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Is there a stable 2.3 gingerbread rom out there?

I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.

You need to calm down buddy!!! If you don't like what you see on xda go somewhere else! There will never be a solid rom they just get better and better!!
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yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information. And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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WOW! Someone needs to get some booty

First off, wow, asking for a stable version of an operating system that's barely out on any phone yet is so terrible that it obviously seems you haven't been doing hours of reading. Skim through the first page of the Q&A section for the evo or any of most recent pages on those "300 pages" of comments and you will find people talking about their problems with these ROMs.
Besides that... ruling out the terrible wiki we have for the evo, I can only offer my own opinion in what gingerbread ROM I believe is best. I suggest the latest Cyanogen Mod 7 RC if you don't keep up with the nightlies. CM7 has just about every feature the evo is hardware capable of. It runs fine for me along with Savaged Zen's kernel. Try out different kernels and ROMs to see what is best for you instead of relying on 300 pages of comments.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!! That's for sure!
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WOW! Someone needs to get some booty
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Get latest ROM Manager which has a "ROM" library now. Went from both Gingerbread SalvageMod to CM7RC4 due to Ad-Hoc availability. Lots more listed too.
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OP,
It's fine if you don't want to search. It's fine if you don't want to read through threads that are hundreds of pages long. Both of those things are really your problem, not anybody's here. Also, it's fine if you would prefer a "cleaner" interface or a more organized presentation of ROMS available for the EVO; even I think that's a good idea that someone could really take advantage of on their own personal website with AdSense or something.
But what isn't fine is:
"...you people..."
"...it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!"
"...300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless."
"This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative."
If you came in here to post that and expected not to be insulted, called a troll, or start a flame fest then you, my friend, have some maturing to do.

...most if not all are beta's or rc's (or based off), so i say no!

Nightly 36 of CM7 is working 100% for everything I've tried thus far (4G, wifi tethering, maps, camera) but there's no guarantee there won't be issues later.

First, I can say the information here is some what scattered but the amount of the users on this site would make it nearly impossible for a group of non paid Admins to keep track of. Second, almost all version of GB are as close as they can be to stable, if none of those please you compile your own if it's not that hard. Third, what about Sense? Do you want it or need it, could use some maybe? Finally, IMO the Destroyer V2 is solid, with a lot of options, but requires reading the first post to flash properly.

Im surprised anyone is replying to this arrogant jacka**
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CM7 nightly 36 will have everything working, other than the slight chance you will not be able to get the gps working with the sense fix.
Or try RC8 of the ROM linked in the yet another AOSP Ginger ROM thread in the dev section.
Or if you want something better, learn how to make it yourself (Forum or ROM).

yoerz said:
I know you people don't like these posts,
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You people? You mean those of us who spend time learning how to improve our smartphone experience while also helping others improve theirs?
but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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Many of us have no problem finding the information we seek. We take advantage of the "search this forum" feature as well as a little patience and common sense. Although this forums contain a wealth of information, it is NOT a library.
IS THERE a stable, 2.3 ROM for the EVO 4G out there, that supports ALL the hardware features of the Evo?!
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There are several gingerbread roms available for you to test. CM7, SalvageMod & OMGB to name a few. They all work, but they all have quirks just like the rom that came preinstalled on your EVO.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer, but none of the ROM descriptions actually contain this information.
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Every question is simple to those who have the answers. On the pages where the aforementioned roms can be downloaded are clear descriptions of what works and what doesn't.
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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Seek and ye shall find.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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There are many alternatives for you to choose, however, I must warn you that you will have to read and search for the information you seek therefore, you might find it a bit frustrating.
Now, if you want or need help, there are many of us who will go out of our way to assist you. We enjoy helping others and we don't mind helping you. So please, post your question(s) and leave the berating comments to yourself. Enjoy the rest of your day and, by the way, I was I was helpful to you.
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Been running SalvageMod for a few days now. Not one issue.

i've been runnung destroyer v1 for 3 or 4 weeks, love it, not one issue except i can't get the hdmi out to work, which is fine cause i don't use that feature, other then that its stable enough as my daily, bluetooth, gps, 4g, everything working on my phone

You're right. It's next to impossible, specially if you're new to the forums, to find out certain details about a ROM. The wiki page for the ROMs and kernels are so outdated and rarely, if ever, mention what doesn't work on that ROM/Kernel. Doing searches yield pretty much every thread since most keywords and tags apply to all of them, understandably so. The issue can be remedied by keeping the wiki section up to date.
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.

hermanlf said:
I don't understand why everyone is so defensive. He's not attacking you, just stating a fact. Don't get me wrong, I am absolutely grateful for any forums such as this. Bringing an issue into the light should be welcome and not garner so much hostility.
Anyway... that's just MY opinion.
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Was it too much to ask of the OP to simply ask his question? The roms, mods, kernels and themes are FREE for us to use and these forums provide us with a place where we can FREELY enjoy the dedicated work of the devs and improve our overall smartphone user experience. So what, if we have to do a little bit of searching to find what we seek. Do we not search for items at a grocery store or at a retail clothing store? Do many of us not use search engines to find what we seek? The point is this: Instead of taking frustrations out on the people who control/moderate these forums, simply ask the question and let those who are willing to help answer it. If that is too much of a strain then feel free to start a forum of your own and arrange it however you see fit.
As for your comment about garnering hostility, lets review:
I know you people don't like these posts, but you should really keep the ROMS forum in order, it's such a damn mess, there's no making sense of it! it's crazy!
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That's like entering someone's house asking for a cup of sugar but then telling the person you're asking how messy his house is.
A simple question that you think would be easy to answer
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If is was so simple why was there a need to ask the question in the first place?,
And go spend 2 hours going through 300 pages of comments, most of them completely useless.
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These forums are in use 24 hours a day 7 days a week with people posting & replying almost nonstop. The pages will continue to increase and the comments he deem as useless may be important to a great deal of others.
This forum is such a horrible way to store all this information, you hackers really need to come up with an alternative.
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C'mon. Please explain to me how we should not view his comments as hostile & arrogant. Telling others that they need to do a better job at providing a better way for him to get the information he seeks as if he is a paying customer of some sort is indeed disrespectful, hostile and arrogant. PERIOD! In my opinion, of course.

wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple

CheesyNutz said:
wow i just have to say if the OP has such hate for the XDA people GTFO ! pretty simple
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'nuf said.......I try to always be respectful when helping others or when asking for help in these forums. On Twitter, my followers will quickly tell you that I tell it like it is, but I try to do so respectfully. Sometimes, I fail...lol...

CM7 for the ET4G

Its here!!!!
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13776-e4gt18dailyaosp-cm-73-a5-cm-daily-almost-nighty-thread/

Wow lol nice find I'm not mean but be prepared
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Lol flame on
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paranoid android85 said:
Lol flame on
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Am I late to this? ... LoL sorry if I am just wanted 2 share

I think it absolutely immature and retarded that people flame Bubby. He's a friggin 14 year old kid for christ sakes. Grow the hell up people, he's doing some really good work for this phone. I've been using CM7 since Alpha 4 and now on Alpha 5 it has everything except 4g which is useless to me.
90% of the ROMs for the E4GT are KANG'ed ROMs based off of Caulk's with a few different apps, a custom theme (if they bother) and some init.d scripts. That's not dev'ing, that's copy and pasting. This phone has been out forever now and Bubby is the only person to deliver us CM7, no one else Dev'ing here cared enough to do it or (or simply didn't have a friggin clue how) - so flame me, flame Bubby, who gives a **** honestly. You keep running your "custom" TW ROMs and enjoy that ****ty overlay. The rest of us will be hanging out on AOSP CM7.1.
*/soapbox*

Jess813 said:
Am I late to this? ... LoL sorry if I am just wanted 2 share
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Yup. Most people here know where to find it especially after everything that happened.
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dbaybay said:
I think it absolutely immature and retarded that people flame Bubby. He's a friggin 14 year old kid for christ sakes. Grow the hell up people, he's doing some really good work for this phone. I've been using CM7 since Alpha 4 and now on Alpha 5 it has everything except 4g which is useless to me.
90% of the ROMs for the E4GT are KANG'ed ROMs based off of Caulk's with a few different apps, a custom theme (if they bother) and some init.d scripts. That's not dev'ing, that's copy and pasting. This phone has been out forever now and Bubby is the only person to deliver us CM7, no one else Dev'ing here cared enough to do it or (or simply didn't have a friggin clue how) - so flame me, flame Bubby, who gives a **** honestly. You keep running your "custom" TW ROMs and enjoy that ****ty overlay. The rest of us will be hanging out on AOSP CM7.1.
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Nice! 4G isn't activated in my area (Virginia Beach), so no real loss there.
Downloading and trying! Will report asap.

dbaybay said:
I think it absolutely immature and retarded that people flame Bubby. He's a friggin 14 year old kid for christ sakes. Grow the hell up people, he's doing some really good work for this phone. I've been using CM7 since Alpha 4 and now on Alpha 5 it has everything except 4g which is useless to me.
90% of the ROMs for the E4GT are KANG'ed ROMs based off of Caulk's with a few different apps, a custom theme (if they bother) and some init.d scripts. That's not dev'ing, that's copy and pasting. This phone has been out forever now and Bubby is the only person to deliver us CM7, no one else Dev'ing here cared enough to do it or (or simply didn't have a friggin clue how) - so flame me, flame Bubby, who gives a **** honestly. You keep running your "custom" TW ROMs and enjoy that ****ty overlay. The rest of us will be hanging out on AOSP CM7.1.
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I have to say that he is absolutely right, NO offense to the Devs here at all but really in all honestly AOSP development is actual development, with the exception of things like TSM parts and things like that. I really can't grasp why everyone jumps on Bubby the way they do. Sure he may have done somethings that wasn't exactly the greatest things to do but he IS doing something. I have been patiently waiting for a broader AOSP selection as I am not a Dev so all I can do is wait or try to learn it "which I am but its a slow process".
I also have to say that I am shocked at the actions of some of our moderators on these boards as some seem to stir up more drama then they prevent. All im saying is cut the kid some slack. He seems to honestly be trying to do some good work. It may not be 100% fully working but its alot farther then other CM7 builds I have seen for other phones. And I also haven't seen any competitive builds that were any better.

scarmon25 said:
I have to say that he is absolutely right, NO offense to the Devs here at all but really in all honestly AOSP development is actual development, with the exception of things like TSM parts and things like that. I really can't grasp why everyone jumps on Bubby the way they do. Sure he may have done somethings that wasn't exactly the greatest things to do but he IS doing something. I have been patiently waiting for a broader AOSP selection as I am not a Dev so all I can do is wait or try to learn it "which I am but its a slow process".
I also have to say that I am shocked at the actions of some of our moderators on these boards as some seem to stir up more drama then they prevent. All im saying is cut the kid some slack. He seems to honestly be trying to do some good work. It may not be 100% fully working but its alot farther then other CM7 builds I have seen for other phones. And I also haven't seen any competitive builds that were any better.
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Amen.
10chars.

dbaybay said:
I think it absolutely immature and retarded that people flame Bubby. He's a friggin 14 year old kid for christ sakes. Grow the hell up people, he's doing some really good work for this phone. I've been using CM7 since Alpha 4 and now on Alpha 5 it has everything except 4g which is useless to me.
90% of the ROMs for the E4GT are KANG'ed ROMs based off of Caulk's with a few different apps, a custom theme (if they bother) and some init.d scripts. That's not dev'ing, that's copy and pasting. This phone has been out forever now and Bubby is the only person to deliver us CM7, no one else Dev'ing here cared enough to do it or (or simply didn't have a friggin clue how) - so flame me, flame Bubby, who gives a **** honestly. You keep running your "custom" TW ROMs and enjoy that ****ty overlay. The rest of us will be hanging out on AOSP CM7.1.
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Quoted for truth. Amen brotha
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dbaybay said:
I think it absolutely immature and retarded that people flame Bubby. He's a friggin 14 year old kid for christ sakes. Grow the hell up people, he's doing some really good work for this phone. I've been using CM7 since Alpha 4 and now on Alpha 5 it has everything except 4g which is useless to me.
90% of the ROMs for the E4GT are KANG'ed ROMs based off of Caulk's with a few different apps, a custom theme (if they bother) and some init.d scripts. That's not dev'ing, that's copy and pasting. This phone has been out forever now and Bubby is the only person to deliver us CM7, no one else Dev'ing here cared enough to do it or (or simply didn't have a friggin clue how) - so flame me, flame Bubby, who gives a **** honestly. You keep running your "custom" TW ROMs and enjoy that ****ty overlay. The rest of us will be hanging out on AOSP CM7.1.
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Um, I didn't see anyone flame bubby in here so by flaming the rest of the devs, what will that really accomplish?

[email protected] said:
Um, I didn't see anyone flame bubby in here so by flaming the rest of the devs, what will that really accomplish?
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No but its the flaming that went on XDA doesnt have CyanogenMod7 in the DEV section. You have to admit that whole situation was lame #FAIL-XDA. Seriously, from the T-mo sections threads that spilled into a Dev thread, and the Mods leading the charge! They figured bubby would quit, someone else would come to the rescue since DATA/PHONE was working and drop a KANG here, it backfired on them What about the people who said once we have CM we have ICS, where did they go? Or the ones who said now that the thief is gone we will see some real AOSP development? Where are those people/roms, please I would love to try one out? I agree he didnt need to flame the dev's, but if I recall a few Dev's were one the flame throwing side when bubby was in the "Hot Seat".

cordell12 said:
No but its the flaming that went on XDA doesnt have CyanogenMod7 in the DEV section. You have to admit that whole situation was lame #FAIL-XDA. Seriously, from the T-mo sections threads that spilled into a Dev thread, and the Mods leading the charge! They figured bubby would quit, someone else would come to the rescue since DATA/PHONE was working and drop a KANG here, it backfired on them What about the people who said once we have CM we have ICS, where did they go? Or the ones who said now that the thief is gone we will see some real AOSP development? Where are those people/roms, please I would love to try one out? I agree he didnt need to flame the dev's, but if I recall a few Dev's were one the flame throwing side when bubby was in the "Hot Seat".
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I totally agree what went down on XDA was lame and we lost out on a great dev here but no need to knock the people we do have here. We don't want to lose them as well. There is definitely enough room for everyone and then some.
Besides, I think the bubby haters have disappeared from the E4GT section anyway.

These people keep bringing that **** here, stop spamming XDA just cause you are bored at Rootzwiki, go home to your AOSP, damn!
P.S. Not hating, just stating the obvious and you all should just let it go.

I still haven't had the chance to try it out, so I don't have any personal experience to report like I said I would...
! Also: Can we get the forum replies back on track and focused on the mod itself and not Bubby? Lot of "junk" (no offense to anyone) to go through looking for insight and mod-related discussion only to find none

Koltxlvii said:
I still haven't had the chance to try it out, so I don't have any personal experience to report like I said I would...
! Also: Can we get the forum replies back on track and focused on the mod itself and not Bubby? Lot of "junk" (no offense to anyone) to go through looking for insight and mod-related discussion only to find none
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Its awesome I tried it out last night and so far Ive come to realize how much I've missed it! While I have enjoyed lots of these Roms on here people are right .... they are 90% a copy of Caulks! Lets work on CMxx from now on!

Jess813 said:
Its awesome I tried it out last night and so far Ive come to realize how much I've missed it! While I have enjoyed lots of these Roms on here people are right .... they are 90% a copy of Caulks! Lets work on CMxx from now on!
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As you can tell its a sore subject around here and unfortunately every so often someone brings it up again. Hey I am running Touchwiz, CM7(right now) and MIUI just because I like variety. The kid has done a great job like others have said. I personally don't care about his bs but honestly we got to do a better job of searching before we post since a new thread about this was just posted on 1/6 check here, with some unhappy people...LOL

playya said:
As you can tell its a sore subject around here and unfortunately every so often someone brings it up again. Hey I am running Touchwiz, CM7(right now) and MIUI just because I like variety. The kid has done a great job like others have said. I personally don't care about his bs but honestly we got to do a better job of searching before we post since a new thread about this was just posted on 1/6 check here, with some unhappy people...LOL
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Yeah I saw that sorry ....

I'm seeing the exact same thing on bubby's thread and Gman's thread on rootzwiki. Who is the real dev on this?

What is going on....

Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks

I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
Sent From E4GT CoNsTriCtEd bY B0A
"I will find you. And when i do i will Troll You."

einsteins said:
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
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Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel

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Please don't pick the ROM I'm on... you have bad luck.
Try Calkulin's... solid dev since the WinMo5 days.
-Daryel
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Calk is leaving. Remember, work phone/changing jobs. lol

There are a lot of good, active ROMs out there. Spend time in the Dev section and read through the comments, you'll be able to pick up what's still active very easily.

Things will also pick up when ICS ota comes and source drops.
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There's always a dip before an update. I speak from experience
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I dont think anyone is ditching their roms. Sometimes they just wait for something better like the ICS OTA or for source. But you have to remember that the devs have a life outside of deving. Maybe their are facing personal issues that doesnt give them time to update their roms.
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please dont misunderstand me....I fully respect the Devs have a life...I was mainly talking about Threads dissapearing or being locked. If I dev needs time that is fine as you still have the thread to ask questions or reseach issues. Once the thread goes away or is closed you are limited in your options.
Sorry if I was misunderstood...

If I deleted a thread it was because it needed to be deleted, for reasons that may not be known to the common member. There's a lot that goes on behind the scene, its not just cut and dry.
---Jay--- From the AOKP'd Nexus

Blazer has only gotten so far since ICS started leaking, I mean your coming in pretty late in the phones life. I always liked Calk's rom but since CM9 got so far so quick I am sticking with that for the life of the phone. AOKP will pick up eventually.

i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.

einsteins said:
Hi all
I am not a big active poster here but love to run different toms on my phone...
I came here from the EVO forums after a switch the the E4GT.
It seems like every time I pick a ROM it goes dead right after I flash it.
Started on Blazer...No activity for months
Moved to AOKP and a couple of days later the thread implodes and is completely gone.
Yesterday I installed paranoidandroid and that thread gets closed.
Why is everyone ditching their roms? or removing the threads when they still contain critical information that is useful?
Thanks
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I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
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I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.

cas8180 said:
I too am coming from the EVO and EVO 3D and the type of dev support and activity you are used to for those two phones just isnt the same as for the epic. We have great devs in here it just seems like they arent as active as they are for the EVO series of devices I also dont think you have near as many ROMs to choose from either.
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I would say you haven't spent near enough time in the Dev section if you don't think our level of support is on par with other phones.
Also, to the comment regarding number of ROMs, you're talking about a phone that is over two years old (EVO) and a phone that is barely 10 months old. Yes I know the EVO 3D isn't much older but it already had a base to build on coming from the OG EVO.
Besides, we're a community that believes in quality over quantity.
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Now that^^^^ answer to one above ^^^ was right on point. You are not a true android enthusiasts if you cant see the difference between these roms. Honestly I go into the Evo forum since I was a big part of that forum for a year and all I see is the same rom split in 12 different pieces. In this forum there happens to be some pretty great developers and all working on different stuff. The roms you happened to pick were by the same guy. So if his life has sent him in a different direction and he can not keep putting out quality work then either you pick it up for him or choose a different rom.
Sorry man not trying to be harsh but I just dont believe in the nice guy crap. It is what it is. Loved the Evo but in the beginning over there it was the same as it was over here. Not sure if you remember but there were like 2 roms out for a while and the steps to root were crazy(like 40 steps). My friend jump on CM9 lay back and enjoy the ride or hey you can always go back to an Evo3d

i didnt come from any other phone except the intercept(crap). and i think that CM9 has the most activity of the roms, only bcuz there are soo many phones that have been ported. and Esoteric68 is right the EVO has had way more time to come out with roms. and our phone is still fairly new compared to the EVO series. but you gotta make do with what you have, once source comes out for ICS for our phone, we'll have more roms and more things going on.

graffix31 said:
i think paraniod android just moved locations but is still active.
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Unfortunately I think its more than that... guys go read the last few pages here and this is the reason why you loose developers. Some of you have got to learn to how to relax especially if you are leeching and can not or have not contributed yourselves.

Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
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kpakpo89 said:
Man, its sad about Paranoid....I'm using that rom right now and loving it! But ever since I joined xda, I have seen a lot of closed threads due to drama...I guess that's life though
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Yes its because so many users think they are the chosen 1. I mean xda is a hell of a place if you know how to use it. I have learned to do so much just by searching these threads with any issue I have. I have themed my own stuff made changes to the system files and basically tweaked the hell out of my phone just by searching the web. My attitude is I am damn sure not the first person to ask whatever question I have to ask and knowledge is the key(hmm heard that somewhere)
With people demanding stuff and claiming stuff is broken when they are the only ones with the issue and then addressing it rudely in a thread does not make a developer WANT to do anything for you. I could go on for a while on the BS I have seen.
We need to take what these developers have given us and be grateful as well as learn how to fix some of this stuff ourselves. If you can not help yourself then either ask nicely or #gositdownsomewhere
*rant over* Playya Out!

Noooooooooo I think its because of the trollz...
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I am using ParanoidAndroid atm and it seems awesome! I hope some avenue opens so that it can stay current.

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Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
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Great idea. I have a question: What happened to Mr. Highway?
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The Archangel said:
I'm still here, just changed my name.
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Good to hear you are still around dude, this forum can't afford to lose mod's like you.
On another note, I am really hoping ppl start to calm down in the development forums. I have never witnessed anything like this on XDA before. Constant sniping is a pure waste of everybody's time and does nothing for development or enjoyment of this site. I would be interested to hear if anyone has some "positive" ideas on how to improve the situation?

The Archangel said:
thanks
all of the mods here for the S3 are working on something special
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Well, I look forward to seeing the finished product. Thanks.

GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions

andrewnelson23 said:
GUYS. I'm getting an S3 in a couple of weeks!!!! so pumped.
I'm coming from an Optimus V. Development on that phone is FANTASTIC, but I have terrible service in my hometown, and let's face it: this phone is 29395x better.
I've never really used xda much, because androidcentral is good for the OV. I checked out the ac forum for the s3, and it's awful in comparison. So I thought...I'd better get over to xda
I have a few very random questions...
I hope it's okay that I post them here...
1. What are flamers and trolls?? lol.
2. I saw a video on how to easily root the Att Galaxy S3. Seemed simple enough. However, what is this talk of 'tripping a flash counter'?? is it okay to trip the flash counter, and can I reset that later if I wanna go back to stock??
3. I guess cwm is probably the best(favorited) recovery to use??
Thanks to anyone who can answer my questions
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1. people who are rude and ignorant.
2. Use the no trip root method and everything should be fine. Tripping a flash counter is a way for att/samsung to know that you messed with your phone, it can be a problem for warranty returns, but there is an app called triangle away that should reset this. I havent tried it so I personaly cannot confirm.
3. there was a little bit of argument on which recovery was better when there was the missing imei problem, now that it is solved it doesn't really matter (all personal preference). But please don't forget to do a NV backup or at least a backup of your Imei no.
and by the way welcome to xda it is a great place for information and if you do searches first and post in the propper section the people here are great.

Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?

NightSkylar said:
Well, it surprises me this post has so little posts, so allow me to contribute
Did the S3 bring any surprises/disapointements?
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One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.

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One thing that depressed me, in which was easily resolved, was the ringtones, notifications and alarms. They honestly suck, you could at least give me one business class ringtone (a classic phone maybe). So anyways a quick search of the android market and I am overly satisfied again.
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Yes I must agree with you there, the ringtone selection wasn't what I had hoped for. Luckily they're apps which help resolve this issue

David Dee said:
Perfect place to post, good to see someone else joining myself and Archangel in this chat thread. Here are my answers to your questions:
1. Troll - Someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
Flaming - Hostile and insulting interaction between Internet users, often involving the use of profanity.
2. If you trip the flash counter and take your phone in for warranty work, Samsung will know you have flashed unsigned firmware on your phone and may deny your warranty claim. There is a working method in place to reset your trip counter back to zero but it costs a few bucks. If you root and install a custom recovery (cwm or twrp) using this method, then flash all roms using that recovery, you will not trip the counter.
3. This is up for debate, so here are the facts. CWM is the recommended recovery for most custom roms and many developers will not provide support if you flash using another recovery. On the other side of the coin, a number of people have lost their imei flashing roms (phone cannot connect to cellular network), and a theory exists that cwm may be the culprit as no one using any other recovery has experienced this loss. I personally use twrp, a touch based recovery alternative to cwm, works well and gives me comfort on the imei issue.
One more item: If you are planning to flash custom roms, make sure to backup your imei using this method. Restoring these backups has been proven to fix the issue.
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Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.

andrewnelson23 said:
Thank you so much for your answers!!!!
1. Ahh. We had some of those on the V ac forum.
2. Ohhhh. Well I'm hoping I'll never have to take it in for warranty work, but that's a nice fix!
3. I see. and twrp has no downsides, other than not being officially supported? Does it still flash any rom?? How is the compatibility of backups between the two recoveries?
On the V, I switched firmwares quite a bit with the Optimus S, so I know the importance of knowing all my cell info(nv backup, spc(msl), aaa key, ha key, etc.) Thanks so much for the link on how to backup all of this stuff, I'm sure it's different than the V haha.
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No, backups are incompatible between twrp and cwm. I have done all of my flashing with twrp, problem free.
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Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.

whiplash353 said:
Am I the the only person in semi hate with the screen i mean Engadget said pen-tile is something you wouldn't notice because of the high res but i still see it as clear as day and the whites on this phone are pretty bad. But im still going to get it over the one x even though i love sense and htc are the only droids i had i wanna try something new.
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You can only really see the pentile pattern if you actively look for it. It was far worse on my old Captivate because the resolution was much lower; on the S3... i haven't noticed it casually, but if I get up real close and examine the diff between red/green/blue diagonal lines, I can still see the crosshatch diff in red and blue (green is solid).
Much ado over nothing. Samsung said they returned to pentile for the S3 (vs nonpentile in the S2) because the screen lasts longer. I'm fine with that.
EDIT: And because this is OFF-TOPIC, let me just add........ Marklar marklar marklar?! Marklar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Anyone watch the mars landing last night? Pretty awesome.
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I watched a simulation video of its landing sequence, and it blew my mind.
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that stuff is crazy!!! Those guys are all SO smart. wonder if any of them hang out on the forums.

Where do you guys get authoritative information about Android flashing/modding/development? Like, where does a developer go?
I've read about 10 explanations of deodexing and, while I totally get the "concept," I have lots of little questions questions (are new apps also de-odexed? how can only the first boot slow? someone said they d/l'd regular files and de-odexed himself?!). All the guides explain it simplistically. Where can I find the nitty-gritty and technical explanations of these things? Some super-guide? I don't mind reading 100 pages, as long as it's thorough and authoritative.
I used to mod Sony Ericssons and, while a little difficult, there was one flashing tool, maybe 5 skins for your media player, three or four I-know-what-I'm-doing developers, and we "rooted" using a brute-force method that took sometimes 15 hours. And there was no nitty gritty, really, because, if you could edit an XML file, you were close to the end of our knowledge, haha.

Off topic
What's be happening, Romney's new VP, Mars pics..........rooted my Galaxy SIII but still running stock rom as I like it. :laugh:

10-4, luv my Galaxy!
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Today the forums that I mark as read go back to unread. Anyone else seeing this? I also noticed that the Accessories forum under all variants always appears as read while it still has unread threads, but I assume this is because it's shared forum for all the variants... right?

[Q] (ROM) People's ROM - Just Had to do a complete unroot

Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:

bmdiz said:
Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:
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Did you check to see if you had a bad download. You should have compared the md5 sums.
And ktoonz has been giving me the best battery life with all the ROMs I have tried.
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bmdiz said:
Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again.
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myself as well as tons of others are happy with TPR, sorry sir but there are no bugs (far as I can tell) with this great rom, as said sounds like you got a bad download. did you have nandroid backup? if you did you could have reverted back to that by going into recovery manually and used your backup, always, always, always backup before flashing anything :good: good luck

TPR has no bugs. The bugs where either on your download or on your device. TPR loads and is better than almost anything out there. I'm partial to it, but really feel insulted and I hope Kenny Rompnit and the rest of the crew don't see this insult of their work.
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WTH? Never ever i had a problem wirh TPR n I've been running it since it started n been a tester for the rom ever since I'm sure u have a bad download or did you do a clean install or a dirty install? I would give the ok on any version of tpr if there a problem with it loading or any other problems n we are the people we help anyone that needs helping did you post in tpr thread to get help from us we would have helped you anyway we could have
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Well.
1. Root your phone
2. Download TPR
3. CHECK md5
4. CHECK md5
5. Download stock kernel from freeza
6. Wipe Sytem/Data
7. Flash TPR
8. Choose no kernel in the install
9. Flash Stock kernel
10. Wipe Cache/Dalvik and Fix Permissions
11. Test all your things
12. Feedback
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Ooooh OP.. No you di'nt!
You done riled up The People now!
If only you had asked for help in thread or PM... The People are always there for each other.
AND you forgot the 1st rule of flashing... ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS Back up before flashing ANYTHING! With 1GB ROMs the chances of bad downloads and flashes are much greater.
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It seems extremely narcissistic and illogical to assume that there is absolutely no possibility that you made an honest mistake (or that a random network error resulted in a bad download). But anyone who has used TPR will immediately dismiss the OP as the words of an uninformed individual who lacks the effort and interest to become more informed. If those who have never used TPR aren't smart enough to recognize the fact that this claim completely contradicts at least 99.9% of the reports about the rom, then they probably won't be missed anyway, lol
OP, you basically managed to destroy any credibility you might have had with that one post. If you were hoping to troll up some drama, you chose the wrong forum and the wrong rom to target
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I think you did something wrong. I dont have any issues with my phone at all. Infact i been getting excellent performance and amazing battery life. Try downloading and flashing again. Make sure you flash the whole file, i had to set my laptop not to fall asleep while waiting to download the big file. I flashed mine dirty, but sounds luke you may want to wipe cache first and then flashing. Good luck
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before opening mouth and inserting foot please check md5 and make sure you are using a BB cable to transfer rom to phone
edit: and you are behind by 2 releases we are at 3.13 now

Lol. I download everything over 3g/now LTE and never had a bad download.
I had only one md5 fail transferring for the PC to a phone. 3 phones, and only mine had the fail.
I was :-0 "three phones and only mine is soft bricked. what a luck"
But also I had a NANDROID. So no worry.
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bmdiz said:
Hey guys I just had to do a complete unroot on my Sprint Galaxy S3 after updating my People's ROM from version 3.10 to 3.11. 3.11 would never load and was stuck in a boot-loop. Flashed it about 4 times and could never get it to work. Re-flashed back to 3.10 but the phone would just never work right. Was loving it while it lasted but now I'm looking for something else, but something close to People's ROM. Unless kennyglass and his awesome team can get all the bugs worked out. If they do, I will re-root and flash People's again. Loved having both cams, felt that the stock kernel with the ROM was sucking down the battery. Anyone have any advice on a awesome kernel that works with most if not all ROM's and is battery efficient?
Thanks in advance for the replies. :cyclops:
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Think it's just bad download OP, Been on TPR for quite some time, testing releases, never had an issue unless it was a bad download. ALWAYS Verify MD5. However, if you do decide TPR is not right for you, See the MoAR Thread. It's like TPR but different

edfunkycold said:
TPR has no bugs. The bugs where either on your download or on your device. TPR loads and is better than almost anything out there. I'm partial to it, but really feel insulted and I hope Kenny Rompnit and the rest of the crew don't see this insult of their work.
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Just because I may have had a bad download and/or something wrong with my device has nothing to do with me insulting anyone. I too loved TPR and was enjoying the hell out of it. There was nothing in my question/comment/post that was insulting in any way, shape, or form. I really think you're taking this someplace it doesn't need to go.

bmdiz said:
Just because I may have had a bad download and/or something wrong with my device has nothing to do with me insulting anyone. I too loved TPR and was enjoying the hell out of it. There was nothing in my question/comment/post that was insulting in any way, shape, or form. I really think you're taking this someplace it doesn't need to go.
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I believe The People took offense to your choice of words stating that the ROM had bugs and none of the responsibility was yours. Usually for someone to make such a statement there should be some corroboration. The first thing anyone should do is wipe data, redownload and reflash before stating there is a bug. And for you also to state you would return when we fix it when nothing was broken but perhaps your download is ludicrous. Next time ask for help in the ROM thread. The People are very accomodating and bend over backwards to anyone asking for help...not so much for self-righteousness.
Now with all that said, redownload 3.13 and ask in the ROM thread if you have any questions.

styles420 said:
It seems extremely narcissistic and illogical to assume that there is absolutely no possibility that you made an honest mistake (or that a random network error resulted in a bad download). But anyone who has used TPR will immediately dismiss the OP as the words of an uninformed individual who lacks the effort and interest to become more informed. If those who have never used TPR aren't smart enough to recognize the fact that this claim completely contradicts at least 99.9% of the reports about the rom, then they probably won't be missed anyway, lol
OP, you basically managed to destroy any credibility you might have had with that one post. If you were hoping to troll up some drama, you chose the wrong forum and the wrong rom to target
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I think some folks are just a bit melodramatic and take things where they don't need to go. As stated, I gave the entire team recognition for their work and enjoyed using TPR. Anyway, rather than sit there and bash someone for asking a honest question and assist me, you loose credibility from me, so, thanks for nothing. BTW: Who the hell is OP that everyone if referring to?.......... Never mind, I really don't need an answer from you about that.

bmdiz said:
I think some folks are just a bit melodramatic and take things where they don't need to go. As stated, I gave the entire team recognition for their work and enjoyed using TPR. Anyway, rather than sit there and bash someone for asking a honest question and assist me, you loose credibility from me, so, thanks for nothing. BTW: Who the hell is OP that everyone if referring to?.......... Never mind, I really don't need an answer from you about that.
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OP stands for: Original post, OR original poster (the person who started the thread)
But yeah, it seems like you offended quite a couple people. Did you check the rom thread to see if anyone else had issues with 3.13? It may be that the update required a full wipe before installing as well, as the nature of some updates require a clean flash instead of a dirty one
Personally, I always recommended checking for problems on your end before suggesting problems on the roms end. The developers put a lot of work into this and do it in their spare time, so suggesting that something they made, and tested extensively, has bugs doesnt exactly come off as a compliment
Not trying to patronize, but remember that all of this is strictly through text. Not everyone may interpret what you wrote in the way you intended for it to be interpreted or in the way you understand it

kennyglass123 said:
I believe The People took offense to your choice of words stating that the ROM had bugs and none of the responsibility was yours. Usually for someone to make such a statement there should be some corroboration. The first thing anyone should do is wipe data, redownload and reflash before stating there is a bug. And for you also to state you would return when we fix it when nothing was broken but perhaps your download is ludicrous. Next time ask for help in the ROM thread. The People are very accomodating and bend over backwards to anyone asking for help...not so much for self-righteousness.
Now with all that said, redownload 3.13 and ask in the ROM thread if you have any questions.
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Thanks kennyglass, no disrespect was intended in any way at all. I will follow your steps and will reflash TPR. If I have any issues I will PM you directly. Some folks just need to take a chill pill man.
Thanks for understanding.

How about you apologize to Kenny and the Team for saying that the rom had "bugs" and was "broken" when in fact there is nothing wrong with it. And take acceptance that you may have had a bad download, and may have not known what you where doing, and started a whole thread because you failed to seek help in the Rom thread where you should have in the first place. It's not that I wanted to pick on you it's your choice of words and lack of knowledge when it comes to flashing. It's better to ask questions and ask for help than to make FALSE accusations and statements in a public forum.
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edfunkycold said:
How about you apologize to Kenny and the Team for saying that the rom had "bugs" and was "broken" when in fact there is nothing wrong with it. And take acceptance that you may have had a bad download, and may have not known what you where doing, and started a whole thread because you failed to seek help in the Rom thread where you should have in the first place. It's not that I wanted to pick on you it's your choice of words and lack of knowledge when it comes to flashing. It's better to ask questions and ask for help than to make FALSE accusations and statements in a public forum.
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Check your PM PAL