I've recently rooted my phone just to try out Gamekeyboard+ with a bluetooth keyboard I happen to own. For those of you who don't know - Gamekeyboard+ is an app which gives you a plethora of features to remap physical keys, emulate joysticks, and tamper with controls in many other ways. Probably the biggest feature is the ability to emulate touchscreen actions with physical keys, for example a gamepad. This makes it possible to make virtually any game compatible with physical controllers. Unfortunately, this last function does not work with Zenfone 2, from what I just learned. Upon attempting to use touchscreen emulation, the phone freezes for a couple of seconds and the app crashes.
I've contacted Locnet, the company behind Gamekeyboard+, and they replied that the cause is probably that the app requires an ARM processor, while Zenfone 2 has an Intel processor.
That is a real bummer... since game makers for Android are usually extremely reluctant to add control mapping options in their games, forcing you to rely on the touchscreen, which is a disaster when playing a fast paced action games.
I'm here to ask, are the any alternatives to this app? I just ordered a gamepad for my Zenfone, but since games rarely support gamepads, it's gonna be mostly useless without a solution like GK+.
Hmm
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Something I posted in the Nexus S forums but thought this is quite fitting for Galaxy Nexus guys for obvious reasons...
Yes I understand GPUs are important for other things. Thread title is a joke. But check this out...OnLive . Basically OnLive is going to try running their services to tablets (doing the game computing in the cloud). I am totally willing to try this! Imagine xbox/ps3 like games on your tablet or even your phone.
I tried running the app on my OG Droid, but it just stays at the loading screen.
So I'm still a little confused on how it works.
are the games being computed on the device? or is it all being done on their servers and so the app acts as a VNC or a remote connection?
paOol said:
I tried running the app on my OG Droid, but it just stays at the loading screen.
So I'm still a little confused on how it works.
are the games being computed on the device? or is it all being done on their servers and so the app acts as a VNC or a remote connection?
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Lucky. I can't even find it on the market. From what I gather, OnLive does all the computing on their servers and sends it to your tablet so basically your tablet is just a screen with controls.
Think remote desktop but with heavy compression and geared for speed. It works fine in some games but probably not so great at reflex games or FPS. Onlive has been around for a while.
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I will def get this looks Awesome!!
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When I start games on OnLive it says that I have selected a game that requires controler and the game does not respond. Is there some virtual pad that could simulate controls on the screen? I would like to play games with onscreen controls, shadowgun way, rather than carry pad with my phone.
rokfor2000 said:
When I start games on OnLive it says that I have selected a game that requires controler and the game does not respond. Is there some virtual pad that could simulate controls on the screen? I would like to play games with onscreen controls, shadowgun way, rather than carry pad with my phone.
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There are 3 different game types. Ones that require a keyboard/mouse, ones that require a game pad, and ones that are optimized for touch. Some games support all three, some support only two and some support only one. You need to find the games that support what hardware you have on hand. Obviously on a phone you're limited to touch and maybe some mouse based games.
I played Dirt 3, which of course is a very fast paced game, on my tablet the other day. It played just fine. No lag at all and very responsive. Only issue were the actual controls. Little hard to use the virtual controls for such a game.
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Has anyone here been able to set these up so they run smooth? N64oid has major slowdowns in Zelda and other resource intensive games. I am on HD reveloution where software rendering is disabled so its using the full PowerVR GPU. The Nexus has specs similar to the Galaxy S II and should not perform as slow as it is now.
Also in FPSE the analog sticks dont work and are not centered where you put you finger on the screen. Any ideas?
Also why does using the Microboes or bubbles live background lag the UI soooooo much.
I haven't used FPSE, but I've used n64oid quite a bit over the last few days. It's not 60fps but it's playable, depending on the game. That's not to say it's without bugs...
-Most games seem to randomly experience extreme slowdown and 3+ second hangs. This makes MarioKart and Starfox virtually unplayable at times.
-Sometimes it will sometimes completely freeze at these points of extreme slowdown, to the point where the game needs to be reset. This has gotten me into the habit of saving states FREQUENTLY.
-In Zelda OoT, the camera doesn't move at all in the courtyard of Hyrule castle, so you're effectively stuck at that point, since you can't see where you're going as soon as you walk off-screen. Obviously this isn't specific to the Gnex, but it's worth mentioning for the dev's information
I'm using a bone stock LTE 4.0.2 Galaxy Nexus.
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I haven't used FPSE, but I've used n64oid quite a bit over the last few days. It's not 60fps but it's playable, depending on the game. That's not to say it's without bugs...
-Most games seem to randomly experience extreme slowdown and 3+ second hangs. This makes MarioKart and Starfox virtually unplayable at times.
-Sometimes it will sometimes completely freeze at these points of extreme slowdown, to the point where the game needs to be reset. This has gotten me into the habit of saving states FREQUENTLY.
-In Zelda OoT, the camera doesn't move at all in the courtyard of Hyrule castle, so you're effectively stuck at that point, since you can't see where you're going as soon as you walk off-screen. Obviously this isn't specific to the Gnex, but it's worth mentioning for the dev's information
I'm using a bone stock LTE 4.0.2 Galaxy Nexus.
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Under the development options in android see if there is a "Force GPU rendering" option and if there is check it and let me know if there are any changes.
I notices if you disable fog and stretch to fix screen on N64oid you see a HUGE performance increase.
Im hoping the dev for FPSE fixes the analog issues soon.
Like others, it seems to depend on the game. Metal Gear Solid is virtually unplayable on psx4droid, and doesn't even load on FSpe. Intelligent Qube works fine on FPse but doesn't load on psx4droid. As for N64oid, MarioKart actually works fine for me outside of a few audio skips here and there, it's pretty responsive. F-Zero X works flawlessly.
One thing I find troubling though is that when I hook up the MHL to HDMI adapter games that once played fine take a noticeable hit in performance. MarioKart becomes unplayable once I hook up the adapter. Does anyone know if the adapter demands more resources (GPU/CPU/RAM/etc)? I would imagine it does since the phone doubles the output instead of redirects it (phone display and MicroUSB out) but I also am not technical enough to really know how this stuff works. It's crummy, cuz playing the N64 and PSX emulators on my projector with a PS3 dual shock controller was one of the major things I was looking forward to with this phone. I see videos on youtube of people doing this on their GSII and it works fine. What gives? Is it ICS?
No its because the gn is pushing 2.4x more pixels than the gs2 and a less powerful gpu.
1280x720 vs 800x480
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No its because the gn is pushing 2.4x more pixels than the gs2 and a less powerful gpu.
1280x720 vs 800x480
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That has yet to be fully determined. Some ppl hv smoother frame rates than other on the same game but different rom. Though it could be software and hardware related. We need to reach out to the dev (yongzh) and let him know
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Under the development options in android see if there is a "Force GPU rendering" option and if there is check it and let me know if there are any changes.
I notices if you disable fog and stretch to fix screen on N64oid you see a HUGE performance increase.
Im hoping the dev for FPSE fixes the analog issues soon.
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Forcing GPU didn't seem to make a difference, and actually seemed to crash some emulators. I've kept stretch off because N64 games aren't widescreen, and toggle fog made a VERY slight difference.
Mupen64Plus seems to be running a tad faster than n64oid. just set autoframe skip and max frame skip to 5. BUT the on screen controls keep disappearing and are rather tiny.
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Mupen64Plus seems to be running a tad faster than n64oid. just set autoframe skip and max frame skip to 5. BUT the on screen controls keep disappearing and are rather tiny.
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You're right, it's definitely running faster than n64oid. But the disappearing controls are obnoxious, and I think the emulator itself needs a little bit of polish. For example, if you lock the screen and wake it back up, it closes the emulator completely. Same if you get a call or something.
Has fpse implemented sixaxis controller app yet? Or using sixaxis or usb contoller period?
Crazy world, ay?
I've been using PS3 dualshock via sixaxis for FPse just fine since I've had the phone. Just have to map it out in the settings.
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I've been using PS3 dualshock via sixaxis for FPse just fine since I've had the phone. Just have to map it out in the settings.
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Ok. I tried recently and it did not work completely. Any suggestions where i might've messed up?
Crazy world, ay?
Use the free sixaxis pairing app to assign the bluetooth address of your phone to the controller (requires hooking your controller up to your computer with a usb cable). Once you've done that, use the paid sixaxis app to actually pair the controller to the phone via bluetooth. Then, within FPse go into settings, input, hardware keys, and just map the buttons. I know you've probably done some of the beginning of that already, but I'm not really sure where you're having problems.
Or is it possible to use games with the physical keyboard?
Only one that I know of is the quake 3 port for android.
Here http://code.google.com/p/kwaak3/
The dev would have to include that functionality in their game unfortunately, nothing we can do on this end. But, you can play Playstation Games using the FPse emulator on the market, and that lets you map buttons to the physical keyboard.
There's an app coming out (out already maybe?) for jailbroken iOS that maps bluetooth controller input to touch regions on the screen.
Basically it takes input from the controller and passes it as if someone had touched the appropriate control area.
Not sure if something similar is doable within the Android system.
Trying to find where I saw this recently, will provide a link to clarify as soon as I do.
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http://www.icontrolpad.com/blutrol/
Something like that would solve the issue in question.
This would be cool for emulators. Sometimes its hard to play games with onscreen buttons on emulators for me at least.
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This would be cool for emulators. Sometimes its hard to play games with onscreen buttons on emulators for me at least.
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Personally, I've found that the Desire Z keyboard isn't ideal for playing emulated games. Better than touch screen for sure, but not ideal.
Bluez-ime + a wiimote is my preferred choice.
Replica island supports keyboard too, can be found on market.
Ozzy's Odessey is controllable with the hardware keyboard. I found the game very enjoyable
https://market.android.com/details?...SwxLDEsImNvbS5jYXJib25jcnlzdGFsLm9keXNzZXkiXQ..
muriani said:
There's an app coming out (out already maybe?) for jailbroken iOS that maps bluetooth controller input to touch regions on the screen.
Basically it takes input from the controller and passes it as if someone had touched the appropriate control area.
Not sure if something similar is doable within the Android system.
Trying to find where I saw this recently, will provide a link to clarify as soon as I do.
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http://www.icontrolpad.com/blutrol/
Something like that would solve the issue in question.
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Thought of developing something similar hundred times, but there were problems (can't remember which exactly.. Nice to know that if it has been done, it's possible to do it!
INC by OrangePixel is also playable using the keyboard
Turbofly 3D is great to play with the keyboard!
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You can use your physical keyboard with emulators. I use it for my snes.
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So far I've found:
Cordy,
Spectral Souls (configurable layout, I assume Generation of Chaos does that too),
Zenonia 4 (weird layout but playable).
other games too
Games like gta 3 can also be controlled through an external keyboard.
Sonic the Hedgehog 1 uses WASD and some odd key for jump (I forget which) on my Desire Z. Not really tried many other as I'm not really a gamer.
I just wondering in forum and found that topic.
Very nice physical keyboard working on all rogue like games , angband etc.
The best experiance with physical keyboard.
I find that the Desire Z keyboard is rather nice for gaming. It's just that the keyboard layout isn't parallel like normal keyboards so using WASD is pretty difficult.
games using physical keyboard: Andrio's World, Ozzy's Odyssey Trial
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I find that the Desire Z keyboard is rather nice for gaming. It's just that the keyboard layout isn't parallel like normal keyboards so using WASD is pretty difficult.
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??? It's like a normal keyboard? what's the problem?
there is no problems for some people with undersized fingers...
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there is no problems for some people with undersized fingers...
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What does that have to do with the statement "It's just that the keyboard layout isn't parallel like normal keyboards"?
There are many many games out there that are playable on the new Atom powered tablets. Mafia 1 for instance looks great, probably better than any sandbox game for tablets.
And there are many more, think of diablo 2 for example.
The problem is, we lack the controls without a keyboard and mouse.
What I have in mind is an overlay control set including mapable keys and directional joysticks, like the ones most Android games come with by default.
Does anybody know if such an app exists? If someone were to make one, I'm sure it would sell like hotcakes provided the vast array of legendary titles windows can boas with.
So far all I have found are Comfort on-screen keyboard and hot virtual keyboard. They're quite expensive but I managed to play Need for Speed 5 and carmageddon TDR
What we need is joystick emulation, to be able to aim, even though without auto aiming, gaming on a tablet can be quite tricky.
Someone make a gummy stickonscreen Bluetooth capable dpad and buttons for our win8 tablets
Thankyou
I've been working on something like this.
It's all in .net, so it runs fine on Windows 8 and Windows RT. I still need to get it loading configs up properly (for customization), but I've got all the hard/tricky parts done.
It doesn't seem to like Quake, but it works great with DosBox.
So where do those keys come from? Are they built in dosbox?
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So where do those keys come from? Are they built in dosbox?
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No, it's a program I made. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142997
I just started reading up on Ouya, and I'm thinking about porting my games to there, but they don't work well with a joystick/controller.
I read that Ouya has a touch sensor of some kind.
Does anyone know if this is the same as a touchscreen on a phone/tablet?
Would i have to change my code in my html5 games to detect this touch sensor, or would it just work with events like ontouchstart etc.?
The controller has a touch sensor in the middle - for moving a mouse pointer around. I'm not sure what you will have to do to adapt your games to it, but OUYA is more aimed at controller input.
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is it really possible to port console games?
I would suggest downloading and looking at their dev kit. It's free. Probably give more insight into the controllers capabilities.
With that said, if the game was designed with touch inputs to start, it probably isn't a controller friendly game. Just like most third/first person shooter games are not that touch input user friendly. Thus, part of the question and answer is going to depending on your game.
Yes it is just the same, you can use it on other games ^^
At the moment it simply acts as a mouse. in fact, nobody at OUYA knows how to NOT use it as just a mouse. also, for the first half-second after activating the touch-pad... the OUYA doesnt differentiate between which controller is in use, and returns the feedback for all players in that time.
As OUYA didn't realise it was necesarry to have a pause/menu button on their controllers, some devs caught touchpad movement as a menu-activation, but that has since changed, and really, so has most community support for the very low res touchpad
You can use it for touch feedback ingame provided you use YOUR OWN methods to determine which player used it, and that you can adjust the resolution of the touchpad to the different screen resolutions yourself, as OUYA also doesnt calculate that part (ie 720lines vs 1080)
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At the moment it simply acts as a mouse. in fact, nobody at OUYA knows how to NOT use it as just a mouse. also, for the first half-second after activating the touch-pad... the OUYA doesnt differentiate between which controller is in use, and returns the feedback for all players in that time.
As OUYA didn't realise it was necesarry to have a pause/menu button on their controllers, some devs caught touchpad movement as a menu-activation, but that has since changed, and really, so has most community support for the very low res touchpad
You can use it for touch feedback ingame provided you use YOUR OWN methods to determine which player used it, and that you can adjust the resolution of the touchpad to the different screen resolutions yourself, as OUYA also doesnt calculate that part (ie 720lines vs 1080)
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My experience as well. It's a very crude laptop type trackpad, with horrible sensitivity. It gets the job done, but I wouldn't use it for anything game related. Only navigating UI that isn't controller friendly (especially if you install a new launcher such as Nova, like I did). And yes, I have actually already found a couple games on the Ouya store that are difficult/impossible to navigate with the controller without the trackpad.. High quality stuff..