Develop Bugs

Has anyone used both the 5X and 6P?

So here is my dilemma, just playing with the 6P a bit and i love everything so far about it no issues as of now im still not a fan of AMOLED but its not as bad as i thought it would be but my biggest issue is the phone is massive I have small hands and im not sure I can ever get use to a phone this size, btw im coming from the M8
So I know the 5X is a plastic build, smaller battery and only 1 front speaker these are the things that matter to me but it has the same camera which is one of the main reasons I want to replace my M8
My question for anyone that has used both can you give me an unbiased opinion on speed of the 5X and battery or any other important issues. I just want to know if maybe i should give the 5X a shot

I have Nexus 5X and like it.
I have not used Nexus 6P and although it could be a bit faster, have more RAM or stereo speakers - the size of it is the problem for me. Aluminum is slippery especially if the phone is big and not comfortable to hold + more expensive. I am happy with Nexus 5X and and it completes my daily tasks just like any other flagship device out there. For you, I would suggest, to get 5X, but don't return your 6P just yet. Play with both and return one of them.

iamloco724 said:
So here is my dilemma, just playing with the 6P a bit and i love everything so far about it no issues as of now im still not a fan of AMOLED but its not as bad as i thought it would be but my biggest issue is the phone is massive I have small hands and im not sure I can ever get use to a phone this size, btw im coming from the M8
So I know the 5X is a plastic build, smaller battery and only 1 front speaker these are the things that matter to me but it has the same camera which is one of the main reasons I want to replace my M8
My question for anyone that has used both can you give me an unbiased opinion on speed of the 5X and battery or any other important issues. I just want to know if maybe i should give the 5X a shot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought both and used them and decided on the 5X. The 6P outperforms the 5X pretty much everywhere. But the 5X feels so much smaller/lighter/better in the hand. I tried my best to love the 6P but in the end, it was just too big. The 5X definitely feels cheaper, but I kinda like that. In the end, I kept not looking forward to actually holding the 6P in my hands. As I wrote to someone else, holding the 6P was a bit of a chore. The 5X is plenty fast in performance, but not as fast and smooth as the 6P. Coming from my Galaxy S4, the 5X flies.

This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.

biggolfer said:
This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had both for about a week, and now it's been a week since I returned the 6P. I must say I am not regretting my decision at all. Even things like hitting the fingerprint sensor are better on the 5X. And I must say I definitely prefer the LCD on the 5X to the amoled on the 6P. Movies are the only thing that look better on the 6P; everything else looks better on the 5X, as far as color goes. I did prefer the 6P with sRGB color enabled. If only the 6P was, like, 5.3-5.4 inches and not as heavy. Not only is the 5X easier on the hand, the thing is light as a feather.

Haven't used the 6p, however I'm coming from a 4.7 inch nexus 4, and I was always scared for a screen bigger than 5 inches, but after getting the 5x it fits very nicely and not as big as I thought
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

I have used both for about a week each. My observations are as follows:
Battery Life - The 6P seems to last a fair bit longer than the 5X, for me at least. Even with the same set of apps on both the 6P lasts me a day whereas the 5X requires a top-up mid afternoon.
Screen - Personally I prefer the larger more vibrant screen of the 6P. The other advantage is that the UI seems a bit small on the 5X due to being scaled down compared to other 5.2" phones I have used like the Moto X 2nd Gen. Probably an age thing though, I never used to have a problem with smaller text!
Speed/Performance - Both are fairly fast and responsive, however the 5X tends to get bogged down for a few seconds from time to time. The 6P doesn't seem to do this.
Weight/Size - This is the killer for me. Although I prefer most aspects of the 6P it is just a bit too big to be comfortable in most of my trouser (pants for the Americans among us) pockets . It is worth noting that I didn't have any problem with the size of the 6P while in use - I could type fine one handed using a swipe keyboard.
As had been said many times elsewhere by other people, the phone I really wanted was a 5P..... Ultimately though I have settled on using the 5X for the moment, in the hope that one of the updates will help in the battery life stakes verses the 6P. The 6P just seemed like too much of a hassle to carry around.

biggolfer said:
This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the exact reason I didn't even give the 6P a second thought. After owning the Nexus 6 for many months, I just never felt comfortable with it and ended up back on my Nexus 5. Using it was definitely a burden, especially on the go. I learned first hand that a 6" phone is just too big. I was never able to get used to it. Quite frankly, I don't see how enough people find it to be a good size, thus making manufacturers continue to build phones that big. 5.2" - 5.5" is the sweet spot. Any bigger is just too much.

I ordered both, and I'm returning the 6P
Main reason:
6P is too big, slippery and heavy making one handed use almost impossible.
Secondary reasons:
Pricey.
810 woes. I could feel it get quite warm, although not unbearably so. Again, with the cost in perspective, I would rather wait for a better processor in a 5 inch phone.
I really don't do anything demanding with my phone. I mainly care about the unlocked bootloader and good s/w support, which any nexus would provide.
I still get some mileage over 5, notably wifi calling and band 12 support for t-mobile when it arrives. Combined with the early bird google play promo, I think I paid pretty much the same price for pretty much the same phone, which is fine. I really like my 5, and I'll give it to someone in family. Also, for what it's worth, the 5x should hold better value than 5 since it works with all the carriers in the US, should you choose to sell it later.

I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.

gtg465x said:
I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My 5x has a barely noticeable tint near the bottom half, almost like a gradient on white displays but as you say most people probably wouldn't even notice it. I guess it's not just an AMOLED thing. I did an RMA but the replacement is completely yellow unfortunately, not sure if it's even worth trying again at this time.
My friend got the 6p and I got the 5x. No doubt the 6p is the more premium offering but in day to day use and holding the device the 5x wins hands down.

So I got my 5X today and love it. I will be returning the 6P. I will miss the slightly better performance of the 6P, the larger battery, and the better speakers, but I prefer the screen on the 5X (I'm an LCD and accurate color fan) and most of the experience is the same. Oh, and the camera cover glass on the 6P gives it really bad reflections in photos when the sun is out so I'm hoping the more standard looking lens cover on the 5X solves that.

gtg465x said:
I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has beaten my Moto x, lets see if its a repeat
[emoji1]
Sendt fra min Nexus 5X med Tapatalk

I have both the 5x and the 6p. My 6p has a pink hue I'm waiting for them to release the hold on the first one I returned and I'm going to get another. Besides having the pink hue on the 6p I love both devices for different reasons. I do find myself reaching for my 5x more just because it's more comfortable. I currently have my phone sim in my 5x and my tablet sim in my 6p. I do use both every day though.
Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk

Rogoshin said:
It has beaten my Moto x, lets see if its a repeat
[emoji1]
Sendt fra min Nexus 5X med Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is. Selling the Moto X. I heard so many complaints about the 5X being stuttery and slow, but those people must have defective units or a rogue app constantly running because I can barely tell a difference between the 5X and 6P, sometimes not at all. The 5X is no faster than the Moto X Pure, but scrolling and animations are much smoother.

I have the Nexus 5X and a co-worker of mine has the Nexus 6P which he allowed me to play with for a while. The Nexus 6P is just too big for me. One handed use and comfortable pocketabiltiy are high on my list. I did like the build quality and I prefer the more life like colors and deep blacks of an AMOLED screen(although I'm really happy with the Nexus 5X screen too). As far as battery it seemed to me that while browsing using Chrome the battery on the Nexus 6P dropped at about the same rate as my Nexus 5X with similar conditions and similar results in the battery details screen but I don't do a very accurate test so I can't say for sure but it seems that it's comparable to the Nexus 5X or maybe just a bit better which is what I would expect due to the much higher resolution.

Don't have 6P but N5X is definitely a welcome change in terms of weight and size after spending a year with Oneplus One. I never got used to 5.5" device and having weightless N5X puts it several notches above 6P for me. Besides, with encryption disabled this thing is plenty buttery, so no complaining here.

I've used both and I'm very undecided...
Display - Tie
Nexus 6P pros here are the bigger AMOLED screen. I'm typically an AMOLED fan over LCD and I actually like the over-saturated colors. That said, the LCD on the Nexus 5X is more accurate and has very even blacks (they are still gray compared to an AMOLED, but the screen doesn't have any bright spots/backlight bleed). Also, even though I know AMOLED screens have improved on this front I was still always worried about burn-in since it does start to get noticeable over time. It's nice to not have to worry about that on the 5X. I'd say it's a wash.
Audio - 6P
No contest here. My 6P had slightly imbalanced speakers so I ended up returning it but my wife's is very close to balanced. But even with the balance being slightly off the sound on the 6P is much better than the 5X. The 5X is actually worse than my Moto X 2014. Headphone output is about the same on both.
Performance - Tie
Haven't had any performance issues on either device. The 6P obviously has the faster processor but they're both "good enough" and neither lags in normal use.
Quality Control - 5X
Both 6Ps I've used have minor issues like the screen being seated improperly, the speaker balance being off, etc... The 5X doesn't have any minor imperfections like that.
Battery Life - 6P
No contest here really. The 6P has much better battery life both on standby and when actively using the device. The 5X is "okay" but I barely make it through a day of heavy usage (ie, when I was traveling yesterday) while the 6P can easily handle it.
Usability - 5X
Wasn't really sure what to call this, but the 5X's size just makes it easier to use with one hand. It fits better in your pocket, etc...
Camera - Tie
I haven't seen any observable difference between the two.
So overall I have 2 wins for each and the rest are ties. Obviously it depends on what you prioritize but it's making the decision very tough for me.

Just to follow up on my earlier post (quoted below) I have been switching between the two devices more often than I thought I would. While the size of the 5X is preferable to me the battery life just isn't working out as well as I had hoped, given the the same usage and apps on both (light to moderate usage).
Azarin said:
I have used both for about a week each. My observations are as follows:
Battery Life - The 6P seems to last a fair bit longer than the 5X, for me at least. Even with the same set of apps on both the 6P lasts me a day whereas the 5X requires a top-up mid afternoon.
Screen - Personally I prefer the larger more vibrant screen of the 6P. The other advantage is that the UI seems a bit small on the 5X due to being scaled down compared to other 5.2" phones I have used like the Moto X 2nd Gen. Probably an age thing though, I never used to have a problem with smaller text!
Speed/Performance - Both are fairly fast and responsive, however the 5X tends to get bogged down for a few seconds from time to time. The 6P doesn't seem to do this.
Weight/Size - This is the killer for me. Although I prefer most aspects of the 6P it is just a bit too big to be comfortable in most of my trouser (pants for the Americans among us) pockets . It is worth noting that I didn't have any problem with the size of the 6P while in use - I could type fine one handed using a swipe keyboard.
As had been said many times elsewhere by other people, the phone I really wanted was a 5P..... Ultimately though I have settled on using the 5X for the moment, in the hope that one of the updates will help in the battery life stakes verses the 6P. The 6P just seemed like too much of a hassle to carry around.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

I have returned the 6p and settled on the 5x. The 6p is a beast of a phone, speed, screen, build, etc etc. However, i just could not get personal with it. I am so much more happy with the 5x. A true 5 upgrade. Speed wise yes maybe a bit of difference, but im on my second day and its as fast as my 5 if not faster.

Help Deciding - Nexus 5X or Nexus 6? All Input Appreciated!

So, it doesn't seem to be an easy choice for someone in the market for a new device whom prefers stock Android.
I am trying to weigh out the pros and cons between the 5X and the 6. (In my personal opinion of course)
Pros of the 6:
1440P Amoled Display
SD 805 (Yes, I consider this a Pro)
3GB ram
Dual Front Facing Speakers
Wireless Charging
Pros of the 5X:
Form Factor
Nexus Imprint
Better Camera
64bit soc ?
USB C ?
Is it right to compare the 5X to the 6, giving the substantial size difference? I believe so due to the price. I mean, the 32GB Nexus 6 is $80 cheaper than the 32GB Nexus 5X.
Tomorrow (11/24/2015) I will be receiving two packages from Fedex. One will contain a Brand New White Nexus 6, the other a Brand New Black Nexus 5X. I have 24 hours to decide which I want to keep.
I will GREATLY appreciate any and all input from current Nexus 5X owners. What made you decide to purchase a Nexus 5X, knowing that you could have gotten a Nexus 6 for less?
P.S- I'm not a fan of the Nexus 6P. I feel it is well worth $500, but for some reason I just don't really like it. I don't know if it is its appearance, the fact that it is a Huawei, I don't know. But something makes me not want it.

No one? Was it something I said? lol

Get the 5X, especially for the imprint it's worth it. Has good battery life also. I love it, I thought I wouldn't with all the "bad" reviews but it's an amazing phone!

buru898 said:
Get the 5X, especially for the imprint it's worth it. Has good battery life also. I love it, I thought I wouldn't with all the "bad" reviews but it's an amazing phone!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you like most about your 5X? What color did you go with?
It's like, I love the N6 AMOLED Display and Dual Stereo Speakers, but then I love the 5X Form Factor and Nexus Imprint. The AMOLED vs IPS isnt that big of a deal to me. I love AMOLEDs deep blacks and vibrant colors, but I dont like their uneven pixel wearing and future nav bar / status bar retention. The 5X seems more future proof with 64bit SOC and USB C, but how future proof is 2GB of ram?
Sigh, I am way over thinking this! There is a 90% chance that regardless of which I get, it will be replaced with a new Nexus next Oct / Nov.
The Nexus 6 has a better display and better speakers. I just need to decide if that justifies the loss of a favorable form factor, fingerprint sensor, and better camera.

I went with black. I did want the AMOLED but this display is good anyway. Do you really need the stereo speakers? I find that kind of a gimmick. It's nice and all but the speaker on this phone works well, plus there's a mod to allow sound from the earpiece and it's surprisingly good.
With more iterations of Android, the RAM usage will only get better. I do wish it had 3GB but it performs fast for me.
You could get the 6 for cheap then just get the new Nexus phone next year . That's also not a bad idea, but I didn't like how big that phone is. The N5X is JUST big enough to where it isn't too big.

Nexus 5x is better for me.
The N6 was my phone, I sold it to buy a N5X. Today I have no regret.
Two main reasons : the N6 size and weight, it was difficult to use with one hand.
Other reasons : imprint, much better camera, much better battery, USB C, and IPS N5X screen is for me better than N6 amoled.
The only thing i am missing is the dual speakers.

yauyau said:
Nexus 5x is better for me.
The N6 was my phone, I sold it to buy a N5X. Today I have no regret.
Two main reasons : the N6 size and weight, it was difficult to use with one hand.
Other reasons : imprint, much better camera, much better battery, USB C, and IPS N5X screen is for me better than N6 amoled.
The only thing i am missing is the dual speakers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not alone here then. You actually sold your Nexus 6 and bought a 5X. Did you ever feel like you "downgraded". I guess there are pros and cons to both really.
I like the Nexus 6 and for some reason I feel like if I go with the 5X I am downgrading. Yet, for some reason something is making me want the 5X. I guess I am trying to decide between performance and form factor. To me it seems the Nexus 6 has better specs as far as processor, ram, display, speakers. But, the 5X has a more functional form factor, fingerprint sensor, better camera, and USB C.
Talk about first world problems.... lol. Rough life I have, trying to decide if I want to keep the Nexus 6 or the Nexus 5X.
In the end, I think I am going to go with the 5X. I like the idea of the big beasty Nexus 6, but it is the phablet of phablets. Sure the display is nice and all, but damn it is a huge phone. Also, I am far from a power user. I do not play games or even download them to my phones. So the larger screen will be kind of a waste for me. My phone usage consist of calls, texts, web browsing, YouTube, normal app usage. I think the 5X is perfect for me. I'm not sure if it is worth getting the Nexus 6 just to have a better youtube experience, because for my usage that is about all I will be gaining.
I have been thinking about picking up a Nexus 7 for the at the house anyways. So maybe I will just stick with the 5X and pick up a Nexus 7 for the house. Then I will have the best of both worlds. Larger screen for media at home, and a solid functional phone for on the go.

Well I received my Nexus 6 and my Nexus 5X today. Next to the 5X, the Nexus 6 doesn't seem THAT much bigger. Until you turn the screens on. Then, I see a big difference. Colors look much more vivid on the 6, but whites look whiter on the 5X. I definitely did not get a 5X with the yellowing issue. My whites on my 5X are WHITE, where on the 6 they look slightly creamy. The 6 display is definitely brighter when both devices are max. I do see where people are coming from about AMOLED displays. They are super vivid, and the colors just pop, but they also have a cartoony look to them. Definitely over saturated. Call my crazy but I am starting to like the 5X display more. I have never had an AMOLED next to an IPS like this before. (previous iPhone guy here).
I would say the Whites and Grays look much better on the 5X, and the colors can look better on the 6, but almost way over saturated at times.
They both feel pretty good in the hand. More so the 5X, it actually feels like a phone. The 6 is just so wide. Feels more like a mini tablet than a phone. I snapped a few pics. The 5X definitely takes a better picture. The speakers on the 6 smoke the 5X hands down. (obviously) I love Nexus Imprint though.
This is going to be hard! I am giving myself until tomorrow morning to decide. It is looking to be exactly as I predicted. Do I want beasty media device with a huge display and dual speakers, or do I want a more functional device with a fingerprint sensor and better battery life.
Sigh.... I will say that I am leaning a little bit more towards the 5X. I am going to do some real world performance tests and see how that goes.

Rektifying said:
Did you ever feel like you "downgraded".
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sure, the size of the screen and dual speakers give a better experience for youtube and web browsing, maybe for games too. But N5X screen size is not so far from N6' one. And I repeat, N5x IPS is better to my eyes than N6 amoled.
When I bought the N6 and saw its screen, after the N4, I said "wow it is large" !! When I put the phone in my pocket I also said "wow it is very large and heavy weight" !! After a few weeks, I felt I could not forget i had my phone with me, here in my pocket, annoying for all I was doing all day long (sitting, walking, driving, ...).
After my N6 I felt downgraded because I went back to my N4. That's maybe why I feel "upgraded" now.
sorry for my english...

yauyau said:
Sure, the size of the screen and dual speakers give a better experience for youtube and web browsing, maybe for games too. But N5X screen size is not so far from N6' one. And I repeat, N5x IPS is better to my eyes than N6 amoled.
When I bought the N6 and saw its screen, after the N4, I said "wow it is large" !! When I put the phone in my pocket I also said "wow it is very large and heavy weight" !! After a few weeks, I felt I could not forget i had my phone with me, here in my pocket, annoying for all I was doing all day long (sitting, walking, driving, ...).
After my N6 I felt downgraded because I went back to my N4. That's maybe why I feel "upgraded" now.
sorry for my english...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I love the idea of the 5X. The only problem is I have been using a Nexus 6 for almost two months. I'm so use to the display. It's super nice for Chrome and YouTube. Typing is a dream.
However, I have noticed the faults of its camera. It takes less than desirable photos. There are many times where I have tried to pull it out and use it while doing something, and I had to set down what was in my other hand to finish what I was doing on it. The size is awesome for media, and bad for everything else.
The form factor and functionality will be so much better if I go with the 5X. It would be nice to be able to whip out my phone, have it unlocked by the time it's out of my pocket, and send a text easily one handed. The camera would be a welcomed change as well.
Decisions, Decisions.

So, N5X is a good compromise.

The Nexus 5X would have been a good compromise. I couldn't do it though. After using the 5X for two days, I decided against it.
I feel the 5X is a great phone! I have nothing bad to say about it! If I had went from my iPhone 6 to the 5X I would have loved it! Going from a 4.7" LCD to a 5.2" LCD would have been a nice upgrade! However, I didn't. I went from an iPhone 6 to a Nexus 6. The switch made me love Amoled displays, as well as larger displays. (Phablets)
Ultimately I put the 5X side by side to the Nexus 6 and used them both for a couple hours. This just made me fully appreciate the 6 display and the dual stereo speakers even more. The 5X fingerprint sensor and better camera were not enough for me to ditch the 5.96" AMOLED Display and Dual Stereo Speakers. Don't get me wrong though, I thought the 5X did have a very nice IPS display. It had better whites than the 6, but to me colors and blacks couldn't even compare.
Farewell Nexus 5X forum. I will be returning to the Nexus 6 forum.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Only had the phone 3 days, but it has the most cohesive feel of all the Android devices I've owned, not as featureless as my Nexus 7, not over the top like my older HTC/Samsung devices. Switched to Nova Launcher, then switched back to Pixel launcher because it felt a better fit.

I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers mobile app

I actually very much love this phone, I was expecting a lot to be hype, yet battery is good, cameras awesome see attached pics, and overall it's probably the best phone I owned in awhile, I was using an iPhone 5s, missed mu Android,. Operating system is fast and responsive and split screen multitasking is great especially with YouTube and chrome open

subhani said:
I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
Sent from my Pixel using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im sorry but the 6P does not have a better camera. Coming from a 6P as well i agree with some of your viewpoints but the camera isn't a valid arguement. While the 6P camera is good its not at the level of the pixel.

I've used android phones, I've used iPhones. If this is what Google has to offer with its first Pixel phone I'm excited for Pixel 2 already. The camera rocks, love the quality of photos, the UI is intuitive and fast. Opening apps feels instant for me at least no delay. Have yet to see the device slow down. Almost elliminates the need to shy away from stock one can be hopeful that Verizon doesn't end up blocking depixel8 otherwise I may end up unlocking the bootloader if I see they do.

I use an Android and iPhone handset concurrently for work-related reasons. The Pixel is great, and compares very favorably with the iPhone.
Battery: I used to run all intensive apps like Waze and streaming audio through the iPhone, now I don't fear running them on the Android.
App switching: You know when you're chatting with someone and you look something up to further your discussion along? The Overview button double-tap for switching back and forth is so great.
Fingerprint reader: Is faster than the iPhone 6.
You can probably get a nearly identical experience with a Xiaomi or Oneplus phone without spending $650+. I remember even seeing one of the new Xiaomi flagships featuring the same camera sensor. But I hoped that the Pixel being was it is, it'll be a more bug-free experience.

I bought this phone expecting to not like it and sell it in a few weeks. It doesn't have an sd card slot or a removable battery. That's a pretty big deal to me. But I got the 128gb and started allowing Google to back up my pics. I can go 16 hours on the battery with 4 hours SOT. That's exponentially better than my MXP or pretty much any other phone I've used. I have grandfathered unlimited on Verizon so my choices are slim if I want root. Everything about this phone works very well. It's super quick and feels good in the hand. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with it.
Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk

I adore this phone. By far my favorite phone I've owned (S3, EVO 4G, EVO 4G LTE, HTC M8, Galaxy Note 5, Samsung Fireball, LG V20, LG V10). The experience has been unparalleled for me.

It's a great phone, but not worth the price tag that comes with it.

I would consider this to be the "photographer's phone." It has a great camera and amazing EIS. As well as unlimited original photo hosting on Google Photos.
Did I mention it has UNLIMITED, ORIGINAL photo hosting on Google Photos?
Don't get me wrong, there could be better cameras out there, but you just can't beat that perk of having a Pixel.

As a long time samsung owner, this device is a breath of fresh air. If it were more water resistant, and had wireless charging, it'd be a perfect 10.

what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods

So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.

Geeks Empire said:
what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
JoeHockey said:
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into Tasker.
PsiPhiDan said:
Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.

JoeHockey said:
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's an app for the twist camera. Made by the same guy who made ForceDoze.

tobalaz said:
Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Battery life is much better than comparable Androids devices. I've never had such great battery life, honestly. Interestingly, I had an M8 for a year and did NOT get close to 3 days (not even 2). Coming from an LG V20, V10, Note 5 and Note 7 (and watching my wife's S7), this battery life is tremendous. I literally don't ever pay attention to battery anymore. I go to bed with 30-50% usually. I just charge overnight (why not?) to be safe.
But yes, the sound of M8 was unparalleled. Why they quit on that feature I'll never understand.

Overall I am pretty happy with the Pixel. I don't like large phones so i am glad Google offered a smaller version. I used to have the Nexus 5x (still do) but the Pixel has been lag free. Anyone who has been using Google's devices long enough knows the thing starts to lag and the only thing to get rid of it is to totally format every so often. This has been running great so far so I am happy.
One thing I hope Google does not do is eventually become like Samsung or Apple where they totally lock down the device. The price point was already bad enough, but if the attempt to become mainstream to the point where the phone cannot be customized I will be very unhappy.
If they want to sell their product as "Pure Android", that should include customization outside of their OWN OS. Locking things down is no better than Apple or Samsung.

6P vs Pixel XL

I have a ROM problem.... T-Mobil is giving a $325 rebate and wondering if worth the upgrade $$ ? Thoughts?

I like the 6p over the pixel in terms of build quality but pixel just slightly snappier but you'd be Happy​ with either one

One of my best friends has the 6P, and I have the Pixel XL. The pixel is a little faster than his 6P, but the screen is slightly smaller. He wants a pixel, but decided he would wait for the pixel 2 because 6P -> Pixel isn't that much of a jump.
basically, pixel is a little faster and ive noticed better speeds when connected to the same wifi network when streaming videos (honestly negligible difference). The camera on the pixel is way more detailed/
hope this helped.

I agree I have both the 6p and the Pixel XL and while the pixel is a little faster the 6p is no slouch. Now that I have both I'm amazed how smooth the 6p still is. If you can wait just wait for the 2. Either way, though you will be happy. Now if you want a better camera then the pixel definitely has that over the 6p.

rweddy1 said:
I have a ROM problem.... T-Mobil is giving a $325 rebate and wondering if worth the upgrade $$ ? Thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Meh... With that amount of credit I would go with the Pixel XL.
The camera is awesome.. The screen is great... Its the fastest Android phone I have owned.
I say go with Pixel XL

Just for the outstanding looking and ultra fast system I think Pixel wouldn't disappoint you.

What about developer support ? ROMs, TWRP, etc? I tend be bounce between Pure Nexus, Linage, etc.

Screen brightness is much brighter on Pixel if that matters. Especially after using Flars HBM mod.

I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.

I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

tafo said:
I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.

buzzboy said:
I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely bro...but I'm really shocked about Rom development are done outside xda!!
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Scrog said:
I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean you cannot root the Pixel XL?
Is this because you have a verizon model with locked boot loader?

My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.

AJZ12 said:
My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

tafo said:
The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.

AJZ12 said:
I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the great info around this, with the tmobile rebate and selling my 6P it is 100 delta. Plus battery life and screen brightness is an issue for me during the day outside.
Cheers,
-RE

I had the 6P for 360 days, when it went into the famous bootloop. Just watched a video on youtube, and it suddenly rebooted, and never got out of it. I saw the warning screen, the google logo for 2 seconds, and puff, reboot, then warning, google logo 2 seconds, reboot.... ..... That was my 4th android phone, but the first one that just broke (even the first phone ever that broke). I loved it, I loved big phones, I loved that it was a nexus, it was thin, fast, and I almost cried when it became a brick. I was astonished, when i discovered, that i'm not the only one. Many people, talked on many forums about the same issue (or about the battery dying at 50%), there was no solution, but to return the phone. I will never buy a huawei again. Never....
I returned the phone, and got my money back (on the same day when the guarantee expired....), and I have put some more to it, and bought a 128GB pixel. Yes, the small one, because who the hell has 1100-1200 euros for a damn phone ? (and also because there was no 128GB pixel xl around at that time ).
Where do i start ? This little thing is better in every way, then the 6P or, any other phone I held, or used.
Speed: The 6P was fast, but the pixel is 10 times faster. Everything opens in a moment, even pages in chrome, I can scroll a still loading page. Try to open this xda page in chrome, and scroll a bit down, then back up. The 6P lagged like hell, but there is no lag in the pixel. Try to copy files from the 6P to the computer (i know, who cares, but this somewhat benchmarks the internal memory speed), I was jumping like a monkey when i first saw that I copy files with about 30-40MB/s from the 6P. I did a backup of the pixel and I copied with 140MB/s IN..F*CKING..SANE! No wonder it is faster in every day usage... Ok. Speed is done. It is just faster, no lag, no thinking, loading, nothing. Just does eveything in the blink of an eye. Really.
Sound: The 6P sounds like ****... (I know there is the stereo front facing speaker, but who listens to music on the phone's speaker?) I use headphones, and I listen to music through those. And the 6P was **** even with mods (viper, dolby, .....) The pixel has the same DAC (digital audio converter) like the HTC10, which was famous because of that. And boy, does it sound good. The same music, same headphones, same mods, and the difference is night and day! Eargasm
Build: Just the most premium feel on a phone until now. It is sturdy. A little bit thick, but feels like it can't be broken. That Jerry guy on youtube bent the 6P in half like a piece of paper, but he couldn't bend the pixel. Only a little bit, so the the glass started to shift away from the housing, but it went back to normal when he released it. You could see his fingers shake, and going all white while he tried to bend it. Really. It feels premium. The metal, the glass, I love to hold it.
Screen: Now this is something I don't know. I own the small pixel, which is 5" and "only" full HD, but I must say the colors are much more vivid and the brightness is higher than it was on the 6P. I love the little screen though... It may vary on the pixel xl....
Battery: My god! I never tought this is even possible The small pixel has a 2700MAh battery, a lot smaller then the 6P's but man! I am an extreme user. Not playing but listening to youtube, twitter, browsing, listening to music through a ****load of mods, using at least 2 cpu cores all the time, using the camera, bluetooth/wifi/sync always on, auto brightness set to 50%.... The 6P was great, because I came close to 3hours of screen on time. I loved this. It was my first phone that I only charged once a day. But it was always empty at the end of day. The pixel? Same apps, same usage, same protocol all day, and it has half the battery at the end of the day. I can almost use it for 2 days. Okay, 1.7 days I have reached 7hours of SOT. it is usually 4-5 hours, but in some cases I can even go beyond that. During the night it drops 1%, or not even that.
Processor: I was afraid of the SD810 when i bought the 6P. I read all the articles, but said "**** it! It can't be that bad!". But it is It is ****. If the 6P had the SD820, or 821, It would be on the same level as the pixel, but with that crap, it is worse in energy efficiency, and performance. (and everything...) The SD821 is lightyears away!
Camera: I loved the 6P, because it took very nice pictures, even in low light conditions. I'm not a photographer, I know almost nothing about it, but when I shot my first pixel photo, I have **** my pants It's just awesome. In the dark, in sunlight, the colors, the sharpness, the details, there can be shades, and total sunlight on the same photo... Oh yes, and people who might know some things about photography, said that it is the best camera on a smartphone
Some small things that come with it: I know, it is not a good point, because you can enable it on any phone now, and even before, but google assistant is awesome And there is the unlimited photo/video storage, in original quality. Or that the support for the 6P will end soon, but you win an additional year with the pixel, because it is newer. The VR readiness.. And many many small things...
I wanted to keep the 6P, and I was angry at google when they announced the pixel with these prices. But now, I wouldn't go back to the 6P.. Never. The pixel is worth the damn high price. It is awesome already because it is damn fast. I love to use it. Sometimes I just turn it on, and open something just for fun, and because "maybe this will be the first time I see a lag, or stuttering, or something other than opening it in a damn moment", but it never happens. It just does it without any problems.
By the way, the community is also great, you have the same ****, PureNexus, RR, mods, same kernels (franco, elementalx), everything like the 6P, but I'm getting old, and in my experience, stock is always better then the things that are stuffed with "extra settings". Especially now, that stock android has multiwindow, and many great features from old times. I am only rooted because of tasker, titanium backup, and my music mods. The rest is stock.
It costs a lot of money, but it is worth all of it.. I would totally buy it again, If someone would ask me.

@gubacsek, Welll said, I couldn't agree more.
The Pixel XL is a stunning device, and I have no regrets switching from 6p.
Unlimited photo storage at full quality was an amazing bonus for me, as I take a ridiculous amount of photos and 4k video.

AJZ12 said:
I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly...today i remembered that I bought 30000 mA power bank and i used to recharge my 6p 2- 3 times a day... With pixel... i totally forgot the power bank!!! Im using the phone on a single charge with average of 5.5 hours SOT from bed to bed time ?(7 am till 10 pm) which is hilarious
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

OnePlus 5T vs Razer Phone... Help me pick

First, I'd like to say it's been a LONG time since my last post lol...
I currently have an iPhone 6S Plus and it's showing it's age. If I were to go with an iPhone 8 Plus it would just be the same old phone I have. Not worth $800+ to me.
So I kinda accidentally bought an iPhone X... hated it.
I returned the iPhone X which you can read about why here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/iphone/comments/7bfm69/my_quick_iphone_x_review/
Next the Note 8 caught my eye ever since I saw it on display in a store. It was a great phone. I didn't have any major issues with it. Except for the one simple fact of managing notifications (mostly texts) on the lock screen. It was more steps to complete the same task on the Note vs the iPhone. Once or twice is no big deal, but all day long it got annoying.
iPhone -
1) 3D press on text notification
2) Reply
Note 8 -
1) Pick up phone
2) Double tap on messages icon
3) Unlock with finger print on back (my preferred form of security)
4) Swipe down notifications
5) Find the notification
6) Press reply
7) Be brought into the messages app or reply in a tiny notification box
I tried a bunch of different messaging apps. None of them allowed you to simply reply from the lock screen without having to unlock your phone and fiddle with notifications every time. The solution is to have no security. Is that really a solution?
I've owned Android before...
Samsung Blackjack
iPhone 2G
iPhone 3G
iPhone 3GS
iPhone 4
iPhone 4S
Galaxy S3
Note 1
Note 2
LG G3
Note 3 (had issues and traded it for the iPhone 5S)
iPhone 5S
iPhone 6 Plus
iPhone 6S Plus
iPhone X - Returned
Note 8 - Returned
So I'd say I had my fair share of experience on both OSes.
I was very active on here with my Note 2. I really loved that phone, but again it got old and was time to move on.
My Note 3 had so many issues after only a few weeks with it I got rid of it and Apple has locked me into their ecosystem since...
However, I feel like Apple has lost it's touch. They're getting worse and worse. Consumers are becoming beta testers and the software is becoming so sloppy that I am literally afraid to update because of my phone slowing down, killing battery life, breaking something, etc...
Currently the Razer Phone and the OnePlus 5T have my attention. Hardware is pretty similar on both phones, although the Razer phone has that beautiful 120hz screen. Not sure it's worth the price difference though.
Performance is about the same on both phones since they have pretty much the same hardware. I think it comes down to personal preference as to fingerprint location, expandable storage, speaker quality, headphone jack, etc... One big complaint I see about the Razer Phone is brightness. If I'm outside and can't see the screen that's not going to be good.
More importantly to me is how the phones will be supported after purchase. My biggest fear is a company making a phone like this and then dumping support for it 6 months down the line for a new phone or giving you the run around for a warranty claim.
Can you sell me on either phone?

I was looking at both of these phones as well. Although for different reasons. I came from a Pixel XL.
The screen and battery life on the Razer were deal-breakers for me. Too dim (and LCD) and it made the 4000mah battery run like a 2800mah.
The other deciding factor was software. I knew the OnePlus would have years of excellent Dev support with the latest custom firmwares and all the tweaking I would ever want. The Razer, didn't have this guarantee.
I got the 5T and it is wonderful. The screen is gorgeous (Samsung) and it gets 8h SOT over 48 hours.

I was on the same boat and looked at the razer and the screen was just so dim, I read its like 300nits of brightness which is more than half of the note 8.
the battery takes a big hit with 120hz on.
I got my oneplus 5t coming today so can wait.
Thanks
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

Am in the same boat. I have the note 8 and the thing has been fast. I am however attracted by the 8gb on the 5t and razer, and am also very much undecided. Am not bothered about the price difference, my main debate is which is more faster between the 2?

a5ian300zx said:
I was on the same boat and looked at the razer and the screen was just so dim, I read its like 300nits of brightness which is more than half of the note 8.
the battery takes a big hit with 120hz on.
I got my oneplus 5t coming today so can wait.
Thanks
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, brightness is something I'd have to see for myself to decide.
How is the 5T treating you so far?
xocomaox said:
The screen and battery life on the Razer were deal-breakers for me. Too dim (and LCD) and it made the 4000mah battery run like a 2800mah.
The other deciding factor was software. I knew the OnePlus would have years of excellent Dev support with the latest custom firmwares and all the tweaking I would ever want. The Razer, didn't have this guarantee.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Really, the battery? I've heard nothing but good reviews about the battery on the Razer. I actually prefer LCD over AMOLED. I'm just used to looking at LCD on my iPhone. The iPhone X OLED gave me migraines.
Software is definitely a big deal. I know OnePlus has a good record of updating. Razer is an unknown and at this point that's my biggest concern.
Someone on Reddit told me the 5T got a KRACK fix already. iOS is still unpatched lol
marvi0 said:
Am in the same boat. I have the note 8 and the thing has been fast. I am however attracted by the 8gb on the 5t and razer, and am also very much undecided. Am not bothered about the price difference, my main debate is which is more faster between the 2?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Both should be faster than the Note 8, which I thought was pretty damn fast. I turned animations to 0.5x which sped things up a bit.
Watching some speed test videos between the Razer and the 5T they both were neck and neck as far as speed goes. Some apps were faster on one phone, but only by milliseconds.

Only thing about razer is lack of dev support at the moment and that's where the oneplus will definitely excel. Even root is not yet available. I could do without dev support but root is a must for me.

marvi0 said:
Only thing about razer is lack of dev support at the moment and that's where the oneplus will definitely excel. Even root is not yet available. I could do without dev support but root is a must for me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Eh, neither is a deal breaker for me. I know root on the Razer definitely will void your warranty. Judging from my interaction with Razer support so far though, they likely won't care or check it. Seemed pretty clueless about simple questions, which is kinda steering me away from that phone.

Let's just say , first day using my 5T, and I am amazed.
I've used 50+ devices in the last 4 years.
This phone is arguably a better daily than the S8.
All of the deal breakers I had in mind about the phone are gone.
The speaker sounds fantastic for a single one,
Water resistance has left my mind ,however it would be nice.
The 3.5mm jack sounds beautiful.
And the screen is wonderful.
I can't believe it's only $499!!!
I've had the G6 and S8. This phone is right there with them.
A big what if,
The camera isn't as good as those flagships. It's not bad. It's serviceable. Hopefully better with updates ?

apparently even though the oneplus 5t does not have water proof certification but tests proof it has indeed some type of water proofing.
there is a YouTube video on it.
I will have mine setup tomorrow evening.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk

a5ian300zx said:
I will have mine setup tomorrow evening.
Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Let me know how it goes

{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Hope this is the right choice!

You made the right choice with the Miata.
This is also the right choice.

Jooosty said:
You made the right choice with the Miata.
This is also the right choice.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you explain why?

The Razer phone will be basically unusable in direct sunlight.
The Razer phone will have little to no dev support.
Will the Razer phone continue to get updates for 2+ years? Who knows...
The Razer phone costs $200 more.
The Razer phone will almost certainly have no third party accessories beyond a few ****ty cases from AliExpress.
OnePlus 5t has none of these problems.
/thread imo

mazdamiata210 said:
Hope this is the right choice!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You made the right decision. If you ever feel down by OP5T come to Denver we will smoke some ganja and you will forget everything

I too am deciding whether I should take the 5t or the 3t. I am a student and have around 400 £. My main issue with the 5t right now is that it seems a bit to large for me. I have the s7 and would like to know if the 5t is really a big phone.
Also, do you think the camera will be better than my s7?
Thank you very much !

Colday96 said:
I too am deciding whether I should take the 5t or the 3t. I am a student and have around 400 £. My main issue with the 5t right now is that it seems a bit to large for me. I have the s7 and would like to know if the 5t is really a big phone.
Also, do you think the camera will be better than my s7?
Thank you very much !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty sure with the student discount you can get the 5T for around 400
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8647&idPhone2=7945
Seems to be about the same size

mazdamiata210 said:
Hope this is the right choice!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can assure you that you definitely won't be disappointed with your decision.
My last phone was a Pixel and in my opinion this 5T is a much more premium device, faster, way more features, better sound through speaker and Bluetooth, much better and brighter screen, very good automatic brightness, better battery life, better everything basically. I don't have a bad word to say about it yet and I am extremely picky.
Also i have the oneplus glass screen protector and the karbon case and the feel in the hand is just superb, everyone I've shown the phone to has been impressed with the appearance and feel of it, it's not very protective but very sleek and keeps the phone thin and light.
---------- Post added at 11:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:10 PM ----------
Colday96 said:
I too am deciding whether I should take the 5t or the 3t. I am a student and have around 400 £. My main issue with the 5t right now is that it seems a bit to large for me. I have the s7 and would like to know if the 5t is really a big phone.
Also, do you think the camera will be better than my s7?
Thank you very much !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size
Good website to compare sizes, make sure you calibrate it with your current phone or a credit card.
I'm not a fan of large phones either, i hate holding my girlfriend's iPhone 6s plus, I was wondering if I would like the size of the 5T coming from the smaller Pixel but I'm not disappointed at all, it's a very thin phone and I use it one handed most of the time with no issues.
Pulling down status bar can be a bit of a stretch but there is an option to use the fingerprint reader to pull it down.

mazdamiata210 said:
Can you explain why?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too was interested in the Razer.
I realized, although it is first to the table with 120hz screen etc etc.
The phone is sort of like an experiment. The front speakers are a nice touch. I am not a headphone jack whore, but it is indeed a nice touch for the 5T ( quality is excellent btw)
Do not be afraid of camera quality. It's quite good. If using the GCam apk.
Also just the overall software of the 5T, you literally have almost every custom option you could ask for.
The Razer, superbly smooth screen with low brightness.
Dope speakers. Questionable camera. Great build.
We will not know about the updates with Razers new device.
With the 5T, Oreo will be here soon.

Jooosty said:
I too was interested in the Razer.
I realized, although it is first to the table with 120hz screen etc etc.
The phone is sort of like an experiment. The front speakers are a nice touch. I am not a headphone jack whore, but it is indeed a nice touch for the 5T ( quality is excellent btw)
Do not be afraid of camera quality. It's quite good. If using the GCam apk.
Also just the overall software of the 5T, you literally have almost every custom option you could ask for.
The Razer, superbly smooth screen with low brightness.
Dope speakers. Questionable camera. Great build.
We will not know about the updates with Razers new device.
With the 5T, Oreo will be here soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Razer is promising alot... Will they deliver? Who knows.
One thing is for sure. For their first phone they certainly hit a home run.