[q] understanding android ports? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey Guys:
Just trying to understand the app porting better.
Alot of great mods had been created from port of different apk's from other Android devices. I know there is a big difference between ROM that have Sense and no-sense ROMS. Yesterday I tried out the Droid X Messaging App referenced here. It work really well, but I had to uninstall it because of the Force Closing. I think the reason it doesn't work is because the Droid X does not have HTC Sense and its manufactured by Moto, so the app maybe coded differently.
But HTC has a few phones now running Android 2.3. So it would seem even though phones like the Nexus One (Which doesn't have Sense) should be almost coded along the same lines as a HTC phone running Sense, right? Yet alot of the apps don't run very well on Sense based ROMS. Now I know most people hate Sense, but I think its a useful app. I use Sense while I'm work and Launcher Pro on the weekends and evenings (yeah I know it sounds crazy. I know). But I really want to add a few ported 2.3 apps like messaging, etc.
Currently running SprintLovers Rom cause its the closet to stock. But I would like to mod it a bit.
So what I'm wondering is how come there aren't more ported apps available for Sense based Roms?

shaun0207 said:
Hey Guys:
Just trying to understand the app porting better.
Alot of great mods had been created from port of different apk's from other Android devices. I know there is a big difference between ROM that have Sense and no-sense ROMS. Yesterday I tried out the Droid X Messaging App referenced here. It work really well, but I had to uninstall it because of the Force Closing. I think the reason it doesn't work is because the Droid X does not have HTC Sense and its manufactured by Moto, so the app maybe coded differently.
But HTC has a few phones now running Android 2.3. So it would seem even though phones like the Nexus One (Which doesn't have Sense) should be almost coded along the same lines as a HTC phone running Sense, right? Yet alot of the apps don't run very well on Sense based ROMS. Now I know most people hate Sense, but I think its a useful app. I use Sense while I'm work and Launcher Pro on the weekends and evenings (yeah I know it sounds crazy. I know). But I really want to add a few ported 2.3 apps like messaging, etc.
Currently running SprintLovers Rom cause its the closet to stock. But I would like to mod it a bit.
So what I'm wondering is how come there aren't more ported apps available for Sense based Roms?
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I could be wrong, but I think it's because of how much the framework differs. I've never tried the messaging app that you referenced, but is it all black? If you're looking for a messaging app that is all blacked out, with white font, the here is a modded one. It is the stock htc messaging app, but themed black, made by JsChirf.

k2buckley said:
I could be wrong, but I think it's because of how much the framework differs. I've never tried the messaging app that you referenced, but is it all black? If you're looking for a messaging app that is all blacked out, with white font, the here is a modded one. It is the stock htc messaging app, but themed black, made by JsChirf.
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Thanks, i was thinking of trying that out. Wasnt sure if it worked or not. I loved the way the pics came on the Droid X mms app.

shaun0207 said:
Thanks, i was thinking of trying that out. Wasnt sure if it worked or not. I loved the way the pics came on the Droid X mms app.
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No problem man. I have had no issues with that app at all, and have been using it for a good while now. MMS works fine with it, but it's the same as the stock app. I've never seen how they come through with the Droid x app.

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Some stock/motorola applications on htc hero

Is there a way to get for example the normal text messaging or music apps to work on the htc hero? Or the motorola messaging app (with the facebook inbox and stuff) to work on it? i went through all the possible roms today and loved the motorola messaging app. i also loved the stock android one too. also if its possible to change the default phone app? and maybe the contacts? i love everything else about the phone. haha. i know some people will be like why did you get a hero? well i really like those apps alot and i love my hero for every other reason. i do know how to use adb and everything. i have tried removing the stock messaging app and putting the stock android one and it doesnt appear. anyone got an idea?
do you have the motorola apps? I would like to test these on Hero.
I have them and would gladly post some, but there is an .odex file to go along with it. if u want to deodexize i think tis called the file then ill gladly post them for you. i just don't fully understand how to do that. i do however have the stock android apps without the .odex in them and it still does not work on the hero after removing the defualt messaging app. anyone got an thoughts onto how to do this? it would be great to have a htc hero mixed with motoblur rom.
That would be awesome! I would atleast like the Happenings app/widget from blur. =)

HTC Sense Apps on CyanogenMod 6 - Possible?

Sorry for the NOOB question, but does anyone know if it is possible to install any of the HTC Sense apps on top of CyanogenMod 6?
I love the CyanogenMod ROM's, but there are also some things I like about HTC Sense too. In an ideal world, I'd like the following:
- CyanogenMod 6
- HTC Sense E-mail App
- HTC Sense Widgets
- AOSP Standard everywhere else... Contacts, SMS, etc.
Is this possible?
No impossible but you can find similar apps for each
Short and to the point answer is....
Nope, if you want sense, then run a sense rom. But you can use google to maybe find other applications that can mimick what you want to accomplish.
hedge34 said:
Short and to the point answer is....
Nope, if you want sense, then run a sense rom. But you can use google to maybe find other applications that can mimick what you want to accomplish.
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Yes, I'm using Fancy Widget which is one of the most important... I just wish there was something like the Sense e-mail app. The AOSP e-mail app, isn't as user friendly... I've looked online and tried K9 (no good for Exchange, which is what I'm using) and Touchdown (doesn't integrate well with the rest of the UI)
Do you know if any of the Sense Froyo ROM's are supporting multiple exchange accounts yet? I know Cyanogen's does, but it's not Sense
No. Most HTC apps require the framework from a sense based rom. And the HTC widgets only work with Sense.
For future reference, questions like this should be posted in the general or apps forums, or if you really need to post it in the development section at least ask the question in the appropriate rom's thread. Not trying to be an a$$ but thought I would throw that out there before anyone jumped all over you.
Did this really just get asked? again?
Q&A sounds like theright place to post this.
As other have already stated, try the market place for similar apps.
Cyanogen is open source so asking for sense apps is like asking for a pair shackles to go with your get out jail free card.
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And i quote from the man himself......
"THIS IS NOT HTC SENSE AND NEVER WILL BE. DO NOT ASK ABOUT IT IN THIS THREAD. THANK YOU."
if you know anything about cyanogen, which you should since you are using his rom he will never ever ever ever ever use anything but stock android thats one of the reasons that his roms are the best, plus he is the pioneer for android customization!!!
i dont believe the OP was asking for sense to be integrated into CM, just if htc widgets would still work, and if not for good replacements. Not everyone knows that they need the sense framework to function.
Some have been ported over.
Search around.
Other's generally don;'t work. Sprint apps work regardless of framework.
Yeah, I can understand where the OP's coming from. I love the CM ROMs, but there's a couple parts of Sense that I wish I could install piecemeal on top of it.
It would be ridiculous to imply that Cyanogen should ever incorporate them into his ROM since the lack of proprietary crap is his biggest attraction, but at the end of the day I still miss that stupid HTC weather widget.
scooter185 said:
i dont believe the OP was asking for sense to be integrated into CM, just if htc widgets would still work, and if not for good replacements. Not everyone knows that they need the sense framework to function.
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That's exactly right Scooter, thanks...

[Q] G2 with Desire Z ROM Camera?! CRAZY?!

Hey y'all! I am new to this ROM hacking and everything else but in the past month ive been really experienced! I got all the software, apps and everything!
I am wondering if it is possible to extract the HTC Camera software, all the apk's and lib files, and paste them on to the stock android ROM, will it work? I have done it with things like Swype files, and further software files.
So does someone out there know if its possible to put Desire Z Files on the G2 stock android to make it work? and have some D-Z features on the G2?!
Also another cool thing would be If I can use the stock android Texting app or texting software on the Desire Z ROM?
Other things that I am thinking about are:
The Dialer
Contacts
Texting UI Software
Also, To anyone that has the Desire Z ROM running on the G2, when tethering, does it only tether 3G Networks? Or is there a feature that enables 4G? Thanks!
So I've tried something similar with the clock widget, but when I tried to install, it failed and said it was missing a certificate. My guess is the same thing would happen for all of these.
Aw man, but some things might work right? what about a stock g2 lickscreen for the desire z rom? i can never get used to sliding that thing down
Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.
the orange bandit said:
Eventually, there will be hacked up ROMs with bits and pieces from every corner of the earth - I wanted the same thing on my Nexus (stock with the HTC cam) and there were a few options (though all had bugs here and there). Given the G2 was *just* permrooted, it might be a few weeks/months before you see some really creative ROMs.
Other stuff, like the lockscreen, can be changed with apps like widgetlocker and such.
You should definitely try out the Desire Z rom, though. It's all kinds of awesome, with new features that weren't there in previous versions of Sense. Hell, the camera app alone is worth it - makes the stock Android camera app look like a joke.
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Oh I know man its amazing, I installed it a few days ago and I havent even thought about stock anymore haha its pretty great and the Camera is AMAZING

[REQ] Droid X ROM?

There was talk of IncredibleDoes making a Droid X port for the DINC and EVO, not sure if that's still in the works or not. I don't have the tools or skills needed to do it myself. Anybody like to take a shot?
Err... this has a droidx theme?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758197
Also wrong forum, etc
Yeah, I saw him say that too... it's been weeks now and I haven't heard anything about it since. Maybe he has updates on his twitter. I wouldn't know though, I don't use twitter.
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I think porting the Droid X system would be VERY difficult. Porting sense to the G1 and N1 wasn't very difficult because they each had a sister phone with sense to port from (Hero and Desire respectively).
Porting the Blur framework would be a whole other beast because the Droid X, 2, etc that feature "Ninja" Blur are very different from a hardware standpoint. The framework has not only the software API stuff for Sense/Blur/TouchWiz but also a lot of the hardware support for things like cell, wifi, camera, bluetooth.
I think we would have a much better chance of people creating clones of the widgets, launcher, etc., the way that people have cloned much of the Sense interface (LP+ widgets, Beautiful Widgets/Fancy Widget Sense clock).
Systemfraud said:
Yeah, I saw him say that too... it's been weeks now and I haven't heard anything about it since. Maybe he has updates on his twitter. I wouldn't know though, I don't use twitter.
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You can read someones twitter feed without joining twitter, as long as they don't mark it as private (most don't).

[Q] Cyano-sense-mod

Hi Im A Htc Sense Rom User, I Like Sense A Lot especially the links and it lets me stays organized.The Problem Is My Internal Memory Is Small (1.1 gb)
I Tried Cyanogenmod and i liked it a lot
the only thing im missing well everything in htc sense i want the speed of cyanogenmod but i keep on returning to sense roms.
my question is: is there a way i can replace the htc sense stuff in CM?
like the camera
flip to silent
smart dialer
htc widgets
contact linkup or at least to sync my contacts facebook pictures
sense keyboard
please help me i want cyanogenmod so bad but at least replacements for the sense stuff cz the sense rom are big in size ( 250 mb) and cyanogen is small & fast.
Take a closer look at these Apps:
like the camera ---> Camera360
flip to silent ---> LLama
smart dialer --> Contapps
htc widgets --> which? / what are they doing?
contact linkup or at least to sync my contacts facebook pictures --> contapps
sense keyboard --> ThickButtons
How many apps do you have installed? Because if you're filling it up with 1.1GB of apps, you're doing well!
My recommendation is to use a Sense ROM, then use a ROM cleaner script on top to clear out the stuff you don't use, giving you more space. Because Sense is a full framework, not just a few bits and pieces running on top, you are unlikely to find any replacements for Cyanogenmod that work quite as well.
This could be a bit off topic.
Is there anyway I can get the cynogenmod phone.apk to work with Sense?
I'm coming from mid-ranged and low-end phones to the DHD and all of them use phones.apks similar to the cyanogenmod one. It's been over two weeks and I still uncomfortable with Sense phone.apk.
McKebapp said:
Take a closer look at these Apps:
like the camera ---> Camera360
flip to silent ---> LLama
smart dialer --> Contapps
htc widgets --> which? / what are they doing?
contact linkup or at least to sync my contacts facebook pictures --> contapps
sense keyboard --> ThickButtons
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Well i think launcher pro did the job as for the widgets like sense clock and sense calender
And Thanks For Your Help Bro you helped me a lot
lambomanx1 said:
How many apps do you have installed? Because if you're filling it up with 1.1GB of apps, you're doing well!
My recommendation is to use a Sense ROM, then use a ROM cleaner script on top to clear out the stuff you do't use, giving you more space. Because Sense is a full framework, not just a few bits and pieces running on top, you are unlikely to find any replacements for Cyanogenmod that work quite as well.
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Yeah I Saw This On Android Revolution And i'l give It A Try. Thanks For the idea
lambomanx1 said:
My recommendation is to use a Sense ROM, then use a ROM cleaner script on top to clear out the stuff you don't use, giving you more space. Because Sense is a full framework, not just a few bits and pieces running on top, you are unlikely to find any replacements for Cyanogenmod that work quite as well.
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this is what i recommend too, just strip out everything from the rom you dont want and then flash it
rather than starting at the ground up find replacements for everything, start with the finished article and start slimming it down
ROBINGAZI said:
This could be a bit off topic.
Is there anyway I can get the cynogenmod phone.apk to work with Sense?
I'm coming from mid-ranged and low-end phones to the DHD and all of them use phones.apks similar to the cyanogenmod one. It's been over two weeks and I still uncomfortable with Sense phone.apk.
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Well I Will Give You A Suggestion Try To backup the cyanogenmod dialer in titanium backup and restore it in any rom u want. Always backup first if it didnt work try finding something in the market. And i will try this and i will post a link or tell you if another way worked bro.
I went from an HTC hero which was my first android phone to an optimus v, my preferences for replacing most of the sense feeling is launcher pro for the Widgets and go contacts for the smart dialer/contact linkage. There is a patched HTC_ime somewhere on this forum that will install on a non-sense rom but I can't remember where or search it out right now.
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Just search HTC IME into Google, first result V27, but it isn't updated anymore. That said, I use it, and it does work very well indeed.
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