Moto X like Ambient display? - Nexus 5X Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?

litetaker said:
I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.

djkido316 said:
since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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The 2015 Moto X has a LCD display and functions just as the 2013 Moto X did with an AMOLED display. The '15 didn't heat up and the battery drain wasn't as bad as you would think. However, the whole display turning on was annoying and one of the reasons I turned Moto Display off and eventually sold the phone.

I wasn't even talking about '15 version. Though you answered it yourself.

djkido316 said:
since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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That does not answer my question. I am fully aware that due to the LCD screen, it cannot just turn on some pixels. But, what I want is an app that can use the proximity sensor to identify when we are using the phone or picking up the phone and then turn the screen on for displaying the notification. That should be doable right?

djkido316 said:
I wasn't even talking about '15 version. Though you answered it yourself.
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You suggested that the 5X would heat up and it would kill the battery because of the screen tech. You are wrong. The 2015 moto x is the proof. RIF, princess.
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litetaker said:
I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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You might want to take a look at Gravity Screen, from the Play Store.

I use Dynamic Notifications on my old GNex that I have lying around. It works pretty much like the moto x's active display. There are options to have it sense when its pulled out of your pocket or picked up off a table, but I don't remember if those are only in the full version or the free one as well.

mic_he said:
You might want to take a look at Gravity Screen, from the Play Store.
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Thanks, I tried it and seems to work. But also, it seems to be a little aggressive with the turning the display off thing that my display seems to turn off very very quickly even when I am using it.
MurdocZero said:
I use Dynamic Notifications on my old GNex that I have lying around. It works pretty much like the moto x's active display. There are options to have it sense when its pulled out of your pocket or picked up off a table, but I don't remember if those are only in the full version or the free one as well.
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I will try this out as well.

@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.

djkido316 said:
@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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Tap to wake and Moto Display are two different things, tiger. Try again.
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Is Ambient display like on stock marshmallow what you want then?
Lights up the screen in a sort of monochrome to display time/notifications only on lock screen when you pick up the phone.

"AC display" app is a great substitute for moto display. Combined with double tap2wake when phone is out of pocket and you're all set.
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djkido316 said:
@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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It does not eat *a lot* of battery, just a tiny bit. And does not heat your device at all.

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[App Req] Proximity Sensor Screen Off for Flip Covers

hey guys!
I am using a flip cover from Rock for HOX. I love the app called Smartcover which let's me use my cover just like the smart cover of ipad using the proximity sensors.. but, I am getting a feel that it drains my battery like anything..
now, I wanna know if someone can suggest an app which is low on battery drain for using this amazing function.. Also, wanna know other's take on the battery performance using this app..
Hi there! You could try Proximity Screen Off from Google play. I had it and it didn't seem to eat lots of power.
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cool_sid007 said:
hey guys!
I am using a flip cover from Rock for HOX. I love the app called Smartcover which let's me use my cover just like the smart cover of ipad using the proximity sensors.. but, I am getting a feel that it drains my battery like anything..
now, I wanna know if someone can suggest an app which is low on battery drain for using this amazing function.. Also, wanna know other's take on the battery performance using this app..
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If you have a look at the permissions required for that application you can see it has permissions to keep your phone awake.
The proximity sensor is off when the phone is in standby, I suspect this is a hardware limitation, i.e. the proximity sensor isn't it's own independent hardware device but is partly software driven and requires the phone on to work.
For your application to work, it has to stop the phone sleeping in order to get a readout from the proximity sensor, and so your battery goes flat quicker.
I doubt there is any application that can change this behaviour as that is how the proximity sensor works, it needs the phone on.
Regards
Phil
cardynal said:
Hi there! You could try Proximity Screen Off from Google play. I had it and it didn't seem to eat lots of power.
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I tried using this app.. this helps in switching the screen off but it wont switch the screen on once I flip the cover.. so doesn't work exactly how I wanted..
while browsing through XDA, i found that ppl have developed apps for the same purpose & those are really battery drain free.. so was wondering if the same was possible with HOX too...
cool_sid007 said:
I tried using this app.. this helps in switching the screen off but it wont switch the screen on once I flip the cover.. so doesn't work exactly how I wanted..
while browsing through XDA, i found that ppl have developed apps for the same purpose & those are really battery drain free.. so was wondering if the same was possible with HOX too...
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I use Smart Screen Off, you may try it. Prefer over Proximity Screen Off. It don't lock the screen if you have security lock on.

Question about Ambient Mode

I'm currently searching for an Android Wear watch and torn between the Moto 360 and Asus Zenwatch. I like the look of both of them. I feel the Moto360 will be more masculine, but the Zenwatch is more recent and has better specs screen/battery wise.
I've found conflicting/confusing information with all the updates Moto360 has received. So, is there a way for ambient mode on the 360 to stay on and if so, what is the battery life? Or is it that the ambient mode only stays on with stock watchfaces, but not custom?
I just don't know about having a giant black disk on my wrist when the watch is off, plus how 'future proof' is the Moto360 with its TI processor?
I know this is the Moto360 forum, but any feedback is appreciated.
Just a quick update to my question to make sure I understand.
The Moto360 will turn off when sideways, be in ambient mode when tilted, and full mode when tilted towards your face, correct?
That is correct and those were the two I was deciding went to best buy and liked the moto but that's the point which ever puts the biggest smile is the one you get. Yes the moto has some older specs but it works great battery is good and I use ambient mode quite a bit I like it better than tilt to wake
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BBowermaster said:
Just a quick update to my question to make sure I understand.
The Moto360 will turn off when sideways, be in ambient mode when tilted, and full mode when tilted towards your face, correct?
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You seem to be confusing tilt to wake with ambient mode .....
2 different things
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ben.nesheim said:
but that's the point which ever puts the biggest smile is the one you get.
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Thanks, unfortunately, none of the Best Buy's near me have the Asus in stock. My wife ordered one, so I may just wait for hers to arrive and compare it to the Moto 360 Best Buy had.
deadgiveaway said:
You seem to be confusing tilt to wake with ambient mode .....
2 different things
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I understand that, but without tilt to wake, where does ambient mode come in to effect? Does your full watchface dim, then it goes to ambient mode for xx seconds, then goes dark? I had the Pebble, upgraded to the Gear 2, not realizing apps have to be coded to your phone to show up in the Gear store. But the Gear 2 had tilt to wake, and the lag or fact that sometimes it didn't turn on and I'd have to hit the button annoyed me.
In ambient mode when you raise your arm it will be dimmed instead of when tilt to wake is on it will come on full screen. Instead of timing out while looking at it it will go to ambient mode as well but then nearly half a second it turns off lol sorry I'm staring at my watch and phone but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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Will the Nexus 5X have Ambient Display?

I haven't seen anything regarding this in the news or spec sheets, and since it's gonna have an LCD screen, I think it's a legitimate question.
Yes same ambient display as you would see on the Nexus 6
Skorp_X said:
I haven't seen anything regarding this in the news or spec sheets, and since it's gonna have an LCD screen, I think it's a legitimate question.
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yes it will, but its not going to be as good as the nexus 6p ambient display because it will light up the whole screen isntead of the individual pixels, and thats the main reason im going with the 6p
Thanks guys, I'll try it out and see how it works. I just hope it's more responsive than on the Nexus 6.
Skorp_X said:
Thanks guys, I'll try it out and see how it works. I just hope it's more responsive than on the Nexus 6.
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If Moto X Style can use an LCD screen for their version of ambient display, then it should not be too bad
0.0 said:
If Moto X Style can use an LCD screen for their version of ambient display, then it should not be too bad
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My battery life on Moto x PE is just average.... not that great honestly. That's why I returned it to amazon
btort1 said:
My battery life on Moto x PE is just average.... not that great honestly. That's why I returned it to amazon
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Oh no, that doesn't sound promising. But the Moto X is using 2k for the screen, not 1080 so that could be a factor for average battery? I think the 5x will be fine with ambient because doze and app standby
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Oh no, that doesn't sound promising. But the Moto X is using 2k for the screen, not 1080 so that could be a factor for average battery? I think the 5x will be fine with ambient because doze and app standby
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I'm pretty sure the 2k screen or quad hd screen is what's killing the battery much faster than it should. I'm also seeing a lot of people reporting their 2nd most used is the phone's radios. Myself and a bunch of other people report that it shows 5%-10% "phone without signal" which is weird because my old phone never had these problems, Maybe there will be a software update soon but I think I'd rather stick with a much smaller 5x which is easier using it one handed
i would take ambient display even if i had to sacrifice some battery
I just hope it works better than the Nexus 6. Coming from a 2014 Moto X, it's hard to stomach the way it works on the Nexus 6.
SubliminalME said:
I just hope it works better than the Nexus 6. Coming from a 2014 Moto X, it's hard to stomach the way it works on the Nexus 6.
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I like how the Nexus 6 works. I can actually change to the next music track easily and see notifications much quicker than Moto's active display
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0.0 said:
I like how the Nexus 6 works. I can actually change to the next music track easily and see notifications much quicker than Moto's active display
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Just seems real inconsistant to me...with the Moto it worked flawlessly every time. With the 6 sometimes it comes up when i bump the phone, sometimes it doesn't.
SubliminalME said:
Just seems real inconsistant to me...with the Moto it worked flawlessly every time. With the 6 sometimes it comes up when i bump the phone, sometimes it doesn't.
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With the 5X and 6P, there's Android Hub, which will make ambient display activation more accurate. Something to look forward to
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Hope so!
Just to clarify, the 5X cannot pulse the time/notifications in white like Moto display? But the 6P does?
mikeosu said:
Just to clarify, the 5X cannot pulse the time/notifications in white like Moto display? But the 6P does?
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I think both the 5X and 6P does
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0.0 said:
I think both the 5X and 6P does
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What is the thing the 6P can do differently then?
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mikeosu said:
What is the thing the 6P can do differently then?
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6P has EIS, smart burst, slo-mo at 240fps. Idk what else it can do but I think ambient display is the same since both have Android Hub
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Ambient display is the same on both
The only way the ambient display will differ between the two is 5x=LCD and 6p=Amoled. Amoled screens only light up the pixels needed whereas an LCD lights up even black pixels (since the whole panel is backlit ) so theoretically the 6p ambient display should use slightly less battery than the ambient on the 5x
btort1 said:
My battery life on Moto x PE is just average.... not that great honestly. That's why I returned it to amazon
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The Moto X Pure has a 5.7" QHD IPS LCD and only a 3,000mAh battery so I'm not sure what you were expecting. Putting a 3,000mAh battery in a phone with a screen like that and expecting good battery life is like putting a 10 gallon gas tank in a heavy duty V8 truck and expecting to get 350+ miles on a single tank.

Lg G5 Always On Display Port

Does anyone think this is possible/ planning to implement it? As far as I know the g4 and g5 have similar screens, so why shouldn't it? Or do you think it would drain our batteries too much?
I think the G5 uses OLED screen where the G4 uses LCD, more power using. Also I think the G5 has two screens, I imagine it would just be the notification screen that stays always on not the whole thing.
SavageRobot said:
I think the G5 uses OLED screen where the G4 uses LCD, more power using. Also I think the G5 has two screens, I imagine it would just be the notification screen that stays always on not the whole thing.
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G5 has a lcd screen and it doesn't have two screen
Yep the G5 has an lcd screen, so the feature shouldn't affect the battery any differently, i suppose
Sorry misremembered, was thinking V10 second screen. G5 is LED though http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-g5-always-on-display-672305/
Thomas Val said:
Yep the G5 has an lcd screen, so the feature shouldn't affect the battery any differently, i suppose
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The G5 screen is a wee bit different. Something about a partial on/off state I believe.
spartan268 said:
The G5 screen is a wee bit different. Something about a partial on/off state I believe.
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So that probably means no chance of an efficient always on display for the g4 eh? o well.. thanks anyways!
Thomas Val said:
So that probably means no chance of an efficient always on display for the g4 eh? o well.. thanks anyways!
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Seems like it. The G4 implementation was the swipe down while the screen is off to get the 'peek' menu. Supposedly this is a bit more friendly versus turning the entire damn thing on.
SavageRobot said:
I think the G5 uses OLED screen where the G4 uses LCD, more power using. Also I think the G5 has two screens, I imagine it would just be the notification screen that stays always on not the whole thing.
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You think to much. Better go and read some info before giving out informations.
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You can simply use this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thsoft.glance
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Touch screen sensitivity

On the Oneplus One we had a lower touchscreen sensitivity (not ghost touches) than on other flagship devices. Nothing big but still noticable. For example i could you my old S3 also with the fingernails with the fingers upside down.
I already ordered a 1+3 but I wanted to ask people who already have the device how the sensitivity is compared to other flasghips or midrabge devices.
I've upgraded from a Nexus 5 so I can't compare the phone with other new flagships. However, you are able to use the touchscreen with your fingernail. I have noticed it is more sensitive than my old phone. I hope this gives you some indication.
dkconor said:
I've upgraded from a Nexus 5 so I can't compare the phone with other new flagships. However, you are able to use the touchscreen with your fingernail. I have noticed it is more sensitive than my old phone. I hope this gives you some indication.
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Nexus 5 touch is good. My friend has it. But if you say that its possible to use it with fingernail im very happy. It isnt possible with the 1+1.
Tiz92 said:
Nexus 5 touch is good. My friend has it. But if you say that its possible to use it with fingernail im very happy. It isnt possible with the 1+1.
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That sensitivity results in me not being able to use Gestures, since keeping it in my pocket keeps the phone awake (cpu usage = battery drain, heating up) .
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Soumitra.5693 said:
That sensitivity results in me not being able to use Gestures, since keeping it in my pocket keeps the phone awake (cpu usage = battery drain, heating up) .
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That seems to be a problem with the fingerprint sensor, not the display. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/oneplus-3-loses-energy-inside-pocket-t3403583
It happens to me also, but with ambient display and all gestures switched off...
js931 said:
That seems to be a problem with the fingerprint sensor, not the display. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/help/oneplus-3-loses-energy-inside-pocket-t3403583
It happens to me also, but with ambient display and all gestures switched off...
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Oh well...it might be that I kept my phone faced outwards after I disabled the Gestures. Damn.
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