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Samsung Galaxy S II gets Android 2.3.6 update

I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/

Go figure....
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Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!

[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
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Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.

Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.

so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?

ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah

i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
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ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!

Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
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[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!

It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.

Dchibro said:
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.

People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.

looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!

expertzero1 said:
looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.

We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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Isc on the way!

I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.

Pictures or it didn't happen. Just kidding. That's great news. Happen to remember the build number. Just wondering because the first update might not contain face recognition.
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Was there like a date he had in mind? Like early next year or late this month?
EDIT: I think its suppose to be ICS by the way man.
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deadmanmalu13 said:
I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.
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http://markbiwwa.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/bull****.jpg

pics or it didnt happen. trust me, if it was coming, engadget and other sites would have been all over it because the et4g is still one of the co-kings of android along with the new nexus

^
Plus you have the wrong ICS! So a troll pointing out a troll.

Looks like there is some truth to this based on some google searching for the past 24 hours:
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns

Dude hasn't posted anything in almost 2 years, he is either a troll who owns an iphone now...
OR
HE IZ RITE AND ICS IS ALMOST HER!1!!!!!!1

FYI
From the Samsung Mobile Twitter Feed

More: http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-to-get-the-ICS-4-0-1-Update-during-Jan-2012

I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?

Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.

btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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odub303 said:
Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.
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Exactlt. Just cause the international version might get it in january doesnt mean we will. I dont believe the ops story. Take a pic of his phone's about phone info.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

bbedward said:
The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?

kingsway8605 said:
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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Isn't the latest OTA dealing with the LOS and some other issues? I'd assume they can't really wait until the ICS and leave customers hanging that much longer with all the backlash.

im just letting you guys know... i know i haven't posted anything in a long time but i read and go through these forums almost everyday.. i just don't post things but usually other people post what i have to say.... so take it for what its worth, i personally don't really care if you guys think im lying its all good.

kingsway8605 said:
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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This update date may be the one that allows the device to be updated to ICS. Im sure one of the Delvs will dig into the files to see the differences(other than CIQ)

btate0121 said:
pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?
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the screen doesn't matter they are the exact same screen just different sizes. Processor, CPU, gpu, wifi/bt chip, dac are all identical.
The LED is as simple as a kernel that supports it and a rom that uses it.
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Why is there no ICS ROM for epic touch?

Google opened the source. I believe Samsung did as well. There's a ROM for international s2 working with TW is there something i'm missing? Also, why is google allowing TW on ICS I thought the purpose of ICS was to eliminate having to wait for manufacturer/carrier updates and consolidate phones and tablets to the one OS to maintain and innovate.
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The Google's Android Alliance is dead. I believe that since manufacturer's are already going back on their word, they're still changing things up a bit. Besides, who would get an HTC if it ran the same software as Samsung's phones? (Or vice versa). The unique feel between all of these devices are marked by their UI, otherwise the phone with the best hardware will dominate all. (although I wouldn't mind an AOSP ICS rom for ourselves.)

More money could be invested in the hardware instead of cutting corners to save money for the programming. The net result would increase the lead over iPhone users. Which gives us better hardware, immediate updates, and more software as app Sellers would favor writing for Android. Just my 2 cents.
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jamesey said:
Thx for giving your thoughts on it as I concluded the same. It's a shame since imo this is the best device on sprint at the moment and some crappy phones already have ics roms.
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yeah and all the ics roms suck right now. just because they are out does not mean they are ready. damn people sure are impatient these days.

lafester said:
yeah and all the ics roms suck right now. just because they are out does not mean they are ready. damn people sure are impatient these days.
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The Nexus builds are nice but they aren't perfect. I use it as my daily on my NS4G but the battery life isn't the greatest. The devs probably decided to just wait for the official since we are supposedly going to be one of the next phones to get it. They could do it but there would be no 4g and Google quietly pulled the OTA update temporarily due to battery life issues. The gapps tax my battery big time..especially Google+. We will get our turn. In the meantime, try one of the themes with ADW EX or Go Launcher and you can have the look
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No official build yet.(period)
I just want you all to know that there is no official build at all for this rom yet. No beta at least. Sprint doesn't have it yet either. Sprint isn't testing the rom nor has Samsung sent them the rom. So, don't expect the update in the next month.
The way is works is Samsung sends it to Sprint. Sprint test it and Samsung fixes any issues. Sprint test it again and when they find no issues it gets sent to the consumer. Sprint doesn't even have it yet to test it.
And, there are people working on making a non official build but it doesn't work great yet. It is missing a lot of key features. I am thinking we might see some usable roms at the end of the month.
Sprint is currently fixing the ICS for the Nexus S. When that is complete they will start on the Epic. You might see that update in 2 weeks. The epic should be done in 6-8 weeks(this is a early guess, I will know more in 3 weeks).

Development is horrible for the epic touch on xda because every single thread, regardless of the original post, turns into a flame war. I have been told by two devs that this is the reason they stopped developing for the epic touch on xda.
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SEARCH BEFORE POSTING! ALL of this information is available elsewhere on this forum - sorry you don't want to search before you post. Or read other threads.
And the flaming and trolling - seriously?
Closing this thread.

Official ICS release

Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.

rayprobg said:
Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.

SuperSwagSauce said:
I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol

master acehole said:
Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Sarcasm???

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Sarcasm???
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Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
Back from my "scotsman vacation"

SuperSwagSauce said:
I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.

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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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You might be right..
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-israel-says-galaxy-s-ii-ics-update-coming-mar-15

As for all things Samsung, believe it when you see it.

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As for all things SPRINT, believe it when you see it.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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FB27 is just about there. Just a couple more bugs to work out, and it's ready for release.

Bear gri11z said:
Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.

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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Preach!! I never left Froyo as my daily on my Epic. There were too many random issues on Gingerbread ...that was before I traded it in for a NS4G. I can't speak for how things are currently
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abhaxus said:
You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
Back from my "scotsman vacation"

Bear gri11z said:
Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
Back from my "scotsman vacation"
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.

abhaxus said:
Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Lol this is why I hate xda/xda app I try to summarize a point and people look at it in a way that I didnt intend.. But w.e. I didn't mean the keyboard was ths whole reason why the epic 4g got a screwy GB update... Sh%t none of the galaxy s devices had stable gps.. (stock)but the keyboard didnt help... Just like the 3d technology for the evo 3d is being blamed for late ICS update....
The point that got taken away by your love and knowledge for the ugliest (IMO) gs1 is that CARRIERS I feel are to blame for late updates... Without them we would have it sooner and many can agree.. While some can disagree and blame the manufacturer... Or hardware of the phone...
And for the whole development thing? I am simply stating the phone wasnt sought after hence not many developers... Stop reading sh%t that isnt there I never said the developers where garbage.. So relax...
And if you think a keyboard is a + then Ill leave this conversation at that... Lol
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SuperSwagSauce said:
Sarcasm???
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Bazinga....

Bear gri11z said:
Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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kingsway8605 said:
Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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I know but when I had my 3d (a month ago now my gf has it)
"they" (media/HTC) said it would be in the first wave of updates wigh the sensation/xe/vivid/rezound? Not sure if all of them where on the list but the sensation/3d variants where... Now its "later this year"
Its sad that last years company who seem to almost avoid major OS updates (Samsung) has picked up that "ball"
While HTC a well know manufacturer who pushes updates out (lagging with source) cant do as much for sprints "flagship" evo 3d (debatable)
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Bear gri11z said:
Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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superbeast0 said:
I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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The LOS issue was never really a Sprint issue per say. While many people argue that fact the fact of the matter is rooted or not rooted the phone had LOS issues out of the box. Sprint didn't really do much network wise to ge the issue fixed it was Samsung pushing out updates that started to fix the problem so I'm pretty sure this can go back to Samsung again not Sprint. Before I ever rooted my SGS2 I had it for a month on stock and while I had 2-3 LOS issues it was nothing that either moving the phone to a different place where it was sitting or just rebooting it didn't fix.
That being said once I did finally root the phone a month after I got it the first few EG30 roms I had massive LOS on each one. While we had a LOS checker and it did help at times there was just no way of getting around it. sadly flashing back to a pure stock rom always fixed the issue however. Move to EK02/EL29 (EK02 mostly) and the LOS was pretty much a done deal and it was gone again this was a Samsung update for modem and software in general which now fixed the problems so I don't see how Sprint is to blame in any of it. Sure they went about it and said they have no reported issues with the phone when there really were issues (LOS mostly which was a huge one for some people) but there was almost nothing Sprint could have done about that other then talk to Samsung and have them fix their software which is what they ended up having to do.

[Q] Samsung Epic 4g Touch

:good:Has anyone Heard that maybe sprint gave up on ics for our phone and now are going to go with jellybean maybe that is why we are still at ff18 ?
i believe the same thing happened with my sprint hero

I personally doubt it. You wouldn't work on something like this for 4 months (Feb-June) and just give up because something new is out. And the said they would deliver so it has to happen I believe.
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Not a chance I could hell!!!
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SouthPhilly said:
Not a chance I could hell!!!
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your name caught my eye i live in manayunk. i've never seen another epic 4g touch owner in my city, much less anyone active on xda.
anyways back to OP - i doubt it bro. ff18 is probably final and they are just holding it back so they can sell more siii's

Had any stopped to think that maybe ics is a risk because some things it implements infringe on apple "innovative" patents?
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It's more like I'v given up on Sprint.........

It's just a rumor for now... however, I doubt that FF18 is the final build since the brick bug is still very much alive. Maybe Samsung figured since 4.1 is such an incremental upgrade, they might as well use it. But that may piss off a lot of flash users.
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SouthPhilly said:
Not a chance I could hell!!!
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husker apollo said:
your name caught my eye i live in manayunk. i've never seen another epic 4g touch owner in my city, much less anyone active on xda.
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another south philly xda user here! great day for grilling meat on my back slab, drinking cold beer and laying about in 90+ degree weather in my boxers all day.
4.0.3 ~> 4.0.4 was a truly incremental notch up, so it made sense.
i get the feeling 4.1 is a bit more of a deeper fundamental set of changes...?
if it was going to be implemented, it'll be given to a smaller team to do as a low priority, i would guess, no hurry.

gilbydakid said:
Had any stopped to think that maybe ics is a risk because some things it implements infringe on apple "innovative" patents?
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You my friend are a giniuous this could be a reason and a realistic reason why samsung would skip ics... since apple is focusing on samsung and ics.. and from what i have been reeding from engadget gizmodo ect the work around the ban of nexus is jb.. so lets keep or fingers crosed y not

husker apollo said:
your name caught my eye i live in manayunk. i've never seen another epic 4g touch owner in my city, much less anyone active on xda.
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Hey neighbor... I see all kinds of GS2's around town, just most don't look like the adventurous types. We're a small breed my freind..
kingdazy said:
another south philly xda user here! great day for grilling meat on my back slab, drinking cold beer and laying about in 90+ degree weather in my boxers all day.
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Where's my invite brother!!!!
kingdazy said:
4.0.3 ~> 4.0.4 was a truly incremental notch up, so it made sense.
i get the feeling 4.1 is a bit more of a deeper fundamental set of changes...?
if it was going to be implemented, it'll be given to a smaller team to do as a low priority, i would guess, no hurry.
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I agree that 4.1 is a bit more than an incremental upgrade from 4.0.x. Jelly Bean is capable of doing so much more than ICS, and not just in looks. There are some manger changes under the hood to make it run the way it does.
One of my neighbors has a Gnex and we flashed 4.1 to it the other day... Wow is all I can say!!!!
As much as I and most of us would want our ET4G's updated to 4.1... It'll be months till Sprint would get around to even looking at the update, let alone start working on it. I mean how long have they been working on the ICS update???
Just saying.....
Happy 4th of July XDA!!!
Edit: Hey you Philly guys... If your going to the show and fireworks tonight on the Parkway PM me, we'll exchange info and try and meet up... Photo op!!!!!
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