
This whole thing has me running a little behind schedule--of course. But stay tuned for more details on the upcoming HC release... I think you'll be pleased.
6-30-11: Here we go again.

Reserved for later

And again, reserved

what are the plans now Space?

looking forward to this

k0sh said:
what are the plans now Space?
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Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!

spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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I, for one, will be glad to join you on your campaign of world, and martian domination!
Onwards!
PS: I mashed your Thanks button until it chided me

spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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LMAO .. this is what i'm looking for .. anyone wanna join ?

k0sh said:
LMAO .. this is what i'm looking for .. anyone wanna join ?
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Depends on the broadband speed...

Count in me if there are some chicks , otherwise i'll take the next flight.
spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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k0sh said:
LMAO .. this is what i'm looking for .. anyone wanna join ?
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af974 said:
Count in me if there are some chicks , otherwise i'll take the next flight.
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now this is what really i should call LMAO .and WOW you dude just made my night

I've been checking these forums like 3 times a day for a while. Thanks for increasing those numbers. I'm highly anticipating the next release of Honeycomb!

Cant wait man, reading the first three posts made me think of my car lol.
Suzuki Kizashi
(kizashi translated in japanese: good things are coming)

I don't want to be a debbie downer here... and I'm normally one to just stay quiet on most matters...
However, the last thread got out of hand. Off-Topic shenanigans and a constant repetition of questions made it difficult to navigate for both novice and n00b alike... please keep this thread on topic as much as we can. I'm no one, myself. However, I keep my post count down by looking for answers and searching, and it's easier to search a thread full of topic-related posts as opposed to random, mindless banter.
Thanks and Thank you Space for your continued work ethic!

mr2324jgf said:
I don't want to be a debbie downer here... and I'm normally one to just stay quiet on most matters...
However, the last thread got out of hand. Off-Topic shenanigans and a constant repetition of questions made it difficult to navigate for both novice and n00b alike... please keep this thread on topic as much as we can. I'm no one, myself. However, I keep my post count down by looking for answers and searching, and it's easier to search a thread full of topic-related posts as opposed to random, mindless banter.
Thanks and Thank you Space for your continued work ethic!
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Here here!
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spacemoose1 said:
Now? We go to the moon. We build a biosphere. Then we start manufacturing weapons. When Earth invades, we defend ourselves. When they are at their weakest, we launch a full scale attack the likes of which Earth has never seen. When they are defeated...
On to Mars!
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I'll bring my father along and together dad and I can engineer and build our war planes. (He tells people how to build jets like the jsf stvl, etc.)
Sent from my GTab running Better Than Life RC1

oldmacnut said:
I'll bring my father along and together dad and I can engineer and build our war planes. (He tells people how to build jets like the jsf stvl, etc.)
Sent from my GTab running Better Than Life RC1
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i can be the assistant engineer, i can rig anything on to anything.

the honeycomb threads make me not want honeycomb

robkoehler said:
the honeycomb threads make me not want honeycomb
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Lol
Sent from my VZW G-Tab running Oldmacnut's better than life RC1 ROM.

so any news? this thread has been pretty quiet considering the fact that the 2.5 thread got locked. im hoping to hear some good news today

Disappointed... just a little bit

First I just want to say if your going to flame me then F*** you, this is a forum and I live in America... so freedom of speech and such...
I must say that I'm a little dissapointed in Sammy's lack of support yet again with this device where they are supporting the international version but we here state side get the shaft just like with the original gs versions. My phone before this was the Samsung vibrant and if it wasn't for great development there would have been Jack squat to do on that phone. I can only imagine what the og epic went through. Now while I appreciate what the devs for the ET have managed to pull of for the device so far which is pretty impressive.... but I think that fact the AT&T GSII has cm7 miui and a booming device community is BS just because its innards are so close to the euro GSII... Sammy needs to get their **** together and give our devs the tools they need to get this community exploding! I love my phone but I like the majority of he people here love to flash and flashing and flash and flash and flash and with only 3 or 4 Tom's to choose for I'm frankly getting bored...... so am I disappointed? Yea, a little bit...
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mauricehall said:
First I just want to say if your going to flame me then F*** you, this is a forum and I live in America... so freedom of speech and such...
I must say that I'm a little dissapointed in Sammy's lack of support yet again with this device where they are supporting the international version but we here state side get the shaft just like with the original gs versions. My phone before this was the Samsung vibrant and if it wasn't for great development there would have been Jack squat to do on that phone. I can only imagine what the og epic went through. Now while I appreciate what the devs for the ET have managed to pull of for the device so far which is pretty impressive.... but I think that fact the AT&T GSII has cm7 miui and a booming device community is BS just because its innards are so close to the euro GSII... Sammy needs to get their **** together and give our devs the tools they need to get this community exploding! I love my phone but I like the majority of he people here love to flash and flashing and flash and flash and flash and with only 3 or 4 Tom's to choose for I'm frankly getting bored...... so am I disappointed? Yea, a little bit...
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First off, your first line is know way to start a thread. If you feel the need to start a thread that way, maybe you shouldn't start it?
Second, Samsung has nothing to do with what our devs or gsm devs do with the phone. GSM has more users and because we are CDMA it takes longer to get things like CM and MIUI working on our devices.
Next time you start thread telling people F U, you might want to get your f'n facts straight and like you said it is America and it is freedom of speech so everyone has a right to say what they want about your thread.....
This thread = fail!

I thought Samsung was in the business of making money, not keeping us happy.
sent from my Epic 4g Touch

coldblooded79 said:
I thought Samsung was in the business of making money, not keeping us happy.
sent from my Epic 4g Touch
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They tie together. Samsung makes great phones and they come with the latest software. Only problem is when an update comes, we're usually last to get it. Not that it's bad or anything, they're just slow. I do wish, however, that they'd step it up by fixing the LoS and soundpool bug. We'll see how it goes this time around. Epic just got GB this week. Took them nearly a year after GB was released.

You will really be disappointed when T mobile version gets CM before us. They have a different chip-set so it should be harder, in theory.

[email protected] said:
First off, your first line is know way to start a thread. If you feel the need to start a thread that way, maybe you shouldn't start it?
Second, Samsung has nothing to do with what our devs or gsm devs do with the phone. GSM has more users and because we are CDMA it takes longer to get things like CM and MIUI working on our devices.
Next time you start thread telling people F U, you might want to get your f'n facts straight and like you said it is America and it is freedom of speech so everyone has a right to say what they want about your thread.....
This thread = fail!
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VERY well put.
mauricehall said:
I love my phone but I like the majority of he people here love to flash and flashing and flash and flash and flash and with only 3 or 4 Tom's to choose for I'm frankly getting bored......
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And I'd like to point out that this guy flashes "Tom's" instead of "ROMs".
Maybe that's the problem. Of course his grammar, spelling and punctuation are a problem as well.
That is all.

AnAm85 said:
And I'd like to point out that this guy flashes "Tom's" instead of "ROMs". Maybe that's the problem. Of course his grammar, spelling and punctuation are a problem as well.
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Thats the android keyboard auto correcting rom to tom...

The devs have given us plenty to flash for the time being. That was a long story considering the only disappointment I have with the phone is 3 letters LOS
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you can always...RETURN IT!!

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No you can't unless you want to pay a restocking fee or your beyond the 14 days.
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[email protected] said:
First off, your first line is know way to start a thread. If you feel the need to start a thread that way, maybe you shouldn't start it?
Second, Samsung has nothing to do with what our devs or gsm devs do with the phone. GSM has more users and because we are CDMA it takes longer to get things like CM and MIUI working on our devices.
Next time you start thread telling people F U, you might want to get your f'n facts straight and like you said it is America and it is freedom of speech so everyone has a right to say what they want about your thread.....
This thread = fail!
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First off I didn't point any fingers at anyone but flametards like yourself who go around trolling the forums, i was expecting someone like yourself to take that line as bait and just like a troll you bit!
Secondly, Samsung has almost everything to do with what our devs can do. if you followed the OG ET then you would have seen what can get done with no source codes. HTC releases the source for their phones and they usually have a great dev community... So by simple mathematics I deduced that source = good dev community and no source = slow dev community. Also by simple mathematics I was able to deduce that your flame = predictable+expected+double Fail!
Success100 said:
you can always...RETURN IT!!
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Yea lets see if sprint would be so kind to take it back over a month after I purchased it... Your missing the point, I love the phone but wish Sammy would stop being stingy with the source! Truth be told I love the phone and if there was zero development going on I would be satisfied with it but bored as hell!

AnAm85 said:
And I'd like to point out that this guy flashes "Tom's" instead of "ROMs".
Maybe that's the problem. Of course his grammar, spelling and punctuation are a problem as well.
That is all.
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LMFAO hahaha

You know how you get more Roms for the SGS2. Buy all the developers in the EVO section an SGS2 and you will have a lot more Roms.....

I agree with you op about the source code. I think the flaming is being done because how you started your post. Not the nicest of ways to do it. Besides there are very young kids on here as well.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

mauricehall said:
First off I didn't point any fingers at anyone but flametards like yourself who go around trolling the forums, i was expecting someone like yourself to take that line as bait and just like a troll you bit!
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People say that all the time after they get owned. "bla bla bla bait, bla bla bla you bit". Same old crap from people who obviously have no clue what they're talking about. Maybe you just need to take an oxy and chill out buddy.
CDMA is more difficult to work with than GSM. How do I know this? Well I've used both. You can flash the crap out of a GSM phone and the odds of you truly bricking it are slim. CDMA, different story. You flash the wrong partition and everything is toast.
"Secondly" The T Mobile version will probably be even easier to develop for than any other given it's SOC. Sure it's different but development for the Snapdragon vs. Exynos? No comparison. Part of the issue is Sammy but I understand their waiting. ICS was just released, albeit they had it well in advance because of the new Nexus. They are holding off on giving us anything because they're focusing on ICS for all their compatible phones. It's sucks but I'm more than happy to wait.

mauricehall said:
First I just want to say if your going to flame me then F*** you, this is a forum and I live in America... so freedom of speech and such...
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Um, I also live in America, and realize this is a privately run forum in which freedom of speech does not exist. They can edit and delete any posts they feel like.

mauricehall said:
First I just want to say please flame me then F*** me, this is a forum and I live in 'merica... so freedom of speech, lack of grammar, punctuation, and such...
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Fixed OP.
I may be a relative n00b, but at least I know how to use this forum. A little bit of effort scrolling through this forum alone would have yielded the previous five posts THIS WEEK about the same "lack of source code/ICS/development" etc. The devs are working for free. Samsung, in order to turn a profit, sell more than one model. To the best of my knowledge, they do not have a single team of dedicated developers working on our phone for us.

**sets Claymore in this thread**
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I cannot wait for cm9! should make this beast what I bought it for!

What is going on....

Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks

I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
Sent From E4GT CoNsTriCtEd bY B0A
"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."

einsteins said:
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
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Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel

daryelv said:
Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel
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Calk is leaving. Remember, work phone/changing jobs. lol

There are a lot of good, active ROMs out there. Spend time in the Dev section and read through the comments, you'll be able to pick up what's still active very easily.

Things will also pick up when ICS ota comes and source drops.
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There's always a dip before an update. I speak from experience
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D1rk said:
I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
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"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."
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please dont misunderstand me....I fully respect the Devs have a life...I was mainly talking about Threads dissapearing or being locked. If I dev needs time that is fine as you still have the thread to ask questions or reseach issues. Once the thread goes away or is closed you are limited in your options.
Sorry if I was misunderstood...

If I deleted a thread it was because it needed to be deleted, for reasons that may not be known to the common member. There's a lot that goes on behind the scene, its not just cut and dry.
---Jay--- From the AOKP'd Nexus

Blazer has only gotten so far since ICS started leaking, I mean your coming in pretty late in the phones life. I always liked Calk's rom but since CM9 got so far so quick I am sticking with that for the life of the phone. AOKP will pick up eventually.

i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.

einsteins said:
Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks
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I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
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I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
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I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.
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Now that^^^^ answer to one above ^^^ was right on point. You are not a true android enthusiasts if you cant see the difference between these roms. Honestly I go into the Evo forum since I was a big part of that forum for a year and all I see is the same rom split in 12 different pieces. In this forum there happens to be some pretty great developers and all working on different stuff. The roms you happened to pick were by the same guy. So if his life has sent him in a different direction and he can not keep putting out quality work then either you pick it up for him or choose a different rom.
Sorry man not trying to be harsh but I just dont believe in the nice guy crap. It is what it is. Loved the Evo but in the beginning over there it was the same as it was over here. Not sure if you remember but there were like 2 roms out for a while and the steps to root were crazy(like 40 steps). My friend jump on CM9 lay back and enjoy the ride or hey you can always go back to an Evo3d

i didnt come from any other phone except the intercept(crap). and i think that CM9 has the most activity of the roms, only bcuz there are soo many phones that have been ported. and Esoteric68 is right the EVO has had way more time to come out with roms. and our phone is still fairly new compared to the EVO series. but you gotta make do with what you have, once source comes out for ICS for our phone, we'll have more roms and more things going on.

graffix31 said:
i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.
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Unfortunately I think its more than that... guys go read the last few pages here and this is the reason why you loose developers. Some of you have got to learn to how to relax especially if you are leeching and can not or have not contributed yourselves.

Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
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kpakpo89 said:
Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
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Yes its because so many users think they are the chosen 1. I mean xda is a hell of a place if you know how to use it. I have learned to do so much just by searching these threads with any issue I have. I have themed my own stuff made changes to the system files and basically tweaked the hell out of my phone just by searching the web. My attitude is I am damn sure not the first person to ask whatever question I have to ask and knowledge is the key(hmm heard that somewhere)
With people demanding stuff and claiming stuff is broken when they are the only ones with the issue and then addressing it rudely in a thread does not make a developer WANT to do anything for you. I could go on for a while on the BS I have seen.
We need to take what these developers have given us and be grateful as well as learn how to fix some of this stuff ourselves. If you can not help yourself then either ask nicely or #gositdownsomewhere
*rant over* Playya Out!

Noooooooooo I think its because of the trollz...
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Dam trollz are everywhere...
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I am using ParanoidAndroid atm and it seems awesome! I hope some avenue opens so that it can stay current.

Will there ever be a ROM that is right for me?...

Ive been a fan of ROMs and customizing Android since I originally bought into the smartphone world, back in the days of Android 2.3. It originally started because not only was I already a fan of modern technology and loved to build computers and troubleshoot malfunctioning tech, but because back in the days of Android 2, ICE, and so on, there was a reason for ROMs. They added so many features to such restricted systems that did not have very many features and were prone to freezing issues due to the chip technology not allowing for fast enough CPUs to support such demanding systems, but now that my T-Mobile Note 3 SM-900T and everyone elses all have official Lollipop firmware, its hard to see why I have such a hard time finding a ROM that I like, but I will tell you why, its simple. The reason being is that I like the stock system so much more than any of the ROMs currently out there, unless... there was something I missed...
TO ALL DEVS, THIS IS WHAT I FEEL ALOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE OUT OF A ROM FOR THE SM-900T. I AM NOT A DEVELOPER, I HAVE NOT A CLUE HOW TO DEV, NOR DO I HAVE THE TOOLS, THEREFORE YOU CAN GLADLY TAKE MY IDEA FOR YOUR OWN!!!
As I said before, I believe the stock system is amazing, however the battery life and speed is terrible, so of course I began by experimenting with ROMs as per the ususal, well the Alliance ROM was pretty nice, the system was extremely fast and very stable, I liked it alot. However, alot of little details began to get on my nerves. First was the 1000+ options for custom coloring and customizing of the U.I. While more choice sounds like a good thing, you come to find that there are no defaults set up. My notifications kept coming up completely blanked out with no text whatsoever because the colors had to be set. Well, navigating the Alliance custom color settings was completely unfathomable and after days of experimenting, I came up with NO positive results. It also did not have the ability to skip songs from the lockscreen via lockscreen notification, which became a real pain real fast. Having to enter your 6-digit pin while doing 60+ MPH on your way to work just to skip a song isn't fun. Eventually, Alliance had to go. The other ROM I have recently tried is the DomPop TekHD edition (since its the one based on the official lollipop firmware). At first, things looked very promising, then it bricked my phone. After following the Dev's "Failsafe/Bulletproof" installation instructions, I finally got the ROM to function, but I found that the flashing of the stock kernel on top of the custom ROM did limit its features. The ViperFX custom equalizer does not work whatsoever, google play music FC's all the time, and the phone freezes up quite often.
After my frustrations trying to use these ROMS, I came to a startling conclustion: The Stock firmware is just better! And this is what gave me the idea, because despite it being stock it comes with all the features available to modern smartphones, its pretty fast, its stable, and it never fails, so why not create a COMPLETELY STOCK ROM but with some bloatware removed, and have it tweaked to provide better battery life and performance? Honestly, the stock features are better anyways. The ONLY issue that I can find with the stock firmware is that battery life is terrible (under 8 hours on WiFi wtf????), and the system could use a little optimizing combined with a bit of overclocking (Id say 2.5 GHz is plenty). For example, my car stereo sounds so much better off the stock built-in Samsung equalizer than any profile I was ever able to make using ViperFX.
Devs, if you were to create this simple and yet amazing ROM, I; and many others would greatly appreciate it! Yes I am aware that there are some stock ROMS available for the SM-900T. HOWEVER; there aren't any that are compatible with the OFFICIAL LOLLIPOP BASEBAND/FIRMWARE AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED!

So you tried 2 ROMs, and now all ROMs suck unless they are what your idea of a ROM should be? Lol
Seriously.... I can't even.
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toastido said:
So you tried 2 ROMs, and now all ROMs suck unless they are what your idea of a ROM should be? Lol
Seriously.... I can't even.
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Oh look here at mister moron trying to assume things. No idiot, thats not all Ive tried. Those are just examples. Ive literally tried every single ROM available on XDA for the SM-900T running the Lollipop Baseband, and MOST from back when we were still all on KitKat. If I were to give an accurate estimate, I would say Ive installed about 15-20 different ROMs on my phone. The KitKat ones were great! But now it seems like every single Lollipop-based ROM just has so many issues that its not worth running.
So yea dont even sit here and point the finger at me like Im the one with the issue, maybe next time you oughta think before you speak.
By the way, I wasnt saying all ROMs suck, cause they dont. Its just these days, the stock firmware is actually better

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Oh look here at mister moron trying to assume things. No idiot, thats not all Ive tried. Those are just examples. Ive literally tried every single ROM available on XDA for the SM-900T running the Lollipop Baseband, and MOST from back when we were still all on KitKat. If I were to give an accurate estimate, I would say Ive installed about 15-20 different ROMs on my phone. The KitKat ones were great! But now it seems like every single Lollipop-based ROM just has so many issues that its not worth running.
So yea dont even sit here and point the finger at me like Im the one with the issue, maybe next time you oughta think before you speak.
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Yeah because we know that without you saying it.
Also, No need for name calling.
But since you went there, Yeah, I went back through your post history. Seems you don't know actually what you're doing, so, I'll just leave it at that.

toastido said:
Yeah because we know that without you saying it.
Also, No need for name calling.
But since you went there, Yeah, I went back through your post history. Seems you don't know actually what you're doing, so, I'll just leave it at that.
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Ya sure, because Ive been doing this for years, and I Imagine I'm a whole lot better at it than you, Ive rooted and put ROMs on phones for family, friends, co-workers, and more. Ive probably customized about 100 different phones. So how many have you done successfully? And what? Ur afraid of names? You wanna be a cry baby then get the hell out of my thread and STAY OUT!
... Disrespectful little POS you think you have a right to talk down to me? U talk all big but ur smaller than a pebble

wallacengineering said:
Ya sure, because Ive been doing this for years, and I Imagine I'm a whole lot better at it than you, Ive rooted and put ROMs on phones for family, friends, co-workers, and more. Ive probably customized about 100 different phones. So how many have you done successfully? And what? Ur afraid of names? You wanna be a cry baby then get the hell out of my thread and STAY OUT!
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And you accuse me of assumptions? Bwahahahaha!
Someone's butthurt! Call the waambulance!

toastido said:
And you accuse me of assumptions? Bwahahahaha!
Someone's butthurt! Call the waambulance!
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hahaha, ya ur not funny, you sound like one of those annoying 5 year olds. Now seriously, go be a moron somewhere else, Im done replying to your idiocy, thank you

wallacengineering said:
hahaha, ya ur not funny, you sound like one of those annoying 5 year olds. Now seriously, go be a moron somewhere else, Im done replying to your idiocy, thank you
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Stock rooted+Xposed is what all the cool kids are doing now. Roms are a bit redundant/unecessary if you can shove enough extra functionality into stock and be more stable/efficient at the same time.
Also you post like a teenager with daddy issues, might want to use full words like a big boy.

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ur the one who started all the whining, so I think its pretty funny how you talk about yourself. Oh hey, whats that, its time for my date? oh right, something you have probably never heard of. Anyways, too busy to deal with the likes of you or anyone in this stupid forum if thats how all of you act, I'll just use a rival site for all my needs. This, XDA, is how you loose a customer, peace.

Wtf
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KoscheiTheDeathless said:
Stock rooted+Xposed is what all the cool kids are doing now. Roms are a bit redundant/unecessary if you can shove enough extra functionality into stock and be more stable/efficient at the same time.
Also you post like a teenager with daddy issues, might want to use full words like a big boy.
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Since when does anyone care whatsoever about how someone types on a forum? Is this really what your life revolves around, peoples online spelling, really? Thats what is so damn important? If that is what you are truly concerned about, go get some help, like now. Ya no, see Im 23 years old, out here livin' life, enjoying it (So far at least), and makin' money, which is why come September Im gonna be one of the first and only people I even know to walk out of a T-Mobile store with a brand new Samsung Galaxy Note 5 paid up front, in cash . You really think Im concerned with what anyone has to say on some two-bit forum site, especially when I know you are only backing this other stupid guy because hes a higher "rank" than me? Wow, you people are truly pathetic, wasteful, miserable excuses for human beings. Im pretty sure the world would have been a much better place had neither one of you two been born. and its really funny how me and the guys are just sitting here with a couple beers and joints, just laughing our asses off as you all get trolled by the boss. Hahahahaha screw this site and everyone on it. I was polite and nice for years on here and this is the thanks I get? A bunch of ridicule for having an opinion? Wow, I think all of you need to move to Colorado where Im at and learn to chill the hell out. Now Im busy, bouts to go get some action, peace!

dannesalo said:
Wtf
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Idk man lol, seems like some people are just up-tight little b****** rofl

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Idk man lol, seems like some people are just up-tight little b****** rofl
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Did you hack netnanny ?

dannesalo said:
Did you hack netnanny ?
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Huh? Hack someone? No no no, I dont hack people. I have no desire to be mean to anyone, I have more respect for people than that. He started this ridiculous quarrel, and I ended it, with facts. Pretty easy to get people to back off when they themselves know they are causing issues for no reason whatsoever other than they literally want to pick fights. Which by the way, seems pretty stupid to do over the internet lol. Pretty immature, too. Im sure a moderator got him or something along those lines.

wallacengineering said:
Huh? Hack someone? No no no, I dont hack people. I have no desire to be mean to anyone, I have more respect for people than that. He started this ridiculous quarrel, and I ended it, with facts. Pretty easy to get people to back off when they themselves know they are causing issues for no reason whatsoever other than they literally want to pick fights. Which by the way, seems pretty stupid to do over the internet lol. Pretty immature, too. Im sure a moderator got him or something along those lines.
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I have learned to tolerate people..I just found my mission of god I think.

YO! Anyone got some more butter for this popcorn???????
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Thread closed!
OP you will get NO help from anyone with your ridiculous attitude and over sensitivity to criticism
If you have so much experience, please learn to build your own perfect ROM and share it

Why are there no roms yet for the Pixel 2 XL?

Seems it's been long enough since there are kernels.

The Pixel 2.. Specifically our phone. The unlocked XL is in a very elite and minority based classed of phones. Is it spectacular and an amazing phone? Absolutely but this isn't the Nexus 4, Nexus 5 era anymore.. It's an elite, very expensive phone and in such the amount of people, even developers willing to buy it unlocked are going to be much smaller. You know how many crazy looks I get when people ask how much I paid for my phone and say "$850"..

styckx said:
The Pixel 2.. Specifically our phone. The XL is in a very elite and minority based classed of phones. Is it spectacular and an amazing phone? Absolutely but this isn't the Nexus 4, Nexus 5 era anymore.. It's an elite, very expensive phone and in such the amount of people, even developers willing to buy it unlocked are going to be much smaller. You know how many crazy looks I get when people ask how much I paid for my phone and say "$850"..
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+1. I agree. Android is not what it used to be. The OS and user experience has evolved greatly. Honestly, what is the point of ROMs anymore? The last time I installed one was right before getting the Nexus 5. There are so many ways to customize a stock rooted device, that to me, makes a ROM kind of pointless. I commend all of the developers though for putting their hard work into an "all-in-one" experience. So many talented people in the Android community nowadays. However, many of those 'old timers' are not really investing their time into ROMs anymore. Ehh. My ranting is done. I would suggest that the OP spend their time researching the many different apps and tweaks available as a root user. Because all a ROM really is, is just somebody pre-modifying various functions in a flashable package. Research, invest time, and feel pride into creating your own... ROM.

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+1. I agree. Android is not what it used to be. The OS and user experience has evolved greatly. Honestly, what is the point of ROMs anymore? The last time I installed one was right before getting the Nexus 5. There are so many ways to customize a stock rooted device, that to me, makes a ROM kind of pointless. I commend all of the developers though for putting their hard work into an "all-in-one" experience. So many talented people in the Android community nowadays. However, many of those 'old timers' are not really investing their time into ROMs anymore. Ehh. My ranting is done. I would suggest that the OP spend their time researching the many different apps and tweaks available as a root user. Because all a ROM really is, is just somebody pre-modifying various functions in a flashable package. Research, invest time, and feel pride into creating your own... ROM.
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Very nicely said. ROMS were once a "look what I can do now" novelty that added lacking features and battery saving techniques to Android. And seriously most of the time a lot of it was placebo. Especially with kernels. Kernels got to the point I felt like I was reading an infomercial with all the promises of battery savings and 7 virgins when I die if I installed it. And like most kernels and ROMS every thread on XDA fell into two classes of comments.
1. Feature requests that were outlandish or novelty items only (ie: Themes)
2. *****ing about bugs, random reboots and crashes
Yeah.. I'll stiick with rooted stock in 2018.. I can do everything I could only wish I could do 5 years ago with just that.

You guys make good points and to each their own, but I personally still love ROMs! Maybe it's because I made the switch from iOS to Android when the Nexus 6P was about mid-cycle, so all the ROM flashing/tweaking/modding is still fairly new and fun to me.
But it's not only that, I just like the little things custom ROMs offer, such as clock options, battery options, QS shade quick pull down from the left or right side, clear all FAB, hiding lock screen shortcuts and so on.
I understand there are probably root apps that could do most or all these things, but it's nice to have it built-in the OS with a custom ROM. It eliminates the need to have additional apps to do something as small and simple as move the clock to the centre in the status bar for example.
Oh, and I can't forget full Subsratum support! I know it works with Oreo if we use the Andromeda add-on, but it just goes back to what I said about not having the need to use anything additional because it's already built in the OS.
Lastly, this might just be me, but it's nice to be a part of a ROM community, sharing our enthusiasm for Android and learning from one another by discovering bugs, or screwing things up when flashing/updating and so on!
All-in-all, I'd love to see ROMs for this device, particularly PureNexus as that's my favourite lol but I understand the A/B layout+some other changes Google has made causes for some obstacles for devs to overcome. When is never an issue for me, but it would be awesome for some ROMs to appear as it just gives us more options and customization

rickysidhu_ said:
You guys make good points and to each their own, but I personally still love ROMs! Maybe it's because I made the switch from iOS to Android when the Nexus 6P was about mid-cycle, so all the ROM flashing/tweaking/modding is still fairly new and fun to me.
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I had some Samsung and LG phones in the past: In earlier times (Samsung Galaxy S2 and S4) you had AOSP- or CM-based ROMs which worked very well. With these, you could have a Nexus-like device, but with removable battery and SD-card support.
Fast-forward to the LG G5, and there were no fully working AOSP-based ROMs anymore. You had always stuff which didn't work, so I couldn't use them as daily driver (no offense intended to the developers, the devices got more complicated over time and the vendor-support was also lacking).
So I had to de-bloat the stock ROM manually and flashed the GApps to get a decent device.
With the Pixel 2XL, this isn't necessary at all. The stock ROM is clean, performs well, has an excellent battery runtime, gets updated every month and has no bloat.
So while custom ROMs would be nice, they are not mandatory anymore for me.
Also, we already have an AOSP-ROM for people who want to flash something different.
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But it's not only that, I just like the little things custom ROMs offer, such as clock options, battery options, QS shade quick pull down from the left or right side, clear all FAB, hiding lock screen shortcuts and so on.
I understand there are probably root apps that could do most or all these things, but it's nice to have it built-in the OS with a custom ROM. It eliminates the need to have additional apps to do something as small and simple as move the clock to the centre in the status bar for example.
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Times they are changing
I remember using AOSP with my SGS4 and customizing it via Xposed/ GravityBox. Fun times...
Then I used RR for some time with all these options built-in.
With the Pixel 2 XL, I simply use Substratum now. Substweaks gives me the center clock, Quick Tiles customizings etc. With OMS, you can do lots of things which required Xposed/GB in the past.
Not that I'm saying that we don't need Xposed anymore at all, but with OMS you can do lots of things which required mods/ ROMs in the past.
rickysidhu_ said:
Oh, and I can't forget full Subsratum support! I know it works with Oreo if we use the Andromeda add-on, but it just goes back to what I said about not having the need to use anything additional because it's already built in the OS.
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The Pixel 2 Xl has full OMS support. I just installed Substratum and gave it root privileges, no need for Andromeda at all. I'll have a second look at Andromeda once I don't need to connect my phone to the PC after every reboot.
rickysidhu_ said:
All-in-all, I'd love to see ROMs for this device, particularly PureNexus as that's my favourite lol but I understand the A/B layout+some other changes Google has made causes for some obstacles for devs to overcome. When is never an issue for me, but it would be awesome for some ROMs to appear as it just gives us more options and customization
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Have you checked out the AOSP-ROM in the DEV section? This could be what you want...
I personally would say that the stock ROM is "pure Nexus", though

BabelHuber said:
I had some Samsung and LG phones in the past: In earlier times (Samsung Galaxy S2 and S4) you had AOSP- or CM-based ROMs which worked very well. With these, you could have a Nexus-like device, but with removable battery and SD-card support.
Fast-forward to the LG G5, and there were no fully working AOSP-based ROMs anymore. You had always stuff which didn't work, so I couldn't use them as daily driver (no offense intended to the developers, the devices got more complicated over time and the vendor-support was also lacking).
So I had to de-bloat the stock ROM manually and flashed the GApps to get a decent device.
With the Pixel 2XL, this isn't necessary at all. The stock ROM is clean, performs well, has an excellent battery runtime, gets updated every month and has no bloat.
So while custom ROMs would be nice, they are not mandatory anymore for me.
Also, we already have an AOSP-ROM for people who want to flash something different.
Times they are changing [emoji14]
I remember using AOSP with my SGS4 and customizing it via Xposed/ GravityBox. Fun times...
Then I used RR for some time with all these options built-in.
With the Pixel 2 XL, I simply use Substratum now. Substweaks gives me the center clock, Quick Tiles customizings etc. With OMS, you can do lots of things which required Xposed/GB in the past.
Not that I'm saying that we don't need Xposed anymore at all, but with OMS you can do lots of things which required mods/ ROMs in the past.
The Pixel 2 Xl has full OMS support. I just installed Substratum and gave it root privileges, no need for Andromeda at all. I'll have a second look at Andromeda once I don't need to connect my phone to the PC after every reboot.
Have you checked out the AOSP-ROM in the DEV section? This could be what you want...
I personally would say that the stock ROM is "pure Nexus", though
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As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing.
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Surge1223 said:
As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing.
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Oh you dirty dog! Teasing us like that! Well done though Hoss :good::good:

Surge1223 said:
As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing.
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Finally
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Surge1223 said:
As Subs/Pure dev, after your kind words I felt the need to reassure you that pure nexus plus full OMS is indeed amazing. View attachment 4384270
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<3 <3

BabelHuber said:
Also, we already have an AOSP-ROM for people who want to flash something different.
...Have you checked out the AOSP-ROM in the DEV section? This could be what you want...
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Maybe I'll give it a shot in the near future, I've had my 2 XL since this past Saturday but haven't touched it yet. Waiting on a screen protector to arrive in the mail first (OCD won't let me use my phones without a screen protector installed first lol)
BabelHuber said:
The Pixel 2 Xl has full OMS support. I just installed Substratum and gave it root privileges, no need for Andromeda at all. I'll have a second look at Andromeda once I don't need to connect my phone to the PC after every reboot.
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I actually didn't know the stock ROM had full OMS support...that's a nice surprise! I definitely need to get myself more familiar with Oreo, haven't had the chance to play around with it just yet.

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