Go.
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tbolt if you want LTE
inc 2 if you want a slightly smaller screen
we also know that the tbolt dev community is quite large.
Consider...
Everything I've read says that the Inc2 gets MUCH better battery life.
Inc2 is not rooted and will likely not have the same size development community.
That said, after 12 hours with the 2 I have to say I'm very happy. Battery life is much better than the og inc and the screen is very nice.
Can't complain.
If you can get 4G why wouldn't you get the Thunderbolt?
Slackeyed said:
If you can get 4G why wouldn't you get the Thunderbolt?
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Battery life and size are very important to some people, like me
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If you can get 4G why wouldn't you get the Thunderbolt?
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Its heavy, has ****ty battery life, and too big of a screen
any other questions?
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Its heavy, has ****ty battery life, and too big of a screen
any other questions?
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Nail... Meet Head.
I guess it comes down to this.
If you know you have 4g in your area, or getting it soon, and want fast speeds, Thunderbolt.
If you want worldwide GSM roaming, and probably not getting lte soon, then Dinc2 would be it.
orangedude654 said:
Its heavy, has ****ty battery life, and too big of a screen
any other questions?
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And it has a tft screen, not super LCD like the incredible 2.
if (want4g == true) {
get(thunderbolt)
} else {
get(incredible2)
}
if (wantbigscreen == true) {
get(thunderbolt)
} else {
get(incredible2)
}
if (wantroot == true) {
get(thunderbolt)
} else {
get(incredible2)
}
I had the TB and took it back after 3 days. The battery was so bad I couldn't stand it and the screen is better on the Inc2, and the Inc2 feels a million times better in the hand.
if you want a smaller, better battery life, 3g global phone that will never be rooted get the dinc2
if you care about development and haz lte in ur area get a tbolt
I wouldn't say never
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Wait wait wait, why do we think it will never be rooted? I thought everything eventually got rooted.
Root will come, it is just looking more problematic.
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Not to troll but Im really confused as to why HTC even released the Inc 2 and even more confused as to why someone would buy it with the Thunderbolt and Charge on the market. I could maybe see releasing it at the sub $100 price point but they didn't do that.
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Astromech said:
Wait wait wait, why do we think it will never be rooted? I thought everything eventually got rooted.
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wrong. one reason it may not get rooted is there probably won't be much dev support for the device. add that to the locked bootloader and..... never is a definite possibility.
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OneStepAhead said:
wrong. one reason it may not get rooted is there probably won't be much dev support for the device. add that to the locked bootloader and..... never is a definite possibility.
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This is something I've seen other developer types implying but I haven't been sure why. Why don't people in the know think there will be much dev support for this phone? I saw somebody tweet sarcastically when this very forum was announced that it would be mostly empty. Is it because the Dinc2 is not the top hotshot 4G phone? Is it seen as sort of a who-cares minor release? Are sales expected to be low? What is it?
As for the locked bootloader, the Tbolt had that too, right? That didn't seem to slow anybody down. Is it just luck to find an exploit that let's you unlock it and so nobody knows if it'll happen?
We had a tbolt for months before it was released to the public, had engineering firmware that bypassed signature checks, an old ruu with a known vulnerability in its radio to unlock the emmc, and a large following on day 1.
A different beast.
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jcase said:
We had a tbolt for months before it was released to the public, had engineering firmware that bypassed signature checks, an old ruu with a known vulnerability in its radio to unlock the emmc, and a large following on day 1.
A different beast.
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yeah maybe "never" was a strong word to use in regards to rooting
but i have a feeling the dinc2 community will look more like the samsung continuum than the bolt
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I'm in a quandary and I wanted to find out where people are going after the Desire. For me it is pretty much the perfect phone, this is down to build quality and developer support.
I don't know if i can move to a phone that doesn't have as much support, what will i do without all my flashing?!
Anyway, the SGSII is plastic and the Sensation isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination (it isn't the 'new Desire' in terms of changing the game).
What are others upgrading to? I've got 6 months on my contract, do i buy myself out and upgrade or wait it out?
All thoughts very welcome!
Now that the bootloader is unlocked im going with the sensation but a lot of people seem to be going with the galaxy s II
i would wait to see what the nexus 3 will be like, it is coming out with ice cream sandwhich and is proberly going to have a tegra 3 processor and google phones always have loads of development.
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i would wait to see what the nexus 3 will be like, it is coming out with ice cream sandwhich and is proberly going to have a tegra 3 processor and google phones always have loads of development.
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What's the lead time on that? Are we expecting it this year? That will also depend on manufacturer for me too... can't deal with plastic phones!
This might be some sort of sacrilege but I would to see an Android device with the same design ethos as the iPhone 4.
HTC Sensation looks closest but I'm done with Sense.
Galaxy S2 would edge it for me at the moment though.
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Maix27 said:
What's the lead time on that? Are we expecting it this year? That will also depend on manufacturer for me too... can't deal with plastic phones!
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it is expected in time for xmas or in january it is also going to be made by htc or lg, google hasn't desided yet
A friend of mine has the HTC Incredible S and it's really nice, the only problem is, it still has the locked bootloader and I'm not sure how easy rooting it would be.
FlareHeart said:
A friend of mine has the HTC Incredible S and it's really nice, the only problem is, it still has the locked bootloader and I'm not sure how easy rooting it would be.
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With locked bootloader it is practical impossible to install a custom rom.
Maix27 said:
Where next?
I'm in a quandary and I wanted to find out where people are going after the Desire. For me it is pretty much the perfect phone, this is down to build quality and developer support.
I don't know if i can move to a phone that doesn't have as much support, what will i do without all my flashing?!
Anyway, the SGSII is plastic and the Sensation isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination (it isn't the 'new Desire' in terms of changing the game).
What are others upgrading to? I've got 6 months on my contract, do i buy myself out and upgrade or wait it out?
All thoughts very welcome!
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Although you do not want it, a very good review of sgsII:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
The lg optimus speed p990 seems to be good, too.
If i were you, i would buy the sgsII or wait until the next htc-phone with as of now again unlocked bootloader releases and buy this one.
I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.
Pictures or it didn't happen. Just kidding. That's great news. Happen to remember the build number. Just wondering because the first update might not contain face recognition.
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Was there like a date he had in mind? Like early next year or late this month?
EDIT: I think its suppose to be ICS by the way man.
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deadmanmalu13 said:
I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.
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http://markbiwwa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bull****.jpg
pics or it didnt happen. trust me, if it was coming, engadget and other sites would have been all over it because the et4g is still one of the co-kings of android along with the new nexus
^
Plus you have the wrong ICS! So a troll pointing out a troll.
Looks like there is some truth to this based on some google searching for the past 24 hours:
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns
Dude hasn't posted anything in almost 2 years, he is either a troll who owns an iphone now...
OR
HE IZ RITE AND ICS IS ALMOST HER!1!!!!!!1
FYI
From the Samsung Mobile Twitter Feed
More: http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-to-get-the-ICS-4-0-1-Update-during-Jan-2012
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.
btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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odub303 said:
Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.
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Exactlt. Just cause the international version might get it in january doesnt mean we will. I dont believe the ops story. Take a pic of his phone's about phone info.
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bbedward said:
The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?
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Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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Isn't the latest OTA dealing with the LOS and some other issues? I'd assume they can't really wait until the ICS and leave customers hanging that much longer with all the backlash.
im just letting you guys know... i know i haven't posted anything in a long time but i read and go through these forums almost everyday.. i just don't post things but usually other people post what i have to say.... so take it for what its worth, i personally don't really care if you guys think im lying its all good.
kingsway8605 said:
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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This update date may be the one that allows the device to be updated to ICS. Im sure one of the Delvs will dig into the files to see the differences(other than CIQ)
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pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?
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the screen doesn't matter they are the exact same screen just different sizes. Processor, CPU, gpu, wifi/bt chip, dac are all identical.
The LED is as simple as a kernel that supports it and a rom that uses it.
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I'm coming from an incredible 2 and was wondering if i should buy a Galaxy Nexus out right for 239$ or upgrade to a Droid DNA.
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I'm coming from an incredible 2 and was wondering if i should buy a Galaxy Nexus out right for 239$ or upgrade to a Droid DNA.
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Droid DNA all the way. I want one so bad. The question is really wether you want sense or AOSP.
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Just my opinion....go Nexus. No more waiting for mythical updates :/
I would expect the DNA to be just like the Inc2.....the best device upon release, but a year later its a forgotten device. Nexi are guaranteed 2 OS version updates.
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The thing i want the most is alot of dev support like the inc2 had but i heard that the DNA might be like the Rezound on the support end.
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andrewk7750 said:
The thing i want the most is alot of dev support like the inc2 had but i heard that the DNA might be like the Rezound on the support end.
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Understood, although, the Rez didn't have nitsuj17. The DNA will.
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I really want a DNA
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I'd wait and see if some devs hop on the DNA...
Well, I guess i'm gonna go with the Droid DNA, I'm sure it will have great dev support seeing that TeamandIRC has an unlock on it already
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Good pick
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I'm coming from an incredible 2 and was wondering if i should buy a Galaxy Nexus out right for 239$ or upgrade to a Droid DNA.
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The DNA has non removable battery and memory.
I need way more than the 16 gigabyte it comes with.
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wmsforties said:
The DNA has non removable battery and memory.
I need way more than the 16 gigabyte it comes with.
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Well they both don't have microSD slots so you would have to spend more for the 32gb nexus
I'm so fresh you can suck my nits...
I ended up buying a Nexus. I never have really cared about the latest or greatest spec'd phone, but updates and roms are what make a phone in my opinion. I previously had an OG droid which was awesome for that. I was kind of let down with the inc2 since I got it late in the game and most developers had jumped ship already. The Nexus has a great community behind it with fast updates. Feels like home again.
baggar11 said:
I ended up buying a Nexus. I never have really cared about the latest or greatest spec'd phone, but updates and roms are what make a phone in my opinion. I previously had an OG droid which was awesome for that. I was kind of let down with the inc2 since I got it late in the game and most developers had jumped ship already. The Nexus has a great community behind it with fast updates. Feels like home again.
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Join the club!
I recently had a Dinc2 and bought a GNex outright for 200 new. Best decision ever.
I wont buy HTC ever again, just because they dont update phones as fast. I dont know how much longer the GNex will be supported, but at least it officially runs 4.1.1 and there is no need to hack bootloaders and such.
I also prefer AOSP and love that there is minimal bloatware on the phone.
The DNA is new which is nice, but no sd card (probably all phones will go to this setup) and no removable battery. On a 4G phone? No thanks.
Oh, and I kept my unlimited data...which I dont even use that often (maybe 1 GB) but I dont like Verizon telling me to spend more and get less.
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I recently had a Dinc2 and bought a GNex outright for 200 new. Best decision ever.
I wont buy HTC ever again, just because they dont update phones as fast. I dont know how much longer the GNex will be supported, but at least it officially runs 4.1.1 and there is no need to hack bootloaders and such.
I also prefer AOSP and love that there is minimal bloatware on the phone.
The DNA is new which is nice, but no sd card (probably all phones will go to this setup) and no removable battery. On a 4G phone? No thanks.
Oh, and I kept my unlimited data...which I dont even use that often (maybe 1 GB) but I dont like Verizon telling me to spend more and get less.
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This screams me. I just wish there was a newer phone like the Galaxy Nexus.
I could go on and on about how I feel about Android phone hardware...but that is for another place, another time.
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(I'm not attempting in any way to hijack this thread)
A lot of people have posted their upgrade decisions with reasons in this thread.
I've started a thread over in General that is similar to this.
It can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017081
I would appreciate if you could post your upgrade decisions there.
I want to 'index', if you will, upgrades from the Incredible 2.
This may help people with their decisions.
Also, congrats to OP on his/her new phone!
Thanks,
[::AP::]
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This screams me. I just wish there was a newer phone like the Galaxy Nexus.
I could go on and on about how I feel about Android phone hardware...but that is for another place, another time.
Lol...it screams you?
Yeah, I dont even care if the device is a year old now. When I got my Inc2 after its year old date it was still...slow. Just not a sense fan, but the phone was free...so I win. lol.
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I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
So far I have not found any issues. It's been great on my end. Root will come.. It always does
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I bought the T-Mobile version from eBay and received it on Saturday. So far no issues. The only gripe I have is slow charging while using the phone, but I just ordered some quick chargers so I should be good.
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Thus far I am pretty happy with mine. I have noticed that it sometimes interprets a quick swipe as a press (thus opening an app I did not intend) and that, at least on mine, the digitizer may not go all the way to the edge of the screen. The leftmost 1/8" or so of the screen does not appear to register touch input. The right side isn't great either, but does seem better. I have not heard anyone else mention it though, so hopefully it is just my unit.
The only other gripe I have about it for now is that the viewing angle on the screen is pretty narrow. If you aren't looking at the display straight on it tends to get washed out.
danielhep said:
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Does the international version have all the same bands? I really want to have band 12. WiFi calling is also important to me.
I wanted to buy it through T-Mobile also so I could get it on EIP, but I could just finance it through my parents too.
Where can I buy the international version?
What do you think the probability is that the T-Mobile version will get rooted?
Thanks
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vmartinez39 said:
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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The stock ROM isn't awful. I came from SlimKat (based on CM) and there are definitely some features that I miss (Long press back to kill & double pressing back to switch the the most recent app mostly). But after installing Nova and reducing the DPI (via ADB) it is very workable. I am still holding out hope for root, but with how great the camera is I am not sure I would flash back to an AOSP ROM.
danielhep said:
I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
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Touch issues are fixed by the keyboard update. Just be sure to do all the updates available and you should be right as rain there.
Battery life, I get 28+ hours while streaming Spotify through BT speaker for 12 hours, an hour voice calls, as well as a bunch of other goofing around on the device. It's not Note 4 life, but it's far better than any most other phones I've had.
Root/unlock will come, but it could be a while. Honestly, I like the phone well enough stock to not really be all that worried about it. While I'm sure that some devs could make this a bit snappier by debloating it, the stock UI really is pretty snappy and nice.
Camera is also fantastic. Fast action shots come out clear....close up shots have TONS of detail.
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MicroMod777 said:
I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
Th3Bill said:
ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
Th3Bill said:
Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
MicroMod777 said:
Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
Th3Bill said:
Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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I had to pay a whopping $317 just to get my hands on a G4 through tmo's financing department. At least my monthly payments on it are very low.
But it will cost me $322 shipped for that ZenFone 2! I just want to play with it! lol
The phone is great, few things though, the root and subsequently the ROMs will be limited especially when compared to a nexus or even an S6, I have owned every nexus since the Galaxy nexus and I also owned the LG g3, which was a great phone, but development even to this day just never compared and that's mainly because of the carrier specific versions. So if you really like to try all kinds of different ROMs I suggest getting the Nexus 6 although I would say this phone is much better in my opinion but I miss and will continue to miss the variety of ROMs and customizations from my Nexus 6 as well as the screen and front facing speakers. Biggest benefit over the nexus 6 is the camera as well as the size/design/weight. As far as the battery I highly highly suggest using nova launcher instead of the stock LG and disable the LG apps if you can makes the battery life way way better, also get the free battery and SD card that will help to Haha.
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My only real complaint about this phone is the lack of root.
MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Are they waiting on the bounty to hit $15k or until they can get a solid app with no errors that they can charge for?
I think it's more about the app.
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Well said sir,
I screwed up and bought a Note 4 because of the deal I was getting ($400 outright), I immediately put away my flashaholics LG G2, and head to XDA only to see the At&t Note 4 has no ROMS, Kernels, or TWRP. Could not be more disappointed, a phone that should be a beast is hampered by no root. I would never touch the G4 or any other phone without full permanent root available in first 90 days of retail release. You are better off waiting to see what the new 2015 Moto X, Nexus ??, and OnePlus 2 will offer.
Would like to hear feedback as far as when and where the 5.1 update shows up, as well as any problems downloading or applying the update.
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Nothing yet. Are we sure this is happening today?
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It was tweeted 5 days ago by Mo Versi https://twitter.com/moversi?lang=en that Verizon and TMo would be dropping today
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Yes I follow Mo also. I've not seen evidence of the update yet. And I just looked and it doesn't look like Mo has tweeted in several days. So you can make of this what you will. If someone gets the OTA notification please at least mention that this is go for today.
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I agree, looks like he over promised as usual. I got a non-answer from @HTCUSA.
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What do they consider their "social channels"?
Twitter @HTCUSA.
Ironically, that's where they told us 7/20, so FWIW...
Apparently tmo is getting 5.1.1 today. VZW tomorrow?
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Apparently tmo is getting 5.1.1 today. VZW tomorrow?
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Source?
http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m9-t-mobile-now-receiving-android-51
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Thx for linking that Gumby. I've been a lil busy. Still nothing for VZW. I'm starting to wonder if big red wanted more bloat added, thought the push could be optimized or they are objecting to something new that we won't get. Figures we'll be the last in line. I've looked around and see no updates of any sort.
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Still no official update. This is looking typical. Are there any rumors floating around as to what the VZW holdup is? Stagefright patch? Wait... I know... VZW asked HTC to unlock the FM radio. Lol
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Well T-Mobile just got there OTA. Hopefully that means we'll get it soon.
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Verizon is always the last to get updates. Every single Verizon phone I have owned is always 2-4 weeks behind everyone else.
Dstu10 said:
Verizon is always the last to get updates. Every single Verizon phone I have owned is always 2-4 weeks behind everyone else.
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I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ON FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ONE FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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Here is the think. Are you speaking of Firmware. FirmWare of Which has to go to Computer engineers and not the swash of Software Engineers that exist and work for every company?
Here is the thing And It seems that you and MANY MANY people do not understand Hardware.
They are still trying to optimize the code that RUNS the hardware. The screen is done already no power improvement can be done there as it is manufactured. Kernel level code that controls when its on etc yes can be modified. Updating the Firmware is no guarantee that it will make power consumption better. Optimizing the Kernel and how the CPU is used and when to shut things off will help. BUT there is a limit to where they have made it as efficient as possible. Can you come up with some solution that allows the Radios to communicate better that is certified with current technology. OF Course but it may only relate to when its on(HOW MUCH POWER IT USES-You want good signal right?).
The thing is the unit is hungry by default. A Simple Firmware Upgrade just isn't going to fix battery drain UNLESS
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there is a major bug that keeps a unit*component on the board* running, or IE using max power for the radio due to a signal strength glitch, or something that keeps the CPU on all the time instead of sleeping..... Things like these are fixable in an update.
If they can find power draining bugs/glitches then yes a firmware upgrade would help
Other wise IT is rare that they can just optimize over and over and over again. There are only so many fixable power draining issues that are caused by code that an be fixed.
This is something That I have learned while working on my BS of CE. Now Industry techs who pioneered this tech would be able to give a better answer
Also they have to make CPU profiles that fit everyones needs. When people install Power saving Profiles they get better battery life at risk of CPU strength. This is just nature and a way that modern can personalize their devices.
Also Android is still a battery hog :/ and the fact plenty of places have crappy signal suck to.
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I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ONE FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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I have not experienced any type of battery drain on the phone. However the M9 seems to suck battery when running apps that require the screen to be on, or use a lot of resources to run. I do not see this as a problem with the phone, it is a problem with battery technology not keeping up with phone technology. Or to even elaborate more, there are much better and longer lasting batteries that could be used in phones, we just wont accept paying $2,000 for that technology. If you think this phone is bad you should try out the s6. You can drain the s6 battery in about 25 min with the screen on if you are lucky. I guess that is the cost of a better screen.
I disagree. I would bet it's this horrible os called lollipoop. Or the crappy kernel. But its debatable, I think the battery technology is actually pretty good.
What are you doing when you notice the battery draining?
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I'm still getting such bad battery life that if this firmware doesn't make it better I'm going to TMO and having them buy out my edge program. So COME ONE FIRMWARE. I'm not optimistic.
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Since you are s-off did you upgrade to the 5.1 firmware/os yet?
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