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Transferring numbers, and getting charged full price

So... my wife has been hating her Samsung Moment.
I have an EVO that I got on day one, but for some reason my account was tagged as eligible for an upgrade. This weekend, after chatting with sprint online who said I could get a new phone for my line, activate it, then switch it to her and switch back to my EVO.
So I bought her an Epic through Radioshack who was selling them cheap. It came in today, and says that they MAY charge me $300 if I switch the phone to another line after activating it, due to sprint reporting it as being deactivated.
Has anyone had any experience with this and Sprint before? I'd really rather not pay another $300, when I thought this wasn't going to be an issue.

never had any troubles like this

CheesyNutz said:
never had any troubles like this
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Does that mean you have done what im trying to do and not had an issue?
Ie, buy a phone using one lines upgrade, activate, then transfer numbers back around?

To get the upgrade price, and/or the rebates, you need to keep it on the line for 30 days I believe. It may be 60 days, I'm not positive. But they do this for exactly this situation, so people cant use their update and immediately give it to another line.

Return the phone to RS so they can reverse your upgrade if you're worried about the fee. Call Sprint and see if they can give you a good price on the phone. You always have to read the fine print on those 3rd party vendors.

Never had issues like that. I have used my girls upgrade and activated the phone directly on to whatever line I wanted without ever having it on the eligable upgrade line. Done this several times, never a problem. Also, sometimes Sprint will do your mail in rebate for you instantly if you call in, as long as ur a premier member. Its nice not waiting for that check.
Hey... I think this thing makes phone calls too!

JTNiggle said:
Never had issues like that. I have used my girls upgrade and activated the phone directly on to whatever line I wanted without ever having it on the eligable upgrade line. Done this several times, never a problem.
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Through which vendor though, sprint directly? Or a reseller like Best Buy/Radioshack?

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Through which vendor though, sprint directly? Or a reseller like Best Buy/Radioshack?
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The first time, I ordered the phone from Sprint online with an upgrade from my fathers line, which I provide to him, and activated it on my line. That's the only way I was able to afford getting the Evo on launch.
Second time, I ordered an Evo from Wirefly using my upgrade and activated it on my girls line.
Third time, I ordered from Sprint online again for my friend who's on my family plan, and activated on his girls line. I have a maxed out family plan to save cash, communism rocks and so does unlimited mobile to mobile!
On all three of these, Sprint gave me zero trouble. On the two ordered directly from Sprint, they did my rebate instantly and applied the credit to my account. Also, on all three occasions I called Sprint directly to activate. I know you can do it online, but I find that you can get more out of it if you call in or go to the store. Case in point, instant rebate goodness.

Well, I did this same thing when I got the evo on launch day......used my wifes upgrade,from radioshack and within ten minutes of that purchase I switched the phone to my line and put wife blackberry back on her line,all while inside radioshack.....
hope this help.
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I just did this, back when the evo came out, I used my wife's upgrade and transferred it to my line (done at the sprint store). In December, my line was eligible for an upgrade, so I used that upgrade to get my wife an evo (done at radio shack). They did all the switching right at the store. No problems and no extra charges.

javamaddie said:
I just did this, back when the evo came out, I used my wife's upgrade and transferred it to my line (done at the sprint store). In December, my line was eligible for an upgrade, so I used that upgrade to get my wife an evo (done at radio shack). They did all the switching right at the store. No problems and no extra charges.
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I did the exact same thing as above but did it all at Wal-Mart as it was the only place around that had the phone in stock. I used my wifes upgrade to get the evo, and they switched the numbers around within 5 minutes.

Thanks for all the responses. I ended up getting scared of Radioshack online (Wirefly) and did it in store at a best buy, who did it all no problem.

[Q] AT&T grandfathered unlimited data/2gb data

I just wanted to ask others opinion on how they feel about AT&T taking away the unlimited data plan with the smart phone packages unless you got grandfathered in from having the unlimited data before all this took place.
Well for many many months i have wondered why i didnt get grandfathered in because i had the unlimited before with WM6.5, well they failed to mention it to me and i thought i still had it, but come to find out i got put on the 2gb plan and havent went over the limit for a long time. The past couple months i have went over and got txt saying i reached 75% of my data then 100% and was being charged 10$ for extra gb. I called them to consult them with the problem and they tell me i should have been grandfathered in with my old data plan being unlimited but that they were sorry that i had went past the 3month period to be able to ask for it, and that i had to stay on the rated data plan. So with that said i called them back couple days later and told them i wanted to switch to a old phone i had " LG-VU" and wanted the unlimited data plan, then i gave them my IMEI number and switched devices but never even took out the sim from my samsung focus. They say that it would not work without the smart phone data plan but it still performs as it was before and i have unlimited data plan. I have called the *3282# to see, and it says unlimited data and that the other 2gb plan is deactivated.
My question is if anyone else has experienced this kinda situation before as i have and what they did about it. Will AT&T be able to see that i am still using the focus and not the Vu?
When i had the WM6.5 i never told them what device i was using, i just put sim card in and edited the APN and never had to have smart phone data.
Many opinions Appreciated!!

i had same problem. i was told after having an htc fuze with unlimited data that i could not be grandfathered in with my new smart phone even after explaining that the fuze was also a smart phone. its now been a year though. i may try your method of getting the unlimited data back.

I was determined to figure a way around it, especially after the Hot Spot hack, using that for my xbox 360 live. But it seams to be do the trick so far, its been a couple days now and i havent gotten any alert as i did before, but thats not saying i wont get one saying im being charged. So lets hope this is a work around with a dumb phone!!

All I did was upgrade my phone in a store then call ATT after my first bill stating that I was told I would keep my unlimited plan and if they dont want to give it back I can just return the phone and go with another provider... lets just say I have unlimited data again.
They will try to say you went past the the 14 day return but just tell them that you were sold the phone on false pretenses and that it was a mistake on their end. They will fold once you get past the first teir rep.
I have done this upgrading from a iPhone 2G to 3GS and then from 3GS to WP7. I also managed to get it when I added a second line for my GF with the old 3GS haha... Play stupid and just go with the old, "I was told I would get this.... are you telling me I was lied to by one of your ATT sales people?" they trip over themselves then give you what you want.

HoorayBeer said:
i had same problem. i was told after having an htc fuze with unlimited data that i could not be grandfathered in with my new smart phone even after explaining that the fuze was also a smart phone. its now been a year though. i may try your method of getting the unlimited data back.
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I didn't have any problem at all. But then, when I heard about the change, I went straight to an AT&T store to make sure I had a guarantee that I would be grandfathered in no matter what. When I upgraded from my Fuze to a Focus, I had no trouble, and I'm still unlimited a year later.

you can get it back and here's how
as soon as I get my titan and get back with at&t
i'm talking to this guy or you can use your own iphone 2g if you have one lying around
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220875871251

Seems like a good deal! We'll see if AT&T honors that promise of grandfathering T-Mo people!

noelitaux said:
as soon as I get my titan and get back with at&t
i'm talking to this guy or you can use your own iphone 2g if you have one lying around
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220875871251
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I get the same txt that he is getting

noelitaux said:
i'm talking to this guy or you can use your own iphone 2g if you have one lying around
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220875871251
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As for me, it looks like some kind of criminal transaction. Somehow this guy got access to AT&T billing/accounting system and makes non-authorized changes in database. I prefer to stay with my 2 Gb only data plan but w/o possible problems...

I think that guy is doing the same thing as i did, but he is charging ppl to call and do it for you. All i did was change the IMEI by supplying them with it and acctivating unlimted data for that dumb device, But keep my sim card in my Focus. As you can see in my screen capture on phone that i just took a few min before i posted showing that the 2gb plan was cancelled and unlimited was activated.
Lets just hope this is a work around sollution for this, as it is working as of now!!

I only pay $40 a month unlimited everything through simple mobile... I don't know how much you guys are paying but can't beat that deal... And its $40 flat...not $40 plus this and that fee.
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lucasryan said:
I think that guy is doing the same thing as i did, but he is charging ppl to call and do it for you.
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I don't think so - too much pain in the a$$ for $25 Definitely he found the way to change AT&T database...
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As you can see in my screen capture on phone that i just took a few min before i posted showing that the 2gb plan was cancelled and unlimited was activated.
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How about your bill? How much AT&T charges for unlim? $30/m as it was before?

Hmm you maybe right on that, i wouldnt do all those phones for that much.
My current unlimited data is costing me 15 a month now.

i wonder if this would work on their gophone as well?
register a dumbphone for the $50 unlimited and then put the sim in a smartphone?
does the network read IMEI when the device tries to connect?
for me, when i got my gophone sim card, i didn't have my focus with me, so the att rep entered all 0's or 1's for imei, does it read the phone and change them? or is there a way to see what phone they think i'm using?
sorry if it's a bit off topic, but it's very interesting to me

Still Unlimited
I went from an ATT FUZE with a PDA Unlimited Plan to an ATT Samsung Focus and the rep merely moved my SIM in the FUZE to the Focus last December and I still have the Unlimited Plan.

Hmm, I think I'll switch to the unlimited and not add data and see what happens, worst case I spend an extra $25 next month
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I just switched to att $10 unlimited last night using my SIM in my HD2 and telling them my IMIE number (which att's system didnt recognize) I told them I was using a t-mo dumbphone becuase my focus broke (lie) and they switched me over no problem. I'm going to use my HD2 for a little bit then go back to my focus and see what happens
On a side note you can get a gophone from walmart for like $10 its a samsung a107 then toss your sim in that call them up with the IMIE num and they will move you over to a dumbphone plan as well.

adiliyo said:
i wonder if this would work on their gophone as well?
register a dumbphone for the $50 unlimited and then put the sim in a smartphone?
does the network read IMEI when the device tries to connect?
for me, when i got my gophone sim card, i didn't have my focus with me, so the att rep entered all 0's or 1's for imei, does it read the phone and change them? or is there a way to see what phone they think i'm using?
sorry if it's a bit off topic, but it's very interesting to me
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Yes the system reads the IMEI when connecting, but i think it will also work for gophones also. I dont know what the rates are for those plans but i dont think it will catch it unless the done a manual audit on it, witch they have no reason to do so.

voluptuary said:
I just switched to att $10 unlimited last night using my SIM in my HD2 and telling them my IMIE number (which att's system didnt recognize) I told them I was using a t-mo dumbphone becuase my focus broke (lie) and they switched me over no problem. I'm going to use my HD2 for a little bit then go back to my focus and see what happens
On a side note you can get a gophone from walmart for like $10 its a samsung a107 then toss your sim in that call them up with the IMIE num and they will move you over to a dumbphone plan as well.
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All i did was just call in and tell them i was switching phones to my old LG-Vu and went to unlimited plan, i never even took out my sim from my focus, then they did test call to make sure all was working, i answered call from focus as again i never took my sim out lol and they didnt notice it so it ALL GOOD

How about your bill? How much AT&T charges for unlim? $30/m as it was before?[/QUOTE]
Its 15 for the unlimited data, but i have the Media Max Unlimited plan for $35. The $15 plan mentioned is for the Media Net unlimited. That gives you unlimited data access only, but i need sms unlimited also cause there are alot of my friends that can only txt.

AT&T revoked my unlimited data plan without warning

My AT&T Note 2 arrived this afternoon (full-price, no-commitment; I'm still under contract for my old AT&T phone). When I called to activate the Note 2, I was told that my grandfathered data plan is "incompatible" with the Note 2 and had to agree to a 3GB plan instead. But this is the first I heard of the incompatibility. When I placed the order, there was no mention of any need to change the data plan.
I don't see how it can be lawful of AT&T to impose a requirement that they failed to disclose at the time of purchase a couple of weeks ago.

You better keep calling and trying, ask to speak with a supervisor. You have to say you werent told this before you ordered and others were able to order just fine and keep their unlimited data. Should work out for you.

When did they start enforcing this? Best bet is go to your local store.

I accepted the 3GB plan for now because it was the only way they'd activate the phone, but I'll see if I can get it changed.

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When did they start enforcing this? Best bet is go to your local store.
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local store is useless... they will just call the customer service line for you.

Gary02468 said:
I accepted the 3GB plan for now because it was the only way they'd activate the phone, but I'll see if I can get it changed.
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Doesn't seem right. I still have my unlimited....
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Gary02468 said:
I accepted the 3GB plan for now because it was the only way they'd activate the phone, but I'll see if I can get it changed.
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That's probably bad. They may not reinstate you, since you already accepted the limited plan.

Gary02468 said:
My AT&T Note 2 arrived this afternoon (full-price, no-commitment; I'm still under contract for my old AT&T phone). When I called to activate the Note 2, I was told that my grandfathered data plan is "incompatible" with the Note 2 and had to agree to a 3GB plan instead. But this is the first I heard of the incompatibility. When I placed the order, there was no mention of any need to change the data plan.
I don't see how it can be lawful of AT&T to impose a requirement that they failed to disclose at the time of purchase a couple of weeks ago.
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When I picked my note up this morning they said my plan stays the same unless I want it changed. She even printed out the screenshot and showed me its the same. Someone stupid may have screwed you over big time.....Good luck!

Contact the ATT Office of the President number.... it's another support group but you WILL get direct support outside of the normal channels and these folks are authorized to fix a lot of stuff. They helped me just recently after dealing with the abyss that was ATT's normal support line.
http://gethuman.com/phone-number/AT-T-Wireless/customer-service--4527/
Cheers.

I also purchased my Galaxy Note at no commitment pricing and kept my unlimited plan. They should not have touched it. I didn't even call att to activate my device. My iPhone 5 data plan is working fine.
Though I can no longer see my usage but my unlimited plan is there.

MattMJB0188 said:
I also purchased my Galaxy Note at no commitment pricing and kept my unlimited plan. They should not have touched it. I didn't even call att to activate my device. My iPhone 5 data plan is working fine.
Though I can no longer see my usage but my unlimited plan is there.
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Same here, used a sim adapter and just popped it in from my iphone 5. Works fine, no need to "activate" anything.

you got tricked. happens all the time. Now you need to complain like all hell and sit on the phone for hours on end. no matter what you do...
do not hang up and do not settle for anything but what you want. they will feed you all sorts of lies...but that is what they are...lies. dont give in and you can get your unlimited data back.
long story short I paid an extra 100 for this phone just so I would hopefully never have to speak to a csr again.

Two months ago they pulled this **** with me and revoked my plan. It took a while but I spoke to this guy way high up at att who gave it back to me. Let me try and find his number for you.

ATT has fudged my plan up also. To start they sent my phone with the wrong sim card and my sim card went to someone else. Then after changing sim cards they can not get data to work on my sim card. After 3 hours on the phone they said they can't figure out what is wrong and put in a 24 hour ticket. How hard is it to enter two numbers into a database, the IMEI and SIM?

santiagodraco said:
Contact the ATT Office of the President number.... it's another support group but you WILL get direct support outside of the normal channels and these folks are authorized to fix a lot of stuff. They helped me just recently after dealing with the abyss that was ATT's normal support line.
http://gethuman.com/phone-number/AT-T-Wireless/customer-service--4527/
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Thanks for this number, I had to call that now and get a case created. I had to call in today to get my phone activated, then noticed I had no data. I called back to get the data fixed and I was informed that I lost my unlimited plan earlier today (when the phone was activated). I was put on a 3gb plan for now and called the office of the president number.
Time to wait until monday/tuesday

I just sent the OP the private number of a guy who works at AT&T corporate who got my unlimited plan back for me. He is very nice and has the power to re-add it no matter what. Just call him and leave him a message ASAP!!

MattMJB0188 said:
I just sent the OP the private number of a guy who works at AT&T corporate who got my unlimited plan back for me. He is very nice and has the power to re-add it no matter what. Just call him and leave him a message ASAP!!
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Can I have that number too? lol
It sounds like I have the same problem as Ishmael... the probably removed my unlimited when I activated the sim card... heads are gonna roll!

When I activated mine the same thing happened. Called into Premier and they tried to tell me I had to use the new data plan due to the GF one being incompatible; told them that I know of several people with other LTE compatible phones that have their grandfathered features still; and we kept chatting and eventually she "found" the right codes to use. Won't actually know until the next bill comes in... but it was a pain in the ass.

They did this to me too. The guy at the ATT store said the 3gb plan will only be on there for about 4 hours then it will get changed over.
Not sure why this phone has an issue with this...
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lordpelvis said:
They did this to me too. The guy at the ATT store said the 3gb plan will only be on there for about 4 hours then it will get changed over.
Not sure why this phone has an issue with this...
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As a side note, I've had the note 2 since about 5 local time, and I logged into my att and it shows unlimited for me.
I got mine at a corporate store..

This is so weird you guys mentioning this. I have switched my grandfathered plan so many times. From iPhone 4S to iPhone 5 to Android back to iPhone 5 lol.
There is NO reason you can't keep it.

Upgrade and keep unlimited data

Hi all, sorry if this has been covered. My wife recently upgraded to the Verizon HTC One, my contract isn't up till Feb '2014 on my razr but I was so impressed with the one and because I'm basically a 49 year old child I couldn't stand not having it, not having the cash to buy it out right I thought about using the edge program but I'm not eligible till my contract is up so I called Verizon to beg for an early upgrade,no go but the rep said I could add a line and when I activate my new phone switch it with an old flip phone I had before I had a smart phone, so on paper it looks like I added a smartphone for 40 bucks a month but I swapped that one for my razr, added the flip phone and it only costs me 10 bucks a month, to clarify the phone number on my razr is now on my one and the new number is on the old flip phone! I still thought my plan would go to the share plan where my wife and I would share 4 gigs but I just looked at my bill she's on a 2 Gig plan and I'm still on unlimited, I'm not sure if Verizon just messed up or if it didn't change because I added a line instead of upgrading from the razr. If nothing else this is a way to get the one before your contract is up without paying full price upfront with the added bonus of possibly keeping unlimited data!
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yup. its a workaround. since you never altered the status of your unlimited account/line - nothing happens. its essentially the same thing as buying a phone outright and activating it on your unlimited line.

bik2101 said:
yup. its a workaround. since you never altered the status of your unlimited account/line - nothing happens. its essentially the same thing as buying a phone outright and activating it on your unlimited line.
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There's the side effect of extending the contract on your unlimited line by 2 years, which can be a blessing or a curse depending on how you look at it.

I'm amazed that it was the Verizon rep that suggested the work around! I really like the one and am glad I got it, all I've done to it is used rumrunners s -off and installed adaway and of course titanium backup to freeze bloat ,battery is good for such a powerful device
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djerk said:
I'm amazed that it was the Verizon rep that suggested the work around! I really like the one and am glad I got it, all I've done to it is used rumrunners s -off and installed adaway and of course titanium backup to freeze bloat ,battery is good for such a powerful device
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Yeah its bc (from what I've read) vzw reps get commission for phones sold, whether it's through upgrades, new lines, whatever. So it's in their interest.
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I never worked for Verizon, but with AT&T, that's what we would call a cross upgrade, technically. You should still be eligible for an upgrade on that old line too since you just added a line in order to get the One.
From what I'm told, Verizon reps' commission comes solely from selling devices, not so much from selling plans. However with AT&T, you get paid for anything you do, whether you're upgrading their device or upgrading their plan. A lot of AT&T reps will stress going to their Mobile Share plan because they get paid a ton for those plans. You'll also never run into an AT&T rep who will willingly sell you an iDevice either since in some cases you can potentially LOSE money.
This is all from an authorized retailer experience, of course. I'm not sure if corporate is the same way.
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I just upgraded yesterday using similar method. Costco had HTC One with bonus travel bundle for $79 so I went to the kiosk and told the rep what I wanted to do, he was more than willing to help, although he said he couldn't do the switch between lines, he gave me 2 extra sim cards (one small and one big one) so I could do the switch myself. I needed two sim cards because I was switching from the Rezound to One and sim cards are different sizes so after initial activation of the One on tiered line I had to deactivate big sim card from my unlimited line (rezound), activate new small sim card and put it in the One, then do the opposite with my tiered line, deactivate small sim card (One) and activate big one to be used in the Rezound. So if you're planning to do the transfer, make sure you ask for additional sim cards. I did transfer online without any problems. I also asked the rep if he could transfer upgrades from my other lines and do the same and he said yes. I have 3 lines two unlimited one tiered all eligible for upgrade so I'm probably going in on Friday to upgrade another line

thatsonlyme said:
I just upgraded yesterday using similar method. Costco had HTC One with bonus travel bundle for $79 so I went to the kiosk and told the rep what I wanted to do, he was more than willing to help, although he said he couldn't do the switch between lines, he gave me 2 extra sim cards (one small and one big one) so I could do the switch myself. I needed two sim cards because I was switching from the Rezound to One and sim cards are different sizes so after initial activation of the One on tiered line I had to deactivate big sim card from my unlimited line (rezound), activate new small sim card and put it in the One, then do the opposite with my tiered line, deactivate small sim card (One) and activate big one to be used in the Rezound. So if you're planning to do the transfer, make sure you ask for additional sim cards. I did transfer online without any problems. I also asked the rep if he could transfer upgrades from my other lines and do the same and he said yes. I have 3 lines two unlimited one tiered all eligible for upgrade so I'm probably going in on Friday to upgrade another line
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Geez, what SIM card did the Rezound use? Because the HTC One is the MicroSIM which was the standard for a bunch of years. I know some of the newest phones are now using the smaller NanoSIM. Luckily for me my Razr already used the MicroSIM so after I did the upgrade I just deactivated that new SIM, activated her old phone again (iPhone with no SIM) and put my SIM into the new HTC One. I did not use the upgrade transfer feature this time, because my sisters line was due for an upgrade anyway and was already on tiered data anyway. But if she wants a new phone I'll have to transfer my upgrade to her line to save my unlimited.

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Geez, what SIM card did the Rezound use? Because the HTC One is the MicroSIM which was the standard for a bunch of years. I know some of the newest phones are now using the smaller NanoSIM. Luckily for me my Razr already used the MicroSIM so after I did the upgrade I just deactivated that new SIM, activated her old phone again (iPhone with no SIM) and put my SIM into the new HTC One. I did not use the upgrade transfer feature this time, because my sisters line was due for an upgrade anyway and was already on tiered data anyway. But if she wants a new phone I'll have to transfer my upgrade to her line to save my unlimited.
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yeah I didn't use upgrade transfer either but I saw that option online and also costco rep told me he could do it too.
I had the original LTE sim card that came with my thunderbolt I used it with my rezound. it was just a little bigger than htc one sim.

This is exactly what I did, add a line to get my one, then switch the One to my main number and threw an old lg8100 flip phone on the new line so it only costs me $10 a month to keep my unlimited data. Being someone who streams a lot of movies on xbmc, so this was important

i spoke to a best but rep yesterday about doing this very same option and he said any time a device was added that wasnt the same as what you had before, as in replacing your current device, the system would automatically upgrade your account and you lose unlimited. i dont see how that is true tho because if i buy a phone off contract and just replace my current sim in it my plan wouldnt change. i thought about going this route so i could get the blue htc one, which for some reason blows the other colors away imo, but its really not worth it if im stuck paying 240 for an additional line for 2 years and the upgrade price is 199 currrently. i could buy one on ebay for less than that total and not have to deal with 2 lines it seems.

MJL99 said:
i spoke to a best but rep yesterday about doing this very same option and he said any time a device was added that wasnt the same as what you had before, as in replacing your current device, the system would automatically upgrade your account and you lose unlimited. i dont see how that is true tho because if i buy a phone off contract and just replace my current sim in it my plan wouldnt change. i thought about going this route so i could get the blue htc one, which for some reason blows the other colors away imo, but its really not worth it if im stuck paying 240 for an additional line for 2 years and the upgrade price is 199 currrently. i could buy one on ebay for less than that total and not have to deal with 2 lines it seems.
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that best buy rep was wrong lol
you just have to make sure they don't touch your unlimited line and upgrade your tiered line. if best buy can't do it, go somewhere else. I tried walmart first and at the end of the process it showed a message that I would lose unlimited data so I just told him to cancel the order and I went to costco where it worked.
I paid $80 for my phone at costco, I'm not sure if blue color is worth additional $120. also my wife uses her tiered line so I'm not paying extra for unused line that's why it made sense to go this rout for me but everyone's situation is different

Agreed that sales rep was wrong. Any verizon store can do this. Even if you call verizon and ask, they will say that this can be done or your other option is just buy the device outright and you can even switch it over and activate it yourself and nothing will change.

Note 4 and Keeping Unlimited Data

I have 2 unlimited data lines both have upgrades available. I was going to do the Best Buy trick by ordering one and having it shipped to my house and then throw away the sim that comes with it and put my old sim in the phone. Problem with this is Best Buy is only doing in store pickups for the Note 4 and the closest one is 3 hours away. Will the Verizon thing work? That is where you do an upgrade on someones line but when you get the phone you stick the sim from your other line into the phone?

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I have 2 unlimited data lines both have upgrades available. I was going to do the Best Buy trick by ordering one and having it shipped to my house and then throw away the sim that comes with it and put my old sim in the phone. Problem with this is Best Buy is only doing in store pickups for the Note 4 and the closest one is 3 hours away. Will the Verizon thing work? That is where you do an upgrade on someones line but when you get the phone you stick the sim from your other line into the phone?
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Yes and no... Yes you can do this but u must keep a data package on that line you upgraded on for the duration of the contract, so not worth it in the end. I think with all the loopholes closed the option is to buy off contract which I'll be doing tomorrow morning.
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Both of my lines already have data packages on them so it shouldn't be any extra. I upgrade Line 1 thru Verizon and when the phone comes in I take the sim card from Line 2 and put it in the phone. Then I do the opposite to upgrade the other line. Any flaws in that method?

kobe008 said:
Both of my lines already have data packages on them so it shouldn't be any extra. I upgrade Line 1 thru Verizon and when the phone comes in I take the sim card from Line 2 and put it in the phone. Then I do the opposite to upgrade the other line. Any flaws in that method?
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If I'm understanding you correctly then yes there is a flaw. When you upgrade line 1 you will lose unlimited data on that line. You can put the sim from line 2 in the phone and then you will be able to keep unlimited on line 2. As soon as you upgrade line 2 you will lose the unlimited on that as well. What might work for you to keep unlimited on JUST one of the lines is: After you upgrade line 1 and switch sims to put the phone on line 2, then go and TRANSFER line 2 upgrade to line 1 and upgrade line 1 again. You will still lose unlimited on line 1 though.

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If I'm understanding you correctly then yes there is a flaw. When you upgrade line 1 you will lose unlimited data on that line. You can put the sim from line 2 in the phone and then you will be able to keep unlimited on line 2. As soon as you upgrade line 2 you will lose the unlimited on that as well. What might work for you to keep unlimited on JUST one of the lines is: After you upgrade line 1 and switch sims to put the phone on line 2, then go and TRANSFER line 2 upgrade to line 1 and upgrade line 1 again. You will still lose unlimited on line 1 though.
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This is correct.
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If I'm understanding you correctly then yes there is a flaw. When you upgrade line 1 you will lose unlimited data on that line. You can put the sim from line 2 in the phone and then you will be able to keep unlimited on line 2. As soon as you upgrade line 2 you will lose the unlimited on that as well. What might work for you to keep unlimited on JUST one of the lines is: After you upgrade line 1 and switch sims to put the phone on line 2, then go and TRANSFER line 2 upgrade to line 1 and upgrade line 1 again. You will still lose unlimited on line 1 though.
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Yes correct. Just confirmed what others have said, unfortunately you'll lose unlimited on one line

The only way to keep unlimited is to buy for full price.
The only way to keep unlimited is to buy for full price. (As I did). They send you new SIM card, inserted into the phone, that activates your new phone. If you insert your old SIM card (from previous phone) and try to activate
you will get an error > coll to 877**** (customer service). :crying:
So, no tricks with switching

Back when we were told that Verizon was going to start throttling unlimited data customers, I decided to see just how much data I could download in a month. I could have broken 10 TB if I was in an area with a better bandwidth. I suppose ~240GB's a day ain't too shabby. All directly to the phone, no tethering.

jpmcnown said:
Back when we were told that Verizon was going to start throttling unlimited data customers, I decided to see just how much data I could download in a month. I could have broken 10 TB if I was in an area with a better bandwidth. I suppose ~240GB's a day ain't too shabby. All directly to the phone, no tethering.
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What the.... I barely got mine to 97gb one month I thought that was ridiculous! Lol. Anyway, gonna hold on to unlimited until Verizon takes it away!
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I think people fail to realize you can take the sim card out of the phone before it is turned on. Its the first thing I do and then put my old sim in it. I did it for my wifes line when I got her a new s4 on her unlimited line earlier this year. She still has unlimited now and I used the upgrade for her line. If you go to store do not let them turn on device for you. I did the same thing with my note 4 when it arrived yesterday, before inserting battery, remove new sim and insert old sim from previous phone. Phones boots up and says sim already active and no plan change. Plans dont go into effect until the sim card is activated. If that never happens then it never gets changed. The only thing I noticed changed was the actual term of the contract did renew as normal when upgrading.
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Back when we were told that Verizon was going to start throttling unlimited data customers, I decided to see just how much data I could download in a month. I could have broken 10 TB if I was in an area with a better bandwidth. I suppose ~240GB's a day ain't too shabby. All directly to the phone, no tethering.
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And I thought my 150+ GB was something. And that was with tethering. I drive semi trucks cross country so lots of shows, football games, ps4 gets streamed

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And I thought my 150+ GB was something. And that was with tethering. I drive semi trucks cross country so lots of shows, football games, ps4 gets streamed
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In all fairness, it was a chore hitting 7.28 TB. I effectively started a download of 60+GB(all I had available on my SD card) from my Google drive, and set alarms to remind me to reset the download every 6 hours. After I hit 240GB the first day, I knew the total was going to be ridiculous. I'm waiting to get chastised by the "it's because of people like you!", crowd. I called Verizon to ask em if there were any better plans, and the rep mistakenly read it as 7.28 GB, and suggested a 10GB/mo plan(despite that costing 3.5x than the $30/mo I'm on for unlimited). She put me on hold after I pointed out the mistake, presumably to catch her breath, and show coworkers the ridiculousness. Pretty sure if there's a "watch list" with Verizon, I'm on it now.

Yea every time I call they say you know you can upgrade and I say only if I can use unlimited still. They look and say never mind. Most haven't seen my 100+ GB a month. I'd like to see what they say when your account is brought up

I went to Verizon store today and the reps told me that if I did an upgrade on another line and transferred the note 4 to my grandfathered plan line that I would lose the unlimited data plan after a month or 2. They said the plan follows the phone. They said the only way to keep unlimited plan is to buy phone outright - no upgrades. 2 reps told me the same thing. Are they just lying or confused or is this actually possible? I understand why they want to close the dumb phone data plan loophole but this seems to go beyond that. I asked them for something official that states this will happen. They could not provide anything. If is is true can someone point me to the official word from Verizon?

lev777 said:
I went to Verizon store today and the reps told me that if I did an upgrade on another line and transferred the note 4 to my grandfathered plan line that I would lose the unlimited data plan after a month or 2. They said the plan follows the phone. They said the only way to keep unlimited plan is to buy phone outright - no upgrades. 2 reps told me the same thing. Are they just lying or confused or is this actually possible? I understand why they want to close the dumb phone data plan loophole but this seems to go beyond that. I asked them for something official that states this will happen. They could not provide anything. If is is true can someone point me to the official word from Verizon?
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I don't have official word from Verizon, but I did the upgrade on my third (non unlimited) line (Transferred/ordered online). Once I received the Note 4, I took out the SIM and transferred the one from my existing phone to the Note 4. Been running 3 days without issue. Attached screenshot showing Note 4 with unlimited data. I'm into a new billing cycle since I activated the Note 4 and my contract end date still states "Month to month". I'll keep you posted if anything changes, but I did this same thing with my wifes phone last year and we are both still on unlimited.

I'm considering replacing my VZW MotoX with a Note4 because it looks like Best Buy is running a $99 Note 4 promotion (with trade-in). I have unlimited data on the Moto X and it is eligible for the upgrade. We have a second MotoX on the 2GB plan but it doesn't have an upgrade available yet. Here's my plan - transfer the upgrade to the 2GB Moto X and upgrade it to the Note 4. Then I put the SIM from the unlimited Moto X into the Note 4 before it is turned on (this would require a nano-to-micro adapter). Then I need to reactivate the 2GB Moto X somehow. Would that keep the unlimited data on the Note 4?

Here is all the info you need. Be sure to read carefully the different methods possible and ask questions on there if you have any.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?

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I don't have official word from Verizon, but I did the upgrade on my third (non unlimited) line (Transferred/ordered online). Once I received the Note 4, I took out the SIM and transferred the one from my existing phone to the Note 4. Been running 3 days without issue. Attached screenshot showing Note 4 with unlimited data. I'm into a new billing cycle since I activated the Note 4 and my contract end date still states "Month to month". I'll keep you posted if anything changes, but I did this same thing with my wifes phone last year and we are both still on unlimited.
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I did the same thing, but in store at best buy since that's the only way to get it from them at the moment. They activated the phone on the non-unlimited line (said they had to activate it). I turned the phone off, called Verizon and had them reactivate the old sim for the non-unlimited phone, then did a factory reset on the new note 4 just to be safe and popped in the unlimited sim. No issues so far here either.

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In all fairness, it was a chore hitting 7.28 TB. I effectively started a download of 60+GB(all I had available on my SD card) from my Google drive, and set alarms to remind me to reset the download every 6 hours. After I hit 240GB the first day, I knew the total was going to be ridiculous. I'm waiting to get chastised by the "it's because of people like you!", crowd. I called Verizon to ask em if there were any better plans, and the rep mistakenly read it as 7.28 GB, and suggested a 10GB/mo plan(despite that costing 3.5x than the $30/mo I'm on for unlimited). She put me on hold after I pointed out the mistake, presumably to catch her breath, and show coworkers the ridiculousness. Pretty sure if there's a "watch list" with Verizon, I'm on it now.
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You guys are the reason Verizon wants to throttle the data. Do not abuse unlimited data plan!!!
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mugello21 said:
I think people fail to realize you can take the sim card out of the phone before it is turned on. Its the first thing I do and then put my old sim in it. I did it for my wifes line when I got her a new s4 on her unlimited line earlier this year. She still has unlimited now and I used the upgrade for her line. If you go to store do not let them turn on device for you. I did the same thing with my note 4 when it arrived yesterday, before inserting battery, remove new sim and insert old sim from previous phone. Phones boots up and says sim already active and no plan change. Plans dont go into effect until the sim card is activated. If that never happens then it never gets changed. The only thing I noticed changed was the actual term of the contract did renew as normal when upgrading.
Long time lurker here and finally decided to start giving some input here
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First you need to have an available upgrade. So lets say you have one unlimited line and it available for upgrade, as soon as you purchase a 2 years contract phone, that data plan will change, doesn't matter how you activate the device. The only way is you need an additional line with upgrade available then transfer this upgrade to your unlimited line when active on the unlimited line when you received the device. The second option is buy a full retail device.

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Back when we were told that Verizon was going to start throttling unlimited data customers, I decided to see just how much data I could download in a month. I could have broken 10 TB if I was in an area with a better bandwidth. I suppose ~240GB's a day ain't too shabby. All directly to the phone, no tethering.
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OMG dude, and I am a professional video guy and sometimes have to upload large videos. My max was 380 once, how the hell did you use 7tb'a. You gotta help me out what am I missing? Thats like a 150 raw blurays never mind compressed online video. Rock it man though thats awesome!
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jpmcnown said:
In all fairness, it was a chore hitting 7.28 TB. I effectively started a download of 60+GB(all I had available on my SD card) from my Google drive, and set alarms to remind me to reset the download every 6 hours. After I hit 240GB the first day, I knew the total was going to be ridiculous. I'm waiting to get chastised by the "it's because of people like you!", crowd. I called Verizon to ask em if there were any better plans, and the rep mistakenly read it as 7.28 GB, and suggested a 10GB/mo plan(despite that costing 3.5x than the $30/mo I'm on for unlimited). She put me on hold after I pointed out the mistake, presumably to catch her breath, and show coworkers the ridiculousness. Pretty sure if there's a "watch list" with Verizon, I'm on it now.
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You using data doesn't slow down anyone else. They have been selling this data is scarce thing forever which isn't true. What slows us down is them over selling which they will never stop as long as they can sell it. but lol She probably had no idea what to do those numbers don't make any sense!!