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I want to buy a T-Mobile G4. Some questions.

I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?

So far I have not found any issues. It's been great on my end. Root will come.. It always does
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I bought the T-Mobile version from eBay and received it on Saturday. So far no issues. The only gripe I have is slow charging while using the phone, but I just ordered some quick chargers so I should be good.
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Thus far I am pretty happy with mine. I have noticed that it sometimes interprets a quick swipe as a press (thus opening an app I did not intend) and that, at least on mine, the digitizer may not go all the way to the edge of the screen. The leftmost 1/8" or so of the screen does not appear to register touch input. The right side isn't great either, but does seem better. I have not heard anyone else mention it though, so hopefully it is just my unit.
The only other gripe I have about it for now is that the viewing angle on the screen is pretty narrow. If you aren't looking at the display straight on it tends to get washed out.

danielhep said:
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.

Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Does the international version have all the same bands? I really want to have band 12. WiFi calling is also important to me.
I wanted to buy it through T-Mobile also so I could get it on EIP, but I could just finance it through my parents too.
Where can I buy the international version?
What do you think the probability is that the T-Mobile version will get rooted?
Thanks
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vmartinez39 said:
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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danielhep said:
How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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The stock ROM isn't awful. I came from SlimKat (based on CM) and there are definitely some features that I miss (Long press back to kill & double pressing back to switch the the most recent app mostly). But after installing Nova and reducing the DPI (via ADB) it is very workable. I am still holding out hope for root, but with how great the camera is I am not sure I would flash back to an AOSP ROM.

danielhep said:
I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
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Touch issues are fixed by the keyboard update. Just be sure to do all the updates available and you should be right as rain there.
Battery life, I get 28+ hours while streaming Spotify through BT speaker for 12 hours, an hour voice calls, as well as a bunch of other goofing around on the device. It's not Note 4 life, but it's far better than any most other phones I've had.
Root/unlock will come, but it could be a while. Honestly, I like the phone well enough stock to not really be all that worried about it. While I'm sure that some devs could make this a bit snappier by debloating it, the stock UI really is pretty snappy and nice.
Camera is also fantastic. Fast action shots come out clear....close up shots have TONS of detail.
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MicroMod777 said:
I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera

Th3Bill said:
ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.

Th3Bill said:
Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol

MicroMod777 said:
Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha

Th3Bill said:
Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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I had to pay a whopping $317 just to get my hands on a G4 through tmo's financing department. At least my monthly payments on it are very low.
But it will cost me $322 shipped for that ZenFone 2! I just want to play with it! lol

The phone is great, few things though, the root and subsequently the ROMs will be limited especially when compared to a nexus or even an S6, I have owned every nexus since the Galaxy nexus and I also owned the LG g3, which was a great phone, but development even to this day just never compared and that's mainly because of the carrier specific versions. So if you really like to try all kinds of different ROMs I suggest getting the Nexus 6 although I would say this phone is much better in my opinion but I miss and will continue to miss the variety of ROMs and customizations from my Nexus 6 as well as the screen and front facing speakers. Biggest benefit over the nexus 6 is the camera as well as the size/design/weight. As far as the battery I highly highly suggest using nova launcher instead of the stock LG and disable the LG apps if you can makes the battery life way way better, also get the free battery and SD card that will help to Haha.
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My only real complaint about this phone is the lack of root.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Are they waiting on the bounty to hit $15k or until they can get a solid app with no errors that they can charge for?
I think it's more about the app.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Well said sir,
I screwed up and bought a Note 4 because of the deal I was getting ($400 outright), I immediately put away my flashaholics LG G2, and head to XDA only to see the At&t Note 4 has no ROMS, Kernels, or TWRP. Could not be more disappointed, a phone that should be a beast is hampered by no root. I would never touch the G4 or any other phone without full permanent root available in first 90 days of retail release. You are better off waiting to see what the new 2015 Moto X, Nexus ??, and OnePlus 2 will offer.

New VZW G4 Thread

I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
*EDIT* - People keep asking about root and bootloader - The devs have found multiple ways to root and plan on releasing the first root method soon. They also say they are on track for a global bootloader unlock method. Stay patient and you'll have your root! Enjoy!

Tomyk89 said:
I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
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I came from the S6 and am liking the G4 very much. It wasn't much of a upgrade but the camera and manual mode really drew me to the G4 along with the removable battery and extSD. They are both great devices but in the end for something different I went with the G4.
EDIT: Great idea on the new thread structure, I was just thinking if they were going to do this.
EDIT 2: Back to the S6 for me... the G4 is too buggy for me. The one i just had had to be returned because of camera problems. It's a shame because I was really liking it until I took some outdoor photos.

Do you guys know how to take pictures in manual mode with raw format? How many other features are missing from our phones that the other carriers left alone?

Came from the G3, which I passed along to my father. I've been flashing it for him to feed my habit, but things are starting to look up for the G4 now.

Came from the S5 which I came from the S4..glad to be done with Sammy
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Give me root or give me death! Coming from an HTC m8, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X.

I came from the S4 was pretty happy with that phone (actually I'm still happy with that phone) but the G4 just looked like a great upgrade. Can't beat the SD card slot and removable battery.

I had the GS4 before this, and Sam lost me with what they ditched in the GS6 design. The LG G4 has made me a very happy customer, and I marvel at its performance. Even better, I get an extra sd card and battery through that promotion!

I'm still rocking a G3 until the G4 gains root access.
The G3 has been the most boring phone I've had. I really enjoy flashing roms, but life is just too busy now. Which is why the G3 (and I assume the G4 will be as well) is so great. This phone with root and TweaksBox is perfect. I just froze a few things, added a few features and changed the colors and I have a stable device that has everything I want and need.

Came from G2. Missed having a removable battery and SD card. Love the camera, wish there was an option to change the resolution though. I didn't think I would like the curve as much as I do. A little put off by how much Verizon stripped the LG features too. All in all I'm just as happy as the day I got my G2. I was actually sold on the nexus 6, but I couldn't get over my love of the back buttons.
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I had a G2, then a G3, and now a G4. In between these I had bought and returned a Droid Turbo, S6, One M8, and likely 1-2 more, but I always found myself coming back to LG.
I prefer the looks and ergonomics of the G3 the best out of all of them, it looked and felt much smaller than the G4, and looks more premium. The G4 has excellent performance and the best camera out of all of them though, so it makes up for it.

Umm hey guys, I have been trying my best to keep up with the root info on vzw g4, and last I heard, no luck and no bootloader unlock... Now, i dont want to jump the gun, BUT i have found a way to enable oem unlock. Is this something that has been accomplished yet? Or am I just all happy for nothing?

Everyone coming from the S4: I'm glad to see I'm not the only one ditching Samsung for their anti-user policies. I have owned every Galaxy phone 1-5. Not anymore. I've all but decided on the G4 for my upgrade next week. Excited about developments here!
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dustinah said:
Umm hey guys, I have been trying my best to keep up with the root info on vzw g4, and last I heard, no luck and no bootloader unlock... Now, i dont want to jump the gun, BUT i have found a way to enable oem unlock. Is this something that has been accomplished yet? Or am I just all happy for nothing?
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Are you talking about the option in Developer options to Enable OEM Unlock? If so, that's old news. It doesn't mean you can unlock your bootloader. It's just one more hurdle before unlocking it.

Okay, just making g sure.. Back to rooting exploring.. Hey, but at least I should get some brownies for showing up right?? Where might one find a list of tried exploits or is there no such list?

I've been an android user since 2012, and this January something possessed me and I bought an iPhone 6 after having a really bad experience with the Droid Turbo. Then I realized what a monster I had become and I sold my iPhone and got the G4. Best decision I've made, and root is just going to make this great phone greater.

Tomyk89 said:
I see that there are new carrier-specific groups. Pretty sweet! Root and bootloader unlocks are just around the corner.
How is everyone liking their VZW G4? Which device did you come from?
My previous device was the G2 and i loved it! The G4 is a great upgrade.
Don't forget to go put your name down to donate to the root and bootloader bounty! We owe a lot to these devs! :highfive:
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Hey mate, the Lounge was up and running, I assume as you were posting this thread. There's no reason for two similar threads.
How about changing yours to a "Which device did you come from" thread?
Thanks @Tomyk89

Misterxtc said:
I came from the S6 and am liking the G4 very much.
EDIT 2: Back to the S6 for me... the G4 is too buggy for me.
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That was fast!
You had a defect. This camera is the main reason I haven't returned the phone. My problem is some 3D apps not loading.
gpgtp2005 said:
Do you guys know how to take pictures in manual mode with raw format? How many other features are missing from our phones that the other carriers left alone?
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Yes. We do know how to take DNG photos.
The vs986 is missing smart settings, but they give us the search in settings.
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Give me root or give me death! Coming from an HTC m8, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X.
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The more I use phones the less I need root. I'm debloated and... Well, that's the only thing I "need" root for.

fr4nk1yn said:
That was fast!
You had a defect. This camera is the main reason I haven't returned the phone. My problem is some 3D apps not loading.
Yes. We do know how to take DNG photos.
The vs986 is missing smart settings, but they give us the search in settings.
The more I use phones the less I need root. I'm debloated and... Well, that's the only thing I "need" root for.
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I took a greater look today and I found the option in the manual mode for raw format.
But I am starting to wonder if I have a defective phone. My battery life is horrible, I am only getting maybe two hours of on screen time and I dont use my phone most days. I have tried factory reset, not loading third party apps and the like but it still wont go above the 2 hour mark of on screen time.

gpgtp2005 said:
I took a greater look today and I found the option in the manual mode for raw format.
But I am starting to wonder if I have a defective phone. My battery life is horrible, I am only getting maybe two hours of on screen time and I dont use my phone most days. I have tried factory reset, not loading third party apps and the like but it still wont go above the 2 hour mark of on screen time.
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I had the battery drain once. It was 3 hours for me, but it was only once.
They have the raw setting hidden in plain sight. I googled it.
Reviewers all out the G4 up against the S6 and its nearly as good as my older point and shoots. You need to check further into defects.

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I had the battery drain once. It was 3 hours for me, but it was only once.
They have the raw setting hidden in plain sight. I googled it.
Reviewers all out the G4 up against the S6 and its nearly as good as my older point and shoots. You need to check further into defects.
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I am thinking my unit is defective, there are other issues that I have been having as well. I think that I am going to call and get them to send a replacement.

5.1 Official Update for Verizon M9

Would like to hear feedback as far as when and where the 5.1 update shows up, as well as any problems downloading or applying the update.
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Nothing yet. Are we sure this is happening today?
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It was tweeted 5 days ago by Mo Versi https://twitter.com/moversi?lang=en that Verizon and TMo would be dropping today
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Yes I follow Mo also. I've not seen evidence of the update yet. And I just looked and it doesn't look like Mo has tweeted in several days. So you can make of this what you will. If someone gets the OTA notification please at least mention that this is go for today.
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I agree, looks like he over promised as usual. I got a non-answer from @HTCUSA.
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What do they consider their "social channels"?

Twitter @HTCUSA.
Ironically, that's where they told us 7/20, so FWIW...

Apparently tmo is getting 5.1.1 today. VZW tomorrow?
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Felonious Plankton said:
Apparently tmo is getting 5.1.1 today. VZW tomorrow?
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Source?

http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9-t-mobile-now-receiving-android-51
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Thx for linking that Gumby. I've been a lil busy. Still nothing for VZW. I'm starting to wonder if big red wanted more bloat added, thought the push could be optimized or they are objecting to something new that we won't get. Figures we'll be the last in line. I've looked around and see no updates of any sort.
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Still no official update. This is looking typical. Are there any rumors floating around as to what the VZW holdup is? Stagefright patch? Wait... I know... VZW asked HTC to unlock the FM radio. Lol
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Well T-Mobile just got there OTA. Hopefully that means we'll get it soon.
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Verizon is always the last to get updates. Every single Verizon phone I have owned is always 2-4 weeks behind everyone else.

Dstu10 said:
Verizon is always the last to get updates. Every single Verizon phone I have owned is always 2-4 weeks behind everyone else.
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I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ON FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.

xgerryx said:
I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ONE FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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Here is the think. Are you speaking of Firmware. FirmWare of Which has to go to Computer engineers and not the swash of Software Engineers that exist and work for every company?
Here is the thing And It seems that you and MANY MANY people do not understand Hardware.
They are still trying to optimize the code that RUNS the hardware. The screen is done already no power improvement can be done there as it is manufactured. Kernel level code that controls when its on etc yes can be modified. Updating the Firmware is no guarantee that it will make power consumption better. Optimizing the Kernel and how the CPU is used and when to shut things off will help. BUT there is a limit to where they have made it as efficient as possible. Can you come up with some solution that allows the Radios to communicate better that is certified with current technology. OF Course but it may only relate to when its on(HOW MUCH POWER IT USES-You want good signal right?).
The thing is the unit is hungry by default. A Simple Firmware Upgrade just isn't going to fix battery drain UNLESS
and I SAY UNLESS
there is a major bug that keeps a unit*component on the board* running, or IE using max power for the radio due to a signal strength glitch, or something that keeps the CPU on all the time instead of sleeping..... Things like these are fixable in an update.
If they can find power draining bugs/glitches then yes a firmware upgrade would help
Other wise IT is rare that they can just optimize over and over and over again. There are only so many fixable power draining issues that are caused by code that an be fixed.
This is something That I have learned while working on my BS of CE. Now Industry techs who pioneered this tech would be able to give a better answer
Also they have to make CPU profiles that fit everyones needs. When people install Power saving Profiles they get better battery life at risk of CPU strength. This is just nature and a way that modern can personalize their devices.
Also Android is still a battery hog :/ and the fact plenty of places have crappy signal suck to.

xgerryx said:
I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ONE FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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I have not experienced any type of battery drain on the phone. However the M9 seems to suck battery when running apps that require the screen to be on, or use a lot of resources to run. I do not see this as a problem with the phone, it is a problem with battery technology not keeping up with phone technology. Or to even elaborate more, there are much better and longer lasting batteries that could be used in phones, we just wont accept paying $2,000 for that technology. If you think this phone is bad you should try out the s6. You can drain the s6 battery in about 25 min with the screen on if you are lucky. I guess that is the cost of a better screen.

I disagree. I would bet it's this horrible os called lollipoop. Or the crappy kernel. But its debatable, I think the battery technology is actually pretty good.

What are you doing when you notice the battery draining?

xgerryx said:
I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ONE FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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Since you are s-off did you upgrade to the 5.1 firmware/os yet?
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A little advice please: Should I purchase the G4 for not?

Ok so I've been doing some research and HAD narrowed my choice on purchasing a NEW G4 (either H811 or H815) off of eBay. That is till I'd ran across some a crap ton of reviews talking about the bootloop and reading that there is no true fix. So I'm curious as to what precautions I should take if I buy the G4? Are the newer ones still having the same problem? Should I even bother with the purchase?

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Ok so I've been doing some research and HAD narrowed my choice on purchasing a NEW G4 (either H811 or H815) off of eBay. That is till I'd ran across some a crap ton of reviews talking about the bootloop and reading that there is no true fix. So I'm curious as to what precautions I should take if I buy the G4? Are the newer ones still having the same problem? Should I even bother with the purchase?
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Buy, but just bare in mind of the boot loop issue. It's still a great phone even with such as big defect, though if you are looking to root and get custom ROMs get the EUR H815 variants, SEA and other various variants are currently rootable but bootloader locked.
Source: I got a SEA H815 variant and just rooted it, and currently searching for bootloader solutions...

chances are very slim of bootloop but still may happen. i would say go ahead. but if no nougat for us f*** LG.

Appreciate the responses. Especially the tip about buying the European version of the 815. Curious though. I noticed there are custom ROMs for the 811 on the development page? That means its bootloader is unlockable right?

AnotherFreakinNoob said:
Appreciate the responses. Especially the tip about buying the European version of the 815. Curious though. I noticed there are custom ROMs for the 811 on the development page? That means its bootloader is unlockable right?
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yes h811 ican be unlocked.. if you in the USA then get the h811. if you in wurope then h815 that can be unlocked not all can.. search google it list of LG G4 that can be unlocked.

I wouldn't recommend it unless if you're into the custom rom scene and getting a unlocked BL phone of course. If it's a locked BL, you'll basically be buying a phone with no more support with a pretty high failure rate. Problem with buying them online is that you don't know if it'll be a newer batch or older one.

I should've clarified better. Yes I plan on using installing a custom ROM once the OS becomes dated. I use Straight Talk and they don't do updates anyway. So I'm guessing it was the older batch of phones they were the main culprit of the bootloop? The one I had my eye from eBay claims the phone is the newest version. Pretty much decided this was the phone for me till I saw the bootloop issue. Kinda leaning towards the HTC M9 now.

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I should've clarified better. Yes I plan on using installing a custom ROM once the OS becomes dated. I use Straight Talk and they don't do updates anyway. So I'm guessing it was the older batch of phones they were the main culprit of the bootloop? The one I had my eye from eBay claims the phone is the newest version. Pretty much decided this was the phone for me till I saw the bootloop issue. Kinda leaning towards the HTC M9 now.
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Check the first 3 digits of the serial. If it starts with 603 or higher you will have a good one . I wouldn't recommend a device where you find something like replaced mainboard or so. It should be really new and untouched.
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Really appreciate the info. Has helped tremendously. One last Q please, does the 603 or higher serial number apply to both the 815 and the 811?

Keep in mind that battery isnt strong if You are average user. I dont play with those kernel tweaks after rooting, so I got no more than 3 hours of screen on time. Usually 2,5 SOT. Also - no nougat as I saw in other posts. So if You want to get ir You will have to root and flash other ROM's to get it....

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Really appreciate the info. Has helped tremendously. One last Q please, does the 603 or higher serial number apply to both the 815 and the 811?
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Yes to both. The higher the better. If you have 608 it means it was manufactured in August 2016. 701 means January 2017.
I have 2 devices with 603 serial on heavy usage.
Ensure you get an unlockable variant because there are h815 variants which cant be unlocked and this is really very recommended for this phone..
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Keep in mind that battery isnt strong if You are average user. I dont play with those kernel tweaks after rooting, so I got no more than 3 hours of screen on time. Usually 2,5 SOT. Also - no nougat as I saw in other posts. So if You want to get ir You will have to root and flash other ROM's to get it....
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Nougat will come . agreed officially by LG !
Q3 this year..
I have 3 to 4 hours SOT but its okay. Main problem is the display drains the most.
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My girlfriend's G4 died like 4 months ago after a year of use (bootloop) and mine died today a couple of hours ago, it just wont start at all completely dead, after a year and a hafl of use, so, NO you shouldn't. The G2 was a beast and the reason I bought the G4. G4 worst piece of crap I ever had, battery problems a ton, display ghosting after a year of use (both mine and my girlfriend's and we didn't buy it from the same seller nor at the same time). Buying a Galaxy S7 edge next week.

LG G4 is a ticking time bomb. Even if it's "fixed from LG. Don't regret the purchase.
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Anyone switching to the LG V30?

I'm just curious if anyone is thinking of moving to the LG V30 and if so what are your thoughts as to why? I'm good with my S8+ on Tmobile right now, but wouldn't mind a new device by the end of the year. Don't really care about the goggles that they're touting to give away, there's just not enough usable content out there to make them compelling. I used mine for about a week and now they just collect dust.
Just wondering what everyone else is thinking.

Depends if you want root. LG has been removing fastboot commands from US phones for awhile. I have a V10 as a backup but can honestly say I have no interest in going back to LG devices.

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Depends if you want root. LG has been removing fastboot commands from US phones for awhile. I have a V10 as a backup but can honestly say I have no interest in going back to LG devices.
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I'm just curious, I liked the LG devices. What makes you say you won't go back to them?
I didn't know about them removing fastboot. Does that mean we can't root the V30?

I can't say for sure if root will be achieved. The only reason root was achieved on the v20 was the dirtycow exploit. LG had heat issues and screen burn in issues on the three devices of theirs I've had in the last few years. Not to mention the whole bootloop issue on many devices.

I will not, My G4, My v10, Mom's, friends v10's bootlooped. I can't trust my memories to a device that has James Bond (Sorry meant Mission Impossible) motherboard.
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No more LG devices after the way they handled the bootloop issue.

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I will not, My G4, My v10, Mom's, friends v10's bootlooped. I can't trust my memories to a device that has James Bond motherboard.
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Sorry for the dumb question, what does "James Bond motherboard" mean? I've NEVER had an issue with an LG device so maybe I'm one of the lucky few. I like the form factor and I like the devices themselves. Just I'm waffling between switching as I bought a bunch of stuff for the s8+ so what do I do with all the stuff?

Sanjsrik: Sorry meant Mission Impossible.. Meaning self destructing
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Sanjsrik: Sorry meant Mission Impossible.. Meaning self destructing
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Oh, no worries. Were a lot of the devices having this issue? I had no issues at all with my V10 or V20.

yes, and there was a lawsuit brought against LG.
info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...ssue-has-been-compelled-into-arbitration/amp/
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yes, and there was a lawsuit brought against LG.
info: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.xd...ssue-has-been-compelled-into-arbitration/amp/
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geezalou, that sounds awful. I had absolutely no issues with my V10 or V20. I really liked the devices. I even rooted and put a good custom ROM on them.

The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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I never had an issue. That's weird. Now, I'm starting to doubt the V30 thing. Well, the S8+ is a good phone so far.

I've only had my S8+ for a couple of months, so probably not. My last phone went tits up on me in August (my fault) and I needed a new phone, so decided to get the S8+, since it was one of the best Android phones available at the time. But if the V30 had been available at the time I might have opted for it instead of the S8+.
Tbh the fingerprint sensor placement still bugs the **** out of me. Others say that you get used to it, but two months later it still takes me 2-3 tries to get it to read correctly most times, even with a case. I use it dozens of times throughout the day, so it's not a little problem for me.
Don't get me wrong, other than that it's a great phone, and Samsung Pay is much better than Android Pay, imo. Also one of the first phones in years that I didn't feel the need to root immediately, which was honestly a bit of a surprise.
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It' s a damn good phone but the pOLED is a disaster. It's on the level of AMOLED 4 years ago with uneven illumination, blotches and stripes.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/16/16457544/lg-v30-review-design
The sad thing is this subpar screen will be probably in the Pixel 2 XL.

I had it and ugh sent it back oled and selfie cam were a bust for me.

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I've only had my S8+ for a couple of months, so probably not. My last phone went tits up on me in August (my fault) and I needed a new phone, so decided to get the S8+, since it was one of the best Android phones available at the time. But if the V30 had been available at the time I might have opted for it instead of the S8+.
Tbh the fingerprint sensor placement still bugs the **** out of me. Others say that you get used to it, but two months later it still takes me 2-3 tries to get it to read correctly most times, even with a case. I use it dozens of times throughout the day, so it's not a little problem for me.
Don't get me wrong, other than that it's a great phone, and Samsung Pay is much better than Android Pay, imo. Also one of the first phones in years that I didn't feel the need to root immediately, which was honestly a bit of a surprise.
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It's a lot better if you use a case to help find it

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The crazy nuts thing about the bootlooped issue from what I've experienced was; The G4, v10,G5,v20 line would bootlooped if u we're NOT rooted, NOT ever rooted, or currently rooted. My mom is to old to know what root is so she had a bone stock AT&T v10, My wife's was rooted on T-Mobile, and my father in law G4 was Verizon unrooted. so it's all carriers
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Now, I'm sort of sorry I asked. I was going to switch, but figure I can wait. While the S8+ doesn't have root or bootloader unlocked, the hell I know is better than the (you know the rest).
Anyone else seeing the "me-too" thing of LG offering the VR glasses. I have the ones that came with the S8+ but after the initial wow factor, it got old real fast and a lack of content made them useless. Even sideloaded, there wasn't a lot of good content. Most of it was overpriced and just bad.