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Disappointed... just a little bit

First I just want to say if your going to flame me then F*** you, this is a forum and I live in America... so freedom of speech and such...
I must say that I'm a little dissapointed in Sammy's lack of support yet again with this device where they are supporting the international version but we here state side get the shaft just like with the original gs versions. My phone before this was the Samsung vibrant and if it wasn't for great development there would have been Jack squat to do on that phone. I can only imagine what the og epic went through. Now while I appreciate what the devs for the ET have managed to pull of for the device so far which is pretty impressive.... but I think that fact the AT&T GSII has cm7 miui and a booming device community is BS just because its innards are so close to the euro GSII... Sammy needs to get their **** together and give our devs the tools they need to get this community exploding! I love my phone but I like the majority of he people here love to flash and flashing and flash and flash and flash and with only 3 or 4 Tom's to choose for I'm frankly getting bored...... so am I disappointed? Yea, a little bit...
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mauricehall said:
First I just want to say if your going to flame me then F*** you, this is a forum and I live in America... so freedom of speech and such...
I must say that I'm a little dissapointed in Sammy's lack of support yet again with this device where they are supporting the international version but we here state side get the shaft just like with the original gs versions. My phone before this was the Samsung vibrant and if it wasn't for great development there would have been Jack squat to do on that phone. I can only imagine what the og epic went through. Now while I appreciate what the devs for the ET have managed to pull of for the device so far which is pretty impressive.... but I think that fact the AT&T GSII has cm7 miui and a booming device community is BS just because its innards are so close to the euro GSII... Sammy needs to get their **** together and give our devs the tools they need to get this community exploding! I love my phone but I like the majority of he people here love to flash and flashing and flash and flash and flash and with only 3 or 4 Tom's to choose for I'm frankly getting bored...... so am I disappointed? Yea, a little bit...
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First off, your first line is know way to start a thread. If you feel the need to start a thread that way, maybe you shouldn't start it?
Second, Samsung has nothing to do with what our devs or gsm devs do with the phone. GSM has more users and because we are CDMA it takes longer to get things like CM and MIUI working on our devices.
Next time you start thread telling people F U, you might want to get your f'n facts straight and like you said it is America and it is freedom of speech so everyone has a right to say what they want about your thread.....
This thread = fail!

I thought Samsung was in the business of making money, not keeping us happy.
sent from my Epic 4g Touch

coldblooded79 said:
I thought Samsung was in the business of making money, not keeping us happy.
sent from my Epic 4g Touch
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They tie together. Samsung makes great phones and they come with the latest software. Only problem is when an update comes, we're usually last to get it. Not that it's bad or anything, they're just slow. I do wish, however, that they'd step it up by fixing the LoS and soundpool bug. We'll see how it goes this time around. Epic just got GB this week. Took them nearly a year after GB was released.

You will really be disappointed when T mobile version gets CM before us. They have a different chip-set so it should be harder, in theory.

[email protected] said:
First off, your first line is know way to start a thread. If you feel the need to start a thread that way, maybe you shouldn't start it?
Second, Samsung has nothing to do with what our devs or gsm devs do with the phone. GSM has more users and because we are CDMA it takes longer to get things like CM and MIUI working on our devices.
Next time you start thread telling people F U, you might want to get your f'n facts straight and like you said it is America and it is freedom of speech so everyone has a right to say what they want about your thread.....
This thread = fail!
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VERY well put.
mauricehall said:
I love my phone but I like the majority of he people here love to flash and flashing and flash and flash and flash and with only 3 or 4 Tom's to choose for I'm frankly getting bored......
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And I'd like to point out that this guy flashes "Tom's" instead of "ROMs".
Maybe that's the problem. Of course his grammar, spelling and punctuation are a problem as well.
That is all.

AnAm85 said:
And I'd like to point out that this guy flashes "Tom's" instead of "ROMs". Maybe that's the problem. Of course his grammar, spelling and punctuation are a problem as well.
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Thats the android keyboard auto correcting rom to tom...

The devs have given us plenty to flash for the time being. That was a long story considering the only disappointment I have with the phone is 3 letters LOS
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[email protected] said:
First off, your first line is know way to start a thread. If you feel the need to start a thread that way, maybe you shouldn't start it?
Second, Samsung has nothing to do with what our devs or gsm devs do with the phone. GSM has more users and because we are CDMA it takes longer to get things like CM and MIUI working on our devices.
Next time you start thread telling people F U, you might want to get your f'n facts straight and like you said it is America and it is freedom of speech so everyone has a right to say what they want about your thread.....
This thread = fail!
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First off I didn't point any fingers at anyone but flametards like yourself who go around trolling the forums, i was expecting someone like yourself to take that line as bait and just like a troll you bit!
Secondly, Samsung has almost everything to do with what our devs can do. if you followed the OG ET then you would have seen what can get done with no source codes. HTC releases the source for their phones and they usually have a great dev community... So by simple mathematics I deduced that source = good dev community and no source = slow dev community. Also by simple mathematics I was able to deduce that your flame = predictable+expected+double Fail!
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Yea lets see if sprint would be so kind to take it back over a month after I purchased it... Your missing the point, I love the phone but wish Sammy would stop being stingy with the source! Truth be told I love the phone and if there was zero development going on I would be satisfied with it but bored as hell!

AnAm85 said:
And I'd like to point out that this guy flashes "Tom's" instead of "ROMs".
Maybe that's the problem. Of course his grammar, spelling and punctuation are a problem as well.
That is all.
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LMFAO hahaha

You know how you get more Roms for the SGS2. Buy all the developers in the EVO section an SGS2 and you will have a lot more Roms.....

I agree with you op about the source code. I think the flaming is being done because how you started your post. Not the nicest of ways to do it. Besides there are very young kids on here as well.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

mauricehall said:
First off I didn't point any fingers at anyone but flametards like yourself who go around trolling the forums, i was expecting someone like yourself to take that line as bait and just like a troll you bit!
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People say that all the time after they get owned. "bla bla bla bait, bla bla bla you bit". Same old crap from people who obviously have no clue what they're talking about. Maybe you just need to take an oxy and chill out buddy.
CDMA is more difficult to work with than GSM. How do I know this? Well I've used both. You can flash the crap out of a GSM phone and the odds of you truly bricking it are slim. CDMA, different story. You flash the wrong partition and everything is toast.
"Secondly" The T Mobile version will probably be even easier to develop for than any other given it's SOC. Sure it's different but development for the Snapdragon vs. Exynos? No comparison. Part of the issue is Sammy but I understand their waiting. ICS was just released, albeit they had it well in advance because of the new Nexus. They are holding off on giving us anything because they're focusing on ICS for all their compatible phones. It's sucks but I'm more than happy to wait.

mauricehall said:
First I just want to say if your going to flame me then F*** you, this is a forum and I live in America... so freedom of speech and such...
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Um, I also live in America, and realize this is a privately run forum in which freedom of speech does not exist. They can edit and delete any posts they feel like.

mauricehall said:
First I just want to say please flame me then F*** me, this is a forum and I live in 'merica... so freedom of speech, lack of grammar, punctuation, and such...
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Fixed OP.
I may be a relative n00b, but at least I know how to use this forum. A little bit of effort scrolling through this forum alone would have yielded the previous five posts THIS WEEK about the same "lack of source code/ICS/development" etc. The devs are working for free. Samsung, in order to turn a profit, sell more than one model. To the best of my knowledge, they do not have a single team of dedicated developers working on our phone for us.

**sets Claymore in this thread**
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I cannot wait for cm9! should make this beast what I bought it for!

[README] New? Before flashing any ICS-based rom, READ THIS

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ICE CREAM SANDWICH!!
Before you consider it though, READ this. Read it closely.
The goal of this thread isn't to be dramatic at all. There was no big issue...this topic didn't really have to be posted.
But the idea is to purely be helpful. Not everybody who surfs these forums knows everything that's going on and its nice to have all the information in one place. I hope this information helps you determine whether or not the ICS leak is good for you.
There are common issues among all ICS-leak based ROMs. I hope this helps a lot of you since I've seen the same questions in a lot of ROM threads, over and over.
Mods if you can sticky, +1!
#0: A LITTLE BACKGROUND
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When I say "ICS-leak based ROMs", I am saying that the current state of ICS roms on the T989 is that they are based on the ICS leak for our AT&T cousin, the Skyrocket. Thus there are still issues.
That being said...flash Skyrocket roms at your own risk.
Common issues in ALL leak-based roms:
(* Does not neccesarily apply to Raver's AOSP build, it is FUNDAMENTALLY different so read his topic and follow his posts *)
Call echo for about 50-75% of us. A temporary solution is to play around with your case(if you have one on your phone) OR turn off Noise Reduction while in a call
There is no Wi-Fi calling
Shutdown doesn't work for some people. THIS IS WHY YOU MUST SUPERWIPE!! (See #3)
Some video streaming problems
Some video recording problems (depends on ROM)
Some AT&T specific modifications that can give you problems. I.E. there is no 2G/4G toggle switch
Point is: THEY'RE NOT PERFECT YET
#1!
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BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING
If you don't know what ClockworkMod is and how to access the Recovery menu,
STOP here. Look around, read some tutorials, and immerse yourself in some basic Android knowledge.
This can mean the difference between frying a $250+ device and running a cool ROM on it. Do what you do wisely.
Keep your battery charged and make backups.
#2!
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MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
This is the same as using the Backup and Restore menu in CWM. You have been warned. The devs aren't responsible for lost data.
#3!
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BEFORE FLASHING ICS ROMS
Super super important:
Run this script via CWM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1477955
THIS WILL WIPE YOUR PHONE...and align the partitions properly for ICS
Run it again. Do it twice to be safe!
Then flash your ROM.
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PATCH YOUR ACCELEROMETER
Without this, your phone will not AutoRotate, games and many media apps will give you headaches, and your CAMERA WILL BE BROKEN.
Most of the ROMs here should have this patch built in. If you're a dev and haven't added it in yet, please do so !!
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592170
#5
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WHEN LOOKING AT THE DEVELPMENT TOPIC
Use the topic search function before you post a question.
I'm not a topic police officer. I don't really care what people post in my own topics as long as its not bickering. But asking questions when they've already been asked does take up space and makes the topic harder to sift through so please be courteous to the devs Do yourself and all of us a favor. Look through it first! This is a cycle...if people look through the topics before posting, their question will be most likely answered and then they will not need to post. The topic gets less cluttered and the next person who has a question has less pages to look through
And different OP's have different requests for their topics. Please be courteous.
THIS IS NOT A COMPETITION
I can stand with Raver in saying this. As a matter of fact, I plan on collaborating with him.
The point is:
XDA isn't about competition. It's about innovation. So please don't say X ROM is better than Y ROM, everyone has their own taste.
TO REPORT BUGS
Follow the instructions in the ROM dev's OP.
I'm actually going to make a Mantis bug tracker for our ICS ROMs. Devs and themers, let me know if you're interested via PM.
GOING BACK TO GINGERBREAD?
Although the ICS roms are fairly stable at this point, some of you may wish to go back to Gingerbread for whatever reason. Before flashing back to GB: REPEAT STEP 3 ABOVE, DO THE SUPERWIPE!

must read if your new to ics
This should be sticky or like placed in the top 5 spots or something where people are sure to read it.
Oh ya if you missed it
DARKSIDE WIPE MULTIPLE TIMES!!!

Just asked a mod to sticky it

yaldak said:
Just asked a mod to sticky it
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BTW that is some amazing you pulled on the rotation. Straight boss
Your thanks/post ratio says it all

I understand what you say of the att roms
But I've been running skyics for a while now and my phones fine.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

JaZart said:
I understand what you say of the att roms
But I've been running skyics for a while now and my phones fine.
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This is true. Which is why its a caution / at your risk thing

sound advice in this sticky. superwipe really gets the job done.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using Tapatalk

To add and not that it maybe required, after running super wipe a few times I have ran samsung_ultimate_kernel_cleaning_script_by_lippol94 which has given me almost perfect results with any ICS flash I have done.

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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Here's my take on this. What's the first thing someone is going to be looking for when going to their phones section on xda? "Development" right? Now thnknof how many people, more specifically those with the xda app, go to "stickies" for information first?. My guess is not the majority. This thread is also clearly labeled as to what it is and is formatted so anyone can relate and understand. Therefore while I see that you think its the same I vouch it stays. Until we get our own version of ics we and the more bugs are fixed or found, this sticky would prove useful. It also keeps random questions or repeat questions out of from threads.
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iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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The goal wasn't to be dramatic at all. There was no big issue and I'm not a topic cop...IDC what people post but to make it easier for everyone in general its nice to have a little primer.
But the idea is to purely be helpful. Not everybody who surfs these forums knows everything that's going on and its nice to have all the information in one place. You'll be surprised.

iloveandroid16 said:
um I think this is being a little over dramatic... plus there is another thread stating the current state of all ICS roms. I think this should be closed.
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Agreed. You guys and your wipe 3 times.. lmao..
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

I think it's great right here. Especially for those who are new, don't know how to search, are mentally slow on finding stuff. It's right here in your face when you walk into the Dev section. Don't close this. Just because some people know enough, doesn't mean others do. I know, but there's still a lot of people who don't.
TerrorCandii™ Gaming

The post was appreciated, not for me but I know for some who are new as replied above. Many forget that there are people out there that are not as perfect as they are. Remember, you once were as newb as those who are (new) here. Treat others as you would wanted to be treated.
Although ICS is nice and I have had great results it's just so early in dev stages I must go back to the darkside.

To clarify....cani use the skyrocket ics roms such as skyics and have working data? How? Someone here posted that they did.
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}{Alienz}{ said:
To clarify....cani use the skyrocket ics roms such as skyics and have working data? How? Someone here posted that they did.
Sent from my SGH-I727 using XDA
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Yes, you can flash Skyrocket roms. I have flashed several of the ICS leak roms, and have not lost data connection. I just wipe and flash. No issues for me.. other than having to de-att it.
If you loose data then try a superwipe?
This thread, while informative, does make it seem like a "big deal " but it really just isn't. They are the same flipping phone!!! And now that one of our local geniuses have figured out the auto rotation issues, we are golden to share in all the SR ICS love
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Sorry for the double post..

Okay toned it down a notch.
But again I will reiterate that I did not make this topic because this is a big deal, its not. I made it because we will have new visitors and I want to help them get started

yaldak said:
Okay toned it down a notch.
But again I will reiterate that I did not make this topic because this is a big deal, its not. I made it because we will have new visitors and I want to help them get started
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I think alot of the issues people have which are common across many ICS leak based roms but that only a percent of users get are purely due to the way the rom was flashed. Clearly you dont need to do all the wipes but if you dont and you get one of these bad rom flashing bugs then dont complain to the dev.

PJcastaldo said:
This thread, while informative, does make it seem like a "big deal " but it really just isn't. They are the same flipping phone!!! And now that one of our local geniuses have figured out the auto rotation issues, we are golden to share in all the SR ICS love
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA
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Curiously, that "local genious" is the very same guy that started this thread!! So at least for that reason (gratitude) you should just let it be...you dont need it? Fine, we heard you...no problem, but im sure someone will benefit from it.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA

What is going on....

Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks

I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
Sent From E4GT CoNsTriCtEd bY B0A
"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."

einsteins said:
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
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Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel

daryelv said:
Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel
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Calk is leaving. Remember, work phone/changing jobs. lol

There are a lot of good, active ROMs out there. Spend time in the Dev section and read through the comments, you'll be able to pick up what's still active very easily.

Things will also pick up when ICS ota comes and source drops.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium

There's always a dip before an update. I speak from experience
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D1rk said:
I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
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"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."
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please dont misunderstand me....I fully respect the Devs have a life...I was mainly talking about Threads dissapearing or being locked. If I dev needs time that is fine as you still have the thread to ask questions or reseach issues. Once the thread goes away or is closed you are limited in your options.
Sorry if I was misunderstood...

If I deleted a thread it was because it needed to be deleted, for reasons that may not be known to the common member. There's a lot that goes on behind the scene, its not just cut and dry.
---Jay--- From the AOKP'd Nexus

Blazer has only gotten so far since ICS started leaking, I mean your coming in pretty late in the phones life. I always liked Calk's rom but since CM9 got so far so quick I am sticking with that for the life of the phone. AOKP will pick up eventually.

i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.

einsteins said:
Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks
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I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
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I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
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I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.
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Now that^^^^ answer to one above ^^^ was right on point. You are not a true android enthusiasts if you cant see the difference between these roms. Honestly I go into the Evo forum since I was a big part of that forum for a year and all I see is the same rom split in 12 different pieces. In this forum there happens to be some pretty great developers and all working on different stuff. The roms you happened to pick were by the same guy. So if his life has sent him in a different direction and he can not keep putting out quality work then either you pick it up for him or choose a different rom.
Sorry man not trying to be harsh but I just dont believe in the nice guy crap. It is what it is. Loved the Evo but in the beginning over there it was the same as it was over here. Not sure if you remember but there were like 2 roms out for a while and the steps to root were crazy(like 40 steps). My friend jump on CM9 lay back and enjoy the ride or hey you can always go back to an Evo3d

i didnt come from any other phone except the intercept(crap). and i think that CM9 has the most activity of the roms, only bcuz there are soo many phones that have been ported. and Esoteric68 is right the EVO has had way more time to come out with roms. and our phone is still fairly new compared to the EVO series. but you gotta make do with what you have, once source comes out for ICS for our phone, we'll have more roms and more things going on.

graffix31 said:
i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.
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Unfortunately I think its more than that... guys go read the last few pages here and this is the reason why you loose developers. Some of you have got to learn to how to relax especially if you are leeching and can not or have not contributed yourselves.

Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
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kpakpo89 said:
Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
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Yes its because so many users think they are the chosen 1. I mean xda is a hell of a place if you know how to use it. I have learned to do so much just by searching these threads with any issue I have. I have themed my own stuff made changes to the system files and basically tweaked the hell out of my phone just by searching the web. My attitude is I am damn sure not the first person to ask whatever question I have to ask and knowledge is the key(hmm heard that somewhere)
With people demanding stuff and claiming stuff is broken when they are the only ones with the issue and then addressing it rudely in a thread does not make a developer WANT to do anything for you. I could go on for a while on the BS I have seen.
We need to take what these developers have given us and be grateful as well as learn how to fix some of this stuff ourselves. If you can not help yourself then either ask nicely or #gositdownsomewhere
*rant over* Playya Out!

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[Q] (ROM) People's ROM - Just Had to do a complete unroot

Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:

bmdiz said:
Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:
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Did you check to see if you had a bad download. You should have compared the md5 sums.
And ktoonz has been giving me the best battery life with all the ROMs I have tried.
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bmdiz said:
Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again.
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myself as well as tons of others are happy with TPR, sorry sir but there are no bugs (far as I can tell) with this great rom, as said sounds like you got a bad download. did you have nandroid backup? if you did you could have reverted back to that by going into recovery manually and used your backup, always, always, always backup before flashing anything :good: good luck

TPR has no bugs. The bugs where either on your download or on your device. TPR loads and is better than almost anything out there. I'm partial to it, but really feel insulted and I hope Kenny Rompnit and the rest of the crew don't see this insult of their work.
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WTH? Never ever i had a problem wirh TPR n I've been running it since it started n been a tester for the rom ever since I'm sure u have a bad download or did you do a clean install or a dirty install? I would give the ok on any version of tpr if there a problem with it loading or any other problems n we are the people we help anyone that needs helping did you post in tpr thread to get help from us we would have helped you anyway we could have
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Well.
1. Root your phone
2. Download TPR
3. CHECK md5
4. CHECK md5
5. Download stock kernel from freeza
6. Wipe Sytem/Data
7. Flash TPR
8. Choose no kernel in the install
9. Flash Stock kernel
10. Wipe Cache/Dalvik and Fix Permissions
11. Test all your things
12. Feedback
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Ooooh OP.. No you di'nt!
You done riled up The People now!
If only you had asked for help in thread or PM... The People are always there for each other.
AND you forgot the 1st rule of flashing... ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS Back up before flashing ANYTHING! With 1GB ROMs the chances of bad downloads and flashes are much greater.
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It seems extremely narcissistic and illogical to assume that there is absolutely no possibility that you made an honest mistake (or that a random network error resulted in a bad download). But anyone who has used TPR will immediately dismiss the OP as the words of an uninformed individual who lacks the effort and interest to become more informed. If those who have never used TPR aren't smart enough to recognize the fact that this claim completely contradicts at least 99.9% of the reports about the rom, then they probably won't be missed anyway, lol
OP, you basically managed to destroy any credibility you might have had with that one post. If you were hoping to troll up some drama, you chose the wrong forum and the wrong rom to target
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I think you did something wrong. I dont have any issues with my phone at all. Infact i been getting excellent performance and amazing battery life. Try downloading and flashing again. Make sure you flash the whole file, i had to set my laptop not to fall asleep while waiting to download the big file. I flashed mine dirty, but sounds luke you may want to wipe cache first and then flashing. Good luck
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before opening mouth and inserting foot please check md5 and make sure you are using a BB cable to transfer rom to phone
edit: and you are behind by 2 releases we are at 3.13 now

Lol. I download everything over 3g/now LTE and never had a bad download.
I had only one md5 fail transferring for the PC to a phone. 3 phones, and only mine had the fail.
I was :-0 "three phones and only mine is soft bricked. what a luck"
But also I had a NANDROID. So no worry.
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bmdiz said:
Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:
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Think it's just bad download OP, Been on TPR for quite some time, testing releases, never had an issue unless it was a bad download. ALWAYS Verify MD5. However, if you do decide TPR is not right for you, See the MoAR Thread. It's like TPR but different

edfunkycold said:
TPR has no bugs. The bugs where either on your download or on your device. TPR loads and is better than almost anything out there. I'm partial to it, but really feel insulted and I hope Kenny Rompnit and the rest of the crew don't see this insult of their work.
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Just because I may have had a bad download and/or something wrong with my device has nothing to do with me insulting anyone. I too loved TPR and was enjoying the hell out of it. There was nothing in my question/comment/post that was insulting in any way, shape, or form. I really think you're taking this someplace it doesn't need to go.

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Just because I may have had a bad download and/or something wrong with my device has nothing to do with me insulting anyone. I too loved TPR and was enjoying the hell out of it. There was nothing in my question/comment/post that was insulting in any way, shape, or form. I really think you're taking this someplace it doesn't need to go.
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I believe The People took offense to your choice of words stating that the ROM had bugs and none of the responsibility was yours. Usually for someone to make such a statement there should be some corroboration. The first thing anyone should do is wipe data, redownload and reflash before stating there is a bug. And for you also to state you would return when we fix it when nothing was broken but perhaps your download is ludicrous. Next time ask for help in the ROM thread. The People are very accomodating and bend over backwards to anyone asking for help...not so much for self-righteousness.
Now with all that said, redownload 3.13 and ask in the ROM thread if you have any questions.

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It seems extremely narcissistic and illogical to assume that there is absolutely no possibility that you made an honest mistake (or that a random network error resulted in a bad download). But anyone who has used TPR will immediately dismiss the OP as the words of an uninformed individual who lacks the effort and interest to become more informed. If those who have never used TPR aren't smart enough to recognize the fact that this claim completely contradicts at least 99.9% of the reports about the rom, then they probably won't be missed anyway, lol
OP, you basically managed to destroy any credibility you might have had with that one post. If you were hoping to troll up some drama, you chose the wrong forum and the wrong rom to target
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I think some folks are just a bit melodramatic and take things where they don't need to go. As stated, I gave the entire team recognition for their work and enjoyed using TPR. Anyway, rather than sit there and bash someone for asking a honest question and assist me, you loose credibility from me, so, thanks for nothing. BTW: Who the hell is OP that everyone if referring to?.......... Never mind, I really don't need an answer from you about that.

bmdiz said:
I think some folks are just a bit melodramatic and take things where they don't need to go. As stated, I gave the entire team recognition for their work and enjoyed using TPR. Anyway, rather than sit there and bash someone for asking a honest question and assist me, you loose credibility from me, so, thanks for nothing. BTW: Who the hell is OP that everyone if referring to?.......... Never mind, I really don't need an answer from you about that.
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OP stands for: Original post, OR original poster (the person who started the thread)
But yeah, it seems like you offended quite a couple people. Did you check the rom thread to see if anyone else had issues with 3.13? It may be that the update required a full wipe before installing as well, as the nature of some updates require a clean flash instead of a dirty one
Personally, I always recommended checking for problems on your end before suggesting problems on the roms end. The developers put a lot of work into this and do it in their spare time, so suggesting that something they made, and tested extensively, has bugs doesnt exactly come off as a compliment
Not trying to patronize, but remember that all of this is strictly through text. Not everyone may interpret what you wrote in the way you intended for it to be interpreted or in the way you understand it

kennyglass123 said:
I believe The People took offense to your choice of words stating that the ROM had bugs and none of the responsibility was yours. Usually for someone to make such a statement there should be some corroboration. The first thing anyone should do is wipe data, redownload and reflash before stating there is a bug. And for you also to state you would return when we fix it when nothing was broken but perhaps your download is ludicrous. Next time ask for help in the ROM thread. The People are very accomodating and bend over backwards to anyone asking for help...not so much for self-righteousness.
Now with all that said, redownload 3.13 and ask in the ROM thread if you have any questions.
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Thanks kennyglass, no disrespect was intended in any way at all. I will follow your steps and will reflash TPR. If I have any issues I will PM you directly. Some folks just need to take a chill pill man.
Thanks for understanding.

How about you apologize to Kenny and the Team for saying that the rom had "bugs" and was "broken" when in fact there is nothing wrong with it. And take acceptance that you may have had a bad download, and may have not known what you where doing, and started a whole thread because you failed to seek help in the Rom thread where you should have in the first place. It's not that I wanted to pick on you it's your choice of words and lack of knowledge when it comes to flashing. It's better to ask questions and ask for help than to make FALSE accusations and statements in a public forum.
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edfunkycold said:
How about you apologize to Kenny and the Team for saying that the rom had "bugs" and was "broken" when in fact there is nothing wrong with it. And take acceptance that you may have had a bad download, and may have not known what you where doing, and started a whole thread because you failed to seek help in the Rom thread where you should have in the first place. It's not that I wanted to pick on you it's your choice of words and lack of knowledge when it comes to flashing. It's better to ask questions and ask for help than to make FALSE accusations and statements in a public forum.
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Check your PM PAL

Will there ever be a ROM that is right for me?...

Ive been a fan of ROMs and customizing Android since I originally bought into the smartphone world, back in the days of Android 2.3. It originally started because not only was I already a fan of modern technology and loved to build computers and troubleshoot malfunctioning tech, but because back in the days of Android 2, ICE, and so on, there was a reason for ROMs. They added so many features to such restricted systems that did not have very many features and were prone to freezing issues due to the chip technology not allowing for fast enough CPUs to support such demanding systems, but now that my T-Mobile Note 3 SM-900T and everyone elses all have official Lollipop firmware, its hard to see why I have such a hard time finding a ROM that I like, but I will tell you why, its simple. The reason being is that I like the stock system so much more than any of the ROMs currently out there, unless... there was something I missed...
TO ALL DEVS, THIS IS WHAT I FEEL ALOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE OUT OF A ROM FOR THE SM-900T. I AM NOT A DEVELOPER, I HAVE NOT A CLUE HOW TO DEV, NOR DO I HAVE THE TOOLS, THEREFORE YOU CAN GLADLY TAKE MY IDEA FOR YOUR OWN!!!
As I said before, I believe the stock system is amazing, however the battery life and speed is terrible, so of course I began by experimenting with ROMs as per the ususal, well the Alliance ROM was pretty nice, the system was extremely fast and very stable, I liked it alot. However, alot of little details began to get on my nerves. First was the 1000+ options for custom coloring and customizing of the U.I. While more choice sounds like a good thing, you come to find that there are no defaults set up. My notifications kept coming up completely blanked out with no text whatsoever because the colors had to be set. Well, navigating the Alliance custom color settings was completely unfathomable and after days of experimenting, I came up with NO positive results. It also did not have the ability to skip songs from the lockscreen via lockscreen notification, which became a real pain real fast. Having to enter your 6-digit pin while doing 60+ MPH on your way to work just to skip a song isn't fun. Eventually, Alliance had to go. The other ROM I have recently tried is the DomPop TekHD edition (since its the one based on the official lollipop firmware). At first, things looked very promising, then it bricked my phone. After following the Dev's "Failsafe/Bulletproof" installation instructions, I finally got the ROM to function, but I found that the flashing of the stock kernel on top of the custom ROM did limit its features. The ViperFX custom equalizer does not work whatsoever, google play music FC's all the time, and the phone freezes up quite often.
After my frustrations trying to use these ROMS, I came to a startling conclustion: The Stock firmware is just better! And this is what gave me the idea, because despite it being stock it comes with all the features available to modern smartphones, its pretty fast, its stable, and it never fails, so why not create a COMPLETELY STOCK ROM but with some bloatware removed, and have it tweaked to provide better battery life and performance? Honestly, the stock features are better anyways. The ONLY issue that I can find with the stock firmware is that battery life is terrible (under 8 hours on WiFi wtf????), and the system could use a little optimizing combined with a bit of overclocking (Id say 2.5 GHz is plenty). For example, my car stereo sounds so much better off the stock built-in Samsung equalizer than any profile I was ever able to make using ViperFX.
Devs, if you were to create this simple and yet amazing ROM, I; and many others would greatly appreciate it! Yes I am aware that there are some stock ROMS available for the SM-900T. HOWEVER; there aren't any that are compatible with the OFFICIAL LOLLIPOP BASEBAND/FIRMWARE AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED!

So you tried 2 ROMs, and now all ROMs suck unless they are what your idea of a ROM should be? Lol
Seriously.... I can't even.
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toastido said:
So you tried 2 ROMs, and now all ROMs suck unless they are what your idea of a ROM should be? Lol
Seriously.... I can't even.
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Oh look here at mister moron trying to assume things. No idiot, thats not all Ive tried. Those are just examples. Ive literally tried every single ROM available on XDA for the SM-900T running the Lollipop Baseband, and MOST from back when we were still all on KitKat. If I were to give an accurate estimate, I would say Ive installed about 15-20 different ROMs on my phone. The KitKat ones were great! But now it seems like every single Lollipop-based ROM just has so many issues that its not worth running.
So yea dont even sit here and point the finger at me like Im the one with the issue, maybe next time you oughta think before you speak.
By the way, I wasnt saying all ROMs suck, cause they dont. Its just these days, the stock firmware is actually better

wallacengineering said:
Oh look here at mister moron trying to assume things. No idiot, thats not all Ive tried. Those are just examples. Ive literally tried every single ROM available on XDA for the SM-900T running the Lollipop Baseband, and MOST from back when we were still all on KitKat. If I were to give an accurate estimate, I would say Ive installed about 15-20 different ROMs on my phone. The KitKat ones were great! But now it seems like every single Lollipop-based ROM just has so many issues that its not worth running.
So yea dont even sit here and point the finger at me like Im the one with the issue, maybe next time you oughta think before you speak.
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Yeah because we know that without you saying it.
Also, No need for name calling.
But since you went there, Yeah, I went back through your post history. Seems you don't know actually what you're doing, so, I'll just leave it at that.

toastido said:
Yeah because we know that without you saying it.
Also, No need for name calling.
But since you went there, Yeah, I went back through your post history. Seems you don't know actually what you're doing, so, I'll just leave it at that.
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Ya sure, because Ive been doing this for years, and I Imagine I'm a whole lot better at it than you, Ive rooted and put ROMs on phones for family, friends, co-workers, and more. Ive probably customized about 100 different phones. So how many have you done successfully? And what? Ur afraid of names? You wanna be a cry baby then get the hell out of my thread and STAY OUT!
... Disrespectful little POS you think you have a right to talk down to me? U talk all big but ur smaller than a pebble

wallacengineering said:
Ya sure, because Ive been doing this for years, and I Imagine I'm a whole lot better at it than you, Ive rooted and put ROMs on phones for family, friends, co-workers, and more. Ive probably customized about 100 different phones. So how many have you done successfully? And what? Ur afraid of names? You wanna be a cry baby then get the hell out of my thread and STAY OUT!
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And you accuse me of assumptions? Bwahahahaha!
Someone's butthurt! Call the waambulance!

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And you accuse me of assumptions? Bwahahahaha!
Someone's butthurt! Call the waambulance!
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hahaha, ya ur not funny, you sound like one of those annoying 5 year olds. Now seriously, go be a moron somewhere else, Im done replying to your idiocy, thank you

wallacengineering said:
hahaha, ya ur not funny, you sound like one of those annoying 5 year olds. Now seriously, go be a moron somewhere else, Im done replying to your idiocy, thank you
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Stock rooted+Xposed is what all the cool kids are doing now. Roms are a bit redundant/unecessary if you can shove enough extra functionality into stock and be more stable/efficient at the same time.
Also you post like a teenager with daddy issues, might want to use full words like a big boy.

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ur the one who started all the whining, so I think its pretty funny how you talk about yourself. Oh hey, whats that, its time for my date? oh right, something you have probably never heard of. Anyways, too busy to deal with the likes of you or anyone in this stupid forum if thats how all of you act, I'll just use a rival site for all my needs. This, XDA, is how you loose a customer, peace.

Wtf
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KoscheiTheDeathless said:
Stock rooted+Xposed is what all the cool kids are doing now. Roms are a bit redundant/unecessary if you can shove enough extra functionality into stock and be more stable/efficient at the same time.
Also you post like a teenager with daddy issues, might want to use full words like a big boy.
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Since when does anyone care whatsoever about how someone types on a forum? Is this really what your life revolves around, peoples online spelling, really? Thats what is so damn important? If that is what you are truly concerned about, go get some help, like now. Ya no, see Im 23 years old, out here livin' life, enjoying it (So far at least), and makin' money, which is why come September Im gonna be one of the first and only people I even know to walk out of a T-Mobile store with a brand new Samsung Galaxy Note 5 paid up front, in cash . You really think Im concerned with what anyone has to say on some two-bit forum site, especially when I know you are only backing this other stupid guy because hes a higher "rank" than me? Wow, you people are truly pathetic, wasteful, miserable excuses for human beings. Im pretty sure the world would have been a much better place had neither one of you two been born. and its really funny how me and the guys are just sitting here with a couple beers and joints, just laughing our asses off as you all get trolled by the boss. Hahahahaha screw this site and everyone on it. I was polite and nice for years on here and this is the thanks I get? A bunch of ridicule for having an opinion? Wow, I think all of you need to move to Colorado where Im at and learn to chill the hell out. Now Im busy, bouts to go get some action, peace!

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Wtf
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Idk man lol, seems like some people are just up-tight little b****** rofl

wallacengineering said:
Idk man lol, seems like some people are just up-tight little b****** rofl
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Did you hack netnanny ?

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Did you hack netnanny ?
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Huh? Hack someone? No no no, I dont hack people. I have no desire to be mean to anyone, I have more respect for people than that. He started this ridiculous quarrel, and I ended it, with facts. Pretty easy to get people to back off when they themselves know they are causing issues for no reason whatsoever other than they literally want to pick fights. Which by the way, seems pretty stupid to do over the internet lol. Pretty immature, too. Im sure a moderator got him or something along those lines.

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Huh? Hack someone? No no no, I dont hack people. I have no desire to be mean to anyone, I have more respect for people than that. He started this ridiculous quarrel, and I ended it, with facts. Pretty easy to get people to back off when they themselves know they are causing issues for no reason whatsoever other than they literally want to pick fights. Which by the way, seems pretty stupid to do over the internet lol. Pretty immature, too. Im sure a moderator got him or something along those lines.
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I have learned to tolerate people..I just found my mission of god I think.

YO! Anyone got some more butter for this popcorn???????
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Thread closed!
OP you will get NO help from anyone with your ridiculous attitude and over sensitivity to criticism
If you have so much experience, please learn to build your own perfect ROM and share it