Am I screwed? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Today my Fire TV Stick auto-updated to 5.0.5.1. It was rooted with Kingroot, but I've been too busy to get around to blocking updates or anything else.
Is there any hope to ever root it again?

Glaux said:
Today my Fire TV Stick auto-updated to 5.0.5.1. It was rooted with Kingroot, but I've been too busy to get around to blocking updates or anything else.
Is there any hope to ever root it again?
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For now it is no other way to root it if upgraded to OS5.0.5.1

Check aftvnews.com There is a method to root with the usb cable working on your OS version

guiso98 said:
Check aftvnews.com There is a method to root with the usb cable working on your OS version
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Not with a stick.

AFAIK there is no regular root besides Kingroot known for the stick.

Well, turns out it doesn't matter because the device is ****ed now for some reason. It has trouble booting up and won't even detect my WiFi AP.
I wonder if it's because of the update.

Glaux said:
Well, turns out it doesn't matter because the device is ****ed now for some reason. It has trouble booting up and won't even detect my WiFi AP.
I wonder if it's because of the update.
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Have you tried to uninstall any apps you installed & then doing a factory reset ? Wonder if KingRoot left some stuff behind that are messing things up too.

sorry to but in here
but can i root and block OTA on brand new stick?
can i get root if my stick is not already setup new out of the box?
or do i have to update from whatever fw it shipped with to the latest to get adb and unknown apps turned on?

gdroid666 said:
sorry to but in here
but can i root and block OTA on brand new stick?
can i get root if my stick is not already setup new out of the box?
or do i have to update from whatever fw it shipped with to the latest to get adb and unknown apps turned on?
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It depends what FW it comes with & if it comes with any FW update baked in. And if it comes with rootable FW. Then how fast can you turn ADB Debugging ON & run the "Block Update" commands.
All the best guides are found here: http://www.aftvnews.com/start/
Note: FTVS's = 1st-gen
The 1st-gen Fire TV can be rooted, using an app called KingRoot, if it is running software version 5.0.0 thru 5.0.5. Custom recovery and pre-rooted ROMs that are compatible with KingRoot rooted devices are currently in the works and will be released soon. Until those become available, it is recommended that you block software updates to ensure your Fire TV remains on a rootable software version and wait for custom recovery to be released. Once the pre-rooted ROMs and custom recovery are released, I will write a guide for rooting the Fire TV running 5.0.0 to 5.0.5 and update this page. It is important to block updates because Fire TV software version 5.0.5.1 and up block the KingRoot rooting method.
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This is what I would try:
I would connect the FTVS to a routers Wifi that does NOT have internet working (By unplugging the modems Cat5 cable that goes from the modem to the router). I would turn on the internet once I got to the login/register Amazon Account page. As soon as I got past the login/register Amazon Account page I would disabled the internet again (By unplugging the modems Cat5 cable that goes from the modem to the router) while keeping the internetless wifi still working. Then I would rush to turn on ADB Debugging while also checking the FW version it came on. Then on that same internetless router I would block updates thru ADB.
Using Method 2 of this guide: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
Just tested unplugging my modem Cat5 cable from my router. Although I did get a nag saying Network Error. I was just able dismiss it & continue on to the Settings. So I believe it should work. The trick is to give it enough internet to get past the login screen but not enough to download the latest FW update. And then BLOCK THE UPDATES THRU ADB DEBUGGING OFFLINE but still thru your router.
Then you can continue to ROOT if that's what you want. But there are no PreRooted FW for 1st Gen devices at this time. But soon there will be.
NOTE: If the latest FW 5.0.5.1 is already baked in from factory then there is nothing that can be done. But I think is to soon for devices to start showing like that.

thanks but in episode 34 of AFTV new he specifically says he has a guide specifically for getting past the initial update on a brand new fire tv stick, but i can not find it on the website, it asks what device you are rooting then it asks what FW you have but i obviously can't see that , i need the instructions for blocking initial update so his start guide needs to be updated to include and option like new fire tv stick unknown FW black ck initial update
he says in episode 34 that you can link tot eh guide for blocking intitial update on a new device from the root start guide but i cant find it
NM i found the guide

gdroid666 said:
thanks but in episode 34 of AFTV new he specifically says he has a guide specifically for getting past the initial update on a brand new fire tv stick, but i can not find it on the website, it asks what device you are rooting then it asks what FW you have but i obviously can't see that , i need the instructions for blocking initial update so his start guide needs to be updated to include and option like new fire tv stick unknown FW black ck initial update
he says in episode 34 that you can link tot eh guide for blocking intitial update on a new device from the root start guide but i cant find it
NM i found the guide
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He linked it on the Eps. 34 notes:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-complete-the-fire-tv-initial-setup-without-updating/

Y314K said:
He linked it on the Eps. 34 notes:
thanks i already found it but here is one thing i do not understand
he says you can use open DNS to block the amazon update servers to prevent the initial update but is this not impossible?
how can you possibly do this? don't you have to get past the setup screen and initial update to access the setting menu on the fire tv stick?
so how could you configure it to use open DNS if you can't get into settings until after you update and set it up?
is there some other way of accessing settings menu without going through initial setup? would this not defeat the whole purpose? if i can get into settings i can turn on adb and block updates, or is there a way to make it use open DNS without getting into the settings menu, this does not even make sense
correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't you already need to be past the initial setup to get into the settings menu to configure the fire tv stick to use open DNS in the 1st place?
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gdroid666 said:
thanks i already found it but here is one thing i do not understand
he says you can use open DNS to block the amazon update servers to prevent the initial update but is this not impossible?
how can you possibly do this? don't you have to get past the setup screen and initial update to access the setting menu on the fire tv stick?
so how could you configure it to use open DNS if you can't get into settings until after you update and set it up?
is there some other way of accessing settings menu without going through initial setup? would this not defeat the whoele purpose? if i can get into settings i can turn on adb and block updates, or is there a way to make it use open DNS without getting into the settings menu, this does not even make sense
correct me if i'm wrong but wouldn't you already need to be past the intial setup to get into the settings menu to configure the fire tv stick to use open DNS int he 1st place?
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That is why I wrote the instructions I wrote. It's much faster to only plug in the Cat5e cable for internet to the router just to get past the Amazon login/registration page then to change DNS settings on the device. Once you have unplugged the internet Ca5e cable from your router. Then you have all the time in the world to mess with settings (ADB Debbuging &/or DNS) on the device. You might even be able to Root the device OFFLine (Although I've never read someone do it this way).
Plugging & plugging the internet Cat5e cable will only take seconds to get past the login/register screen. We are hopping those seconds will not be enough time for the update to download.
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@gdroid666
Blocking thru OpenDNS first should work fine. Since When you first boot your FTVS you will first be ask to connect to a Network before you are asked to login/register to an Amazon account. There should be an "Advanced" option when assigning your Wifi values. Which will let you input OpenDNS settings like in the 2nd Option of the following guide.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-manu...server-on-an-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/
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Make sure you follow the "Configure password protected Wireless Connection". But use the OpenDNS values: 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 . Make sure you have already created an OpenDNS account & registered your IP on that account. AKA follow the guides over a AFTVNews.com

Y314K said:
That is why I wrote the instructions I wrote. It's much faster to only plug in the Cat5e cable for internet to the router just to get past the Amazon login/registration page then to change DNS settings on the device. Once you have unplugged the internet Ca5e cable from your router. Then you have all the time in the world to mess with settings (ADB Debbuging &/or DNS) on the device. You might even be able to Root the device OFFLine (Although I've never read someone do it this way).
Plugging & plugging the internet Cat5e cable will only take seconds to get past the login/register screen. We are hopping those seconds will not be enough time for the update to download.
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yes i plan on doing that and also on blocking the update domains in my router too
i am just wondering why he would tell us to do something that is impossible to do
also i watched his video so if i do the unplug the cable bit then do i do it both times or just 1st time? there is 2 points where he says to kill the internet
nothing this guy says makes any god damn sense
1st thing he tells us to do is physically impossible the = watch his video
in his video he shows he already has a wifi connection setup and he lets it check for updates, then he does it again and says to kill the internet connection before it gets to the checking for updates step so which is it?let it go to check for updates or don;t let it go to check for updates? why does he do it twice?, i don't understand this **** at all ,
and people are reporting that blocking the updates in the router is not working so if i followed his guide i would be updated because he let it go to checking for updates and depended on router blocking which is reported as not reliable

gdroid666 said:
yes i plan on doing that and also on blocking the update domains in my router too
i am just wondering why he would tell us to do something that is impossible to do
also i watched his video so if i do the unplug the cable bit then do i do it both times or just 1st time? there is 2 points where he says to kill the internet
nothing this guy says makes any god damn sense
1st thing he tells us to do is physically impossible the = watch his video
in his video he shows he already has a wifi connection setup and he lets it check for updates, then he does it again and says to kill the internet connection before it gets to the checking for updates step so which is it?let it go to check for updates or don;t let it go to check for updates? why does he do it twice?, i don't understand this **** at all ,
and people are reporting that blocking the updates in the router is not working so if i followed his guide i would be updated because he let it go to checking for updates and depended on router blocking which is reported as not reliable
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I think your just misreading things. I base everything I do to my FTV(S)'s on AFTVNews.com guides. I just tweak things to fit my exact options. Elias knows what he is doing. And I completely trust him & his guides. There has been a bunch of changes the last week. But his guides have been updated & are still correct. I will try to explain the parts you are misreading. I always make sure I understand all the steps I am going to take before modding anything. Your doing what I would do. And that is to ask ?'s until I understand things. Will try to help you. Gonna refresh my recollection of his video walk-thru & will post back an explanation of the steps & my recommendations.

Y314K said:
I think your just misreading things. I base everything I do to my FTV(S)'s on AFTVNews.com guides. I just tweak things to fit my exact options. Elias knows what he is doing. And I completely trust him & his guides. There has been a bunch of changes the last week. But his guides have been updated & are still correct. I will try to explain the parts you are misreading. I always make sure I understand all the steps I am going to take before modding anything. Your doing what I would do. And that is to ask ?'s until I understand things. Will try to help you. Gonna refresh my recollection of his video walk-thru & will post back an explanation of the steps & my recommendations.
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yeah i'm sure he know what he is doing but his video on preventing initial update was not good
i am about to say F it and give up my router sucks and website blocking is not working , never but linksys/ cisco they ripped me off and their product is awful
i never used blocking before but it does not work this is just too complicated to do i give up
F it i will just return it and buy an android box
i know nothing about networking and i HATE having to mess with my router and settings i never do and now i get in there and do everything i read to do and it does not block anything i put in there
i never used open DNS before either and do not know which IP i am supposed to link it to, home IP what is that? IP v4 , IPv6 where do i even get that? cmd , ipconfig?
i really know nothing about networking or routers or DNS

@gdroid666
AFTVNews guides are made for multiple devices @ different steps of the process. This might confuse some. But reviewing & asking ?'s should help those few.
Make sure you understand step by step what you are doing before getting started.
Don't get fixated on the video or anything you don't understand right now. You will get thru it.
No ? is a dumb ?. Even if you have to ask it dozens of time until you get an answer you understand.
Try to be as specific as possible so nothing falls thru the cracks.
All the info below has been glean from AFTVNews.com guides.
Your specific ? was how to block updates & root a FTVS that is NIB (New In Box).
Blocking updates thru the router is not dependable anymore. Amazon started to use HTTPS which most routers can not block.
Blocking updates thru the OpenDNS method is the only option to block updates before an FTVS ever goes online.
After blocking the updates thru OpenDNS then you block the update thru ADB. And that should get you set until there is a ROM for FTVS's. You can choose to root now or to wait.
All this steps have guides. And they are very easy to follow. I can do a breakdown for you if you want.

ok trying to setup an open DNS account but this guide leaves out tons of stuff it is asking me all kinds of stuff like what kinds of device, i picked router , what router , i picked my brand linksys, my model is not listed now it wants me to go into the router and put in all kinds of settings, etc etc etc do i have to do all of this i have no idea what i am doing here

gdroid666 said:
ok trying to setup an open DNS account but this guide leaves out tons of stuff it is asking me all kinds of stuff like what kinds of device, i picked router , what router , i picked my brand linksys, my model is not listed now it wants me to go into the router and put in all kinds of settings, etc etc etc do i have to do all of this i have no idea what i am doing here
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http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/#router
Only follow the Method 4 Guide. You should be able to skip setting up your router info. And only setup the parts in the guide. And you shouldn't do any changes in your router. Actually setting up your router shouldn't be to difficult. And would give the best results. But IT IS NOT REQUIRED for the block to work. As long as your IP doesn't change constantly. And specially when your booting up the FTVS for the first time. Also finding your IP address is easy. You should be able to get it from https://dnsleaktest.com & from https://www.myip.ms & tons of other website. I only run on iPv4. So check to make sure what iPv your ISP runs on. And report back.

Y314K said:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-software-updates-on-the-amazon-fire-tv-or-fire-tv-stick/#router
Only follow the Method 4 Guide. You should be able to skip setting up your router info. And only setup the parts in the guide. And you shouldn't do any changes in your router. Also finding your IP address is easy. You should be able to get it from https://dnsleaktest.com & from https://www.myip.ms & tons of other website. I only run on iPv4. So check to make sure what iPv your ISP runs on. And report back.
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i don't know the guide is incomplete when i try and set up the account for open DNS the home one it says , it says i have to chose a device there are 4 options home router, computer workstations and laptops ,smart devices and servers
i chose home router (recommended)
then it asks what brand i pick my brand , linksys, then it asks what model , my model is not listed i pick generic configuration , then it says to go into router settings and enter these numbers/ addresses for static DNS 1 ,2, 3
i did that and saved the settings in my router then it says next test your new settings, but everytime i do it it just says failed and then loops me back to the pick device page again , one big loop i can not complete the open DNS registration setup , what do i do?

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[q] got new AFTV, stuck on updating page after blocking domains

So I just got an AFTV off of eBay and it looks like I have a rootable version (no alternating language to german on the start screen) but after blocking the domains on my router, it still wants to update and doesn't seem to go past that to the initial setup like the guides say. I know some people had this issue, but am confused what my options are now.
Thanks in advance
EDIT: so i saw someone suggest using the dnsmasq option in Tomato routers to redirect the amazon servers to go to 127.0.0.1 which i did. now the screen says it's "trying to update but cannot contact our services. we will keep trying". after a few more minutes its asking me to unplug my power for a few seconds and then try again
Make sure you're NOT blocking "firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com".
barrist said:
So I just got an AFTV off of eBay and it looks like I have a rootable version (no alternating language to german on the start screen) but after blocking the domains on my router, it still wants to update and doesn't seem to go past that to the initial setup like the guides say. I know some people had this issue, but am confused what my options are now.
Thanks in advance
EDIT: so i saw someone suggest using the dnsmasq option in Tomato routers to redirect the amazon servers to go to 127.0.0.1 which i did. now the screen says it's "trying to update but cannot contact our services. we will keep trying". after a few more minutes its asking me to unplug my power for a few seconds and then try again
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Somehow got it to work!
Saw a comment on aftv news about letting it start to download the update and then quickly block one of the domains, and then letting it attempt to install it (and fail presumably). booted up, signed into amazon and was on a rootable firmware! woot!
Unable to update your Amazon Fire TV
I ran into the similar issue with "Unable to update your Amazon Fire TV"
I took a longer route. I signed up for OPENDNS's free service and and blocked the domain names there.
Then I updated my router's DNS seeting with the OPENDNS server and also used KEYWORD block in the router to block all the version of the software like "51.1.4.0_user_514006420". I only blocked the version for which there's no root available. I got all the version from this site
aftvnews
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After doing all this I was able to move past the "Unable to update your Amazon Fire TV" screen and move forward.
-Apologize I didn't want to hijack your thread but I thought I post my own experience from today.
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I ran into the similar issue with "Unable to update your Amazon Fire TV"
I took a longer route. I signed up for OPENDNS's free service and and blocked the domain names there.
Then I updated my router's DNS seeting with the OPENDNS server and also used KEYWORD block in the router to block all the version of the software like "51.1.4.0_user_514006420". I only blocked the version for which there's no root available. I got all the version from this site .
After doing all this I was able to move past the "Unable to update your Amazon Fire TV" screen and move forward.
-Apologize I didn't want to hijack your thread but I thought I post my own experience from today.
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Wish I had seen this today before setting up a unit..... blocking the 2 urls that update no longer works..... There must be a new server for the updates.
Tried both of those options today, but unfortunately neither worked for me. It simply stopped and said to reboot and try again. Nothing would allow me to get past the download screen. Glad it worked for you though!
Hi
I have now a new ftv2 logedin with amazon account made one upgrade to 5.0.4 rooted it installed TWRP v6 3.0.0.5 installed latest Pre-Rooted 5.2.1.1 ROM for the Amazon Fire TV 2 and it worked, then I though as recommended to make full wipe (aftv guid) to get rid of kingo/king root. Now i still have a working recovery, but cant pass to the register screen, I only get to choose wifi and then "unable to update fire tv screen"
My regular wifi is blocking amazon updates(already have firtv 1 and 2 ftv sticks all rooted)
for testing I deactivated the blocks, didnt make a difference.
used wfi hotspot from phone, also did not work.
then I though downgrading to older pre rooted images could work but no change.
Did I miss something? any ideas thanks in advance
Solution: I had to unregister the Fire TV from https://www.amazon.com then it worked, found it an older xda post,

How to unroot a Fire TV completely?

I can't seem to find a definitive answer to this. For a variety of reasons I would like to uproot my Fire TV. It currently has Busybox, Clockwork Mod, Su, Towelroot installed. It also has Amazon updates blocked. Is the process as simple as installing the latest firmware, after unlocking Amazon updates. That is, will the update take care of removing anything added to the unit by me ( Busybox for example)?
Thanks...philip
Sent from my Fire HDX.
AFTVnews has a guide on returning to stock:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-revert-an-amazon-fire-tv-back-to-stock-recovery-and-stock-software/
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AFTVnews has a guide on returning to stock:
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Thanks. I had read that excellent guide before. It requires ClockworkMod and retains root if you select an appropriate firmware. This doesn't seem to restore a Fire TV to the state it was bought. For instance, ClockworkMod would still be there and perhaps even Amazon update blocking.
I should have been clearer with my intent. I would like to know how to restore a Fire TV to the state that it came when purchased. That is, I want to know how to remove any traces of me having touched it!
Sent from my Fire HDX.
If you want to unroot it, Id sell the one you have rooted ( since they are becoming like ghosts now ) and buy one with the money profited.
pmcdunnough said:
I can't seem to find a definitive answer to this. For a variety of reasons I would like to uproot my Fire TV. It currently has Busybox, Clockwork Mod, Su, Towelroot installed. It also has Amazon updates blocked. Is the process as simple as installing the latest firmware, after unlocking Amazon updates. That is, will the update take care of removing anything added to the unit by me ( Busybox for example)?
Thanks...philip
Sent from my Fire HDX.
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It's very easy to unroot & get it back to stock with the AFTV Utility app. You don't need CWM. But I feel like a traitor telling you how... :crying: Sell or exchange the unit with someone stuck with a unrootable one. Make them pay for shipping for both units. Don't kill the root...
Let me know if you still want me to give you the step-by-step...
Y314K said:
It's very easy to unroot & get it back to stock with the AFTV Utility app. You don't need CWM. But I feel like a traitor telling you how... :crying: Sell or exchange the unit with someone stuck with a unrootable one. Make them pay for shipping for both units. Don't kill the root...
Let me know if you still want me to give you the step-by-step...
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Sorry to make you feel bad, but it it's any consolation I sold a rooted Chromecast to someone who would make better use of it ( at the same price as an unrootable Chromecast). So, although I understand that this is a bit difficult, I would really appreciate the step-by-step process. I am currently running CWM, latest rooted firmware, busybox free, su, Amazon updates blocked. I would like them all gone via the process and the unit back to stock.
Thank you,
Philip
mroneeyedboh said:
If you want to unroot it, Id sell the one you have rooted ( since they are becoming like ghosts now ) and buy one with the money profited.
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Not in it for any profit. Just like trying out different media players. They kind of come and go on a regular basis. But I do get the logic behind your suggestion.
The ability to return something to stock is important for everyone even if it were just a warranty issue ( not the case here though). I've seen quite a few threads on the subject for tablets and phones, just not the Fire TV.
The current Fire TV is pretty open as shipped. This is very different than the Apple TV situation or Chromecast where rooted units became priced at unbelievable levels. The main advantage of rooted FTV's seems to be centered around the USB port or turning it into an XBMC box with the Amazon GUI hidden.
Philip
pmcdunnough said:
Sorry to make you feel bad, but it it's any consolation I sold a rooted Chromecast to someone who would make better use of it ( at the same price as an unrootable Chromecast). So, although I understand that this is a bit difficult, I would really appreciate the step-by-step process. I am currently running CWM, latest rooted firmware, busybox free, su, Amazon updates blocked. I would like them all gone via the process and the unit back to stock.
Thank you,
Philip
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NP... Also Linux sideloading is coming too... Along with custom kernels, overclocking, Rom's, etc... But they will all need rooot...
So what you do with the APP is...
Make sure you keep the update IP's blocked in your router if you want to root in the future.
Using the latest AFTV Utility Change Recovery to "recovery-stock-51.1.0.img"
This will kill root & it should restart the FTV to Stock Recovery. If not you can hit "Reboot to Recovery" in the app.
From the Stock Recovery do a Factory Reset & also a "clear cache" only. Then reboot the FTV & enjoy the startup video again.
You can do the Factory Reset from the Menu/System too. But you won't be able to clean the cache from there. The Factory Reset is what actually gets rid of any installed apps.
Then you should now have a back to stock AFTV. And you can choose to update to a non-rootable FW. Once you stop blocking the IP's...
You can find how to manually tell it to update in the System Menu.
I"ve never actually booted in the stock recovery so not sure what it looks like and if it has the same options as CWM. But if it doesn't you can go into Menu/System and do the Factory Reset from there.
You can clear cache & do Factory Reset from stock recovery..
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NOTE: Since you mention you had CWM already... Here is a post that would help you wipe stuff thru CWM & Factory reset before unrooting thru the recovery shot.. WIll come out with an alternative way to fully clear cache's & format stuff in the future... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/q-cwm-factory-reset-leaves-stuff-t2928521 ) The jest of it is you never format system unless you are ready to flash FW again before any reboot thru CWM.
pmcdunnough said:
Thanks. I had read that excellent guide before. It requires ClockworkMod and retains root if you select an appropriate firmware. This doesn't seem to restore a Fire TV to the state it was bought. For instance, ClockworkMod would still be there and perhaps even Amazon update blocking.
I should have been clearer with my intent. I would like to know how to restore a Fire TV to the state that it came when purchased. That is, I want to know how to remove any traces of me having touched it!
Sent from my Fire HDX.
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As stated in the first sentence of that guide, it will "revert back to the stock recovery and stock software". In other words, ClockworkMod would be gone. Following that guide and doing a factory reset afterwards would leave the Fire TV in a fully stock state without root and without the update blocking.
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As stated in the first sentence of that guide, it will "revert back to the stock recovery and stock software". In other words, ClockworkMod would be gone. Following that guide and doing a factory reset afterwards would leave the Fire TV in a fully stock state without root and without the update blocking.
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I had read the guide. I think I was confused by the meaning of stock recovery. I kept thinking that CWM would still be there as well as my modifications. My misunderstanding. Sorry about that.
Well now I have two ways to proceed. I guess applying both will guarantee I will never again be root
Philip
Sent from my Fire HDX.
pmcdunnough said:
I had read the guide. I think I was confused by the meaning of stock recovery. I kept thinking that CWM would still be there as well as my modifications. My misunderstanding. Sorry about that.
Well now I have two ways to proceed. I guess applying both will guarantee I will never again be root
Philip
Sent from my Fire HDX.
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Both AFTVNews great guide & the AFTV Utility method are doing the exact same thing... You only need to choose one that you are most comfortable with. Specially since you can't unroot twice. All you would be doing by doing it twice is installing stock recovery on top of stock recovery...
Edited the instructions for your specific purpose.
kraqh3d said:
AFTVnews has a guide on returning to stock:
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-revert-an-amazon-fire-tv-back-to-stock-recovery-and-stock-software/
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Since XBMC/KODI is now an official app and the icon shows up on the home screen I don't feel the need to be rooted and have all the extra stuff installed. I followed this guide on both of my FTV's, worked great I'm back to stock like I wanted to be with the latest software installed. Netflix is updated and working great, it was stuck on an older version before. Best of all the 5ghz band stays connected now (2.4ghz was strong but 5ghz would not stay connected) and buffering on 1080p files is non existent.
My only issue now is that on one of my FTV boxes when I check for updates it throws an update error, I think I may have forgotten to "enable OTA updates" in the fire tv utility app before I removed SU, xposed, towel root, clockworkmod etc.. All router level update DNS blocks have been removed and my other FTV can scan for updates with no problem (I did remember to enable OTA updates in the fire tv utility app for this box). I can install apps, I'm just getting that error message when I scan for an update to the FTV software.
Am I screwed now? Will I not be able to get OTA updates in the future? Perhaps I need to do a factory reset to enable them?
Both are on:
51.1.4.3_user_514020320 stock software
51.1.3.0_user_513011520 stock recovery
Thanks in advance!
MxChris said:
Since XBMC/KODI is now an official app and the icon shows up on the home screen I don't feel the need to be rooted and have all the extra stuff installed. I followed this guide on both of my FTV's, worked great I'm back to stock like I wanted to be with the latest software installed. Netflix is updated and working great, it was stuck on an older version before. Best of all the 5ghz band stays connected now (2.4ghz was strong but 5ghz would not stay connected) and buffering on 1080p files is non existent.
My only issue now is that on one of my FTV boxes when I check for updates it throws an update error, I think I may have forgotten to "enable OTA updates" in the fire tv utility app before I removed SU, xposed, towel root, clockworkmod etc.. All router level update DNS blocks have been removed and my other FTV can scan for updates with no problem (I did remember to enable OTA updates in the fire tv utility app for this box). I can install apps, I'm just getting that error message when I scan for an update to the FTV software.
Am I screwed now? Will I not be able to get OTA updates in the future? Perhaps I need to do a factory reset to enable them?
Both are on:
51.1.4.3_user_514020320 stock software
51.1.3.0_user_513011520 stock recovery
Thanks in advance!
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If you left updates disabled, a factory reset will clear it.

[Q] AFTV rooting won't work

I got a new box today from Amazon Germany and I blocked the 2 domains before running the first set up.
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
Now its stuck after gathering network information right after language selection.
It tells me ‘the internet connection is interupted, check cabeling and router settings’.
What can I do now?
Leghorn said:
I got a new box today from Amazon Germany and I blocked the 2 domains before running the first set up.
amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net
softwareupdates.amazon.com
Now its stuck after gathering network information right after language selection.
It tells me ‘the internet connection is interupted, check cabeling and router settings’.
What can I do now?
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No need to block those domains right now, you can't root anyway. Allow them to get through the setup, then block them after if you want.
The setup is done. Unfortunately without rooting.
Anyhow I've tried to block further updates. But when I add one of the both amazon-url I got network issue message and all content from amazon prime is gone.
My current firmware version is 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 and I heard the next firmware update installs the following:
“Self destruct” eFuse added to kernel which gets triggered if an older bootloader is used. This means Fire TVs that update to stock 51.1.4.1_user_514013920 can never be downgraded, even if a method to root them is discovered.
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Any idea how to prevent updates?
Leghorn said:
The setup is done. Unfortunately without rooting.
Anyhow I've tried to block further updates. But when I add one of the both amazon-url I got network issue message and all content from amazon prime is gone.
My current firmware version is 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 and I heard the next firmware update installs the following:
Any idea how to prevent updates?
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My router is old so I had to use OpenDNS to block the sites listed in your first post. It seems to work because if I type in either of those websites in my browser I get a
"website blocked" message. At the moment I'm on 51.1.4.0_user_514006420 too.
I'm able to get Prime Video and no network issues.
I got the same network issue like Leghorn on the FW version 51.1.4.0_user_514006420. I also blocked the two domains in my router and have no more access to the prime content.
Leghorn, have you found a solution now? Or has anybody else an idea what i can do to get access to prime content?
Regards
Jogi173
If you are using a Fritz!Box try the following changes in your settings:
1.) In tab "Filter" -> "Listen" disable the setting "Teredo-Filter aktiv"
2.) In tab "Zugangsprofile" check your blacklist profile and enable " HTTPS-Abfragen erlauben"
Probably these setting changes may allow Prime Video again.
Calibaan said:
If you are using a Fritz!Box try the following changes in your settings:
1.) In tab "Filter" -> "Listen" disable the setting "Teredo-Filter aktiv"
2.) In tab "Zugangsprofile" check your blacklist profile and enable " HTTPS-Abfragen erlauben"
Probably these setting changes may allow Prime Video again.
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Hi Calibaan,
yes i'm using a Fritz!Box. I will try it when i'm at home.
Thank you for your advice I will report if it works.
Jogi173
Hey Calibaan,
I enabled the option "HTTPS-Abfragen erlauben" and now it works.
Thank you very much!
Jogi173

[Q] New Fire Tv 51.1.1.0

Hello, I've just received my AFTV "DSN 70900305....and it's on 51.1.1.0"
I looked at the aftvnews site about blocking updates before rooting, I'm using a dd-wrt router and i read some comments & people were saying it's not blocking the update sites because of the URL or the sites don't work no more which has me a little scared to put on the AFTV while my router is on.
Can some guide me step by step on how to proceed? Do I need to block updates 1st or can I root w/out an internet connection?
I mainly want it for Kodi but at the same time I want to be able to customize it to my own liking.
nickyb003 said:
Hello, I've just received my AFTV "DSN 70900305....and it's on 51.1.1.0"
I looked at the aftvnews site about blocking updates before rooting, I'm using a dd-wrt router and i read some comments & people were saying it's not blocking the update sites because of the URL or the sites don't work no more which has me a little scared to put on the AFTV while my router is on.
Can some guide me step by step on how to proceed? Do I need to block updates 1st or can I root w/out an internet connection?
I mainly want it for Kodi but at the same time I want to be able to customize it to my own liking.
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How do you know it's on 51.1.1.0? Have you finished the initial set-up? If so connect and root it quick (takes few seconds to send SuperSU and Towelroot app to fireTv, disconnect from net set them up as per below procedure) then re-connect and use adb to block updates. if you read and do your homework this should not take longer then a minute.
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-amazon-fire-tv-update-to-ensure-rooting/
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-block-ota-update-for-amazon-fire-tv-and-keep-root-access/
http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-root-the-amazon-fire-tv/
Thank you
I got through...when the update started I had the option to cancel and take my time side loading the apps. It's now rooted on 51.1.1.0.

AFTV 1gen - No Updates, blocked by Amazon?

Hey Guys, hope this Question is not too stupid
Just read the amazon is going to update the AFTV 1gen to FireOS5 soon - so i wanted to get the latest OS3 for my Boxes, and disabled the url-blocking.
Anyhow, its now open for two hours, and both dont find any update. Its running on 51.1.6.1_USER_516010220, so there should be definitly a new version available.
Is it likely that amazon stopped pushing new updates, as os5 will arrive soon? Or is it a normal behavior that it doesnt find any new version after a few hours?
Just want to avoid getting updated to os5 too early, but as my version has still some bugs (like bluetooth-delay) i'd love to see it getting updated to the last stable os3...
The operative word is "soon." It's not out yet.
Well - maybe i asked it wrong?
Its not about when the new OS is out - its about why i dont get the latest OS3
Did you try forcing a check in Settings or were you just waiting for it to auto-update?
Did you try rebooting the Fire TV? I'm not sure if you are actually using URL blocking (as you say) or just domain name blocking (as what is typically described here and on various other sites), but if the latter, the Fire TV may have a DNS cache with the "invalid" IP address.
My AFTV got in September the last Update!
Yes thanks - i guess it was the DNS-caching. After leaving it for day as it was, finally a manual check was successful. Cheers!
dafunkydan said:
Yes thanks - i guess it was the DNS-caching. After leaving it for day as it was, finally a manual check was successful. Cheers!
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I've experienced the same thing. I've powered on an AFTV that has been off for a few months and it doesn't update even though it's on software that is several versions old. I've found that making it forget and reconnect to a network helps get it to find the update. Factory reseting also helps.

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