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[Q] Is G3 still good buy vs S5, M8 eye, Z3c?

Hi guys, its time to buy a new phone, retire my XSP and use the new phone for about 2 years so Im looking for the best solution, want a device which will get andorid M.. I like G3 the most because of its look, and some its features like knock on., IR blaster, etc. But I read all over about its bad battery life, lag and some cracked lines on the edges, and I want a safe buy, dont have money to buy another for some time. So please give me your opinion would you buy it again now or some other device from list I can afford (S5, M8 eye, Z3c)? Thank you. Would like a phone with front facing speakers, good camera, IR, and good battery life but i guess it doesn't exist, either M8 and M8eye fail in something, and G3 can work with 1W back speaker if other things are good.

G3 here ,,

NestorC said:
Hi guys, its time to buy a new phone, retire my XSP and use the new phone for about 2 years so Im looking for the best solution, want a device which will get andorid M.. I like G3 the most because of its look, and some its features like knock on., IR blaster, etc. But I read all over about its bad battery life, lag and some cracked lines on the edges, and I want a safe buy, dont have money to buy another for some time. So please give me your opinion would you buy it again now or some other device from list I can afford (S5, M8 eye, Z3c)? Thank you. Would like a phone with front facing speakers, good camera, IR, and good battery life but i guess it doesn't exist, either M8 and M8eye fail in something, and G3 can work with 1W back speaker if other things are good.
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I absolutely love my G3 which I bought 2 months ago. The only thing I feel as a issue is that it battery life(which is not that bad ) and the overheating issues. But after installing a custom rom the problems are log gone. The device is excellent and is worth the money. Love it.

Dont trust the internet. They are .......
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well u are asking on buying a g3 in a g3 forum haha

Sreerag ag said:
I absolutely love my G3 which I bought 2 months ago. The only thing I feel as a issue is that it battery life(which is not that bad ) and the overheating issues. But after installing a custom rom the problems are log gone. The device is excellent and is worth the money. Love it.
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How much "not that bad" battery life?
intruda119 said:
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So you dont have any problems, and not cracked frame?
Meta7 said:
well u are asking on buying a g3 in a g3 forum haha
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I know, I do it because you know the best is it good or not, because you own it, and you know do you regret buying it and would you buy it again now or some other phone

NestorC said:
How much "not that bad" battery life?
So you dont have any problems, and not cracked frame?
I know, I do it because you know the best is it good or not, because you own it, and you know do you regret buying it and would you buy it again now or some other phone
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honestly. i dont regret getting a lg g3. it is probably the best phone i have got in my life. For its price right now, the lg g3 is probably one of the best phone u can find for that kind of money.

Meta7 said:
honestly. i dont regret getting a lg g3. it is probably the best phone i have got in my life. For its price right now, the lg g3 is probably one of the best phone u can find for that kind of money.
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Thanks, in my case, S5 and G3 cost the same, so Its just about specs and which one showed better in real everyday usage.

Battery isn't that good. But G3 got the loudest speaker I've ever had, it's just perfect. No cracking here, not even overheating after setting up different cpu governor.

So battery is not like on M8 or S5, or even close to them? Dont get it, some have cracked frame, the others dont.

Well, some people are getting 5h SoT time, but that's not my case. I have always data on, and never exceeded 2,5 hours of SoT.
I have no idea how did they get their frame cracked..

Is it still worth getting the G4?

I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks

CM support as in cyanogenmod? Unless if you're getting the very specific model that can be unlocked, I'd say look else where.
I know the Nexus 6P would be a nice choice for both CM and a decent camera. Not sure if the S6 has an unlocked bootloader, if it does, then that's a great choice as well since their camera is just about as good as the G4.

I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.

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I'd get a G3. G4 has too many issues.
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nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.

How do you know that's wrong? There have been a few G4's in the 600's that bootlooped, as reported on here and other boards. Even fixed G4's are re-looping.
Fact is, the early G4's have been bootlooping recently and we can't say that any newer ones won't until some time passes. It's a time bomb situation. It's not a chance I'm willing to take on a $400 plus device.

Thanks to all for responses

No. Too many devices are bootlooping. Mine was bricked from it last week. Save your money and buy a Nexus 6p

samitro said:
I'm looking for a mobile device with a good camera and CM support, is it still worth getting the G4? what are other options there that support CM and custom roms? thanks
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Good camera and CM don't mix. Pick one. Any time you add CM you lose the stock camera.
The nexus will work but they are only a decent camera (lacks OIS) so not as good as the stock G4 camera.
is it worth getting a G4 ? heh of course. What else can compete with it now at the going price.
Never selling mine. It will be with me until it dies
Look for serials 510 and over and you will be ok. Try to get with warranty.

Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.

No, just get another brand, lg sucks.

samitro said:
Thanks, I have the option to get a serial starting with 6 but I've heard that even these are having the bootloop problem, not sure though it is as frequent as the old ones.
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I'm on a 510 series with zero issues but the battery life is crap but they do have tons of bigger batteries out there like the 6000 mah one from mpj
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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.

I wouldn't get a phone that has been widely reported as probably dying at any possible time.

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I do also have the 510 and everything is perfect, not a single issue.
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Same here...
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Aellaes said:
nah, that's totally wrong . If you get a phone with S/N 500+ then expect to have some issues,but if you get a phone with S/N 600+ don't expect to have issues because phones with 600+ are made in 2016.
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Not really. Mine is with 601 S/N and i have the screen flickering problem..

How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?

Jesus, what a load of rubbish from some users! The G4 was one of the best devices of 2015, as chosen by every single reviewer out there! Maybe not No1, but definitly among the top. I have owned 3 G4 units at different stages, and am using one right now, and have had 0 issues. It is a perfect phone in every way especially with the low price tag. Sure, I would take a Galaxy Note 5 or S7 Edge over the G4 , but considering im paying about 1/2 of the price (at least in my country, New Zealand), im pretty happy! Flagship specs and performance with half the price.
I will be upgrading to the HTC 10 once it is available, but the G4 has absolutely served me well, and highly recommended to anyone.

All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.

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All the reviewers praised it before the bootloop hit, six to eight months after release.
Upon release it had some moderate touch screen issues, but was otherwise a good phone. No one is disputing that. The problem is the bootlooping and how LG is/has handled it. It's not a small issue. There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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That's true, you can't deny the hardware issues that happens to some, even though it didn't happen to me. But come on now, the G3 ovee the G4? The ui was just too laggy on the G3, not to mention that horrible over sharpening of the screen. I would still happily pick the G4, CONSIDERING the price difference between the G4 and other flagships. If money was no issue then definitly I would go for other devices. But the value for money is just too good to pass on.
Anyway, I will be back to my beloved HTC once the htc 10 hits the market. Looks like a solid comeback from htc. You might disagree but I will cherish my time with the G4 [emoji4]
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Sammae7 said:
There are users everywhere that have been hit by it, and LG has done nothing but offer repairs to some, while others have to fight for it, despite the issue being completely LG's fault.
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Nothing but offer repairs ? what pray tell is LG to do.
Those that bought with warranty are covered for as long as the term is.
Those that bought without warranty were taking on a risk. This is true with anything. But then people are so passionate in this forum about phones that nobody thinks twice. And they will do it again in a heartbeat
In all honesty, the G4 isn't a big upgrade at all over the G3. If I was intent of getting an LG, I'd go for the G3. Almost the exact same phone with no fear of bootloop and a lower cost.
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Camera on the G4 is a generation jump. The same module was used in the G2, G3 and G flex 1 & 2. They changed it with the G4 and what a difference it makes.
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mrk88 said:
How many devices have gotten the bootloop problem? What would a rough estimate be, any idea's ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-poll-users-hardware-failure-t3303547
Puts things into perspective doesn't it.

Getting one tomorrow, bootloop?

Hello all,
So basically I've ordered the G4 (actually not knowing about the issue) and I'm picking it up tomorrow. However, what serial numbers are an absolute no-go and , did LG release a new revision? I am aware that 505 is a no-go but what about 601, 607, 608? As far as I'm concerned 608 is the one to have as it does not fail. I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
It's a H815 - Black leather EU version. Now the place I'm buying it from has excellent service so warranty ( 2 years ) is not a problem, although I reaaalllyy don't want to go through the hassle again with my LG being sent back two times for the plastic cracking.
Price is 350 euros ( which is because of the amazing service which I value a lot at the place I'm buying it from.)
I was contemplating the Mate S but it's too slow and no android 7, LG nexus 5X has the same problems and for 50 euros more the LG is much better.
Please help

Well, I had a dual sim version and it went in bootloop 2 weeks back, after trying everything I had to return it to the vendor as it was still under one year warranty, now waiting for their answer, I have always used Samsung, S1, S2, S3, S5 and got G4 as primary phone in Jan16, such issue never happened with Samsung, I still have S2, S3 and S5 and they all run without any problem, I won't get any LG phone ever.

ila420 said:
Well, I had a dual sim version and it went in bootloop 2 weeks back, after trying everything I had to return it to the vendor as it was still under one year warranty, now waiting for their answer, I have always used Samsung, S1, S2, S3, S5 and got G4 as primary phone in Jan16, such issue never happened with Samsung, I still have S2, S3 and S5 and they all run without any problem, I won't get any LG phone ever.
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Can you please share the EAN-code and first three digits of the serial number?

Xdekker said:
Hello all,
So basically I've ordered the G4 (actually not knowing about the issue) and I'm picking it up tomorrow. However, what serial numbers are an absolute no-go and , did LG release a new revision? I am aware that 505 is a no-go but what about 601, 607, 608? As far as I'm concerned 608 is the one to have as it does not fail. I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
It's a H815 - Black leather EU version. Now the place I'm buying it from has excellent service so warranty ( 2 years ) is not a problem, although I reaaalllyy don't want to go through the hassle again with my LG being sent back two times for the plastic cracking.
Price is 350 euros ( which is because of the amazing service which I value a lot at the place I'm buying it from.)
I was contemplating the Mate S but it's too slow and no android 7, LG nexus 5X has the same problems and for 50 euros more the LG is much better.
Please help
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pick any from 6XX they are lees likely to bootloop. i have mine 601 its working just fine.

Xdekker said:
Hello all,
I am confused and is it possible to see the serial on the box?
Please help
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The serial number is written on the sticker on the outside of the box. This will either start with 50X... or 60X...
If it's a 50X model, I would return it without opening the box at all because some of these companies (especially those on Amazon) just hold piles of old stock. Without opening the box, it's an easy return.
I'm using a 60X model and it's a great phone. That said; I have had the occasional flash of static on one side of the screen which was really worrisome at first. It's basically a split second glitch on the screen and is seemingly harmless and only occurs a few times per week. I'm happy to live with that and didn't bother returning the phone.

It may or may not boot loop. Judging from internet though there are very very few reports of 6xx S/N going boot loop. You also have to keep in mind that not all of those reports are real just like with the Samsung explode-gate. There are many ppl who like to report false alerts just because. I don't see too many reports of 6xx going bad. The vast majority of them were the 505's. I blame LG though for all of this. They tried to cover it up never acknowledged it publicly. They sent an email admitting the problem to one Android fan site can't remember which it was and that was all. Meanwhile it took them too long to identify the issue. I don't believe the latest S/N's have this problem. I don't see enough evidence to support this. LG should have come in public and say that they finally fixed it once and for all and say from which S/N and after it's safe. but they didn't. I assume they didn't want to deal with the extra costs of the PR nightmare, the recalls and angry customers and stores.

Alrighty, got myself a 607 version which is great. Black leather with gold buttons, in the beginning I was kinda hesitant because I was expecting the grey buttons but tbh the gold on black looks really classy. Amazing camera. Unfortunately the screen has a yellowish tint to it but I fixed it thanks to this wonderful app Screen balance ( I really was not expecting it to be this good, it basically eliminated the use of a modified kernel because unlike all other apps it runs as an accessibility service.) I will probably post about it.

Worth buying a G4?

Hey guys,
Is it worth buying the LG G4? How is the Custom ROM support for it?
How much is a good price for it too, used? In GBP.
Thanks

I will never buy an lg smartphone ever,i have problems with bad call quality (low volume),lags,overheating,red colored retention on display on places where he was white color (signal icons) and finally my H815 died by irreversible bootloop bug.For me affter such a bad experience with phone and LG customer service ,I would never buy their product even if offer it for free.LG must change logo from LG to LS - life sucks ,even if one man does not buy LG product after this post I will be happy

redentor666 said:
I will never buy an lg smartphone ever,i have problems with bad call quality (low volume),lags,overheating,red colored retention on display on places where he was white color (signal icons) and finally my H815 died by irreversible bootloop bug.For me affter such a bad experience with phone and LG customer service ,I would never buy their product even if offer it for free.LG must change logo from LG to LS - life sucks ,even if one man does not buy LG product after this post I will be happy
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Totally, totally agree.
Stay away from LG.

Buy op3

redentor666 said:
I will never buy an lg smartphone ever,i have problems with bad call quality (low volume),lags,overheating,red colored retention on display on places where he was white color (signal icons) and finally my H815 died by irreversible bootloop bug.For me affter such a bad experience with phone and LG customer service ,I would never buy their product even if offer it for free.LG must change logo from LG to LS - life sucks ,even if one man does not buy LG product after this post I will be happy
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predek said:
Totally, totally agree.
Stay away from LG.
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Oh yes and stay away from Samsung and from HTC and from apple and...
To be honest! ALL the above can happen in different kind of manner with ALL vendors. Really do not think that buying a phone from other vendor will protect you.
Every model from every vendor has its own problems.
Buy a note 7 and your house may burn. Buy a iPhone and the screen may break. And so on.
When it comes to this device by LG the main problem is the boot loop issue which you can find in 100 threads here and elsewhere. I really like this device but as with all devices you should prepare yourself what you want:
Do you wanna install custom roms? Do you need root? Then you need a g4 model which can be unlocked (which I personally highly recommend). Not every model is possible to be unlocked.
The other one is the serial. The first 3 digits should be 60x the higher the better. The last one is: ensure you have warranty.
I really like this device but I have the h815 unlocked and twrp which ensures having a backup if all goes bad.
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steadfasterX said:
Oh yes and stay away from Samsung and from HTC and from apple and...
To be honest! ALL the above can happen in different kind of manner with ALL vendors. Really do not think that buying a phone from other vendor will protect you.
Every model from every vendor has its own problems.
Buy a note 7 and your house may burn. Buy a iPhone and the screen may break. And so on.
When it comes to this device by LG the main problem is the boot loop issue which you can find in 100 threads here and elsewhere. I really like this device but as with all devices you should prepare yourself what you want:
Do you wanna install custom roms? Do you need root? Then you need a g4 model which can be unlocked (which I personally highly recommend). Not every model is possible to be unlocked.
The other one is the serial. The first 3 digits should be 60x the higher the better. The last one is: ensure you have warranty.
I really like this device but I have the h815 unlocked and twrp which ensures having a backup if all goes bad.
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You know how much I respect you mate, but this device is affected by too much potential problems. No bootloop?
OK, screen ghost. No screen ghost and bootloop? Ok so talk about poor battery life, delay with updates, overheating ecc ecc..
And about development.. We have cyano. One custom kernel that will be no more developed (llama) and a couple of ROM based on cyano with cyano bugs inside and that make you lose stock camera and all his killer features.
I understand your point of view, but I will never ever say to a friend of mine "going to buy a G4, well done!". This is my opinion, stay away from LG expecially from G4.
Personally I passed to 6P.
Hope to see you again in other devices community!

TBH onest? No. The risk of getting bootloop or any other issue is quite too high, and customer experience I had is the worst one I've ever had.
IF it had no hardware issues that would've been the best phone to buy right now bot specs and price wise.

I'm Italian, here we have H815 international version with unlockable bootloader. Mine is serial 60x. No more bootloops, anyway no more serial one. My G4 is a fabulous phone, except for not great battery life. But it has quick charge.
So far for about 300 euro I don't se a better phone than G4 now.
With G3 I had a problem with the touch screen, sent to LG in warranty and they change all the screen and even the plastic front cover. So I had also a good experience with official assistance.
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Safe G4s?

Considering buying a G4 due to the comparably high specs for the price range. However, this bootloop issue has me thinking twice.
Are there any models of LG G4 that seem exempt from the bootloop issue?

phnord said:
Considering buying a G4 due to the comparably high specs for the price range. However, this bootloop issue has me thinking twice.
Are there any models of LG G4 that seem exempt from the bootloop issue?
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theres is not guarrantied that it wont but less likely any phone manufactured from jan 1026 and up.
chances are very very low but not that it wont. it might.

raptorddd said:
theres is not guarrantied that it wont but less likely any phone manufactured from jan 1026 and up.
chances are very very low but not that it wont. it might.
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You mean ones manufactured from this January – as in last month –*and that these are labeled 1026 and up?
If they were just manufactured a month ago, how do we know that they won't die, say, next month?

phnord said:
You mean ones manufactured from this January – as in last month –*and that these are labeled 1026 and up?
If they were just manufactured a month ago, how do we know that they won't die, say, next month?
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I think he means serial code 601 and above are "relatively safe" but that said, they will bootloop its just matter of how long it takes and how lucky you are. (I also doubt LG still produces G4's and replacement parts for it)

This has been asked several times now. Really.. Every forum has a search function.
I haven't seen any prove of a 6xx or 7xx serial device yet.
I own 2 g4 h815 devices both with serial 603. Heavy usage. No problems.
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone where the mainboard was replaced. Only a phone directly coming with a 6xx or higher serial.
You can have always bad luck on ANY electronic device though. For guarantees you have warranties
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I think he means serial code 601 and above are "relatively safe" but that said, they will bootloop its just matter of how long it takes and how lucky you are. (I also doubt LG still produces G4's and replacement parts for it)
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If that's the case, do you have a recommendation for an alternative replacement-or-upgrade to my G3?
To elaborate, here's what I posted in the recommend-a-device thread:
phnord;[url said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71083923&postcount=10168]I've[/url] got an LG G3 – an AT&T D850, LG's flagship from 2014.
I've been mostly satisfied with it for the last few years. However, it's screen just cracked, and seeing as it will cost me $50+ for a replacement screen, I'm considering jumping ship.
As such, I'm looking for something:
Cheap
Comparable to or better than the LG G3
Stable - not prone to tons of hardware / software issues like the G4
Well supported in the development community
In particular, some features that would be nice:
Battery life equal to or better than G3
Processor / performance equal to or better than G3
Swappable batteries or very, very good battery life
MicroSD card Slot or very, very large internal memory
Cameras equal to or better than G3
Durability equal to or better than G3
Rootable / Custom-ROM-able
Development community activity comparable to or better than G3
Screen size / brightness equal to or better than G3
Tetherable
Torch
I'd like to keep it under $100, but am willing to go up to the $100-$200 range if need be.
I *DON'T* need it to be carrier unlocked. I'm sticking with AT&T, so if it's locked to AT&T, so be it.
I'm willing to buy used if it's a reliable, well supported phone.
Thoughts? Any advice would be urgently appreciated!!!
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steadfasterX said:
This has been asked several times now. Really.. Every forum has a search function.
I haven't seen any prove of a 6xx or 7xx serial device yet.
I own 2 g4 h815 devices both with serial 603. Heavy usage. No problems.
I wouldn't buy a refurbished phone where the mainboard was replaced. Only a phone directly coming with a 6xx or higher serial.
You can have always bad luck on ANY electronic device though. For guarantees you have warranties
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some guy reported his bootlooped it was serial 610..... the other ive seen was a 604 some 602- and 601 but very few compared to 510 and below. to 505

raptorddd said:
some guy reported his bootlooped it was serial 610..... the other ive seen was a 604 some 602- and 601 but very few compared to 510 and below. to 505
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Still don't believe this is true. Maybe those were replaced / repaired ones or maybe there are other issues then the ilapo. I didn't saw anything like that yet.
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