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[Q] screenburn

Help. I havr a screenburn on my lg g4 .
I use the opera browser. And the buttons are visseble while typing.
So i called my provider. They gona replace the device .
But why? this is a new phone uplauding pictures right now
Opera browser
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!AO32iSIcJ4VDqVg&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
burn in pictures
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!AGZGMi2o3waD0wY&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!AEOft-Uq3x84f9g&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
[https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!ACZ5r0vDo5AW-oU&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG

That burn in is really bad. It's got to be a problem with your screen, and not common to all G4s or we'd be seeing others complaining by now.
I've seen phones that bad in stores, but their screens are on all the time. How much screen time have you had with Opera running?
Good thing the provider is replacing it!

phineous said:
That burn in is really bad. It's got to be a problem with your screen, and not common to all G4s or we'd be seeing others complaining by now.
I've seen phones that bad in stores, but their screens are on all the time. How much screen time have you had with Opera running?
Good thing the provider is replacing it!
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hmm not that long troug. if i use opera a while not it disappears almost completely.
use it agian 2 minutes. its bck
and restarting my phone does not help.
removing opera does also not help.
if i got my new phone no opera anymore.

I just can't believe that's from Opera alone. There had to be a problem with the LCD in your phone.
I understand if you don't want to risk it by using Opera anymore but I don't think it'll happen with your new phone.

robdgekke said:
hmm not that long troug. if i use opera a while not it disappears almost completely.
use it agian 2 minutes. its bck
and restarting my phone does not help.
removing opera does also not help.
if i got my new phone no opera anymore.
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Lcd on mobile phones normally never get burnins, it's an amoled thingy (samsung phones) and it's an important reason I wont get a note 4 but a G4, so I really hope it was a single defective screen.
Did you try one of the screen retention fix app?
Did you try a factory reset? Call me crazy but it's not normal that a screen burnin doesn't affect white pixels, and it shouldn't do a green stuff, it could be a crazy bug
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vegetaleb said:
Lcd on mobile phones normally never get burnins, it's an amoled thingy (samsung phones) and it's an important reason I wont get a note 4 but a G4, so I really hope it was a single defective screen.
Did you try one of the screen retention fix app?
Did you try a factory reset? Call me crazy but it's not normal that a screen burnin doesn't affect white pixels, and it shouldn't do a green stuff, it could be a crazy bug
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yes i did try all of that.
did not help at all!
i got my replacement phone now. i am happy with it..
still really strange...

I just noticed a burn in My lg g4 also

So now its becoming more common is it
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robdgekke said:
Help. I havr a screenburn on my lg g4 .
I use the opera browser. And the buttons are visseble while typing.
So i called my provider. They gona replace the device .
But why? this is a new phone uplauding pictures right now
Opera browser
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!AO32iSIcJ4VDqVg&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
burn in pictures
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!AGZGMi2o3waD0wY&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!AEOft-Uq3x84f9g&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
[https://onedrive.live.com/redir?res...authkey=!ACZ5r0vDo5AW-oU&v=3&ithint=photo,JPG
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mate this not burn in....This lcd backlight leak .Go to service.

kabirjedi said:
mate this not burn in....This lcd backlight leak .Go to service.
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That's not "backlight leak" or "light bleed" as it's generally called. It's a bad LCD panel.
FYI This is how light bleed on the G4 can look like (It's mine).

I have a new device. So it's solved. But I see more people getting problems with the screen.

That's more likely to be just image retention and not an actual burn in.
Burn in = actual damage since the material gets burnt out than the rest of the other materials in the screen.
Image Retention = the liquid crystals on the LCD haven't fully returned to their original state for the meantime only.
A burn in commonly happens on crt, plasma, oled screens. For the reason that these technologies "burn" a specific material on their screen to produce output. LCD screens like IPS are very less likely to have burn ins but image retention is always possible but not permanent.

rvnlvrz said:
That's more likely to be just image retention and not an actual burn in.
Burn in = actual damage since the material gets burnt out than the rest of the other materials in the screen.
Image Retention = the liquid crystals on the LCD haven't fully returned to their original state for the meantime only.
A burn in commonly happens on crt, plasma, oled screens. For the reason that these technologies "burn" a specific material on their screen to produce output. LCD screens like IPS are very less likely to have burn ins but image retention is always possible but not permanent.
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So is image retention common, because I've never had this problem until I got the G4 which is my first flagship: every other phone I've had was a budget and never had a problem like this.

I've never had image retention or burn in on any of my LCD phones but have had it on all my OLED/AMOLED phones.

F1Fanatic27 said:
So is image retention common, because I've never had this problem until I got the G4 which is my first flagship: every other phone I've had was a budget and never had a problem like this.
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LG used this "Quantum Display" of theirs (A modified type of IPS LCD) which had a different arrangement of pixels and whatnots which would have likely been the reason why image retention was much more common on theirs than other manufacturers' IPS displays, but in return.. the color gamut of their display actually expanded in range and also provided less energy consumption.

Same here LG G4 "screen burnes" all the time!!! - previous screens stay faded over current screens, just like on my old plasma TV... WTF???

I don't know what is screenburn but sometimes I see vertical narrow black stripes popping for a second in the same place, any thoughts what this can be? Is that a faulty display or some software bug, anyone had this issue?

What did other people who had this issue?
Now I'm also having it. Own the phone since ~11month. I recognized it 2 weeks ago, researching the problem. Before I though it would be a graphic error.
Have the plan to write LG about my issue. But have rooted the phone the official way. I must lookt at the LG root condition, I think this is still covered by waranty even with root because of HW issue not caused by root.
BR

I had a image retention issues on my screen (few months ago came from service for bootlooping) AND I have bootloader officially unlocked. And they still changed my display. But I live in Finland EU and we have this mandatory 2 years warranty regardless of rooting the device. Only if they can proof that rooting caused the device to broke then its not covered by this mandatory manufacturer independant warranty.
But image retention or bootlooping aint such a case and they replaced my MB and now my screen.

It just shows how **** the G4 is in case of build quality, I have experienced screenburn and I'm after a bootloop issue as well, so glad my OnePlus 3 is coming at Monday. G4 has a great development and thats why I love it I wouldn't buy ever again.

Will the Nexus 5X have Ambient Display?

I haven't seen anything regarding this in the news or spec sheets, and since it's gonna have an LCD screen, I think it's a legitimate question.

Yes same ambient display as you would see on the Nexus 6

Skorp_X said:
I haven't seen anything regarding this in the news or spec sheets, and since it's gonna have an LCD screen, I think it's a legitimate question.
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yes it will, but its not going to be as good as the nexus 6p ambient display because it will light up the whole screen isntead of the individual pixels, and thats the main reason im going with the 6p

Thanks guys, I'll try it out and see how it works. I just hope it's more responsive than on the Nexus 6.

Skorp_X said:
Thanks guys, I'll try it out and see how it works. I just hope it's more responsive than on the Nexus 6.
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If Moto X Style can use an LCD screen for their version of ambient display, then it should not be too bad

0.0 said:
If Moto X Style can use an LCD screen for their version of ambient display, then it should not be too bad
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My battery life on Moto x PE is just average.... not that great honestly. That's why I returned it to amazon

btort1 said:
My battery life on Moto x PE is just average.... not that great honestly. That's why I returned it to amazon
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Oh no, that doesn't sound promising. But the Moto X is using 2k for the screen, not 1080 so that could be a factor for average battery? I think the 5x will be fine with ambient because doze and app standby

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Oh no, that doesn't sound promising. But the Moto X is using 2k for the screen, not 1080 so that could be a factor for average battery? I think the 5x will be fine with ambient because doze and app standby
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I'm pretty sure the 2k screen or quad hd screen is what's killing the battery much faster than it should. I'm also seeing a lot of people reporting their 2nd most used is the phone's radios. Myself and a bunch of other people report that it shows 5%-10% "phone without signal" which is weird because my old phone never had these problems, Maybe there will be a software update soon but I think I'd rather stick with a much smaller 5x which is easier using it one handed

i would take ambient display even if i had to sacrifice some battery

I just hope it works better than the Nexus 6. Coming from a 2014 Moto X, it's hard to stomach the way it works on the Nexus 6.

SubliminalME said:
I just hope it works better than the Nexus 6. Coming from a 2014 Moto X, it's hard to stomach the way it works on the Nexus 6.
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I like how the Nexus 6 works. I can actually change to the next music track easily and see notifications much quicker than Moto's active display
Sent from my Nexus 5

0.0 said:
I like how the Nexus 6 works. I can actually change to the next music track easily and see notifications much quicker than Moto's active display
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Just seems real inconsistant to me...with the Moto it worked flawlessly every time. With the 6 sometimes it comes up when i bump the phone, sometimes it doesn't.

SubliminalME said:
Just seems real inconsistant to me...with the Moto it worked flawlessly every time. With the 6 sometimes it comes up when i bump the phone, sometimes it doesn't.
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With the 5X and 6P, there's Android Hub, which will make ambient display activation more accurate. Something to look forward to
Sent from my Nexus 5

Hope so!

Just to clarify, the 5X cannot pulse the time/notifications in white like Moto display? But the 6P does?

mikeosu said:
Just to clarify, the 5X cannot pulse the time/notifications in white like Moto display? But the 6P does?
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I think both the 5X and 6P does
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0.0 said:
I think both the 5X and 6P does
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What is the thing the 6P can do differently then?
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mikeosu said:
What is the thing the 6P can do differently then?
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6P has EIS, smart burst, slo-mo at 240fps. Idk what else it can do but I think ambient display is the same since both have Android Hub
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Ambient display is the same on both
The only way the ambient display will differ between the two is 5x=LCD and 6p=Amoled. Amoled screens only light up the pixels needed whereas an LCD lights up even black pixels (since the whole panel is backlit ) so theoretically the 6p ambient display should use slightly less battery than the ambient on the 5x

btort1 said:
My battery life on Moto x PE is just average.... not that great honestly. That's why I returned it to amazon
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The Moto X Pure has a 5.7" QHD IPS LCD and only a 3,000mAh battery so I'm not sure what you were expecting. Putting a 3,000mAh battery in a phone with a screen like that and expecting good battery life is like putting a 10 gallon gas tank in a heavy duty V8 truck and expecting to get 350+ miles on a single tank.

Moto X like Ambient display?

I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?

litetaker said:
I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.

djkido316 said:
since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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The 2015 Moto X has a LCD display and functions just as the 2013 Moto X did with an AMOLED display. The '15 didn't heat up and the battery drain wasn't as bad as you would think. However, the whole display turning on was annoying and one of the reasons I turned Moto Display off and eventually sold the phone.

I wasn't even talking about '15 version. Though you answered it yourself.

djkido316 said:
since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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That does not answer my question. I am fully aware that due to the LCD screen, it cannot just turn on some pixels. But, what I want is an app that can use the proximity sensor to identify when we are using the phone or picking up the phone and then turn the screen on for displaying the notification. That should be doable right?

djkido316 said:
I wasn't even talking about '15 version. Though you answered it yourself.
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You suggested that the 5X would heat up and it would kill the battery because of the screen tech. You are wrong. The 2015 moto x is the proof. RIF, princess.
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litetaker said:
I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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You might want to take a look at Gravity Screen, from the Play Store.

I use Dynamic Notifications on my old GNex that I have lying around. It works pretty much like the moto x's active display. There are options to have it sense when its pulled out of your pocket or picked up off a table, but I don't remember if those are only in the full version or the free one as well.

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You might want to take a look at Gravity Screen, from the Play Store.
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Thanks, I tried it and seems to work. But also, it seems to be a little aggressive with the turning the display off thing that my display seems to turn off very very quickly even when I am using it.
MurdocZero said:
I use Dynamic Notifications on my old GNex that I have lying around. It works pretty much like the moto x's active display. There are options to have it sense when its pulled out of your pocket or picked up off a table, but I don't remember if those are only in the full version or the free one as well.
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I will try this out as well.

@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.

djkido316 said:
@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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Tap to wake and Moto Display are two different things, tiger. Try again.
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Is Ambient display like on stock marshmallow what you want then?
Lights up the screen in a sort of monochrome to display time/notifications only on lock screen when you pick up the phone.

"AC display" app is a great substitute for moto display. Combined with double tap2wake when phone is out of pocket and you're all set.
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djkido316 said:
@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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It does not eat *a lot* of battery, just a tiny bit. And does not heat your device at all.

Is the G3 allso affected in the Hardware/Bootloopbug like the G4 V10...

Hu Guys!
Does anybody know if the G3 is allso affected in the Hardware/Bootloopbug like the G4 V10 and V20?
I've read about poorly glued / soldered CPU Ram connection on these models, is the G3 also affected?

Really nobody knows something!?

Nope, Ive owned 2 already since these 4 years and the only problem i have was the volume buttons sometimes not working and the battery messing up but thats only cuz the battery is old.

MonstaSaleens said:
Nope, Ive owned 2 already since these 4 years and the only problem i have was the volume buttons sometimes not working and the battery messing up but thats only cuz the battery is old.
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Sounds good, cause i planning to buy one...
Thanks for answer!:highfive:

It is 100% affected, the rumors say on the models made in 2014 there was a bad soldering job on the eMMC. So you might start seeing scree fading to black, boot loops. And the battery issue is a normal one imo.

Thanks for warning! I chosed now a Galaxy Note 4 to be save:highfive:
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It is 100% affected, the rumors say on the models made in 2014 there was a bad soldering job on the eMMC. So you might start seeing scree fading to black, boot loops. And the battery issue is a normal one imo.
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Mate 20 has no always on display???

Really ?

PhoneTechShop said:
Really ?
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Yes really. Do some investigation before you buy a Mate 20, you could have known this.

Yeah since it's LCD display,having no AOD is a real shocker

Gremio1903 said:
Yeah since it's LCD display,having no AOD is a real shocker
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LG G7 has also a LCD display, but it has AOD. So has nothing to do with LCD

Car can also sail,it doesnt mean it's a smart idea.
Same for LCD screens and AOD.(aka keeping my screen turned on all the time draining battery like there's no tomorrow,had it on G6 with 2h of sot lol...opposing to AMOLED screens which have only few pixels turned on for AOD purposes while others are shut off thus giving almost the same battery life with AOD as without )

Gremio1903 said:
Car can also sail,it doesnt mean it's a smart idea.
Same for LCD screens and AOD.(aka keeping my screen turned on all the time draining battery like there's no tomorrow,had it on G6 with 2h of sot lol...opposing to AMOLED screens which have only few pixels turned on for AOD purposes while others are shut off thus giving almost the same battery life with AOD as without )
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AOD is meant for people that put it on a stand or a wireless charger stand, as I do. It has nothing to do with LCD or Amoled, it is a choice :good:

No it isn't. Fact that only two LG's lowest selling phones are using it in history of lcd screens shows its a stupid choice.
And no it is not ment as a night stand **** it's ment as a permanent and advanced substitution of notification led.
99% of ppl don't use stands of any kinds and look for notifications while phone is off the charger/stand etc.

99%? Give me a link where you got this information, you made me curious

It was a figurative expression,can u give me link that AOD is meant just for stands or a wireless chargers? You made me curious.
I didn't want to go there cuz idiotic questions demant idiotic answers

Gremio1903 said:
It was a figurative expression,can u give me link that AOD is meant just for stands or a wireless chargers? You made me curious.
I didn't want to go there cuz idiotic questions demant idiotic answers
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nvm

Pierre118 said:
Yes really. Do some investigation before you buy a Mate 20, you could have known this.
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I already have it .. I had Honor Note 10 there was.. but I sold NOte10 because it was china version only google not supported 100%
But I didn't have always it on but there was additional ''turbo'' button for gamez but it also showed temporary always on display so I just pressed it once and showed it for 5 seconds .. I used it espec next to bed or when I woke up early ..