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[Q] How do I eliminate sprint and HTC sense?

All,
I am interested in eliminating HTC sense and some of the Sprint bloatware from my HTC EVO 4G. Can someone please explain how to do this? Do I need to ROOT my phone, install a new ROM or BOTH? If a new ROM is required, which ROM would you recommend?
Also, in case I run into any issues, I would like to be able to restore the stock HTC EVO software (OS). Is that possible? From my understanding, this would be possible. Is that correct?
Any assistance you can offer is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Zach

Easiest way is to use launcher pro. Or any other home replacement. Other than that you will have to root and flash a senseless rom.
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Root the phone via Unrevoked. Make a Nandroid backup using your new Recovery menu, and then flash CyanogenMod 6.1 (a stock Android ROM with some added features, but no bloatware or Sense). FYI ROMs without any third-party interface are called AOSP (Android Open Source Project) ROMs. If you don't feel like rooting and you just want to get rid of the Sense interface on the homescreen, install LauncherPro.

I moved this Thread to the correct location. Apologies for placing it in the wrong topic area.

you have to realize sprint is a nation wide company and have many buildings. I'd start north east and work my way west. bring lots of ammo

acme64 said:
you have to realize sprint is a nation wide company and have many buildings. I'd start north east and work my way west. bring lots of ammo
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hahaha thats great

Aosp roms
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acme64 said:
you have to realize sprint is a nation wide company and have many buildings. I'd start north east and work my way west. bring lots of ammo
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He wants to eliminate sprint and sense for him. That is extreme.
I say switch to a g1 on t-mobile, that will solve the issues.

acme64 said:
you have to realize sprint is a nation wide company and have many buildings. I'd start north east and work my way west. bring lots of ammo
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Some funny sh*& man!
I am definitely interested in rooting my phone and installing a custom ROM. I despise sense and it goes very deep into the software of the phone.
Just looking for the best directions to follow, as I am new to the rooting world!
Any direction is most appreciated. I have been reading and through reading, growing more and more confused!
Thanks,
Zach

To remove bloatware you definitely have to root. Use unrevoked as others have mentioned. Launcher pro gives you a different home launcher, but sense is still on the phone. If you want a completely sense/sprint free experience, the Cyanogenmod is what you need. Just keep in mind 4g doesn't work on it yet. Once rooted, install ROM manager and back up your current ROM before going custom.

You can always purchase Sprint then rape it till they go bankrupt. Then with all the money you made, you can buy HTC and do the same. Heck, you can even do that to Verizon as well while you are at it.
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Read and research.....

zhweb said:
All,
I am interested in eliminating HTC sense and some of the Sprint bloatware from my HTC EVO 4G. Can someone please explain how to do this? Do I need to ROOT my phone, install a new ROM or BOTH? If a new ROM is required, which ROM would you recommend?
Also, in case I run into any issues, I would like to be able to restore the stock HTC EVO software (OS). Is that possible? From my understanding, this would be possible. Is that correct?
Any assistance you can offer is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Zach
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Don't use a "Sense-less" ROM. Most of them don't support 4G/HDMI (like Cyanogen for example). I'd suggest rooting, flashing a Sense ROM (I use Fresh 3.4.0.1), and remove HTC Sense and other Sprint bloat ware via adb. I use the MoDaCo 2.3 launcher and completely removed HTC Sense.

In all seriousness to remove the Sprint stuff, you have to root. You cannot fully remove Sense otherwise you lose 4G, and HDMI (IIRC). Now you can strip alot of the Sense UI stuff out. There are two removal scripts on XDA that you can flash that do just that. Again you have to be rooted. I took the script from OmegaSunS which I tweaked to my liking, and flash that when I flash a ROM. The Sense UI is almost gone, and a good amount of the bloatware is gone as well. Otherwise your only other choice is CyanogenMod.

If you're about to root, it has gotten very confusing lately, I see. I rooted in July when it was easy. Now there are several hardware versions of Evo floating around, and a few different versions of hoot. AND a few different versions of unrevoked.
If you're about to root on a newer phone, make sure you know your hardware version (you can find it in settings), and know your hboot version, use VOL down + power button. (Keep finger holding down volume while press and release power) that will put you in bootloader, read and remember the info on top of bootloader screen (hboot version # etc).
Good luck. I'm praying I don't break my Evo, cuz from what I've seen, it's become very complex to root. One of the versions of unrevoked will screw you, I just don't remember which one cuz it's not really my concern , and, I'd suggest use amonRA for your recovery, rather than clockwork (amonra at least tries to backup your Wimax - though there seems to be some recent speculation as to whether it does for everybody).
Not trying to instill fear, just making sure you know there's a lot of different info out there right now to look for. Good luck. it IS definitely worth it
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hey man, my suggestion to you is that if you want to keep 4g and hdmi is to install a sense rom (myns rls4 is great!) then install Launcher Pro (best home replacement in my opinion) and then a guy on here by the name of calkulin has a flashable zip to remove sense. boom all problems solved

yeah just download launcher pro from the market for free. And that should help.

Stock rom or lollipop rom?

Right now I'm running cloudy's rom (4.4.2). I have xposed and a few tweaks going on. I'm just a little bored and after playing with my husbands nexus 6 i really like lollipop. Do any of the lollipop roms have major issues? I really like the g3 apps like qslide and quick memo but i might sacrifice those for lollipop lol. What are your views about stock vs lollipop.

pitbullmommy45245 said:
Right now I'm running cloudy's rom (4.4.2). I have xposed and a few tweaks going on. I'm just a little bored and after playing with my husbands nexus 6 i really like lollipop. Do any of the lollipop roms have major issues? I really like the g3 apps like qslide and quick memo but i might sacrifice those for lollipop lol. What are your views about stock vs lollipop.
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t mobile is in testing stage of lollipop for the g3. I suggest to wait a little longer.

Honestly it depends on what you want out of it. I put it on and I got crazy download speaks compared to KK. The downside is the IR blaster, knock code, and quick circle no longer work, and in my experience unless there's a kernel leak or some dev really tries to get it to work, you just have to learn to live without some of those OEM hardware features.
Other than those three things (and the rest of the phone's bloat, although the stock launcher was pretty) I've had no major issues with 5.0.2 (tried both Illusion and AOSPAL.)
My advice is install TWRP if you haven't already and back up the phone. Copy that backup somewhere safe so you always have it just in case you format the wrong thing or delete it on accident. Then flash and try whatever you want, if you hate it download something else and flash that. If you hate that too just restore that backup and all is well. Although I'd do it late at night when you're not expecting any calls.

Scary Guy said:
Honestly it depends on what you want out of it. I put it on and I got crazy download speaks compared to KK. The downside is the IR blaster, knock code, and quick circle no longer work, and in my experience unless there's a kernel leak or some dev really tries to get it to work, you just have to learn to live without some of those OEM hardware features.
Other than those three things (and the rest of the phone's bloat, although the stock launcher was pretty) I've had no major issues with 5.0.2 (tried both Illusion and AOSPAL.)
My advice is install TWRP if you haven't already and back up the phone. Copy that backup somewhere safe so you always have it just in case you format the wrong thing or delete it on accident. Then flash and try whatever you want, if you hate it download something else and flash that. If you hate that too just restore that backup and all is well. Although I'd do it late at night when you're not expecting any calls.
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Ya that's what I was going to do. I just wanted peoples opinions lol. What lollipop ROM do you recommend. I want one that supports themes
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pitbullmommy45245 said:
Ya that's what I was going to do. I just wanted peoples opinions lol. What lollipop ROM do you recommend. I want one that supports themes
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As far as I can tell, anything CM12 based will support themes, because CM12 supports themes.
Other than that I can't tell you what to try. I'm pretty sure that the G3 will get stock L eventually unless T-Mo just forgets about it in favor of newer phones. You might like that better than CM12 for the features that would then work. Personally I don't run GAPPS and avoid anything proprietary if possible. What I want out of a ROM might not be the same as what you want.
What I'm saying is do your homework on the ROMs, read the threads in the dev section (and on other sites) and see which ROM works for you with all the features you want. That's why I said try multiple ROMs.
I'm using Illusion because I like (mostly) black UI elements because I like to use my phone at night and a black background is easier on the eyes. Other than that I have no good reason for picking that over any other LP ROM.
Anyway, good luck.

To root or not to root

I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.
Thanks.

samsat said:
I have rooted and loaded custom ROMs on many of my phones.
I don't know why but for some reason I am bit hesitant on rooting my G3.
I see now there is a quick and easy script to root even the Lollipop 5.01 OTA 850 so I am tempted to do this.
My question is if I don't want to load a custom ROM will the debloating and removal of carrier IQ make a noticeable difference to performance or just give a warm cuddly feeling that these are now gone?
I know there is tweakbox but it appears that besides some nice customizing that can be done there is not much on he performance side of things?
I am finding 5.01 a little laggy and it would be nice to get the phone running smoothly.
Thanks.
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Hi @samsat,
Sharing my thoughts:
1. As you have experience in rooting many of your phones, is "loading of custom ROMs" your only reason for rooting? I guess that would be the best starting point/question that you will need to ask (and answer). In my case, I go with the principle of "if you don't need it, then don't do it".
2. I want to point out though that "need" and "want" are two different things ("need" is a "must have" and "want" is a "nice-to-have"). So in your case, did you root your previous phones as a necessity? I have friends who never rooted their phones and are happy with it...some users are either not "tinkerers" (if there is such a term) or never use apps that require root.
3. Some users, on the other hand, need to root (i.e. whether they like it or not, they have to do it) because some apps do require root.
I can't comment on "carrier IQ" as I am not from the US, sorry.

Thanks for the reply.
I have no plans just yet to load a different ROM, main problem is that there appears to a camera problem with other ROMS that has not been resolved.
My main reason would be rooting in order to do things that would improve performance using the stock ROM.
I also believe in not doing this if it's not needed.

Not sure if this will help, I have rooted for a few reasons
1. Dpi to 530
2. Adaway / hosts access
3. Faster GPS
4. Titanium backup
5. Debloat
6. Greenify
Still on bumped stock with no intention of custom rom - it's liquidy enough. Customised my s3 to within an inch of its life, and couldn't be bothered.
Happy with the g3
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Those are things that having root access will allow you to do.
My question is did you notice a difference in performance (not just faster GPS) before and after you did this?
Oh and by the way I love the username! Even got it with my soutpiel Afrikaans!

+1 on Titanium Backup and Greenify

Will rooting affect the laser camera or only the installing of ROMS lose laser capability?

nismo929 said:
Will rooting affect the laser camera or only the installing of ROMS lose laser capability?
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Installing of Non-Stock ROMs loses the performance in Camera Functionality

Thanks for the answer. But I was referring to root more. Sorry..perhaps not worded correctly. Will root lose the laser?

samsat said:
Thanks for the reply.
I have no plans just yet to load a different ROM, main problem is that there appears to a camera problem with other ROMS that has not been resolved.
My main reason would be rooting in order to do things that would improve performance using the stock ROM.
I also believe in not doing this if it's not needed.
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It's not needed then. There isn't a mass amount running or affecting general performance to get rid of.
Question is, why would you not want to do it for all the other reasons posted above. IMO, it's so easy to do, you'd be daft not to.

Thanks Ryarni.
That's the reply I was looking for. At the moment, my only reason to root would be as a path to improve performance which can be a bit laggy at times.
The other reasons above are so that one can run other apps. that require root.
I have no need for those apps. right now but it's good to know root is there should I need them.
I have had a bunch of G3's go bad on me requiring replacement under warranty. I want to give the latest replacement some time to settle in before I start fiddling!

nismo929 said:
Thanks for the answer. But I was referring to root more. Sorry..perhaps not worded correctly. Will root lose the laser?
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Not if you root using an 'LG STOCK' ROM.

Stock android on HTC 10?

Hi guys!
I have had a HTC M8 for over 2 years and have loved it very much. I didn't like sense very much so I put the google play edition ROM on there so that it was just running stock android and it became my dream phone. I decided to upgrade to the HTC 10, but sense is driving me insane again (although it is much better) i do just want to go back to stock android again. There's no GPE version of this phone, is there still a way that I can go to stock android on my HTC 10?
Thanks in advance
Brad

Great question, and I wish there was an option, in some settings somewhere to just reboot into stock Android, but sadly nothing like that.
Only option is to wait for CM13 ROM's to come out this Summer to get away from Sense

There will be non-sense ROM's out soon.
Btw, if you just replace the launcher to something like Nova or whatever you like, Sense is basically not even there anymore.

Zorachus said:
Great question, and I wish there was an option, in some settings somewhere to just reboot into stock Android, but sadly nothing like that.
Only option is to wait for CM13 ROM's to come out this Summer to get away from Sense
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Thank you for your reply Glad it wasn't a stupid question.
So Cyanogen Mod is effectively just stock android? Or will there be subtle differences between that and the Google Play Edition ROM that I'm used to?

rajuabju said:
There will be non-sense ROM's out soon.
Btw, if you just replace the launcher to something like Nova or whatever you like, Sense is basically not even there anymore.
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Thanks for responding!
Yes I did install the Google Now launcher, and it has definitely helped, but there are still some little things about Sense that are driving me crazy. Little things... I just have minor OCD... I hate HTC's lockscreen clock, I don't have my location services on all the time, so the lockscreen clock gives me a "weather unavaliable" error 24/7. I don't even want weather on my lockscreen. And also it drives me crazy that I can't install Google's phone app, that is way better than HTC's. And also I can't uninstall Instagram, and Facebook etc, apps that I don't even use!
I know these things probably seem silly to most people but they're really annoying to me, hence why I want to go back to lovely stock Android! Do you know if I could achieve what I want simply by rooting my phone? Or would flashing a new ROM be the only way?

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marshedpotato said:
Thanks for responding!
Yes I did install the Google Now launcher, and it has definitely helped, but there are still some little things about Sense that are driving me crazy. Little things... I just have minor OCD... I hate HTC's lockscreen clock, I don't have my location services on all the time, so the lockscreen clock gives me a "weather unavaliable" error 24/7. I don't even want weather on my lockscreen. And also it drives me crazy that I can't install Google's phone app, that is way better than HTC's. And also I can't uninstall Instagram, and Facebook etc, apps that I don't even use!
I know these things probably seem silly to most people but they're really annoying to me, hence why I want to go back to lovely stock Android! Do you know if I could achieve what I want simply by rooting my phone? Or would flashing a new ROM be the only way?
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Try Nova, honestly it makes GPL seem silly. As for the lockscreen widget, I'm trying to get rid of that myself so let me know if you figure it out :silly:
The unwanted apps like facebook/insta have been disabled on my phone so they don't run background services and I have used nova to hide the icons. They may as well not exist on the phone but unfortunately I can't remove them completely..at least not without root, which leads to my next point...
You can achieve most of the things you want (removing system apps etc.) with root. Short of wanting additional features (even this can be done via xposed to be honest) baked into the OS or wanting a pure stock experience, you can achieve what you need with root. However, I won't go into all the details with the issues with unlocking your BL and rooting and doing S-Off etc.

wiQbold said:
Janjan has made a clean Version from stock Rom..
it is in Rom Section to find
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That's not stock Android, it's just a debloated Sense ROM.
To the OP, CyanogenMod is close to stock. Think of it as stock Android with tweaks and additional customization.

so you have an working cm Image?!
just share with tue community
I d said a "clean version of stock rom".
did not say that is gpe or aosp..
just want to help.
Sense is bloatware? okay, nice to know

marshedpotato said:
Hi guys!
I have had a HTC M8 for over 2 years and have loved it very much. I didn't like sense very much so I put the google play edition ROM on there so that it was just running stock android and it became my dream phone. I decided to upgrade to the HTC 10, but sense is driving me insane again (although it is much better) i do just want to go back to stock android again. There's no GPE version of this phone, is there still a way that I can go to stock android on my HTC 10?
Thanks in advance
Brad
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I feel the same way about the HTC sense interface.
What I did was install the Google Now launcher so that took care of part 1.
Then I side loaded the google dialer ver 2.5.11 rc8-20511
Then I side loaded the google contacts
Then I installed from the play store google Messager and Google calendar and Google Clock.
I then turn off blink feed and now the phone is 99% like stock android!
I also installed Chrooma keyboard or you can go with swift key!
Hope this helps you cause now I'm loving the phone!

kae9797:
It looks like a great option! I tried it yesterday, but I have one (yet) issue, phone is not ringing, when incoming call... I gave it all permisions I could, but no sound and no vibrations, just on display
I installed Google dialer 7.0.140861421-nonnexus from apkmirror.com.
I found this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/stock-google-dialer-ringing-loudspeaker-t3373657/page4
but there isn't any working solution as I know. Maybe something with root permisions is working?
I will try later and older versions of dialer, but I'm afraid there isn't any working, when noone here get it done...

I would suggest you to try resurrection remix ROM. I think it's the best AOSP ROM out there. Just like you, I have a minor OCD and hate the sense lockscreen, dialer and everything. Gets boring after some days.

I installed Lineage OS yesterday night, and now I'm testing it. So with open Gapps it bring me what I wanted! This ROM looks nice.
I don't think HTC sense is boring, it's just tragic...

koudy_cz89 said:
I installed Lineage OS yesterday night, and now I'm testing it. So with open Gapps it bring me what I wanted! This ROM looks nice.
I don't think HTC sense is boring, it's just tragic...
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How is lineage at the moment, many significant bugs? Since there's no stable version yet, you are using the nightly, right? Since they release one new version every week, how does the updating process work? It's like and OTA update?
Cheers

Badelhas said:
How is lineage at the moment, many significant bugs? Since there's no stable version yet, you are using the nightly, right? Since they release one new version every week, how does the updating process work? It's like and OTA update?
Cheers
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It is very stable and one of the best performing ROMs right now, although I had stutter issues few months ago. It's pretty much gone in the newer versions. I'm using this as my DD and I haven't had a single bug till now. The updating process is just like stock. There's updates tab in about where you can see the available nightly. You can download it and will be flashed automatically in the recovery. Just make sure you have the latest version of twrp installed.

Badelhas:
As you say, it's nightly, I didn't really noticed it much, because there weren't any more stable, than this nightly But I read here on the main LineageOS topic, that there aren't any major bugs, so I tried it.
There are some (important) features (rather than bugs) not running - you cannot use home button to wake up phone like on stock ROM (without fingerprint). So you have to use phone as Nexus f.e.
One night, i had about 50% battery and fell asleep, than get up before morning and discovered, that phone is very HOT and without energy! I think I read about this bug somewhere, but don't remember where. Anyway it happened only once and I installed an update from that time.
I didn't know how it goes, because immediately after first install of this ROM it offered me an update, but failed every time before download completed. So I waited some time and finally this week downloaded latest version via update notification, did backup for sure and then installed it. It switch off and then boot into TWRP and did installation, everything alone without any interaction needed.
Then booted (quiet long for the first time) and that's all.
Maybe there is something more, I will let you know, when I remember.

touchpal keyboard or google keyboard.

I just wanted an opinion from everyone on what they are using for keyboards.
I like the touch pal but for some reason I seem to look at it as cheap or freemium aware
What does everyone think or use?

I actually like TouchPal! Since it's the HTC stock keyboard, there are no ads or anything.

I came from a Moto Maxx and used the Google Keyboard on that, so I quickly installed it on my HTC 10.
I was having problems with the cursor moving around while typing. I have since disabled all gesture typing features. I prefer tapping in text to swiping in text.

Google for me
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HTC keyboard (not TouchPal).
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Google Keyboard or Aosp Keyboard and both don't have ads and the advantage is you can use layers to theme both

HTC
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Google
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Try the Sony keyboard, you will have to download the apk which is available via the App/Theme section of this forum. I use it as my daily driver...

I love themes on the HTC keyboard, but I find the Google Keyboard much smoother to use.

SwiftKey, of course.

Been using the google keyboard since I got my 10.
But it's also what I use on my Nexus 7.

I was big on Swiftkey for quite a while but I've been sporting Google's keyboard for the past for weeks, feels a bit more smooth than Swiftkey... not keen on touchpal for some reason.
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Kr0m100 said:
not keen on touchpal for some reason.
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Because it sucks? lol
If I had houseguests that put my stuff back in a different place than they found it, I'd lose my mind. That's essentially my response attempting to use HTC's keyboard.

pidzero said:
Because it sucks? lol
If I had houseguests that put my stuff back in a different place than they found it, I'd lose my mind. That's essentially my response attempting to use HTC's keyboard.
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hahahaha
yeah well you can't compare an aosp or google build with that of htc's...
as said earlier i have always been a fan of aosp keyboard not even google

SacredDeviL666 said:
hahahaha [emoji14]
yeah well you can't compare an aosp or google build with that of htc's...
as said earlier i have always been a fan of aosp keyboard not even google
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I might be wrong about this, but I thought once upon a time my Motorola used AOSP keyboard. One day Google keyboard replaced it, either by user error or sneaky practice... and I've just been using it ever since.

pidzero said:
I might be wrong about this, but I thought once upon a time my Motorola used AOSP keyboard. One day Google keyboard replaced it, either by user error or sneaky practice... and I've just been using it ever since.
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yeaps... after nexus devices its motorola which is closest to aosp stuff... google hasn't replaced aosp keyboard must have selected google keyboard for input instead of aosp when you installed
even for development after nexus its moto devices which is in good lead...
if you want an aosp keyboard here (compiled from purenexus rom for hammerhead) --> https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424944832
you can flash it from recovery

SacredDeviL666 said:
if you want an aosp keyboard here (compiled from purenexus rom for hammerhead) --> https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424944832
you can flash it from recovery
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I think the first step would be to install TWRP, then...
I've been benefitting from root and custom roms for years, but only after following instructions on achieving them on 'xyz' device. i would benefit from a better understanding of flashing, and why it doesn't necessarily mean wiping.
but that's probably a discussion for another thread.

pidzero said:
I think the first step would be to install TWRP, then...
I've been benefitting from root and custom roms for years, but only after following instructions on achieving them on 'xyz' device. i would benefit from a better understanding of flashing, and why it doesn't necessarily mean wiping.
but that's probably a discussion for another thread.
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Yes haven't flashed from stock recovery.
So u could or couldn't root HTC 10?
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SacredDeviL666 said:
Yes haven't flashed from stock recovery.
So u could or couldn't root HTC 10?
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Not sure what you're asking. <edit>nvm, I understand after rereading</edit>
Many devices past (all Motorola) rooted. Most of those saw custom ROMs. My daily driver (Verizon HTC 10) has been S-off and rooted for about a month, but still sports (read, 'suffers') from stock.