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I think that samsung should pull out all the stops on ICS and let it loose to as many new devices that can support it as possible. Apple will give there phone the latest updates as long as the hard ware can handle it. Sammy in particular should give ICS quickly to compete with iPhones new iOs. Also to make up for the forever long wait we had to get this device. Ya they take forever but they must know its a problem and one would think there guys in samsung's "think tank" would let the company know where its lacking. Samsung's goal after all is to sell tons of phones and keep the customer happy as a fat kid at a ice cream truck ( yes there is a little pun in the ice cream comment )

xD ... Sad to say it... But the words samsung and update shouldn't be used together... Were already overdue on that LOS patch, original epic users are still on froyo as will...
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ALL_D4Y_YES_SIR said:
xD ... Sad to say it... But the words samsung and update shouldn't be used together... Were already overdue on that LOS patch, original epic users are still on froyo as will...
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Epic got GingerBread like 5 days ago, LOL.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed/

I put my phone under my pillow at night so the tooth fairy will bring ICS to me there is a tooth fairy right?!

cordell12 said:
Epic got GingerBread like 5 days ago, LOL.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/1...update-rolling-out-can-be-manually-installed/
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...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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no it does not

we are all hoping that Samsung tries to stick it to apple and dominate the US market similar to Nokia in the international market. I am as I think we all are that Samsung realizes that establishing support for top tier devices at minimum for 12th Months is what it is going to take. Now I say that we HOPE that they realize that, not saying they will. If that is the case, hopefully the community is strong enough to carry them otherwise for me its one and done on samsung.
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...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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bluefire808 said:
no it does not
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isn't samsung now one of the google partners for timely updates? a bunch of manufacturers I think signed a deal with them saying they would release updates within 18 months of google releasing it(HTC, LG and others were also included). But once they release it, then the carriers usually take their sweet ass time pushing it out to us. from what I hear they gave sprint the los fix a while ago. It's sprint that's holding it up now

I believe they are on paper but I also believe that status has no bite to enforce it
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isn't samsung now one of the google partners for timely updates? a bunch of manufacturers I think signed a deal with them saying they would release updates within 18 months of google releasing it(HTC, LG and others were also included). But once they release it, then the carriers usually take their sweet ass time pushing it out to us. from what I hear they gave sprint the los fix a while ago. It's sprint that's holding it up now
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LordLugard said:
...after more than a whole year after release? Doesn't inspire confidence in their track record now, does it..
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Blame the keyboard, it messed everything up.
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Well at least Sammy isn't putting out updates like HTC. Every time I read about an update from HTC recently is says they are pulling it because of issues. Would rather an update be truly tested then just thrown at us with more problems then we started with.
Didn't the HTC Thunderbolt just get Gingerbread a year after it was released? The grass is not always greener on the other side.....

One thing that I don't see mentioned often is the fact the mobile phones are only a small part of Samsungs overall business; tv's, bd players, appliances, industrial equipment and more, are some of the things this gigantic company is involved with...Not defending their slow updating schedules and such, but, keep in mind that a company this big doesn't always focus the amount of attention on every division that they probably should.
I knew this coming into this phone, so, I am not really surprised in how long it has taken them to get updates out in the past, and, I doubt it will get much better moving forward, so don't expect them to be "first to market" when it comes to the latest and greatest software for this phone..

How about a los update?
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bondosho said:
Blame the keyboard, it messed everything up.
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I keep reading that but I don't fully understand. What's it have to do with the updates?
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Bigjim1488 said:
How about a los update?
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who knows...In their minds, its probably not that big of a problem, and, they probably figure they are working at a proper pace for getting the issue addressed for the "small percentage" of people who have the issue...
I'm sure they are not sitting around in their board room worrying about LOS...
Here again, not defending them, just saying'...

[Q] Are we, for sure, getting cm9?

I keep hearing we are, but I see no proof. Anything?

I am a total noob on here as well and I am not trying to be an ass when I say the following: Do a search!!
It is coming but from everything I have read on here from doing my own research, graphics drivers are a huge problem along with some other issues and CM9 will probably not see the light of day on the SGH-T989 until after Samsung releases their ICS build.
Also, it is never a good idea to ask for an ETA from any developer. From what I have heard from other people that especially holds true for Cyanogen.

I'm not asking for a ETA, I just want to know it's coming.

tycosnh said:
I keep hearing we are, but I see no proof. Anything?
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I can tell you that my TMO inside man told me that a internal doc was posted in the extranet that said the SGSII was getting ICS, but no date was included. With that said, when ICS is released on our phone we should see CM9 released within the month after that. Thats my guess.

Ah. People were making it out to be that it was coming out this month. Dreams crushed. D;

Thats what I thought too, but its going to be while. But well worth the wait im sure

tycosnh said:
Ah. People were making it out to be that it was coming out this month. Dreams crushed. D;
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It was stated that Samsungs goal was first quarter of 2012, I'd take that very loosely though.
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I can't wait for ICS! My friend has the GNexus and its a nice phone however I like the physical appearance of the GS2 better!
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Seeing how well Samsung's promises of software upgrades go (on the Behold and Vibrant) I do not count on ICS being available for them at any time in the near future and definitely not in Q1. I'm sure we'll see CM9 released before seeing an official version from Samsung. At this point, between Dewizzed and CM7 I am very happy with the device and can wait (or at least try to!!).

Samsung TMO GSII Source Released

Within 12 hours of the official ICS rom release. This bodes well for us that once OTA comes source won't be far behind.

Man, I don't quite get it, we've been getting leaks like crazy. How does a non standard Galaxy s2 version (the one without exynos) become the first to officially get ICS in America? Wtf Sprint and AT&T...

Downloading now to see if I can peek at the eMMC fix...

beserker15 said:
Man, I don't quite get it, we've been getting leaks like crazy. How does a non standard Galaxy s2 version (the one without exynos) become the first to officially get ICS in America? Wtf Sprint and AT&T...
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You answered it. There are other phones out there with the same chip in it that have ICS already, so it was easy for Sammy to use those references and drivers. On our phone Sammy had to go back to the drawing board because the Combo CDMA/Wimax is a difficult beast to get straight. Tweaks in kernel, rom and radio all need to work nicely and on our phone it is a bit of a pain. It'll come soon enough and in pretty good shape as well.
Also we are getting 4.0.4 and T-mobile only has 4.0.3 so our 4.0.3 could have been released awhile ago, but they pushed on. But the chipset and 4.0.3 helped out a bunch.

We want quality not quantity. So patience will be virtue
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I personally like and actually value the fact that we have NOT got the official ICS update yet. With all of the leaks being distributed its a very clear indicator that sprint/samsung still have on going development. And are really trying to refine and polish our this update before just handing it over to us. Also keep in mind that our epic touch is not the new kid on the block anymore and could quite possibly becoming to EOL soon. I mean they did get rid of the EVO 3d pretty quick and tghe epic came out shortly after that. This could very well be our last update we will ever see for our phone. So lets make it count! Lets embrace the leaks we are getting to show us what is yet to come. And lets keep a focus on a main point here and that there is active development by the manufacterer/sprint for our device and its currently on going....

What?!? ONLY 43%?!?
I hope I get to peek at this before going home, for certain that I won't after.

beserker15 said:
Man, I don't quite get it, we've been getting leaks like crazy. How does a non standard Galaxy s2 version (the one without exynos) become the first to officially get ICS in America? Wtf Sprint and AT&T...
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GSM. Only reason.

ICS is smooth on my gf's T-Mobile GS2 even though she has at&t lol
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reddragon72 said:
You answered it. There are other phones out there with the same chip in it that have ICS already, so it was easy for Sammy to use those references and drivers. On our phone Sammy had to go back to the drawing board because the Combo CDMA/Wimax is a difficult beast to get straight. Tweaks in kernel, rom and radio all need to work nicely and on our phone it is a bit of a pain. It'll come soon enough and in pretty good shape as well.
Also we are getting 4.0.4 and T-mobile only has 4.0.3 so our 4.0.3 could have been released awhile ago, but they pushed on. But the chipset and 4.0.3 helped out a bunch.
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^^ what he (she?) said. For the t-mobile version they just had to tweak the international version a bit in terms of chipset and some other minor changes. The epic touch is really a distant cousin of the gs2 family due to the gsm/wimax/notification light etc... Also sprint want's it's apps to work with it as well so that could be part of the issue.
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locoboi187 said:
ICS is smooth on my gf's T-Mobile GS2 even though she has at&t lol
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unlocking for the win

morphis568 said:
^^ what he (she?) said. For the t-mobile version they just had to tweak the international version a bit in terms of chipset and some other minor changes. The epic touch is really a distant cousin of the gs2 family due to the gsm/wimax/notification light etc... Also sprint want's it's apps to work with it as well so that could be part of the issue.
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Actually, when comparing the family tree to the international version, AT&T's version comes closest, ours is next, and T-Mobile is the furthest away due to having a different cpu/gpu as well as a different modem (the 42mps HSPDA+ modem versus 21mbs on the international). Yet amazingly T-mobile's got there's out first lol.
While it's true that CDMA/Wimax typically creates the biggest delays, from the roms leaked since months ago, all of the bugs that still exists seems completely unrelated to the modem (sound bug, exchange server, etc). Since there still are bugs, I'm glad they're being worked on, but I am curious if these bugs are present in the other Galaxy S2 phones and if not, what could be causing it.

[Q] Samsung Epic 4g Touch

:good:Has anyone Heard that maybe sprint gave up on ics for our phone and now are going to go with jellybean maybe that is why we are still at ff18 ?
i believe the same thing happened with my sprint hero

I personally doubt it. You wouldn't work on something like this for 4 months (Feb-June) and just give up because something new is out. And the said they would deliver so it has to happen I believe.
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Not a chance I could hell!!!
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SouthPhilly said:
Not a chance I could hell!!!
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your name caught my eye i live in manayunk. i've never seen another epic 4g touch owner in my city, much less anyone active on xda.
anyways back to OP - i doubt it bro. ff18 is probably final and they are just holding it back so they can sell more siii's

Had any stopped to think that maybe ics is a risk because some things it implements infringe on apple "innovative" patents?
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It's more like I'v given up on Sprint.........

It's just a rumor for now... however, I doubt that FF18 is the final build since the brick bug is still very much alive. Maybe Samsung figured since 4.1 is such an incremental upgrade, they might as well use it. But that may piss off a lot of flash users.
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SouthPhilly said:
Not a chance I could hell!!!
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husker apollo said:
your name caught my eye i live in manayunk. i've never seen another epic 4g touch owner in my city, much less anyone active on xda.
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another south philly xda user here! great day for grilling meat on my back slab, drinking cold beer and laying about in 90+ degree weather in my boxers all day.
4.0.3 ~> 4.0.4 was a truly incremental notch up, so it made sense.
i get the feeling 4.1 is a bit more of a deeper fundamental set of changes...?
if it was going to be implemented, it'll be given to a smaller team to do as a low priority, i would guess, no hurry.

gilbydakid said:
Had any stopped to think that maybe ics is a risk because some things it implements infringe on apple "innovative" patents?
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You my friend are a giniuous this could be a reason and a realistic reason why samsung would skip ics... since apple is focusing on samsung and ics.. and from what i have been reeding from engadget gizmodo ect the work around the ban of nexus is jb.. so lets keep or fingers crosed y not

husker apollo said:
your name caught my eye i live in manayunk. i've never seen another epic 4g touch owner in my city, much less anyone active on xda.
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Hey neighbor... I see all kinds of GS2's around town, just most don't look like the adventurous types. We're a small breed my freind..
kingdazy said:
another south philly xda user here! great day for grilling meat on my back slab, drinking cold beer and laying about in 90+ degree weather in my boxers all day.
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Where's my invite brother!!!!
kingdazy said:
4.0.3 ~> 4.0.4 was a truly incremental notch up, so it made sense.
i get the feeling 4.1 is a bit more of a deeper fundamental set of changes...?
if it was going to be implemented, it'll be given to a smaller team to do as a low priority, i would guess, no hurry.
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I agree that 4.1 is a bit more than an incremental upgrade from 4.0.x. Jelly Bean is capable of doing so much more than ICS, and not just in looks. There are some manger changes under the hood to make it run the way it does.
One of my neighbors has a Gnex and we flashed 4.1 to it the other day... Wow is all I can say!!!!
As much as I and most of us would want our ET4G's updated to 4.1... It'll be months till Sprint would get around to even looking at the update, let alone start working on it. I mean how long have they been working on the ICS update???
Just saying.....
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Samsung 4.1 Update List

Hey Just passing this along. Idk if our phone will get the update but since the galaxy sII is on the list there is a good chance.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ill-get-Android-4.1-Jelly-Bean-update_id34807

Remember we are on sprint. We are always some of the last devices to be updated, if ever. Great phone- bad support from samsung and sprint.

woody296 said:
Remember we are on sprint. We are always some of the last devices to be updated, if ever. Great phone- bad support from samsung and sprint.
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yeah when I read it I was excited. but knew it was going to take time for ours like usual. o well

mad5870 said:
yeah when I read it I was excited. but knew it was going to take time for ours like usual. o well
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Yes the official release may take some time, if ever, to get to us. But we might just some leaked builds along the way that would be more than useful.
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mad5870 said:
Hey Just passing this along. Idk if our phone will get the update but since the galaxy sII is on the list there is a good chance.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...ill-get-Android-4.1-Jelly-Bean-update_id34807
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I just woke up and came here to post this, thanks! lol
I really hope we get some JellyBean goodness, if not, sprint can go shove it!

We will get official Jelly Bean. It's not happening right away, but it will happen.
Our phone is CDMA which is one major reason that we won't see an update as quickly as the international SGS2…
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If its anything like the moment or epic, it will be when the phone is at its end of life and no longer sold in the stores. Oh, and it will probably be the last official youll see.

I don't expect to see a jelly bean update for this phone. I would genuinely be surprised if it sees official jb.
Although they said the sgsII that doesn't mean the epic 4g touch variant. More stuff to support and more stuff to go wrong that becomes sprints problem. Also, people would see how capable this exynos really is and not go get an sgs3, with the only differences being the screen and a 4g chip you're never gonna use anyway, because sprint wants the world to buy iphones. I'm getting off this sinking ship and switching to verizon asap.

TheSilverStig said:
I don't expect to see a jelly bean update for this phone. I would genuinely be surprised if it sees official jb.
Although they said the sgsII that doesn't mean the epic 4g touch variant. More stuff to support and more stuff to go wrong that becomes sprints problem. Also, people would see how capable this exynos really is and not go get an sgs3, with the only differences being the screen and a 4g chip you're never gonna use anyway, because sprint wants the world to buy iphones. I'm getting off this sinking ship and switching to verizon asap.
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The epic branding has been retired, its now the sph-d710 galaxy s2, Samsung has promised support for a minimum of 18months after release on all devices starting with the gs2 series so we will more than likely get official JB, and it won't take as long as ICS since the upgrade from ICS to JB isn't as intensive as from GB to ICS was. Samsung has sworn off carrier branded devices and starting with the sgs3 all devices will be nearly identical except for the few differences for network compatibility. Mostly radios and modems, otherwise hardware and software will now be as close to exactly the same as the original international variant and all devices will be available on all carriers as close to the same release date as possible.
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The epic branding has been retired, its now the sph-d710 galaxy s2, Samsung has promised support for a minimum of 18months after release on all devices starting with the gs2 series so we will more than likely get official JB, and it won't take as long as ICS since the upgrade from ICS to JB isn't as intensive as from GB to ICS was. Samsung has sworn off carrier branded devices and starting with the sgs3 all devices will be nearly identical except for the few differences for network compatibility. Mostly radios and modems, otherwise hardware and software will now be as close to exactly the same as the original international variant and all devices will be available on all carriers as close to the same release date as possible.
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Wow if what you say is true I will probably stick with the samsungs galaxy line for my next phone, because I was thinking about going right for the next nexus no matter who it was who made it.

They can't even get ICS right, I doubt we get JB.

Mship said:
Wow if what you say is true I will probably stick with the samsungs galaxy line for my next phone, because I was thinking about going right for the next nexus no matter who it was who made it.
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I'm trying to decide between the note 2 and the new nexus for my personal line, whichever I don't get for it ill be adding on my work line, ill prob be getting the sgs3 on my personal line and putting the et4g on my work line when the note 2 launches until my upgrade comes up in the beginning of Dec. My dads got the sgs3 and will be preordering the note 2 so ill get the sgs3 once his note comes in. That's one good thing about having a technophile for a dad he buys a new phone off contract everytime it drops and gives me his old one so i don't have to use up upgrades too often unless I want a nexus or something he hasn't bought yet. He's been sticking with Samsung since the et4g launched, which I'm fine with I got sick of dealing with HTC and their locked up bootloaders after the GB update on the og evo and after the moto photon I won't ever buy another moto device that thing sucked to try and mod, I can't go with a device that you have to sacrifice something to be able to flash
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Idk if im late but we getting JB
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/24/samsung-rolling-jelly-bean-toward-most-of-its-smartphone-tablet/

I wonder if we will get an updated TW. I think thats where a lot of problems are coming from.
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Why are people saying that we won't have Jelly Bean? Samsung stated that they would support this phone for up to 18 months! Believe it or not Jelly Bean might be our last official update. I don't think they will go beyond 4.1.X :0
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wcr84 said:
I wonder if we will get an updated TW. I think thats where a lot of problems are coming from.
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A plain android release would be much better.

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A plain android release would be much better.
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lol i hear that but id be happy if samsung leave they task killer tho i love it

They won't do a pure Android release of Jelly Bean I don't think because it would be too much of a change for regular people, even though most of us would love it. We will probably be able to get it through sprint id though. I wish they would change the colors in tw to stock Android blue though, so much better then green and white.
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Hey Just passing this along. Idk if our phone will get the update but since the galaxy sII is on the list there is a good chance.
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Yes....but i believe that when & if that day comes, theres gonna be a butt-load of sg2 users scrambling to get back to stock in a hurry. Ironic, cause the first update is pretty much what helped to cause the mad flash frenzy in the first place,(that & growing old waiting)
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