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TBolt or DInc2...

Go.
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tbolt if you want LTE
inc 2 if you want a slightly smaller screen
we also know that the tbolt dev community is quite large.

Consider...
Everything I've read says that the Inc2 gets MUCH better battery life.
Inc2 is not rooted and will likely not have the same size development community.
That said, after 12 hours with the 2 I have to say I'm very happy. Battery life is much better than the og inc and the screen is very nice.
Can't complain.

If you can get 4G why wouldn't you get the Thunderbolt?

Slackeyed said:
If you can get 4G why wouldn't you get the Thunderbolt?
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Battery life and size are very important to some people, like me

Slackeyed said:
If you can get 4G why wouldn't you get the Thunderbolt?
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Its heavy, has ****ty battery life, and too big of a screen
any other questions?

orangedude654 said:
Its heavy, has ****ty battery life, and too big of a screen
any other questions?
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Nail... Meet Head.

I guess it comes down to this.
If you know you have 4g in your area, or getting it soon, and want fast speeds, Thunderbolt.
If you want worldwide GSM roaming, and probably not getting lte soon, then Dinc2 would be it.

orangedude654 said:
Its heavy, has ****ty battery life, and too big of a screen
any other questions?
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And it has a tft screen, not super LCD like the incredible 2.

if (want4g == true) {
get(thunderbolt)
} else {
get(incredible2)
}
if (wantbigscreen == true) {
get(thunderbolt)
} else {
get(incredible2)
}
if (wantroot == true) {
get(thunderbolt)
} else {
get(incredible2)
}

I had the TB and took it back after 3 days. The battery was so bad I couldn't stand it and the screen is better on the Inc2, and the Inc2 feels a million times better in the hand.

if you want a smaller, better battery life, 3g global phone that will never be rooted get the dinc2
if you care about development and haz lte in ur area get a tbolt

I wouldn't say never
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Wait wait wait, why do we think it will never be rooted? I thought everything eventually got rooted.

Root will come, it is just looking more problematic.
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Not to troll but Im really confused as to why HTC even released the Inc 2 and even more confused as to why someone would buy it with the Thunderbolt and Charge on the market. I could maybe see releasing it at the sub $100 price point but they didn't do that.
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Astromech said:
Wait wait wait, why do we think it will never be rooted? I thought everything eventually got rooted.
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wrong. one reason it may not get rooted is there probably won't be much dev support for the device. add that to the locked bootloader and..... never is a definite possibility.
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OneStepAhead said:
wrong. one reason it may not get rooted is there probably won't be much dev support for the device. add that to the locked bootloader and..... never is a definite possibility.
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This is something I've seen other developer types implying but I haven't been sure why. Why don't people in the know think there will be much dev support for this phone? I saw somebody tweet sarcastically when this very forum was announced that it would be mostly empty. Is it because the Dinc2 is not the top hotshot 4G phone? Is it seen as sort of a who-cares minor release? Are sales expected to be low? What is it?
As for the locked bootloader, the Tbolt had that too, right? That didn't seem to slow anybody down. Is it just luck to find an exploit that let's you unlock it and so nobody knows if it'll happen?

We had a tbolt for months before it was released to the public, had engineering firmware that bypassed signature checks, an old ruu with a known vulnerability in its radio to unlock the emmc, and a large following on day 1.
A different beast.
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jcase said:
We had a tbolt for months before it was released to the public, had engineering firmware that bypassed signature checks, an old ruu with a known vulnerability in its radio to unlock the emmc, and a large following on day 1.
A different beast.
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yeah maybe "never" was a strong word to use in regards to rooting
but i have a feeling the dinc2 community will look more like the samsung continuum than the bolt

Android L in question?

According to this source, LG has not released any good info on if or when we will see the update, unlike many other manufacturers have stated.
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...l-5-0-release-date-when-can-i-get-it--1257804

Yeah I saw that as well this was my first LG may be my last if this is true

Who cares until its a week plus since the other manufacturers release L? The other guys may have a approximate date but that means nothing (the past proves this statement). For all we know lg will be the first non nexus device to get it pushed out.

Good news? http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/lg-g3-android-lollipop-update-may-land-by-end-of-2014-24-10-2014/

Even once it's released. How many will actually update before a root method is out there for it. lol

Do you think T-Mobile might lock the device down when it releases this update? If they don't, does that make it easier to root? I am just one of those impatient always want the new shiny thing guys

i see a nexus 6 in my future. i am going to wait for the officail lollipop release for the nexus 4 (my back up phone) then install that, sell the G3 and put the money toward my nexus 6..... i tried but i just cant get used to the skins, and i miss cynaogenmod with a working camera.

jerseykat1 said:
i see a nexus 6 in my future. i am going to wait for the officail lollipop release for the nexus 4 (my back up phone) then install that, sell the G3 and put the money toward my nexus 6..... i tried but i just cant get used to the skins, and i miss cynaogenmod with a working camera.
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Man I'm in the same boat. Using n5 and debating selling the g3. Good hardware laggy software. I'd keep it and use aosp if I knew it wasn't still a month or two away from working camera and BT. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT lol just missed aosp.

I dont understand why people say the g3 is laggy. There's been post after post on how to get rid of any lag. Turn ART on. Reduce the scale of the animations. Blah blah blah. Read the forums. The phone might not be fast out of the box, but there's simple ways to make it faster. These devs will get the Roms done as long as everyone would search their forums instead of asking the same questions over and over again. Everyone is jumping ship because they don't have the ROM they want. Just be a little more patient. If you wanted a phone that's more on the cutting edge you should have bought or stayed with you nexus phone.

Really tho, with LGs last update, all that lag is literally gone.

Looks like we are supposed to get android lollipop by the end of the year! That's less than 2 months from the release! http://m.gsmarena.com/newscomm-10031.php

Confirmed.
http://www.androidguys.com/2014/10/27/good-news-lg-g3-g2-owners-will-get-android-5-0/

Yay! That is great news! It would be awesome if we got it before most of the other phone manufacturers. Thanks for the update.

This is just another rumor. "An lg rep said we should get it before the end of the year. "
That does not sound definite but at least possible, maybe probable.
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Richieboy67 said:
This is just another rumor. "An lg rep said we should get it before the end of the year. "
That does not sound definite but at least possible, maybe probable.
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It was posted on an official LG Twitter account. Pretty sure it's not a rumor.
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I should not have used the word "rumor" but I'm just a bit hesitant to believe anything when the word "probably" is used.
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So would this be for the international version? It would then go to the carriers after that right? From past experiences, T-Mobile has been slower than other carriers about updates

http://androidcommunity.com/lg-confirms-android-lollipop-coming-to-g3-and-g2-as-well-20141028/

I will believe it when i see it. This may be my last LG though if they dont get their update game in check. They are officially the WORST when it comes to updates IMO

frettfreak said:
I will believe it when i see it. This may be my last LG though if they dont get their update game in check. They are officially the WORST when it comes to updates IMO
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I agree. I really love the g3 but am really wanting to install a fresh rom like cloudy but am not going to bother if we are getting this update. I can't wait for this version and for someone to do a nice clean no bloat lollipop rom!
It is the waiting that makes me miss the n4 I had for almost 2 years.
At that point I seriously think our lgs will be the very best.
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I want to buy a T-Mobile G4. Some questions.

I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?

So far I have not found any issues. It's been great on my end. Root will come.. It always does
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I bought the T-Mobile version from eBay and received it on Saturday. So far no issues. The only gripe I have is slow charging while using the phone, but I just ordered some quick chargers so I should be good.
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Thus far I am pretty happy with mine. I have noticed that it sometimes interprets a quick swipe as a press (thus opening an app I did not intend) and that, at least on mine, the digitizer may not go all the way to the edge of the screen. The leftmost 1/8" or so of the screen does not appear to register touch input. The right side isn't great either, but does seem better. I have not heard anyone else mention it though, so hopefully it is just my unit.
The only other gripe I have about it for now is that the viewing angle on the screen is pretty narrow. If you aren't looking at the display straight on it tends to get washed out.

danielhep said:
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.

Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Does the international version have all the same bands? I really want to have band 12. WiFi calling is also important to me.
I wanted to buy it through T-Mobile also so I could get it on EIP, but I could just finance it through my parents too.
Where can I buy the international version?
What do you think the probability is that the T-Mobile version will get rooted?
Thanks
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vmartinez39 said:
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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The stock ROM isn't awful. I came from SlimKat (based on CM) and there are definitely some features that I miss (Long press back to kill & double pressing back to switch the the most recent app mostly). But after installing Nova and reducing the DPI (via ADB) it is very workable. I am still holding out hope for root, but with how great the camera is I am not sure I would flash back to an AOSP ROM.

danielhep said:
I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
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Touch issues are fixed by the keyboard update. Just be sure to do all the updates available and you should be right as rain there.
Battery life, I get 28+ hours while streaming Spotify through BT speaker for 12 hours, an hour voice calls, as well as a bunch of other goofing around on the device. It's not Note 4 life, but it's far better than any most other phones I've had.
Root/unlock will come, but it could be a while. Honestly, I like the phone well enough stock to not really be all that worried about it. While I'm sure that some devs could make this a bit snappier by debloating it, the stock UI really is pretty snappy and nice.
Camera is also fantastic. Fast action shots come out clear....close up shots have TONS of detail.
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MicroMod777 said:
I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera

Th3Bill said:
ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.

Th3Bill said:
Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol

MicroMod777 said:
Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha

Th3Bill said:
Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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I had to pay a whopping $317 just to get my hands on a G4 through tmo's financing department. At least my monthly payments on it are very low.
But it will cost me $322 shipped for that ZenFone 2! I just want to play with it! lol

The phone is great, few things though, the root and subsequently the ROMs will be limited especially when compared to a nexus or even an S6, I have owned every nexus since the Galaxy nexus and I also owned the LG g3, which was a great phone, but development even to this day just never compared and that's mainly because of the carrier specific versions. So if you really like to try all kinds of different ROMs I suggest getting the Nexus 6 although I would say this phone is much better in my opinion but I miss and will continue to miss the variety of ROMs and customizations from my Nexus 6 as well as the screen and front facing speakers. Biggest benefit over the nexus 6 is the camera as well as the size/design/weight. As far as the battery I highly highly suggest using nova launcher instead of the stock LG and disable the LG apps if you can makes the battery life way way better, also get the free battery and SD card that will help to Haha.
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My only real complaint about this phone is the lack of root.

MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Are they waiting on the bounty to hit $15k or until they can get a solid app with no errors that they can charge for?
I think it's more about the app.

mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Well said sir,
I screwed up and bought a Note 4 because of the deal I was getting ($400 outright), I immediately put away my flashaholics LG G2, and head to XDA only to see the At&t Note 4 has no ROMS, Kernels, or TWRP. Could not be more disappointed, a phone that should be a beast is hampered by no root. I would never touch the G4 or any other phone without full permanent root available in first 90 days of retail release. You are better off waiting to see what the new 2015 Moto X, Nexus ??, and OnePlus 2 will offer.

Marshmallow might be on its way soon.

Check out this link about the verizon lg g3 getting the update.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/01/verizons-lg-g3-being-updated-to-marshmallow.html

Interesting. Droid Life has an article up but in the screenshot, the software status was modified. Why would they release it for the G3 before the G4?

sefirosu0522 said:
Interesting. Droid Life has an article up but in the screenshot, the software status was modified. Why would they release it for the G3 before the G4?
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That blew my mind too. I was wondering if there was a reason like it was easier for them to do a older phone first for a software rollout. But it could be just Verizon being Verizon. Messing with our heads.

sefirosu0522 said:
Interesting. Droid Life has an article up but in the screenshot, the software status was modified. Why would they release it for the G3 before the G4?
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My g4 has said modified since the day I bought it new. I've done the previous ota updates without issue. I have no idea why as I've never applied root to this phone.
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sleepwlk78 said:
My g4 has said modified since the day I bought it new. I've done the previous ota updates without issue. I have no idea why as I've never applied root to this phone.
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I think the modified status has something to do with some models receiving certain updates at certain times. I have 2 of them and one a few months older and it said modified after an update right after I got it. The newer one doesn't say modified and it came with later software. But I've always taken ota's on the modified one
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Ive gone through quite a few G4s and I think some were botched from Verizon after installing their bloat and weren't reverted back to "Official" status. Verizon is aware of the issue and say it is normal.
On the update. The LG G2 got Kitkat before the LG G3 did. Who knows. Maybe they do it as a test to see how it preforms before releasing it to the newer gen.

Verizon G2 also got lollipop before Verizon G3.

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Ive gone through quite a few G4s and I think some were botched from Verizon after installing their bloat and weren't reverted back to "Official" status. Verizon is aware of the issue and say it is normal.
On the update. The LG G2 got Kitkat before the LG G3 did. Who knows. Maybe they do it as a test to see how it preforms before releasing it to the newer gen.
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Do you happen to remember the time frame between the g2 and the g3 update? Just curious if Verizon keeps it similar.

Verizon really annoys me. Why does it take them so long to roll out updates........are they too caught up trying to figure out how to load more bloatware on the update or something. At this point I'll be on to one of the new phones this year before the update even comes out. I like LG but this experience due to Verizon;s greed is making me consider either a different brand they dont lock down as much or possibly leaving.....which sucks because they do have the best coverage (AT least for me).

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Verizon really annoys me. Why does it take them so long to roll out updates........are they too caught up trying to figure out how to load more bloatware on the update or something. At this point I'll be on to one of the new phones this year before the update even comes out. I like LG but this experience due to Verizon;s greed is making me consider either a different brand they dont lock down as much or possibly leaving.....which sucks because they do have the best coverage (AT least for me).
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AT&T doesn't have it either. The other 2 carriers got 6.0. I would bet Verizon will get 6.0.1

Keep in mind, if a carrier sends out an update for a carrier variation and it has a ton of bugs due to rushing it, LG isn't going to be the one getting all the calls. I'd say that's reason enough to want to make sure it gets released when it's ready.
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The G4 on TMobile got Marshmallow: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/02/05/marshmallow-starts-rolling-out-to-the-t-mobile-lg-g4/

Colchiro said:
The G4 on TMobile got Marshmallow: http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/02/05/marshmallow-starts-rolling-out-to-the-t-mobile-lg-g4/
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The Sprint G4 got Marshmallow 2 months ago.
Verizon G4 was supposed to get Marshmallow end of January or 1st week of February according to some reports.
Hopefully next week! Ha

Update doesn't seem to have anything impressive. Wish it would fix my battery life
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thechaoz said:
Update doesn't seem to have anything impressive. Wish it would fix my battery life
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Huh!?

leroybrute said:
Huh!?
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The list of what I saw is coming in marsh isn't really anything I care about. My battery life is not impressive even with low screen brightness, no sync, no location yada yada. I've been at the game a while I know all the usual tweaks. My old note 2 killed this phone in battery life though I do love it so, I always find myself looking for a charger.

thechaoz said:
The list of what I saw is coming in marsh isn't really anything I care about. My battery life is not impressive even with low screen brightness, no sync, no location yada yada. I've been at the game a while I know all the usual tweaks. My old note 2 killed this phone in battery life though I do love it so, I always find myself looking for a charger.
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I have 2 G4's in the house and I have gotten as high as 5 1/2 hrs screen on with 38 hrs off charger. Average around 4 1/2 hours with 25 hrs off charger.
I am also always excited for the optimizations, features and fixes with any update.

leroybrute said:
I have 2 G4's in the house and I have gotten as high as 5 1/2 hrs screen on with 38 hrs off charger. Average around 4 1/2 hours with 25 hrs off charger.
I am also excited for the optimizations, features and fixes with any update.
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Damn... Idk... 3 hours screen time max on Uber low settings. . New phone... Maybe a dud battery?
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thechaoz said:
Damn... Idk... 3 hours screen time max on Uber low settings. . New phone... Maybe a dud battery?
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If you play games a lot that effects battery. I gained an extra hr of battery getting rid of my Facebook app and use Facebook through chrome. Just added a link to my home screen and set up notifications through my email.
If you have the Facebook app and don't have sync set up, it still runs in the background "resource hog". Hangouts, Google music, Google magazine or whatever it's called are always running in the background.
Just because you have nothing syncing doesn't mean that they aren't running in the background.
Ps. I leave sync on for everything. I also always clear my recents when I am done using my phone.
Hopefully this helps.

No fb app, never used it
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How good is HTC with updates and support

I'm thinking about getting this phone. How good is HTC when it comes to supports and updates? Are they one of the companies that drops support after a year of device life or do they continue to support it with updates for a few years?
Alos is it easy to update the official ROM with root and s-off or are there weird requirements/steps to update when you're rooted?
Thanks

bullet25 said:
I'm thinking about getting this phone. How good is HTC when it comes to supports and updates? Are they one of the companies that drops support after a year of device life or do they continue to support it with updates for a few years?
Alos is it easy to update the official ROM with root and s-off or are there weird requirements/steps to update when you're rooted?
Thanks
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They are pretty good with updates. I would say Motorola is the fastest followed by htc and then LG and Samsung.
Also depends on what version of the phone you have
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They're pretty good with updates. But if you buy unlocked/directly from htc then you get faster updates than through a carrier.
For example, I have the t-mobileUS version and haven't rooted/SOFFed or any of that but it just got updated today with software 1.81 which the unlocked versions got a couple weeks after release. But overall i'd say it didn't take tmobile too long to update it.

HTC seems to be decent with their updates. Especially if you switch your CID to the unlocked version.
Sammy takes way too long with theirs. Gotta tailor that bloat yo.
That being said, I feel like Sense is heavier than reviews initially let on. I had to switch to Nova.

Yes they are good and fast regarding updates.
As for all devices running Android 6 and using block based OTA you got to know some steps to be taken prior to updating, if you're rooted. But that's just the way it is. A little bit of reeding will do just fine
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cvsolidx17 said:
HTC seems to be decent with their updates. Especially if you switch your CID to the unlocked version.
Sammy takes way too long with theirs. Gotta tailor that bloat yo.
That being said, I feel like Sense is heavier than reviews initially let on. I had to switch to Nova.
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