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[q] understanding android ports?

Hey Guys:
Just trying to understand the app porting better.
Alot of great mods had been created from port of different apk's from other Android devices. I know there is a big difference between ROM that have Sense and no-sense ROMS. Yesterday I tried out the Droid X Messaging App referenced here. It work really well, but I had to uninstall it because of the Force Closing. I think the reason it doesn't work is because the Droid X does not have HTC Sense and its manufactured by Moto, so the app maybe coded differently.
But HTC has a few phones now running Android 2.3. So it would seem even though phones like the Nexus One (Which doesn't have Sense) should be almost coded along the same lines as a HTC phone running Sense, right? Yet alot of the apps don't run very well on Sense based ROMS. Now I know most people hate Sense, but I think its a useful app. I use Sense while I'm work and Launcher Pro on the weekends and evenings (yeah I know it sounds crazy. I know). But I really want to add a few ported 2.3 apps like messaging, etc.
Currently running SprintLovers Rom cause its the closet to stock. But I would like to mod it a bit.
So what I'm wondering is how come there aren't more ported apps available for Sense based Roms?

shaun0207 said:
Hey Guys:
Just trying to understand the app porting better.
Alot of great mods had been created from port of different apk's from other Android devices. I know there is a big difference between ROM that have Sense and no-sense ROMS. Yesterday I tried out the Droid X Messaging App referenced here. It work really well, but I had to uninstall it because of the Force Closing. I think the reason it doesn't work is because the Droid X does not have HTC Sense and its manufactured by Moto, so the app maybe coded differently.
But HTC has a few phones now running Android 2.3. So it would seem even though phones like the Nexus One (Which doesn't have Sense) should be almost coded along the same lines as a HTC phone running Sense, right? Yet alot of the apps don't run very well on Sense based ROMS. Now I know most people hate Sense, but I think its a useful app. I use Sense while I'm work and Launcher Pro on the weekends and evenings (yeah I know it sounds crazy. I know). But I really want to add a few ported 2.3 apps like messaging, etc.
Currently running SprintLovers Rom cause its the closet to stock. But I would like to mod it a bit.
So what I'm wondering is how come there aren't more ported apps available for Sense based Roms?
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I could be wrong, but I think it's because of how much the framework differs. I've never tried the messaging app that you referenced, but is it all black? If you're looking for a messaging app that is all blacked out, with white font, the here is a modded one. It is the stock htc messaging app, but themed black, made by JsChirf.

k2buckley said:
I could be wrong, but I think it's because of how much the framework differs. I've never tried the messaging app that you referenced, but is it all black? If you're looking for a messaging app that is all blacked out, with white font, the here is a modded one. It is the stock htc messaging app, but themed black, made by JsChirf.
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Thanks, i was thinking of trying that out. Wasnt sure if it worked or not. I loved the way the pics came on the Droid X mms app.

shaun0207 said:
Thanks, i was thinking of trying that out. Wasnt sure if it worked or not. I loved the way the pics came on the Droid X mms app.
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No problem man. I have had no issues with that app at all, and have been using it for a good while now. MMS works fine with it, but it's the same as the stock app. I've never seen how they come through with the Droid x app.

HTC Keyboard for ICS with "Arrows"??

Hi,
I own a HTC Sensation XE and I use the ARHD v6.51 ROM with ICS v4.0.3. Before this device I have used a HTC Desire HD with Gingerbread v2.35. The HTC Keyboard with Gingerbread contained Arrow-Keys below the spacebar - the new ICS Keyboard does not have this four keys.
Is there any chance to get the old Gingerbread-Keyboard to work? Most important is that I want to use the HTC Keyboard, no other solution.
Thanks!

Dreamweaver said:
Hi,
I own a HTC Sensation XE and I use the ARHD v6.51 ROM with ICS v4.0.3. Before this device I have used a HTC Desire HD with Gingerbread v2.35. The HTC Keyboard with Gingerbread contained Arrow-Keys below the spacebar - the new ICS Keyboard does not have this four keys.
Is there any chance to get the old Gingerbread-Keyboard to work? Most important is that I want to use the HTC Keyboard, no other solution.
Thanks!
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Unlikely that it will work. I haven't see any like that for ICS.

The HTC IME mod will work in ICS (tested this) but it has no arrow keys.
Smart Keyboard Pro on the Market has arrow keys and is functionally identical to the HTC keyboard, with more capabilities.

is this enough for you?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22015930&postcount=2

Thanks for the link. Will check it out soon (when there will be an open Download-Slot ).
The most important thing is that I can import my personal dictionary to the keyboard because it saves so much time - and my whole dictionary was created on 3-4 different HTC Keyboards over the past few months.

I checked out the Keyboard. Many thanks. Its exactly what I need

heres a screenshot of my new keyboard....

My HTC sensation keyboard
Here is a sample snapshot of my keyboard with arrows including font changes !!!!

WTF! Comic Sans MS???

Nope its not comic sans, its a font called ChinaCat.
Not only the keyboard, this font is applied everywhere on the phone.

sufyansayed said:
Here is a sample snapshot of my keyboard with arrows including font changes !!!!
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niiiiice
would you share this keyboard,it's just the feel i was looking for

Snake_skw said:
niiiiice
would you share this keyboard,it's just the feel i was looking for
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Hi, thanks....its an app called "Thumb keyboard" , downloaded from google play, and for the fonts, you can use an app called "Font changer", that too from play store.
You need to be rooted to apply them.
Cheers.!!

[Q] Questions regarding software update& keyboard

I'm a new owner of an HTC One X and I really like the new device but have a couple of questions.
I have an unlocked HTC One X (I think its an Asian version) using it on ATT
Software update: currently im on version 1.26.708.2 and ive read that there is a new version put out. Ive tried doing the software update on my device but it tells me there is no new update. Do I need to connect the phone to my PC and update that way?
Keyboard: I hate the arrow keys at the bottom of the screen during messaging and emails. Ive tired editing the keyboard but I cant find the option to remove the arrows...
Sorry if these are noob questions but im Noob to android and a super noob to HTC Sense.

Try 3rd program keyboard like smart keyboard pro or Swiftkey X

yea I was gonna do that next, I kinda like the ICS keyboard but just didnt like the arrows...
Any information on my software version? Is there something I missing to download the latest software?

HTC app on sense 8...where are they?

Hi there!
As far as U have seen, HTC 10 is a hyge hardware device but it comes with only standard Google apps pre-installed. So HTC Sense interface is basically disappeared from the phone.
Considering how much better HTC apps are compared to Google standard apps, it's a huge shame having such a great phone on hardware level running on standard google base system. People have always had hate for custom interface but they don't know what are they saying if they consider everything as a third-party apps, the evil. There are 2 different situations, one thing is customisation of network operator which install useless and buggy application, another thing is manufacturer applications, which in the case of HTC, have always been better than the standard Google applications since the beginning of android. So having no HTC apps on the sense 8 is a great loss. My question is: it will still possible to install all HTC apps on the play store of sense interface on the new sense 8?
By the way I have an HTC One M9+ Supreme Camera and I'm currenlty on sense 7 and android 5, well if sense 8 will be with google standard apps only, I hope that the update to Android 6.0 for my device will keep sense 7.0 interface. I want to use HTC apps.

I think this is a welcomed change. Simpler, faster updates, faster phone... But I do think I saw somewhere that you could install the applications from the play store. Worst case just port them over, there are so many mods that allows you to port to other phones I bet it would be easy to move it over to the 10.

joshuadjohnson22 said:
I think this is a welcomed change. Simpler, faster updates, faster phone... But I do think I saw somewhere that you could install the applications from the play store. Worst case just port them over, there are so many mods that allows you to port to other phones I bet it would be easy to move it over to the 10.
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I think that if you go looking to the quality of HTC apps compared to standard google apps, there is no match. If someone want a standard and free Android interface, then buy a nexus phone which is excellent. If I buy an HTC, I want a customized Android experience, at least this is my opinion. Having to struggle with MOD it's second hand option and also if HTC won't develop its apps in the future it would be impossible to do.
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light_n_roses said:
I think that if you go looking to the quality of HTC apps compared to standard google apps, there is no match. If someone want a standard and free Android interface, then buy a nexus phone which is excellent. If I buy an HTC, I want a customized Android experience, at least this is my opinion. Having to struggle with MOD it's second hand option and also if HTC won't develop its apps in the future it would be impossible to do.
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That's your opinion, I see very little to no difference. If this is a deal breaker for you, protest... and buy from LG or samsung. I find the google versions are more than adequate for all I need. I love that more manufacturers are going to this style, faster updates and a more streamline approach. They can add their best features to the device and keep it fast. Give it time before you protest them, you may like the change. If not you have 14 days

Well, on HTC One M8 running HTC 10 ported ROM I could easily download all the missing HTC apps from the Play Store. So, no actual difference from Sense 7 roms.
Maybe on the real HTC 10 your experience will be different.

you know if you have the apks of the older apps you can still install them right?

domineus said:
you know if you have the apks of the older apps you can still install them right?
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I suppose that it depends...if the apps has been ported to the current version of Android... and this is something that HTC have to do.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
That's your opinion, I see very little to no difference. If this is a deal breaker for you, protest... and buy from LG or samsung. I find the google versions are more than adequate for all I need. I love that more manufacturers are going to this style, faster updates and a more streamline approach. They can add their best features to the device and keep it fast. Give it time before you protest them, you may like the change. If not you have 14 days
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Yes it's my opinin but I still think that if you want standard google interface you can buy a Nexus or maybe HTC can realese the Google edition phone like it did in the past.
By the way I have recently swtich from an HTC One S with sense 4 to an HTC One M9+ Supreme Camera and sense 7 (also blinkfeed is nice) but I do miss some widgets from HTC (like gallery widget, bookmark widget and colored meteo widget).

light_n_roses said:
I suppose that it depends...if the apps has been ported to the current version of Android... and this is something that HTC have to do.
Yes it's my opinin but I still think that if you want standard google interface you can buy a Nexus or maybe HTC can realese the Google edition phone like it did in the past.
By the way I have recently swtich from an HTC One S with sense 4 to an HTC One M9+ Supreme Camera and sense 7 (also blinkfeed is nice) but I do miss some widgets from HTC (like gallery widget, bookmark widget and colored meteo widget).
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It was a business decision and sadly if you hate it then you'll have to keep you M9 or buy something else. Some of us are excited about it and who knows you may grow to love it. Or maybe they will regret it and put it back in an update.

As far as some reviews said it will still be possible to download all HTC Apps from PlayStore and thus install them on the new HTC 10. In fact it is wrong that they are better than the respective Google Apps, as they are just GUI modded Google Apps.
Only App I wouldn't download is HTC Gallery App, as I read that it interferes with the new HTC Camera App, as the later one has been optimized to work with Google Pictures App.
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HTCNerdYoda said:
As far as some reviews said it will still be possible to download all HTC Apps from PlayStore and thus install them on the new HTC 10. In fact it is wrong that they are better than the respective Google Apps, as they are just GUI modded Google Apps.
Only App I wouldn't download is HTC Gallery App, as I read that it interferes with the new HTC Camera App, as the later one has been optimized to work with Google Pictures App.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Labs
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I don't understand people sometimes. This information has been a talking point of almost every general review of the new phone. It took OP longer to ask here and wait for an answer then to just Google it! Save yourself some time and Google it first.

HTCNerdYoda said:
As far as some reviews said it will still be possible to download all HTC Apps from PlayStore and thus install them on the new HTC 10. In fact it is wrong that they are better than the respective Google Apps, as they are just GUI modded Google Apps.
Only App I wouldn't download is HTC Gallery App, as I read that it interferes with the new HTC Camera App, as the later one has been optimized to work with Google Pictures App.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Labs
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Google Photos, in my opinion, is only good for photo editing. A standalone gallery is sorely missing from Android. Hell, I still use a pre-CM owned version of QuickPic instead of Google Photos.

HTC 10 Stock Android?

[I've been out of the game for a while, so pardon my ignorance.]
What's the best way to get stock Android on a 10? I'm looking to upgrade my One m8, and it's down to the Pixel or the HTC 10. I like the hardware better on the latter, but I've gotten used to my GPE ROM.
How heavy is Sense these days? Is it bearable, or is it still pungent?

edison said:
[I've been out of the game for a while, so pardon my ignorance.]
What's the best way to get stock Android on a 10? I'm looking to upgrade my One m8, and it's down to the Pixel or the HTC 10. I like the hardware better on the latter, but I've gotten used to my GPE ROM.
How heavy is Sense these days? Is it bearable, or is it still pungent?
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Sense is light and actually pretty close to stock Android now (probably the closest of all OEMs). If you don't use BlinkFeed you can just install another launcher like Nova. HTC has dumped a bunch of its own apps and have opted for Google's. For example, HTC Gallery is no more and Google Photos is default instead. You'll probably want to install a different keyboard. At least imo. I'm not a fan of TouchPal (the default keyboard now). I'm using Swiftkey, but I know a lot of users are on GBoard.

Good to know. I'm using Nova on my One m8.
I currently use Swype, although I may try some other keyboards.
From my reading, it doesn't look like there's much in the way of bloatware. I have my favored apps for most things, anyway.
Any challenges in rooting it?

edison said:
Good to know. I'm using Nova on my One m8.
I currently use Swype, although I may try some other keyboards.
From my reading, it doesn't look like there's much in the way of bloatware. I have my favored apps for most things, anyway.
Any challenges in rooting it?
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Depends on the version of the phone and OS it has on it. The Verizon version is a pain if it's on Nougat. I also wouldn't go as far as to say it's the closest to stock, Moto, Nokia, and OnePlus are all much closer to stock than HTC. By unlocking your bootloader and rooting you're already very close to having stock Android. Stick a ROM on there (PureFusionOS, AOSPExtended, LineageOS) and enjoy.

edison said:
Good to know. I'm using Nova on my One m8.
I currently use Swype, although I may try some other keyboards.
From my reading, it doesn't look like there's much in the way of bloatware. I have my favored apps for most things, anyway.
Any challenges in rooting it?
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No issues to root the 10. Pretty simple! You have options. You either go for S-off by using Sunshine ($25 ~ £19) and that gives you 100% freedom or just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP, then a custom rom or just root your stock rom. Again here you have choices. You can use MAGISK by topjohnwu or SuperSU by chainfire. (Magisk is brilliant in my opinion! ) Make sure you read the appropriate threads and follow the steps there! The 10 is still a perfect phone with lots of roms and devs!

Aaaaaaand unlocking a new Verizon variant apparently requires physically sending it to jcase.
Marvy.