I have a ROM problem.... T-Mobil is giving a $325 rebate and wondering if worth the upgrade $$ ? Thoughts?
I like the 6p over the pixel in terms of build quality but pixel just slightly snappier but you'd be Happy with either one
One of my best friends has the 6P, and I have the Pixel XL. The pixel is a little faster than his 6P, but the screen is slightly smaller. He wants a pixel, but decided he would wait for the pixel 2 because 6P -> Pixel isn't that much of a jump.
basically, pixel is a little faster and ive noticed better speeds when connected to the same wifi network when streaming videos (honestly negligible difference). The camera on the pixel is way more detailed/
hope this helped.
I agree I have both the 6p and the Pixel XL and while the pixel is a little faster the 6p is no slouch. Now that I have both I'm amazed how smooth the 6p still is. If you can wait just wait for the 2. Either way, though you will be happy. Now if you want a better camera then the pixel definitely has that over the 6p.
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Meh... With that amount of credit I would go with the Pixel XL.
The camera is awesome.. The screen is great... Its the fastest Android phone I have owned.
I say go with Pixel XL
Just for the outstanding looking and ultra fast system I think Pixel wouldn't disappoint you.
What about developer support ? ROMs, TWRP, etc? I tend be bounce between Pure Nexus, Linage, etc.
Screen brightness is much brighter on Pixel if that matters. Especially after using Flars HBM mod.
I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.
I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
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I have 6p and pixel xl, as you have read before, I feel the build quality on 6p is more premium and solid than the pixel, i miss the loud speakers, custom ROMs and mods varieties on 6p,
in contrast, pixel XL screen is brighter, system speed is smoother and snappier, the camera is awesome, and the best thing in pixel XL that it has a great battery life..
the worst thing in pixel XL that i dont feel it as a major update from 6p ( remember, we paid worth of 860$ for pixel xl)and I feel it will have a dark future in customizations and development which is the opposite in Nexus family..simple things like installing Roms and rooting are really pain in the neck... honestly...despite the advantages of pixel xl..im thinking to return back to 6p..
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I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.
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I've come from 6p also, Development does seem a little slow in comparison. I think it's mainly due to the high price of the unit for starters.
Then there's the new partition layout which has understandably slowed things down.
Also a lot of developers are posting their builds outside of XDA now.
Let's hope that things pick up here.
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Absolutely bro...but I'm really shocked about Rom development are done outside xda!!
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I had to change when I jumped to verizon (long story). Really miss the 6P. Pixel XL is okay but doesn't feel as solid. Can't root the stupid Pixel XL either.
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What do you mean you cannot root the Pixel XL?
Is this because you have a verizon model with locked boot loader?
My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.
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My experience has varied compared to some of these posts. I had the 6P and switched to the Pixel XL because of a problem with the noise cancelling mic on the 6P. (Google finally agreed to replace my 6P after I bought the Pixel)
I like the Pixel XL slightly more than the 6P. Not enough to switch if I didn't have an issue with the 6P. Both devices were smooth. I feel like the Pixel has a better build quality. The aluminum on the 6P seemed to dent easily and the buttons weren't very sturdy. Don't get me wrong, the 6P is a very sturdy phone but the Pixel seems to be sturdier. The screen on my 6P was brighter. The Pixel is hard to see in the sun whereas the 6P was not. The 6P has a 64GB option which is what the Pixel should have started at IMO. I had a 6P charging port go bad and had to get that replaced then the replacement had noise canceling mic problems (software issue on stock Android for the 6P) causing an echo for whomever I was talking to. This issue wasn't fixed after 3 security updates so Google replaced it. I haven't really used the replacement yet. The AMOLED screen on the 6P seemed to be affected by screen burn-in from the notification bar and navigation bar rather quickly (probably because it was brighter). Both have really good cameras but the Pixel's is better.
Besides that, the phones are pretty equivalent for everyday use. Both even handle intense use pretty well but the SD 810 in the 6P throttles the speeds regularly under heavy use when the ambient temperature is warm. I haven't experienced throttling on the Pixel.
I don't think upgrading from the 6P to the Pixel is worth it unless you can get the Pixel for the price of the 6P at the time you bought it. IMO, the big price difference isn't justified by the small performance difference.
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The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
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The main reason i shifted to pixel mainly because of current bad battery life of 6p, i bought a new pixel XL 128 gb for 700$ ( someone bought it and then he is broke so he needs money) its true that i bought it at a good price, but i still feel its expensive and not convinced worth of upgrade
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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Thanks for the great info around this, with the tmobile rebate and selling my 6P it is 100 delta. Plus battery life and screen brightness is an issue for me during the day outside.
Cheers,
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I had the 6P for 360 days, when it went into the famous bootloop. Just watched a video on youtube, and it suddenly rebooted, and never got out of it. I saw the warning screen, the google logo for 2 seconds, and puff, reboot, then warning, google logo 2 seconds, reboot.... ..... That was my 4th android phone, but the first one that just broke (even the first phone ever that broke). I loved it, I loved big phones, I loved that it was a nexus, it was thin, fast, and I almost cried when it became a brick. I was astonished, when i discovered, that i'm not the only one. Many people, talked on many forums about the same issue (or about the battery dying at 50%), there was no solution, but to return the phone. I will never buy a huawei again. Never....
I returned the phone, and got my money back (on the same day when the guarantee expired....), and I have put some more to it, and bought a 128GB pixel. Yes, the small one, because who the hell has 1100-1200 euros for a damn phone ? (and also because there was no 128GB pixel xl around at that time ).
Where do i start ? This little thing is better in every way, then the 6P or, any other phone I held, or used.
Speed: The 6P was fast, but the pixel is 10 times faster. Everything opens in a moment, even pages in chrome, I can scroll a still loading page. Try to open this xda page in chrome, and scroll a bit down, then back up. The 6P lagged like hell, but there is no lag in the pixel. Try to copy files from the 6P to the computer (i know, who cares, but this somewhat benchmarks the internal memory speed), I was jumping like a monkey when i first saw that I copy files with about 30-40MB/s from the 6P. I did a backup of the pixel and I copied with 140MB/s IN..F*CKING..SANE! No wonder it is faster in every day usage... Ok. Speed is done. It is just faster, no lag, no thinking, loading, nothing. Just does eveything in the blink of an eye. Really.
Sound: The 6P sounds like ****... (I know there is the stereo front facing speaker, but who listens to music on the phone's speaker?) I use headphones, and I listen to music through those. And the 6P was **** even with mods (viper, dolby, .....) The pixel has the same DAC (digital audio converter) like the HTC10, which was famous because of that. And boy, does it sound good. The same music, same headphones, same mods, and the difference is night and day! Eargasm
Build: Just the most premium feel on a phone until now. It is sturdy. A little bit thick, but feels like it can't be broken. That Jerry guy on youtube bent the 6P in half like a piece of paper, but he couldn't bend the pixel. Only a little bit, so the the glass started to shift away from the housing, but it went back to normal when he released it. You could see his fingers shake, and going all white while he tried to bend it. Really. It feels premium. The metal, the glass, I love to hold it.
Screen: Now this is something I don't know. I own the small pixel, which is 5" and "only" full HD, but I must say the colors are much more vivid and the brightness is higher than it was on the 6P. I love the little screen though... It may vary on the pixel xl....
Battery: My god! I never tought this is even possible The small pixel has a 2700MAh battery, a lot smaller then the 6P's but man! I am an extreme user. Not playing but listening to youtube, twitter, browsing, listening to music through a ****load of mods, using at least 2 cpu cores all the time, using the camera, bluetooth/wifi/sync always on, auto brightness set to 50%.... The 6P was great, because I came close to 3hours of screen on time. I loved this. It was my first phone that I only charged once a day. But it was always empty at the end of day. The pixel? Same apps, same usage, same protocol all day, and it has half the battery at the end of the day. I can almost use it for 2 days. Okay, 1.7 days I have reached 7hours of SOT. it is usually 4-5 hours, but in some cases I can even go beyond that. During the night it drops 1%, or not even that.
Processor: I was afraid of the SD810 when i bought the 6P. I read all the articles, but said "**** it! It can't be that bad!". But it is It is ****. If the 6P had the SD820, or 821, It would be on the same level as the pixel, but with that crap, it is worse in energy efficiency, and performance. (and everything...) The SD821 is lightyears away!
Camera: I loved the 6P, because it took very nice pictures, even in low light conditions. I'm not a photographer, I know almost nothing about it, but when I shot my first pixel photo, I have **** my pants It's just awesome. In the dark, in sunlight, the colors, the sharpness, the details, there can be shades, and total sunlight on the same photo... Oh yes, and people who might know some things about photography, said that it is the best camera on a smartphone
Some small things that come with it: I know, it is not a good point, because you can enable it on any phone now, and even before, but google assistant is awesome And there is the unlimited photo/video storage, in original quality. Or that the support for the 6P will end soon, but you win an additional year with the pixel, because it is newer. The VR readiness.. And many many small things...
I wanted to keep the 6P, and I was angry at google when they announced the pixel with these prices. But now, I wouldn't go back to the 6P.. Never. The pixel is worth the damn high price. It is awesome already because it is damn fast. I love to use it. Sometimes I just turn it on, and open something just for fun, and because "maybe this will be the first time I see a lag, or stuttering, or something other than opening it in a damn moment", but it never happens. It just does it without any problems.
By the way, the community is also great, you have the same ****, PureNexus, RR, mods, same kernels (franco, elementalx), everything like the 6P, but I'm getting old, and in my experience, stock is always better then the things that are stuffed with "extra settings". Especially now, that stock android has multiwindow, and many great features from old times. I am only rooted because of tasker, titanium backup, and my music mods. The rest is stock.
It costs a lot of money, but it is worth all of it.. I would totally buy it again, If someone would ask me.
@gubacsek, Welll said, I couldn't agree more.
The Pixel XL is a stunning device, and I have no regrets switching from 6p.
Unlimited photo storage at full quality was an amazing bonus for me, as I take a ridiculous amount of photos and 4k video.
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I forgot to mention the battery life. The Pixel's battery life is probably the one thing that blows the 6P away. I actually get through a full day with battery to spare. That rarely happened on the 6P... even when it was brand new. I can get 6+ hours of SoT on the Pixel and was lucky to get 4 on the 6P. If battery life is the absolute most important factor when considering an upgrade, the Pixel is worth it. The battery life is equal to, if not better than, the iPhone 7 Plus. Pixel has longer LTE web browsing battery life while the iPhone barely beats the Pixel on WiFi web browsing. The Pixel wins or they are tied in every other category.
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Exactly...today i remembered that I bought 30000 mA power bank and i used to recharge my 6p 2- 3 times a day... With pixel... i totally forgot the power bank!!! Im using the phone on a single charge with average of 5.5 hours SOT from bed to bed time ?(7 am till 10 pm) which is hilarious
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So here is my dilemma, just playing with the 6P a bit and i love everything so far about it no issues as of now im still not a fan of AMOLED but its not as bad as i thought it would be but my biggest issue is the phone is massive I have small hands and im not sure I can ever get use to a phone this size, btw im coming from the M8
So I know the 5X is a plastic build, smaller battery and only 1 front speaker these are the things that matter to me but it has the same camera which is one of the main reasons I want to replace my M8
My question for anyone that has used both can you give me an unbiased opinion on speed of the 5X and battery or any other important issues. I just want to know if maybe i should give the 5X a shot
I have Nexus 5X and like it.
I have not used Nexus 6P and although it could be a bit faster, have more RAM or stereo speakers - the size of it is the problem for me. Aluminum is slippery especially if the phone is big and not comfortable to hold + more expensive. I am happy with Nexus 5X and and it completes my daily tasks just like any other flagship device out there. For you, I would suggest, to get 5X, but don't return your 6P just yet. Play with both and return one of them.
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So here is my dilemma, just playing with the 6P a bit and i love everything so far about it no issues as of now im still not a fan of AMOLED but its not as bad as i thought it would be but my biggest issue is the phone is massive I have small hands and im not sure I can ever get use to a phone this size, btw im coming from the M8
So I know the 5X is a plastic build, smaller battery and only 1 front speaker these are the things that matter to me but it has the same camera which is one of the main reasons I want to replace my M8
My question for anyone that has used both can you give me an unbiased opinion on speed of the 5X and battery or any other important issues. I just want to know if maybe i should give the 5X a shot
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I bought both and used them and decided on the 5X. The 6P outperforms the 5X pretty much everywhere. But the 5X feels so much smaller/lighter/better in the hand. I tried my best to love the 6P but in the end, it was just too big. The 5X definitely feels cheaper, but I kinda like that. In the end, I kept not looking forward to actually holding the 6P in my hands. As I wrote to someone else, holding the 6P was a bit of a chore. The 5X is plenty fast in performance, but not as fast and smooth as the 6P. Coming from my Galaxy S4, the 5X flies.
This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
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This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
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I had both for about a week, and now it's been a week since I returned the 6P. I must say I am not regretting my decision at all. Even things like hitting the fingerprint sensor are better on the 5X. And I must say I definitely prefer the LCD on the 5X to the amoled on the 6P. Movies are the only thing that look better on the 6P; everything else looks better on the 5X, as far as color goes. I did prefer the 6P with sRGB color enabled. If only the 6P was, like, 5.3-5.4 inches and not as heavy. Not only is the 5X easier on the hand, the thing is light as a feather.
Haven't used the 6p, however I'm coming from a 4.7 inch nexus 4, and I was always scared for a screen bigger than 5 inches, but after getting the 5x it fits very nicely and not as big as I thought
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I have used both for about a week each. My observations are as follows:
Battery Life - The 6P seems to last a fair bit longer than the 5X, for me at least. Even with the same set of apps on both the 6P lasts me a day whereas the 5X requires a top-up mid afternoon.
Screen - Personally I prefer the larger more vibrant screen of the 6P. The other advantage is that the UI seems a bit small on the 5X due to being scaled down compared to other 5.2" phones I have used like the Moto X 2nd Gen. Probably an age thing though, I never used to have a problem with smaller text!
Speed/Performance - Both are fairly fast and responsive, however the 5X tends to get bogged down for a few seconds from time to time. The 6P doesn't seem to do this.
Weight/Size - This is the killer for me. Although I prefer most aspects of the 6P it is just a bit too big to be comfortable in most of my trouser (pants for the Americans among us) pockets . It is worth noting that I didn't have any problem with the size of the 6P while in use - I could type fine one handed using a swipe keyboard.
As had been said many times elsewhere by other people, the phone I really wanted was a 5P..... Ultimately though I have settled on using the 5X for the moment, in the hope that one of the updates will help in the battery life stakes verses the 6P. The 6P just seemed like too much of a hassle to carry around.
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This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
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This is the exact reason I didn't even give the 6P a second thought. After owning the Nexus 6 for many months, I just never felt comfortable with it and ended up back on my Nexus 5. Using it was definitely a burden, especially on the go. I learned first hand that a 6" phone is just too big. I was never able to get used to it. Quite frankly, I don't see how enough people find it to be a good size, thus making manufacturers continue to build phones that big. 5.2" - 5.5" is the sweet spot. Any bigger is just too much.
I ordered both, and I'm returning the 6P
Main reason:
6P is too big, slippery and heavy making one handed use almost impossible.
Secondary reasons:
Pricey.
810 woes. I could feel it get quite warm, although not unbearably so. Again, with the cost in perspective, I would rather wait for a better processor in a 5 inch phone.
I really don't do anything demanding with my phone. I mainly care about the unlocked bootloader and good s/w support, which any nexus would provide.
I still get some mileage over 5, notably wifi calling and band 12 support for t-mobile when it arrives. Combined with the early bird google play promo, I think I paid pretty much the same price for pretty much the same phone, which is fine. I really like my 5, and I'll give it to someone in family. Also, for what it's worth, the 5x should hold better value than 5 since it works with all the carriers in the US, should you choose to sell it later.
I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
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I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
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My 5x has a barely noticeable tint near the bottom half, almost like a gradient on white displays but as you say most people probably wouldn't even notice it. I guess it's not just an AMOLED thing. I did an RMA but the replacement is completely yellow unfortunately, not sure if it's even worth trying again at this time.
My friend got the 6p and I got the 5x. No doubt the 6p is the more premium offering but in day to day use and holding the device the 5x wins hands down.
So I got my 5X today and love it. I will be returning the 6P. I will miss the slightly better performance of the 6P, the larger battery, and the better speakers, but I prefer the screen on the 5X (I'm an LCD and accurate color fan) and most of the experience is the same. Oh, and the camera cover glass on the 6P gives it really bad reflections in photos when the sun is out so I'm hoping the more standard looking lens cover on the 5X solves that.
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I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
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It has beaten my Moto x, lets see if its a repeat
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I have both the 5x and the 6p. My 6p has a pink hue I'm waiting for them to release the hold on the first one I returned and I'm going to get another. Besides having the pink hue on the 6p I love both devices for different reasons. I do find myself reaching for my 5x more just because it's more comfortable. I currently have my phone sim in my 5x and my tablet sim in my 6p. I do use both every day though.
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It has beaten my Moto x, lets see if its a repeat
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It is. Selling the Moto X. I heard so many complaints about the 5X being stuttery and slow, but those people must have defective units or a rogue app constantly running because I can barely tell a difference between the 5X and 6P, sometimes not at all. The 5X is no faster than the Moto X Pure, but scrolling and animations are much smoother.
I have the Nexus 5X and a co-worker of mine has the Nexus 6P which he allowed me to play with for a while. The Nexus 6P is just too big for me. One handed use and comfortable pocketabiltiy are high on my list. I did like the build quality and I prefer the more life like colors and deep blacks of an AMOLED screen(although I'm really happy with the Nexus 5X screen too). As far as battery it seemed to me that while browsing using Chrome the battery on the Nexus 6P dropped at about the same rate as my Nexus 5X with similar conditions and similar results in the battery details screen but I don't do a very accurate test so I can't say for sure but it seems that it's comparable to the Nexus 5X or maybe just a bit better which is what I would expect due to the much higher resolution.
Don't have 6P but N5X is definitely a welcome change in terms of weight and size after spending a year with Oneplus One. I never got used to 5.5" device and having weightless N5X puts it several notches above 6P for me. Besides, with encryption disabled this thing is plenty buttery, so no complaining here.
I've used both and I'm very undecided...
Display - Tie
Nexus 6P pros here are the bigger AMOLED screen. I'm typically an AMOLED fan over LCD and I actually like the over-saturated colors. That said, the LCD on the Nexus 5X is more accurate and has very even blacks (they are still gray compared to an AMOLED, but the screen doesn't have any bright spots/backlight bleed). Also, even though I know AMOLED screens have improved on this front I was still always worried about burn-in since it does start to get noticeable over time. It's nice to not have to worry about that on the 5X. I'd say it's a wash.
Audio - 6P
No contest here. My 6P had slightly imbalanced speakers so I ended up returning it but my wife's is very close to balanced. But even with the balance being slightly off the sound on the 6P is much better than the 5X. The 5X is actually worse than my Moto X 2014. Headphone output is about the same on both.
Performance - Tie
Haven't had any performance issues on either device. The 6P obviously has the faster processor but they're both "good enough" and neither lags in normal use.
Quality Control - 5X
Both 6Ps I've used have minor issues like the screen being seated improperly, the speaker balance being off, etc... The 5X doesn't have any minor imperfections like that.
Battery Life - 6P
No contest here really. The 6P has much better battery life both on standby and when actively using the device. The 5X is "okay" but I barely make it through a day of heavy usage (ie, when I was traveling yesterday) while the 6P can easily handle it.
Usability - 5X
Wasn't really sure what to call this, but the 5X's size just makes it easier to use with one hand. It fits better in your pocket, etc...
Camera - Tie
I haven't seen any observable difference between the two.
So overall I have 2 wins for each and the rest are ties. Obviously it depends on what you prioritize but it's making the decision very tough for me.
Just to follow up on my earlier post (quoted below) I have been switching between the two devices more often than I thought I would. While the size of the 5X is preferable to me the battery life just isn't working out as well as I had hoped, given the the same usage and apps on both (light to moderate usage).
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I have used both for about a week each. My observations are as follows:
Battery Life - The 6P seems to last a fair bit longer than the 5X, for me at least. Even with the same set of apps on both the 6P lasts me a day whereas the 5X requires a top-up mid afternoon.
Screen - Personally I prefer the larger more vibrant screen of the 6P. The other advantage is that the UI seems a bit small on the 5X due to being scaled down compared to other 5.2" phones I have used like the Moto X 2nd Gen. Probably an age thing though, I never used to have a problem with smaller text!
Speed/Performance - Both are fairly fast and responsive, however the 5X tends to get bogged down for a few seconds from time to time. The 6P doesn't seem to do this.
Weight/Size - This is the killer for me. Although I prefer most aspects of the 6P it is just a bit too big to be comfortable in most of my trouser (pants for the Americans among us) pockets . It is worth noting that I didn't have any problem with the size of the 6P while in use - I could type fine one handed using a swipe keyboard.
As had been said many times elsewhere by other people, the phone I really wanted was a 5P..... Ultimately though I have settled on using the 5X for the moment, in the hope that one of the updates will help in the battery life stakes verses the 6P. The 6P just seemed like too much of a hassle to carry around.
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I have returned the 6p and settled on the 5x. The 6p is a beast of a phone, speed, screen, build, etc etc. However, i just could not get personal with it. I am so much more happy with the 5x. A true 5 upgrade. Speed wise yes maybe a bit of difference, but im on my second day and its as fast as my 5 if not faster.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Only had the phone 3 days, but it has the most cohesive feel of all the Android devices I've owned, not as featureless as my Nexus 7, not over the top like my older HTC/Samsung devices. Switched to Nova Launcher, then switched back to Pixel launcher because it felt a better fit.
I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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I actually very much love this phone, I was expecting a lot to be hype, yet battery is good, cameras awesome see attached pics, and overall it's probably the best phone I owned in awhile, I was using an iPhone 5s, missed mu Android,. Operating system is fast and responsive and split screen multitasking is great especially with YouTube and chrome open
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I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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Im sorry but the 6P does not have a better camera. Coming from a 6P as well i agree with some of your viewpoints but the camera isn't a valid arguement. While the 6P camera is good its not at the level of the pixel.
I've used android phones, I've used iPhones. If this is what Google has to offer with its first Pixel phone I'm excited for Pixel 2 already. The camera rocks, love the quality of photos, the UI is intuitive and fast. Opening apps feels instant for me at least no delay. Have yet to see the device slow down. Almost elliminates the need to shy away from stock one can be hopeful that Verizon doesn't end up blocking depixel8 otherwise I may end up unlocking the bootloader if I see they do.
I use an Android and iPhone handset concurrently for work-related reasons. The Pixel is great, and compares very favorably with the iPhone.
Battery: I used to run all intensive apps like Waze and streaming audio through the iPhone, now I don't fear running them on the Android.
App switching: You know when you're chatting with someone and you look something up to further your discussion along? The Overview button double-tap for switching back and forth is so great.
Fingerprint reader: Is faster than the iPhone 6.
You can probably get a nearly identical experience with a Xiaomi or Oneplus phone without spending $650+. I remember even seeing one of the new Xiaomi flagships featuring the same camera sensor. But I hoped that the Pixel being was it is, it'll be a more bug-free experience.
I bought this phone expecting to not like it and sell it in a few weeks. It doesn't have an sd card slot or a removable battery. That's a pretty big deal to me. But I got the 128gb and started allowing Google to back up my pics. I can go 16 hours on the battery with 4 hours SOT. That's exponentially better than my MXP or pretty much any other phone I've used. I have grandfathered unlimited on Verizon so my choices are slim if I want root. Everything about this phone works very well. It's super quick and feels good in the hand. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with it.
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I adore this phone. By far my favorite phone I've owned (S3, EVO 4G, EVO 4G LTE, HTC M8, Galaxy Note 5, Samsung Fireball, LG V20, LG V10). The experience has been unparalleled for me.
It's a great phone, but not worth the price tag that comes with it.
I would consider this to be the "photographer's phone." It has a great camera and amazing EIS. As well as unlimited original photo hosting on Google Photos.
Did I mention it has UNLIMITED, ORIGINAL photo hosting on Google Photos?
Don't get me wrong, there could be better cameras out there, but you just can't beat that perk of having a Pixel.
As a long time samsung owner, this device is a breath of fresh air. If it were more water resistant, and had wireless charging, it'd be a perfect 10.
what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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what overall love for Power Users?
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ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
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So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into Tasker.
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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There's an app for the twist camera. Made by the same guy who made ForceDoze.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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Battery life is much better than comparable Androids devices. I've never had such great battery life, honestly. Interestingly, I had an M8 for a year and did NOT get close to 3 days (not even 2). Coming from an LG V20, V10, Note 5 and Note 7 (and watching my wife's S7), this battery life is tremendous. I literally don't ever pay attention to battery anymore. I go to bed with 30-50% usually. I just charge overnight (why not?) to be safe.
But yes, the sound of M8 was unparalleled. Why they quit on that feature I'll never understand.
Overall I am pretty happy with the Pixel. I don't like large phones so i am glad Google offered a smaller version. I used to have the Nexus 5x (still do) but the Pixel has been lag free. Anyone who has been using Google's devices long enough knows the thing starts to lag and the only thing to get rid of it is to totally format every so often. This has been running great so far so I am happy.
One thing I hope Google does not do is eventually become like Samsung or Apple where they totally lock down the device. The price point was already bad enough, but if the attempt to become mainstream to the point where the phone cannot be customized I will be very unhappy.
If they want to sell their product as "Pure Android", that should include customization outside of their OWN OS. Locking things down is no better than Apple or Samsung.
I bought the Nexus 6 right around launch. I loved the size of the phone and the speakers, but it has not aged well for me and runs quite slowly once I hit 50% battery. Apps like Snapchat are almost unusable at 100% battery.
The Pixel XL is hands down the smoothest Android experience ever. My first phone was a Droid 2 and I've always been an Android user. Never has a phone felt so fast and functional, and apps that didn't work well previously (Snapchat) are smooth as butter. The battery life is also great so far.
But for the price point, I expected more somehow. Firstly, coming from a Nexus 6, the phone feels so tiny! I didn't think half an inch would be that much of a difference, but I am still adjusting to even typing on a smaller screen.
I really, really miss the speakers. Why did they put the bottom firing speaker on the left? I know many people use the "pinky" grip on larger phones, and being right handed, I now block the speaker constantly. The right side has a similar grill that seemingly does nothing... why didn't they put it there?
My other complaint is the tactile buttons. I don't know if there's something wrong with my phone, but the power and volume buttons are stiff as hell in comparison to the Nexus 6. It goes beyond "clicky" to just purely annoying. I really have to grip the phone to press those buttons, and this design choice confused me as well. Has anyone else noticed this?
And then there's the "rapid" charging. Why does it take an hour and 7 minutes to charge from 66% to 100% when my Nexus 6 would take half that time or less?
I feel like I paid $120 more for a smaller phone with worse speakers and charging and buttons for better speed and operability. Then again, the Nexus 6 was also quite fast two years ago, and it isn't now.
I came from a nexus 6 also. In my opinion the only thing I miss from it are the speakers and little bit extra screen size . The charging I never noticed since my nexus 6 and pixel xl last me all say day so I just plug them in when I sleep. The thing that amazed me the most with the pixel was how much better the battery life is. With my pixel I get 6 to 6.5 hours of screen on time unlike my nexus 6 witch got about 4 hours with out mods, but on my nexus 6 with hells core kernel and a lot of mods to that kernel I did usually get about 6 hours of screen on time with my nexus 6. So now I can't wait for more kernel development on the pixels so I can try to get 10 hours of screen on time, but over all I'm don't regret upgrading. Also the price difference I can live with that. I pre ordered my pixel xl I got a free daydream headset and also the pixels come with a free 3 month subscription to Google play music so I can live with that .
Also to NOTE please don't try to compare your battery life to mine. Everyone's usage of their phones is different so your battery life may very!
I had the 6 as well and agree with clapper speakers and vibrate are my only complaint. As well I found the keyboard was more accurate on the 6 but that may be due to screen size. No regrets excellent battery life camera is outstanding performance top notch with nice exclusive features. When Allo integrates with SMS /google voice I'll be super stoked
I just sold my nexus 6 to a friend after getting the Pixel xl. I was sad to see it go but I love my Pixel. He was on a galaxy s5 and I was proud to welcome him to the nexus line with one of the best phones I've ever owned. He's had it 3 days and loves it. He's not a power user and isn't rooted or anything but is on Straight Talk and had no issues, just put the SIM card in and had data and everything.
Not super happy with the sound quality compared to the 6 and I've had horrendous Bluetooth issues with my scion tc. The Pixel is so snappy and the difference in display size isn't very noticeable. I feel like the color on the Pixel is brighter, but it looks less natural. I flashed the Pixel dialer awhile ago on the nexus 6 so I enjoy that on here.
Just can't wait for Xposed. *drools*
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I had the nexus 6p previously and wasn't sure if the pixel xl was worth an upgrade. Bought it anyway and well no regrets so far. Battery life is amazing, performance is top notch and overall build is solid.
I had a Nexus 6 before getting the Pixel XL. Without a doubt I miss the dual front facing speakers most. For the Pixel being an expensive flagship, I think the speaker placement was pretty poor. Other than that it is superior with battery life, performance and screen quality to name a few.
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I had the nexus 6p previously and wasn't sure if the pixel xl was worth an upgrade. Bought it anyway and well no regrets so far. Battery life is amazing, performance is top notch and overall build is solid.
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Battery and performance and camera speed are so much better than the 6p, wow.
The speakers are atrocious though. It may not really be worth the total cost of the upgrade from the 6p, but man do i feel good not worrying about missing shots with my camera or carrying a battery pack around.
Compared to the 6 though, it is well worth it. Actually being able to use the screen outside is amazing. I actually do miss the 6inch screen though.
Came from the Nexus 6 and overall display quality and brightness are much improved. I can now look at my screen on a bright sunny day and have no issues seeing the content. Well worth that alone for me
I loved my nexus 6, as to when I moved to the Pixel XL...
What I like:
* The camera is night and day better
* battery life is improved ( Does not matter to me much as I rarely had to charge is except at night.)
* I thought the finger print scanner was more of a gimmick... I take it all back I was wrong. I actually really like the fingerprint reader.
* faster
Cons:
* No front facing speakers (This actually bugged me more than I thought it would.)
* no wireless charging ( ya i am sure they will make a case that has it. )
* Mine is white... YA ya... colors... who cares its in a case.
That's it, while I didn't see the HUGE improvements, I have NO issues with my upgrade.
Like other said, came from Moto Nex 6 and only miss the speakers.
Love the fingerprint reader!
Screen is smaller but much brighter and the clarity is a tad bit better doing to being a higher DPI.
nexus 6p stocked sucked balls but with custom roms etc runs fine, pixel xl amazing stock can t wait to see what the devs have to offer.p
I had nothing but issues with my Nexus 6. I liked the design of it but for me it just seemed poorly implemented. I thought the 6p would never be beaten, but I was wrong. Love the pixel. I think I'd they could make the device a little more compact height wise and keep the screen the same it would have been perfect. I do agree the look of it is plain, but it's classy at least.
I'm on my first day with pixel xl from a Nexus 6. The first thing I noticed is how much nicer the form is on the Pixel. The second is that there isn't a big improvement in smoothness or speed vs the 6. I recently did a factory reset on the N6 so it's about as fast as I can expect. I liked the screen size of the 6 but grew tired of how awkward it was to hold and keep in my pocket. 5.5" is the right size. I hated the curve on the back of the 6.
The speakers on the XL are loud but so imbalanced sounding compared to the 6... big disappointment. Where pixel shines in function is battery life and the camera. In a side by side test I could take three pictures with Pixel in the time out takes to make 1 with N6. So a good upgrade even considering the speakers.
Came from Nex 6. Must say wasn't sure if I wanted to spend the money but very happy so far. Noticeably quicker ,better camera and battery. Enjoy g fingerprint sensor more then I thought. Biggest issue is speakers and wish the screen went all the way down instead of the dead space. But overall very happy
Came from N6, i loved that phone but even though it was a great phone, i dont miss a thing. Pixel XL camera is a huge difference, love the fingerprint reader and how fast this phone is, Google really wanted to make to this phone special and imho they did.
I don't see the big deal with the front facing speakers that most people complain about. I think the pixel didn't have them because of how the phone sits in the daydream vr. I would imagine that it would muffle the sound. The nexus 6 was one of my favorite phones I have ever had, and now the pixel has taken that place. I love the fingerprint scanner (Always thought it was lame lol) The phone feels better in my hands compared to my n6. I am currently returning the phone to stock and turning it in to Verizon for a bill credit. The camera is a million times better, I took a picture of my daughter using the daydream with my n6 and it just sucked lol
Another nexus 6 user that only misses the speakers. I really didn't notice the screen size change after a day of use and the phone is so much faster. The battery life is much better I can get double the screen on time. 2-3 hours on nexus 6 4-6 hours on pixel XL.
I came from the Nexus 6P and buy me the normal Pixel. I want a smaller phone with stock Android + newest Hardware and I don't regret it. On my Pixel I get like 7h screen on and on my Nexus 6-7h.
Just wanted to findout your thoughts those who've used oneplus 5t or the new oneplus 6. What are your day to day usage views and observations in comparison to the pixel 2 xl. For me first I immediately noticed the pixel does get warm as am on the latest beta. Android p is also definitely smooth and what I miss the most from oneplus is the dash charging that thing is quick. It's too early for me to comment about the performance changes between the devices so I would really appreciate your views around performance in particular thanks.
Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
EDIT: I really didn't notice much of a performance difference. I think the OP6 is a little faster but the Pixel 2 XL is smoother.
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Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.
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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.
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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.
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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.
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How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?
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How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?
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It's kind of annoying. Hiding it definitely helps. I think I dislike it more than the average person so take my annoyance with it with a grain of salt. One thing that did reaaaallly annoy me is because the status bar is on the notch, and theres no fingerprint gesture, pulling down the notification shade was always a little annoying because it's very high on the screen, definitely not possible with one hand if your hands aren't that big.
I've owned the following:
OnePlus 5
OnePlus 5T
OnePlus6
Pixel XL
I currently own the Pixel 2XL.
I loved my OnePlus 5 and regret selling it to this day because it would have been a great backup phone to keep around.
I Didn't like the 5T because it had some strange screen inconsistencies, and the vibration motor felt very cheap and "loose".
I got the OnePlus 6, and ended up returning it within 7-8 days. It was a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I will explain why I returned it:
The Camera
Probably the biggest reason. I don't know if it's because I'm spoiled with the 2XL's camera, but the 6's felt slightly below average.
The Notch
This didn't bother me too much as I am quite indifferent about it, however, losing the ability for centre clock is what bugged me.
The Vibration Motor
Similar to the 5T, the vibration motor feels very cheap and "loose" if that makes sense. Again, maybe I'm spoiled with the 2XL's vibration, but it is far more superior than the 6.
Development
I'm no developer by any means, however, I am aware that the introduction of the A/B slots causes for some challenging custom development. I had no idea the OnePlus 6 was going to follow this trend. I'm sure there will still be tons of custom development available for that phone, however, I would have preferred if it didn't have this A/B layout.
Price
In Canada, the device was roughly $890 taxes in, with a glass screen protector. Definitely not in the budget range, especially given the fact that I got my 2XL second-hand for only $750!
Speakers
Despite some speaker rattling issues and whatnot, the 2XL still has much better speakers than the 6. Front-firing and two of them instead of one automatically makes it much better.
I do miss Dash Charge though. However, charging times aren't extremely important to me as I'm always around a charger (two in the house, one in the car, and also have a 26k mah power bank).
The 6 did seem faster in terms of things like app launches (it spent less time on the splash screen compared to the 2XL). But that was about it; with my animation scale set to 0.3x, the 2XL feels just as fast.
I'm going to stick with my 2XL for the time being
Gonna purchase a used phone soon. Which one do ya think?? Pixel 2 xl or OP5t??
I had both phones.
In my opinion both are great phones with great performance. I had the 8/128 version on OP5T and it was blazing fast. But the camera was the thing i switched to Pïxel 2 XL.
Now i love it and to be honest i dont see much difference in performace. But i use it mostly for browsing, youtube and whastapp. And debugging my apps so i dont give it a hard time also.
If you have specific questions please let me know.
The camera of 1+5t is disappointed compere the pixel.
Beside that is a good phone.
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2xl if you want stay on stock rom and 5t if you want a custom rom...
Pixel is better anyday. You will get two more major updates. That should say it all
2XL hands down. Had a OP5, camera was garbage and gcam ports have a million problems on OP5/T. Front facing speakers, 1440p screen, ip67, better vibration motor (very important to me), more premium design, killer camera.
I had the OP 5T and it was rock solid. Very good batterylife for me, blazing fast and OP gives you Major updates and small updates regulary. Now i own a Pixel 2XL and so far its very nice and i Like it a Lot.
Pro's for the OP 5T:
Batterylife
Performance (2GB of more RAM are noticable imo)
Faster FP unlock + stunning fast Face Unlock
Pro's for the Pixel 2XL:
Much better camera
More premium feel (tho the OP 5T feels nice too)
Pixel Features (free Photos Upload etc.)
Always Up to Date Android (with still one more big Update to come at a Minimum and more then 1.5 years of Security Updates)
So all in all i think if i had to buy a new phone and they would have the same price i think i would go for the Pixel 2 XL again. If i could get the OP 6 or 6T for the price i think i would go with Them, because I really Like more batterylife and with gcam port you can get good Photos Out of their camera too and Performance is better
Hope i didn't forget anything.
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Pixel is better anyday. You will get two more major updates. That should say it all
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1+5t has a better screen, faster phone, major updates, headphone jack.
OP if you're considering a OnePlus phone I would go with the 1+6. I have that and a Pixel 2 XL. I'm always torn on what phone I want to use what day lol.
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daniel4653 said:
1+5t has a better screen, faster phone, major updates, headphone jack.
OP if you're considering a OnePlus phone I would go with the 1+6. I have that and a Pixel 2 XL. I'm always torn on what phone I want to use what day lol.
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I don't think so it has a better screen. Faster phone? By how many seconds? Does headphone jack even matters now??
100rabh7791 said:
I don't think so it has a better screen. Faster phone? By how many seconds? Does headphone jack even matters now??
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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Heck right now I've come back to the Pixel XL 2 from the OnePlus 6T. I added oneplus gestures so I could at least have that feature that I liked so much on the Pixel. It's been updated and works a lot better than before.
daniel4653 said:
Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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I'm not sure about 5t screen but yeah 6 might be better. The blue tint doesn't bother me or the black smearing as such. The grain is irritating though. My pixel never slowed down like yours though. Ah well it's debatable when it comes to 3.5mm jack. One plus will also move towards excluding it eventually, you still get an adapter? I've attached mine to my earphones if i ever need them. I use wireless almost all the time though.
I don't know there is something about pixel which no manufacturer can make you feel. The camera obviously is the best in the world. I think you will get more updates with 2xl than with one plus. Also Google will optimise it for pixel more for obvious reasons
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
devlamania said:
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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Oh come on now you are just exaggerating ... Battery life is better in pixel 2xl , but that depends on your usage as well. I don't see any stutters in my pixel 2xl so I've no complaints regarding performance either. Ram is a hardware and can't be changed, that's our conscious decision.
daniel4653 said:
Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room. Look closely at the screen and it looks "dusty". My panda slows down a ton when I'm updating apps once a week (about 50 updates on average) and if I try to play a game or open an app. The 1+6 and 1+5t on the other hand can take the same work load and still zoom by without a problem. For me headphone jack is really nice to have. I understand Manufacturers wanting to push people to buy their Bluetooth items, but why not give the consumer the liberty of choosing "hey do I want to use my 3.5mm jack or Bluetooth headset today?".
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Regarding the headphone jack, you are right: People who use it extensively probably won't touch a Pixel 2 XL. I personally have never ever used the jack on any phone I had, so it's a non-issue.
The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is a matter of luck: My phone is one of the first ones manufactured (in October 2017), and its screen was OK. I got a replacement screen after dropping my phone, and this one is much better. Hardly any blue shift and better colors (I was really surprised after the replacement!).
I have no problems with app updates, everything works fine. But I rarely game, so YMMV depending on your usage.
But the Pixel 2 XL has the best software I have ever seen on any phone, this is my first phone where I use the stock ROM as-is ( but with Magisk, TWRP and Substratum). It is rock solid, has a very good battery runtime and is super smooth. So I will stick to Pixels for the time being - this also is the first phone where I don't see a need for replacing it after 1 1/2 years.
If the Pixel 4 doesn't have some earth-shattering improvements, I'll stick with my 2 XL as long as it lasts...
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Oh come on now you are just exaggerating ... Battery life is better in pixel 2xl , but that depends on your usage as well. I don't see any stutters in my pixel 2xl so I've no complaints regarding performance either. Ram is a hardware and can't be changed, that's our conscious decision.
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It's a usage based comparison, not an isolated opinion. Besides, I didn't say Pixel 2 XL fluidity is "bad" I said OnePlus 5T is better and it definitely is.
devlamania said:
I have a Pixel 2 XL and my wife has OnePlus 5T.
So I know both. Literally.
If you want to take picture and fool people that it was a freaking DSLR, take Pixel 2 XL - it's unimaginably good for a phone camera.
If you don't care about taking photos "at all" - Take OnePlus 5T. Pure Android is a midget in front of Shaq O Neil when it comes to software experience in comparison to OxygenOS. It just cannot compete. Anyone who says otherwise, hasn't used both extensively. Whether it's battery life, fluidity, features, RAM - like is said, except camera, OnePlus 5T wins in everything.
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It's a usage based comparison, not an isolated opinion. Besides, I didn't say Pixel 2 XL fluidity is "bad" I said OnePlus 5T is better and it definitely is.
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That's what i said as well it's usage based but as a general comparison on gsm arena.. 2xl scores over 5t.
I never said that either but 2xl is at a point where you don't really care about the fluidity much because it's already very smooth. The animations may make it look a bit slow but if you disable them you've an equal experience. Who cares about something less than a second. Only the 3.5mm jack is an advantage
BabelHuber said:
Regarding the headphone jack, you are right: People who use it extensively probably won't touch a Pixel 2 XL. I personally have never ever used the jack on any phone I had, so it's a non-issue.
The screen on the Pixel 2 XL is a matter of luck: My phone is one of the first ones manufactured (in October 2017), and its screen was OK. I got a replacement screen after dropping my phone, and this one is much better. Hardly any blue shift and better colors (I was really surprised after the replacement!).
I have no problems with app updates, everything works fine. But I rarely game, so YMMV depending on your usage.
But the Pixel 2 XL has the best software I have ever seen on any phone, this is my first phone where I use the stock ROM as-is ( but with Magisk, TWRP and Substratum). It is rock solid, has a very good battery runtime and is super smooth. So I will stick to Pixels for the time being - this also is the first phone where I don't see a need for replacing it after 1 1/2 years.
If the Pixel 4 doesn't have some earth-shattering improvements, I'll stick with my 2 XL as long as it lasts...
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I've had 4 Pixel 2 XLs from September to December builds. The December ones are definitely better but still suffer from blotching at low brightness in dark rooms and have the grainy/dusty screens that I described earlier. I agree that the pixel has some of the best software since it's pure, but I still believe OnePlus had done a better job at software than Google from 1+6 onward. This is definitely not the 1st phone I've kept stock. You should give OneUI on a Note 9 a shot. It's unbelievably smooth as butter and the functionality of it is amazing.
At the end, to each their own. And it's true what you said that your milage and experience will vary. The one true reason I come back to the pixels is strictly the camera which is amazing. I will try to find a good offer on a Pixel 3 XL to see how much the pixel has improved with the SD 845
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A key concern should be software updates ..5t can't compete..OnePlus and all other non-pixels are in the milking mode,milk a new release to the max, when sales get slow release a new phone and forget about the older ones
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Yes, even the 1+6 has a better screen than the pixel 2 XL due to the blue hue and screen is bad if you have your brightness all the way down with nightmode on in a dark room.
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I agree. On my panda 2xl, which i got a month ago, the black crush and ghosting with low screen brightness is quite bad. At least disabling adaptive brightness "solves" the issue. Blue shift is minimal though.
With low brightness, even my old Galaxy S6 behaves much better than the pixel 2 xl. The op6 also uses a Samsung oled panel.