Ok so I've been doing some research and HAD narrowed my choice on purchasing a NEW G4 (either H811 or H815) off of eBay. That is till I'd ran across some a crap ton of reviews talking about the bootloop and reading that there is no true fix. So I'm curious as to what precautions I should take if I buy the G4? Are the newer ones still having the same problem? Should I even bother with the purchase?
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Ok so I've been doing some research and HAD narrowed my choice on purchasing a NEW G4 (either H811 or H815) off of eBay. That is till I'd ran across some a crap ton of reviews talking about the bootloop and reading that there is no true fix. So I'm curious as to what precautions I should take if I buy the G4? Are the newer ones still having the same problem? Should I even bother with the purchase?
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Buy, but just bare in mind of the boot loop issue. It's still a great phone even with such as big defect, though if you are looking to root and get custom ROMs get the EUR H815 variants, SEA and other various variants are currently rootable but bootloader locked.
Source: I got a SEA H815 variant and just rooted it, and currently searching for bootloader solutions...
chances are very slim of bootloop but still may happen. i would say go ahead. but if no nougat for us f*** LG.
Appreciate the responses. Especially the tip about buying the European version of the 815. Curious though. I noticed there are custom ROMs for the 811 on the development page? That means its bootloader is unlockable right?
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Appreciate the responses. Especially the tip about buying the European version of the 815. Curious though. I noticed there are custom ROMs for the 811 on the development page? That means its bootloader is unlockable right?
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yes h811 ican be unlocked.. if you in the USA then get the h811. if you in wurope then h815 that can be unlocked not all can.. search google it list of LG G4 that can be unlocked.
I wouldn't recommend it unless if you're into the custom rom scene and getting a unlocked BL phone of course. If it's a locked BL, you'll basically be buying a phone with no more support with a pretty high failure rate. Problem with buying them online is that you don't know if it'll be a newer batch or older one.
I should've clarified better. Yes I plan on using installing a custom ROM once the OS becomes dated. I use Straight Talk and they don't do updates anyway. So I'm guessing it was the older batch of phones they were the main culprit of the bootloop? The one I had my eye from eBay claims the phone is the newest version. Pretty much decided this was the phone for me till I saw the bootloop issue. Kinda leaning towards the HTC M9 now.
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I should've clarified better. Yes I plan on using installing a custom ROM once the OS becomes dated. I use Straight Talk and they don't do updates anyway. So I'm guessing it was the older batch of phones they were the main culprit of the bootloop? The one I had my eye from eBay claims the phone is the newest version. Pretty much decided this was the phone for me till I saw the bootloop issue. Kinda leaning towards the HTC M9 now.
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Check the first 3 digits of the serial. If it starts with 603 or higher you will have a good one . I wouldn't recommend a device where you find something like replaced mainboard or so. It should be really new and untouched.
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Really appreciate the info. Has helped tremendously. One last Q please, does the 603 or higher serial number apply to both the 815 and the 811?
Keep in mind that battery isnt strong if You are average user. I dont play with those kernel tweaks after rooting, so I got no more than 3 hours of screen on time. Usually 2,5 SOT. Also - no nougat as I saw in other posts. So if You want to get ir You will have to root and flash other ROM's to get it....
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Really appreciate the info. Has helped tremendously. One last Q please, does the 603 or higher serial number apply to both the 815 and the 811?
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Yes to both. The higher the better. If you have 608 it means it was manufactured in August 2016. 701 means January 2017.
I have 2 devices with 603 serial on heavy usage.
Ensure you get an unlockable variant because there are h815 variants which cant be unlocked and this is really very recommended for this phone..
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Keep in mind that battery isnt strong if You are average user. I dont play with those kernel tweaks after rooting, so I got no more than 3 hours of screen on time. Usually 2,5 SOT. Also - no nougat as I saw in other posts. So if You want to get ir You will have to root and flash other ROM's to get it....
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Nougat will come . agreed officially by LG !
Q3 this year..
I have 3 to 4 hours SOT but its okay. Main problem is the display drains the most.
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My girlfriend's G4 died like 4 months ago after a year of use (bootloop) and mine died today a couple of hours ago, it just wont start at all completely dead, after a year and a hafl of use, so, NO you shouldn't. The G2 was a beast and the reason I bought the G4. G4 worst piece of crap I ever had, battery problems a ton, display ghosting after a year of use (both mine and my girlfriend's and we didn't buy it from the same seller nor at the same time). Buying a Galaxy S7 edge next week.
LG G4 is a ticking time bomb. Even if it's "fixed from LG. Don't regret the purchase.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-multirom-recovery-replacement-t3102395 I came across this thread while browsing XDA, and I didn't know if this has been tried before on the G4. It's basically a recovery replacement for a locked bootloader phone that allows us to flash multiple roms to a device with a partitioned sd card (I think, I may be wrong). I don't have any extra SD cards so I'm throwing it out here in case anyone wants to try it out and see if it works. If it does maybe we'll start to see some rom development *fingers crossed*
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I used this on my Note 3 and it worked really well! It's a great recovery replacement. Unfortunately you will need developers to build their roms to support MultiSystem.
I haven't tried this on my G4 because of the lack of MultiSystem roms for it. I haven't even been able to get FlashFire to work with my G4 (it may have been the file, I tried to flash to 60 FPS mod in flashfire and it failed, it didn't cause any issues, it just didn't flash like it was suppose to).
I am really hoping for a Bootloader unlock soon, or something similar to safestrap. IMHO MultiSystem works great, but SafeStrap was a better, and easier to use solution!
FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!
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FlashFire works. I'm just waiting on the roms!
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It works for roms as well?
mfun89 said:
It works for roms as well?
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So far it works for everything we've tried. We just don't have any roms to flash.
Some general discussion - http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/flashfire-locked-bootloader-g4s-t3182105
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Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...
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Maybe we can get another "Bump" type of recovery/images? Worked really well for the G3...
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Yes just hope it's in the works patiently waiting quietly
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Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet
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Sorry for reviving old threads but is this possible yet
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No
Keep working on it guys
I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.
RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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I'm not sure anybody's even working on the G4 anymore are they? I'm worried that people have moved on to greener pastures. I say this as a sad Verizon G4 owner btw.
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Bootloader or bootloader bypass has been an after thought for quite some time now...
what are you going to get? I'm not even sure whats out there worth picking up. I NEED replaceable batteries.
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RIP G4.. 6 mo left til contract ends.
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Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.
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Dang how are you already out in 6 months? I got this on release day and I still have a year to go. So sick of LG's skin but I can't get out early since I was dumb enough to do Verizon's device payment plan. Not that this phone is worth anything in resale.
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The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.
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The G4 has been out for a year plus. I don't understand your 6 month thought? Verizon also does early upgrades. I just don't see an upgrade worth the money over my G4 or V10.
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The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.
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The Verizon g4 didn't come out until June of last year - which is when I got it. Just jealous you only have 6 months left with it.
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May 2015 for the G4.. I like my v10 better. My S7 edge is okay but not worth the upgrade to me.I am planning for the lg V series upgrade or note 6.
I have until August of 2017 on mine. I upgraded to the iPhone 6 plus in August of 2015, then sold it for $500 and bought a brand new opened box G4 for $300 in February 2016. So my payment plan was for the iPhone, but in the end, I'll be paying $200 less total.
Hey all,
Currently a BB Passport owner and yes I do love my phone, However, the maps are not getting updated, its starting to get laggy, and BB making a push into android before deciding to just stay with IOT security. well I hope the priv does well but the slider would get chewed up in my line of work.
Thus here I am asking the following.
The G4 runs 808 which from what I've read overtime supersedes the 810 in performance due to heat and throttling. I was originally sold on the Sony Z5 because I work marine construction and figured with a good case the water resistance would proof nice and I wouldnt have to get a rugged phone whereby I lose a lot of performance.
Z5 has 810 and im personally leery of that chip since I read so many reports on it.
My attention then turned to the G4
from what i've read the phone has a nice camera, strong antenna and a nice leather back. Cool but, for me I need to know how it handles the weather. I plan on putting it in a defender case while at work, but it rains here on vancouver island A LOT. like inches a day sometimes and I may need to bust out my phone to calc board footage or weight of a lumber package or take a call or something.
Is the phone loud?
Is the phone going to be ok in a otterbox in those conditions? (I get OB is good for dropping, how about rain, the oops a puddle drop etc)
if these all look good, I may bite the bullet and grab one. Im really not excited to lose my keyboard on my passport but, some of the glitches im getting are over the top irritating.
Thanks all,
Jordan.
For the keyboard just install SwiftKey which beat any keyboard and you can set, personalized it to be more productive.
Put a thin case and it will be great.
It charges fast, the phone is loud.
Here is the thing. IF you do not care not having an unlocked bootloader for the G4, by all means, get the G4 since it is a fantastic device for average users. But if ever you'd gotten yourself an H815 EUR variant of the G4, absolutely get it!
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Here is the thing. IF you do not care not having an unlocked bootloader for the G4, by all means, get the G4 since it is a fantastic device for average users. But if ever you'd gotten yourself an H815 EUR variant of the G4, absolutely get it!
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Hrm, when I had a Droid before, mucking with it was kinda half the fun... that kinda stinks.. any word on bootloader ever being unlocked?
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It looks like the Canadian one is the h812... if I'm googling correctly.
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It looks like the Canadian one is the h815... if I'm googling correctly.
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Lol. I thing your google is broken .
H812 is canadien
H815 is euro and some middle east countries
H81? There are a lot of different models. Mainly different bands
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Lol. I thing your google is broken .
H812 is canadien
H815 is euro and some middle east countries
H81? There are a lot of different models. Mainly different bands
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I edited the post. Google fu fails me. It reads as though the unlock will come, just a matter of when. I'm sure I could entertain myself with stock but rooted I spose. Just kinda stinkeths
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Same thought.
My Nexus 4 is failing me (antenna)...
So I am thinking of buying a H815.
Do you have any trouble with it?
If you are using Android 6, is doze working?
camera
And does the it support the new Camera HAL v3?
Would be nice, to be able to take raw pictures
You can take Raw pictures on any G4 camera version, I thought. That isn't something new.
There aren't many custom roms because of the locked bootloaders. Fortunately the LG series really stopped me from being a flashaholic. Going back to stock AOSP leaves a lot to be desired.
We do have root and can flash custom stuff such as Xposed and Tweaks using apps such as Flashify. There just isn't a Custom Recovery for the locked models.
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You can take Raw pictures on any G4 camera version, I thought. That isn't something new.
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Depends on the sensor, if it supports RAW, but nice to know that the G4 is supporting it.
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There aren't many custom roms because of the locked bootloaders. Fortunately the LG series really stopped me from being a flashaholic. Going back to stock AOSP leaves a lot to be desired.
We do have root and can flash custom stuff such as Xposed and Tweaks using apps such as Flashify. There just isn't a Custom Recovery for the locked models.
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At least for the H815, it is possible to unlock the bootloader... but sounds very much like Samsung KNOX
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS
Will be flashing CyanogenMod as soon as possible, if I am going to buy it.
I got one
I joined the family today. I'll wait for someone to open that bootloader. One I got the phone in my hands I was sold.
Buy it anyway. Stock is better than any AOSP or Cyanogenmod any day of the century, and you will probably get used to LG stock anyway.
No idea why anyone would want to ruin a device by installing buggy software such as AOSP or CM and also destroy camera experience.
Can't see any reason for me to root or install rom's on this phone, it's perfect with MM.
On a side note, it's very easy to fix yourself too with a quick youtube guide.
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Buy it anyway. Stock is better than any AOSP or Cyanogenmod any day of the century, and you will probably get used to LG stock anyway.
No idea why anyone would want to ruin a device by installing buggy software such as AOSP or CM and also destroy camera experience.
Can't see any reason for me to root or install rom's on this phone, it's perfect with MM.
On a side note, it's very easy to fix yourself too with a quick youtube guide.
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is there Marshmellow for the G4 812's?
Hi, I'm from Brazil and the G4 that I have is H815P, don't know what this "p" means.. The software version is V10a...
You guy's could show me the right direction on how to look for root and kdz stuff? My H815P is similar or equivalent to the H815 (without the "P")?
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Hi, I was hoping someone could explain something for me. I'm looking through the forums and seeing the threads for roms and kernels specifically for H815 and H811, usually separate. I'm from the US, considering the G4 on T-Mobile. As I understand it, both can have the bootloaders unlocked (H811 comes unlocked, and the H815 can be unlocked).
I know the H815 has had Marshmallow released, and the H811 has not yet.
What I'm wondering and what I can't find a straight answer to is why, for example, when I look at CM downloads, I can find a v13 for H815 but only a v12.x for H811. The best answer I could find is something about there not being a released bootloader or modem for the H811 compatible with that. I don't know if that was accurate or not, but if it is that confuses me because I've had a Galaxy SIII whose last carrier Android release was 4.4.2, yet is still getting CM 13 releases pretty quickly and other AOSP updates from developers. Is the reason the H811 isn't just because there isn't enough people or developers using that model, so less are working on an updated kernel compatibile with it? I've never had to update my modem or bootloader for an update between Android versions, so I'm assuming that answer was wrong unless there's something I'm missing? I don't think there's a real hardware difference between the two models besides the modems/bands supported, right?
I'm trying to figure out my best option here, have had a Samsung Galaxy SIII since Aug. 2012, bootloader unlocked not too long after, and have really liked it until recently when I was having a slight issue with streaming audio over my mobile network and decided to switch back to stock for a short time to see if it fixed it and compare some settings, stupidly not realizing that in the 3 years I had been away from the stock firmware that Verizon had locked down the firmware again to 4.4.2 and nobody has figured out how to get around it.
I'm looking for a phone that I can install AOSP or CM or similar Roms on (Although I'm not against playing around with the LG Stock Android, it doesn't look that bad, but I want the choice) and am really hoping user removable battery and MicroSD slot. It's not a major must, but I would also like a fairly good camera.
Sounds like my best bet is either the Nexus devices or the LG G3 or the G4 H811. These all either have unlocked boot loaders or ones that are easy to more or less unlock, which I know is something I'll want if I don't want to be stuck on the version of Android the manufacturer supports. I can't stand the size the Nexus 6 or 6P is, haven't had a chance to see the 5X, but it's lacking the removable battery and memory card. I'm currently on Verizon, and would prefer to stay there, but am considering T-Mobile as a potential possibility. If I go with a G3 I'll stay with Verizon, if I go with a G4 I'll have to switch to T-Mobile.
I've seen the G3 and G4 in person, I like both, but prefer the G4 just based on the color temp of the screen, the camera, and battery charging (The G3's in Verizon's store were all low on battery because the charger couldn't keep up, but the G4 was fine I'm assuming because of the quick charging). But, it's looking like the G3 is currently better in terms of development support than the G4. My worry is in a year or so I may be stuck on a version of Android, whereas with my GS3 (Up until it got re-locked) it was still being actively updated. I can get the G3 online for ~200$ versus ~$400 for the G4, and the rest of the specs on the phone aren't different enough for me to care that much about seeing as my GSIII was handing all my requirements until recently.
Wasn't sure if this was the best place to post this, but my only option for the G4 is the T-Mobile H811, and if there is a big reason why that isn't supported (Whether it's because there's not a large enough user base or something else) then perhaps it's best I not consider that device?
It's been a long time since I've done much with porting Android and have been focused on the device I've had for the past 3.5 years, so I might be missing something here. If anyone can clear some of this up for me, it's be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
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If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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That's what I was asking about... Why do they need T-Mobile to release an update? I mean obviously it's easier if they do, but is it required or is it just majorly helpful? I'm asking because my current phone this whole "bootstack" stuff was never needed for developers to release updates. I'm just looking for that clarification to make sure that there's not some new requirement with this device that I'm not used to seeing that would make it unlikely to see development in the future, say if LG or T-Mobile decided to not update to the next version of Android after Marshmallow, if we'd be stuck on Marshmallow, or if the development could keep going like it did on the phone I currently have, where the manufacturer stopped development on Kitkat, but people are still releasing even current marshmallow builds.
I would not buy the G4 again.
For some reason it struggles with games.
Qi Wireless Charging is very very very wonky.
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Okay, if that's the reason why the v10 doesn't have any real development going on, that would make sense. I wasn't aware that that was a requirement. Figured it was just that there wasn't enough knowledgeable people working on it yet.
I got a clarification from a friend as to the bootloader question... I guess normally an updated bootloader has been needed moving from 5.x to 6.x, which doesn't appear to have been needed with the GS3 I have... I guess people must have rigged something, because updating the bootloader was never a step with that. He has a Nexus 5 (the orig one) and said he's had to flash a boot loader several times for this reason.
i'm too lazy to read all of this, but i was planing a long period of time to buy the G4, but i found some hardware cons and problems in it as a result of my deep search on youtube , gsmarena users reviews, xda forums and more.
The one problem that made me decide not to buy it and not to think about it any more is the self-die / bootloop hardware problem. read about it on xda bro. Adding this big possibility to the other cons (hardware + some software complexity) made this deal very risky as it will be my second device within less than a year.
i don't know if i'm right and made a good decision, i was believe in this device and i love it ..
I was originally considering picking up a G3, but decided against doing so because of the many reports of artificial "over-sharpening" of the picture quality. Since G4s have come down in price, they are now on my radar as well, so my question for the community is simple - does the G4 suffer from the same artificial sharpening that the G3 does?
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I was originally considering picking up a G3, but decided against doing so because of the many reports of artificial "over-sharpening" of the picture quality. Since G4s have come down in price, they are now on my radar as well, so my question for the community is simple - does the G4 suffer from the same artificial sharpening that the G3 does?
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On the camera it does unless you set it for raw. Ive taken many night shots that have been butchered by the camera and the prossessing
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On the camera it does unless you set it for raw. Ive taken many night shots that have been butchered by the camera and the prossessing
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I'm talking about the screen; not the camera (although if the camera's pictures are degraded worse than comparable devices, it is important to consider also).
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I'm talking about the screen; not the camera (although if the camera's pictures are degraded worse than comparable devices, it is important to consider also).
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U should more be considering about the bootloop issue in the g4 if u buy a used phone or new...buy g3 tmobile version only there is no bootloop in g3
Lol, off topic; let's get back to the question at hand
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U should more be considering about the bootloop issue in the g4 if u buy a used phone or new...buy g3 tmobile version only there is no bootloop in g3
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Lol, not using TMobile. And while I now know that the artificial sharpening problem on the G3 can be defeated, my question still remains if it is an issue on the G4.
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Lol, not using TMobile. And while I now know that the artificial sharpening problem on the G3 can be defeated, my question still remains if it is an issue on the G4.
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Yeah it does. I never hands on g3 but can confirm on G4 .
bummer!
rajkatiyar07 said:
Yeah it does. I never hands on g3 but can confirm on G4 .
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Bummer. Do any of the available Roms offer a way to defeat it?
Bill720 said:
Bummer. Do any of the available Roms offer a way to defeat it?
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own H818N so cant unlock the bootloader. so no flashing of the ROMs
Good to know
rajkatiyar07 said:
own H818N so cant unlock the bootloader. so no flashing of the ROMs
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That's a bummer. I'm guessing the situation isn't much better on the Verizon variant of the phone, so it looks like the G4 is probably out of the question as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the information though.
Bill720 said:
That's a bummer. I'm guessing the situation isn't much better on the Verizon variant of the phone, so it looks like the G4 is probably out of the question as far as I'm concerned. Thanks for the information though.
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Mate don't listen to these guys, they don't know what they're talking about...
The G4 does *NOT* suffer from G3's sharpening problems (personal experience as well as many reviews, check Anandtech's which is the best review site) and new G4's almost don't suffer from bootloop problems.
The display is brilliant, the phone is great, good battery and nice custom ROM support. If you want a G4 definitely buy it, now that price is low it has terrific value for money
P.S.: the camera as well is simply superb, just check "G4 Picture Samples" thread here on XDA
The plot thickens
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Mate don't listen to these guys, they don't know what they're talking about...
The G4 does *NOT* suffer from G3's sharpening problems (personal experience as well as many reviews, check Anandtech's which is the best review site) and new G4's almost don't suffer from bootloop problems.
The display is brilliant, the phone is great, good battery and nice custom ROM support. If you want a G4 definitely buy it, now that price is low it has terrific value for money
P.S.: the camera as well is simply superb, just check "G4 Picture Samples" thread here on XDA
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Interesting. Do you know how the custom Rom and kernel support is with regard to the Verizon variant of the G4? I was just on the G3 forums and there is apparently a lot of hoops that have to be jumped through in order to get custom recovery on a Verizon G3. Is it any easier and better on the G4? Are there any noteworthy pitfalls?
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Interesting. Do you know how the custom Rom and kernel support is with regard to the Verizon variant of the G4? I was just on the G3 forums and there is apparently a lot of hoops that have to be jumped through in order to get custom recovery on a Verizon G3. Is it any easier and better on the G4? Are there any noteworthy pitfalls?
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I honestly don't know, but I suggest you buy an unlocked H815 international model since it's for sure the most supported.
The G4 has great value for money now. The camera is superb. The screen is amazing and no it doesn't over sharp anything. This was only on G3. Battery life is OK nothing super but definitely not terrible. Newer G4s do not suffer from the Bootloop. The phone only misses a fingerprint reader. If you want root and custom ROMs but the international H815 which you can unlock.
VS986 or bust
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I honestly don't know, but I suggest you buy an unlocked H815 international model since it's for sure the most supported.
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Riardon said:
The G4 has great value for money now. The camera is superb. The screen is amazing and no it doesn't over sharp anything. This was only on G3. Battery life is OK nothing super but definitely not terrible. Newer G4s do not suffer from the Bootloop. The phone only misses a fingerprint reader. If you want root and custom ROMs but the international H815 which you can unlock.
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The H815 is a no-go for Verizon and Verizon MVNOs. It's gotta be the VS986. I'll check in on the Verizon-specific forums for details on that. Otherwise, I'd have to shell out the extra money for a Moto X Pure Edition, which is currently hovering at just below $200 on the used market; hopefully it and the G4 (whichever I decide to go with) drop off by the time upgrade season rolls around in the spring.
jinderation said:
U should more be considering about the bootloop issue in the g4 if u buy a used phone or new...buy g3 tmobile version only there is no bootloop in g3
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Bootloop is relatively rare - quit being a Trump scare-monger!
WTF? said:
Bootloop is relatively rare - quit being a Trump scare-monger!
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Bootloop is 100% possible guys dont fall for these tricks why because g4 is damn cheap
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The H815 is a no-go for Verizon and Verizon MVNOs. It's gotta be the VS986. I'll check in on the Verizon-specific forums for details on that. Otherwise, I'd have to shell out the extra money for a Moto X Pure Edition, which is currently hovering at just below $200 on the used market; hopefully it and the G4 (whichever I decide to go with) drop off by the time upgrade season rolls around in the spring.
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I'm sorry for you american guys, having carrier-locked phones sucks hard Europe FTW
Jokes aside, if you can't get an H815 then by all means go read VS986 forums here on XDA.
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Bootloop is 100% possible guys dont fall for these tricks why because g4 is damn cheap
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Newer G4's typically don't suffer from bootloops but they are still possible. Anyways LG does change it under warranty terms if you are so unlucky to get a bootloop on a new G4, even if you have a custom ROM.
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I'm sorry for you american guys, having carrier-locked phones sucks hard Europe FTW
Jokes aside, if you can't get an H815 then by all means go read VS986 forums here on XDA.
Newer G4's typically don't suffer from bootloops but they are still possible. Anyways LG does change it under warranty terms if you are so unlucky to get a bootloop on a new G4, even if you have a custom ROM.
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Why have a headaches to buy a defective device in the first place then wait for it to bootloop then loose all ur imp stuff in the process come here cry try to find solutions to backup data....this is all exhausting ...aint nobody got time for that...mind newer ones are also expensive like 300$ only like the s/n 5xx cost around 200$
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Why have a headaches to buy a defective device in the first place then wait for it to bootloop then loose all ur imp stuff in the process come here cry try to find solutions to backup data....this is all exhausting ...aint nobody got time for that...mind newer ones are also expensive like 300$ only like the s/n 5xx cost around 200$
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LG sold millions of G4 phones, a tiny few of those had the bootloop issue, and LG fixed them. And the reason that you buy an LG G4 is because it was the best phone overall, a year ago, and still is the best phone you can buy today, when you consider removable battery & memory card, camera, screen, audio quality etc. at ANY PRICE.
Tiny few ??? Ahem ahem its a manufacturing fault its bound to happen in every phone atleast with s/n 5xxx ....the blue print of g4 is exactly the same atleast for the older versions...so u are a bit exaggerated about tiny few of g4s while the reported are in millions..they r better options from the g4 like the moto droid turbo buy the 64gb version best phone best price better than g4 it is also cheaper than g4 u can get ot around 180US$ used
Every one Check out the consumer review for lg
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/lg_cell_phones.html
It kind of looks like everyone got rid of there G4? Or was it just not a very popular phone? I've been browsing through the topics a bit and there just doesn't seem to have been as much custom roms or kernels as with other phones in general..
Which is only convincing me more to get the new OnePlus..
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It kind of looks like everyone got rid of there G4? Or was it just not a very popular phone? I've been browsing through the topics a bit and there just doesn't seem to have been as much custom roms or kernels as with other phones in general..
Which is only convincing me more to get the new OnePlus..
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It's not that we are getting rid of the G4 nor it is not popular, it is in fact a very good phone other than its terrible battery life. It's LG who makes us get rid of them. I had no intention to get an OnePlus 3T at all if it wasn't the infamous bootloop issue kicking in. Hope this answers your question.
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It kind of looks like everyone got rid of there G4? Or was it just not a very popular phone? I've been browsing through the topics a bit and there just doesn't seem to have been as much custom roms or kernels as with other phones in general..
Which is only convincing me more to get the new OnePlus..
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They have horrible hardware. Its not if it will bootloop but when. My g4 of 2 years died the other day. Lol i got me a g5. No root no unlock no roms. Just the way i like it. Yea rite. This phone really wasnt popular cause of the horribly locked bootloaders. And hardware issues combined. Ure best bet would be to ditch it asap and get somthin else
It's a shame that LG seemingly supports few models like single SIM international version like the LG H815! For the long 2 years, dual sim didn't even get bootloader unlock! I should have got the LG H815 instead of the H818P. Now I'm aware that LG G6 single sim international version (LG H870) already having root, custom ROM as well as TWRP support! That'll be my next device.
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It's a shame that LG seemingly supports few models like single SIM international version like the LG H815! For the long 2 years, dual sim didn't even get bootloader unlock! I should have got the LG H815 instead of the H818P. Now I'm aware that LG G6 single sim international version (LG H870) already having root, custom ROM as well as TWRP support! That'll be my next device.
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yea im surprised lg doesnt punt software on thier batteries and devices to reconize official batteries and such
i just got a g5 and i cant say im not impressed cause i am but same thing here root on first version released and every one else is on the back burner now with absolutly no future
the g4 and g5 and any of lgs devices except certain models are dead ends now even g4 and hardware issues twrp bootloader unlock id buy another one i know i could get the rite model but shouldnt have too
lg made thereown bed they can sleep in it they want to sell more devices then.