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I'd possibly go to a Pixel 2 XL

I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks

pbman1953 said:
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Ive been using Samsung for years. Started with the s3 then note3 then note5 and now pixel2xl.
So far pixel2xl has been great. The colors were a bit dull before the update giving us saturated colors, which fixed it for me. But other than that performance wise its a dream. My personal experience i have yet to experience studder or lag. Performance is the best ive ever experienced with any previous phone and the battery life is second to none. I average 8hr sot with watching YouTube, games, calls, internet.
The note3 and note5 were bought through Verizon so i haven't been able to flash roms or anything since my s3 and currently enjoying trying different mods and whatnot.
Overall this phone is amazing. Im not sure about the button to answer, as of right how it's swipe but could be a way to change that. If you get a chance to get this phone you won't be disappointed.

I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.

The pixel 2 XL was good enough to replace my note 8. And that's says a LOT! ?
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daviddem said:
I have Pixel 2 XL and performance is great but I'm leaning towards Oneplus 5t since I can buy 2 of it and performance is par to Pixel.
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That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good

Love my Pixel XL 2 better than my S8+

Reuben_skelz92 said:
That's not actually true. The pixel is actually smoother. I've had both. The pixel does have a smoother feel. Might be because of Oreo. And where I am the OnePlus is £499. And the pixel 2 XL is £699 with a free speaker. Do you couldn't even get 1 and a half OnePlus for the same price...saying you can get 2 for the same price is far fetched. I also wouldn't recommend switching. The OnePlus is a good phone for the price but it is a down grade and you will notice a few areas are not as good
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Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.

I've been a Samsung fanboy since my Samsung Galaxy vibrant with T-Mobile. I've had every Samsung Galaxy S phone up to the Galaxy s8+. I don't miss it one bit. I was on the fence for several weeks. I ordered it, cancelled multiple times because of all the bad press. I eventually pulled the trigger and bought the 64gb in black, but I forgot to get the premium coverage. So I returned it and got a 128gb. I don't regret purchasing this phone outright at all. To be honest. I don't think I'll go back. Not until Samsung comes out with something unbelievable. The way that I look at it. Samsung is like a Lamborghini or Ferrari of Android. But they can throw all the best parts, displays, whatever bells and whistles they want. But what good is a Lamborghini or Ferrari with a bad tune? Although the pixel 2 XL may not be the best looking device. It's tuned specifically for this phone and you can tell. Also, I sort of prefer the "natural" colors of this display. If you're going to look for issues, your going to find them in any device. But as for the phone calls. When somebody calls and your display is off. It will pop up a a screen with a circle. You can swipe up to answer the call, or down to ignore it. If your screen is on. A small box will pop up with the contact calling and you can take answer or ignore. I'll try to send some screen shots.

Some reason I couldn't update my previous post. But the attachments are what the call screen looks like from both perspectives.

Ive had my Pixel 2 XL for a week now and I have never had any lag/stutter even when syncing in the background. Battery is superb, 5-6hrs screen on time is easily achieved. Speakers are loud and clean. What can I say more about the camera? Camera is beast!
I used Samsung from S2 to S6 and there is always this delay/lag when opening apps. I guess its just the animation. I find Samsung chargers easy to have problems (slow charge). I am not sure with the S8 now. AMOLED is nice, but hurts my eyes. These are the reasons I went away from AMOLED to IPS LCD (pre-Pixel2XL). I was hesitant at first getting the Pixel 2 XL with all these display issues around it. But personally, the Boosted display settings is just right. I do not like the Saturated settings because it reminds me of Samsung. Too vivid for my liking. The Boosted colors are not washed out, people are just used to/spoiled seeing punchy AMOLED displays, looked unnatural.
As for your concern, a little adjustment when taking the call would be the best move.
So, if youre looking for a phone with the best performance, updates, camera, go get the Pixel 2 XL.
Display is subjective. For the missing headphone jack, im ok with it, they provide a c-3.5mm converter. Thats about it! Hopefully I have contributed something to your decision.

daviddem said:
Thats not true for USA. The pixel 2 XL 128GB cost $1000+ with tax and Oneplus 5t 128GB $550. At the moment I have both side by side and performance there is no difference.
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That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.

I've had a LOT of phones over the years, usually switching every 6 months selling off whatever I had to get the absolute latest, but slowed down once I got my OnePlus 3T... It's an AMAZING phone for the price. I was done with Samsung after the 6 series. That said, I went to the Google Pixel 2 XL instead of the 5T because of the dual front facing speakers as well as a few other Pixel only features and I do not regret it at all. The blue-shift isn't too bad once you adjust the colors a bit on the screen (I'm rooted and using EX Kernel / KCal).
My girlfriend has the Samsung S7 Edge and a few friends have the S8s and all want the Pixel 2 XL now after checking it out. It's hard to match the software experience you get on a Pixel device, that's for sure. You can't beat having dual-speakers on a phone, makes for daily use, hearing calls, music, watching videos all the better. I do recommend the 5T for those not worried about camera or dual-speakers as it's got a nicer out-of-the-box looking screen and is much less expensive to purchase, it's no slouch overall. In the end, the Pixel 2 XL was worth every extra penny for my use... make a list of things you need from a phone and see which works best for you as you're all that matters with your phone purchase. Our opinions aren't here to sway you away from what's best for you.

Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?

pbman1953 said:
Is is worth rooting since it comes so clean without bloatware compared to Samsung?
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Depends on what you want. For me 100% it is. Adaway, themes, terminal em, titanium backup, root browser.

Besides the themes, can you explain what the others are for

I've used Titanium when I had the note 4. I don't know how a root browser would be different

mlin said:
That doesn't seem to be true based on many reviews of OP5t performance vs the Pixel 2, even the very thorough review of the OP5t here at xda. Long story short: P2 offers a much more fluid experience than the OP5t and may even be a little snappier. The OP5t utilizes animation tricks to make the phone seem and feel snappier than it is and it's smoothness is nowhere near the level of the Pixel 2. Throw in the sub par camera, poor support and outdated firmware and it's no wonder they sell em for so cheap. Plus, it's $874 vs $550, hardly double.
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I agree. Saying it's double the price is an exaggerated. And I was surprised. When I was using the oneplus 5t my wife's pixel 2 did seem even more fluid and smooth
All the little things for me have been working better on the pixel 2 as well. I get better mobile signal...and sometimes the oneplus would refuse to turn on my mobile data so I had to restart it
The vibration motor is much nicer on the pixel
Screen is on par if not better in some areas on the pixel
Dual speakers. Amazing camera
Don't get me wrong the oneplus 5t is a great phone for the price but when you switch to the pixel you do feel the price difference in pretty much every area
..even in the small things

At this point I can't imagine going back to a non-Google phone. My first smartphone was a Nexus One and I loved it. I then went to a Galaxy S2 which was a piece of ****. Since then I have yet to see much improvement from Samsung software and the software from other phone makers isn't much better. I'm pretty much on an every other year cycle of whatever Google puts out because even if it isn't perfect it's still better than the alternative.

pbman1953 said:
I've been a Samsung user for years. My current , Note 5, is paid and was thinking about a Pixel 2 XL. First off, I'm not a big picture taker because I'm into performance over everything. Plus, like many, are sick of the Samsung bloatware. But The S8+ is a great phone and it has maintained a feature I like.
The feature is pressing a button to answer the phone. The menu button on my 5 does that now. Does the Pixel 2 have such a choice? I hate to swipe to answer. Call me spoiled but it's so much safer while drive to hit a button instead of a swipe. The S8 series has moved the feature to the volume up.
So if there are any Samsung converts out there I'd be happy to hear what you like or even dislike about the Pixel 2 series.
I've done the side sides on my Note 5 vs. s8+ and Pixel 2 xl but I want to hear from real users.
Thanks
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Can I add that the ambient display with time and date is soooo fine?
When notifications arrive, they're below the always on time and date.
Plus there's "what's playing now", showing artist and song name for whatever
you're listening to. These capabilities make this phone perfect for me.
Battery life does not seem to take a hit for this luxury.

The active Edge (squeezing it) allows me to turn on the torch with screen off, which is awesome. Like when getting my keys out at night. The phone is spectacular and I've had an s8+. It's my fav. You prob could map the squeeze to answer phone. But I know you could answer with push of a button. Just remap the fourth hidden nav button maybe.

Pixel 2 XL to OnePlus 5T

I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !

Paradoxxx said:
I was wondering if anyone made that move ?
I am considering doing so, however I'd like feedbacks from people that might have done that move.
Cheers !
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This is what i'm thinking of doing too. Might be worth buying one to test for yourself and send it back if you don't like the 5T? It'll be interesting to read others users thoughts on this.

Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Hey I love the 5T...the Pixel XL is junk, well, at least the screen is. It has issues no doubt. 5T screen is better IMO. Camera, obviously not as good. Neither has an external SD Card?!?!?! Why!!!!!
Anyway, for the money, 5T is hard to beat honestly. Dev support is descent, but not like HTC or Pixel/Google phones.
I had an S8+ for 1 day. Of course, since you can't root without breaking everything like Android pay and Safety Net...no thanks. The S8+ is a near perfect phone, but their abillity to allow you to unlock the bootloader and customize...is nonexistent. Got rid of it. I'm in the US, so the exynos won't work in this country which does allow bootloader unlocking...ridiculous.
I've been an HTC fan for 8yrs now. Just sold my HTC 10. The camera on this OnePlus 5 is better than anything HTC has produced ever. The camera isn't that bad. The OnePlus takes photos as good as my daughter's iPhone 7 Plus. And that camera is no slouch. In fact, head to head, my photos are often better with the 5T.
Anyway...I can imagine the 6 and 6T are going to be a pretty nice. Snapdragon 845 already confirmed for the 6 in a few months they claim it will be released.
Otherwise, I'm not personally dropping $800+ on a new phone no matter who makes it. Which rules Pixel, Huawei, Samsung whatever, and Def iPhone garbage out of the picture. I never spent more than $500-600 on any phone the last 8yrs. HTC resell is pretty good, plus I would wait about 4-6 months after their premier release version to buy it and it is discounted.
Also, my HTC 10 charge port started smelling like burning plaster and wouldn't charge. I had to send it back, and it could take 4 months for them to "evaluate" the burning in Taiwan, then send it back to Seattle, where they say they might not even replace it. They just want to examine it. It is under their uh-oh warranty...so don't know WTF they even care what has happened to it, they will give almost anybody a replacement phone.
Oh well...saw further below that you got the 5T and are keeping it. Version 6 will be out by end of March...so, take it from there. So far, really like the OnePlus...just wish it had a slightly better camera and an SDCard slot.

I was using a Pixel XL for a year and pre-ordered the Pixel 2 XL on launch day.
I got my Pixel 2 XL on October 18th and used it for 2 weeks and there were a lot of good things about it that I liked. It only had a few issues that I could not overlook:
The screen was of poor quality. I'm not talking about unsaturated looking, either. It had harsh blue shift that was impossible not to see in normal day-to-day usage. It also had very poor picture quality when used in a dark room at low brightness. Like everything was too dark yet bright parts of pictures were very bright. Like the contrast of the screen was junk. This was also apparent when viewing pictures at full brightness, but only if I held up my Pixel XL next to it and compared the two. Again, very apparent at low brightness, not as much at normal brightness. Since I like to use my phone at night in the dark, this was a huge pain point. I had no burn-in or noticeable grain in the screen. I was worried moving from a Pixel XL with a quality Samsung panel to a Pixel 2 XL with a questionable LG panel would be a problem, and I was 100% correct.
The battery charging speed. This was something that the Pixel XL wasn't very good at, and I couldn't even get 1% per minute. The Pixel 2 XL was in the same boat, slow charging. Even slower than my old S7 Edge with a larger battery!
These two things were just too much to accept with a $950 device. I returned it to Google for a full refund. Bought the 5T 128GB model on launch day and received it on Black Friday. The 5T has a good screen (like the Pixel XL) and the fastest possible charging option. I also saved like $400 buying the 5T so I got a PS 4 Pro with the extra cash. It's been the best decision I've made since buying the original Pixel XL which was a great phone.

vtwalk said:
Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Do you have some camera samples from your S8+ that you could replicate with the 5T and share them with us ?

vtwalk said:
Sorry, I moved from galaxy s8+. Other than the camera, I am loving it!
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Same here !

At first I got OnePlus 5T.. in this phone everything was great, except for camera. Camera is a complete disaster - I do not know how people can be taking decent pictures without optical image stabilization. In my case when you look carefully at edges - there was a blur. Tried many camera softwares - the phone simply can't take good pics without OIS. Based on rumors, OnePlus 6 doesn't intend to include OIS in the camera either. Which is sad, as camera modules are about $15 a piece.. likely OIS would be a few dollars more. So, in summary:
OnePlus 5T:
Pros:
- Everything about the phone, screen, performance, development community
Annoyances (not a deal breaker)
- Separate switch on the side of Do not Disturb, Silent, Loud mode. Why on earth this can't be done via volume keys (Mute -> Vibrate -> Loud) and perhaps few other modes?
- Fingerprint reader., especially in the middle of the screen. Mobile device makers are attempting to convince us that bio-metrics are safe, while even US government wasn't able to prevent breach of biometric data of its own employees..
- Mobile camera in the corner, not in the middle of the back panel - in place of a fingerprint. Sometimes camera is obstructed by fingers, perhaps it is just a matter of habit.
Deal breaker:
- Crappy camera with lack of optical image stabilization. No matter what software does via EIS - it is not the same
Outcome: OnePlus 5T returned.
Then - decided to get Pixel 2 XL, hoping that it would get better shots. What a disaster of a phone it is.. around 1,100 Canadian - that is on sale.
Pros:
- Perhaps camera, but in two days took some photos, they didn't look nice either
Deal breaker/disasters:
- Screen - non bright, cheap looking
- I also didn't like the curvy screen. No benefits, as the image is displayed on front of the screen, not on the curves. Only adds to ridiculous and unnecessary cost of the device.
- Screen edges - round. Maybe this is Google's "Style", but falls into a complete disaster category in my book. Even worse - initial version of the software had these roundish corners on top, and at the bottom had three white software keys on black background. Of course when the menu was on, lower corners were squared. When you look at combination of round above, and squared below - you feel like you are not seeing right, and time to visit a nuthouse.
- Even better - with the update to fix burn in issue - menu became lighter / grey color, with transparency - with white buttons. When you are hitting the soft buttons - your mind registers as if you are hitting background.
- Support.. Google won't admit that they include screen burn in issue as part of their warranty. But they do - it took > 10 minutes in chat with Google Support to squeeze out of them the simple confirmation that burn in is covered by the 2 year warranty. So if you are unfortunate to end up with Pixel XL 2 and can't squeeze the confirmation from Google - IM me, and I will gladly share the conversation transcript
- Even better.. when you tap on the phone while it is off (and on too) - it is making hollow sound in the middle, hollow surface is approximately 2./3 of the width of the phone (in the middle) and 3/4 of the phone vertically (in the middle). This gives a feeling of a very cheap and uneven device which doesn't feel solid.
Outcome: Pixel 2 XL returned..
But the phone is still needed.. I looked on Ebay - there are many brand new Nexus 5 and 5X for couple of hundred bucks.. Also, yesterdays hardware is dirt cheap brand new. E.g. Lg G4 is $120. Yes, G4s randomly die, not all of them can be rooted, but still.
Nexues run Camera NX.. Also, just realized, that before Pixels, Google used to publish their camera software without limitations to their own hardware. APK sites should have old versions of the software. When you are looking for older hardware, remember that Camera NX needs 64 bit CPU.
If you are still on the fence, good luck with the choice! And remember that if you do not need latest and greatest - you can get solid performers (models from a year or few ago) for 1/5th of their initial price.

You may consider the camera.

Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits

martinez5241 said:
Went from Pixel 2xl to 5t.
I miss the dual front speakers
I miss the camera
5t charging speed is insane
5t battery is amazing
Do I regret it, hell no.
5t is the tits
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Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?

Paradoxxx said:
Can you elaborate a bit more ?
How's the feel in hands ?
Is the screen that much a difference ?
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In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.

martinez5241 said:
In hand the 5t feels slick and lighter than the 2xl. The 2xl I had it without a case and was able to grab the phone a lot better than I could with the 5t without a case. That being said yes both phone have fallen from my hands or from my lap when I get out of the car. The 5t is able to take a hit better than the 2xl. The 2xl casing cracked, the 5t casing only has scratches. Also, ive actually dropped the 5t in the bathtub of running water as I watched better call Saul while showering. I did Grab it quick but it was fully submerged. Phone still works. Sweet.
Didn't notice much screen size difference.
One other thing the lowest screen setting isn't low enough when laying in bed at night time, you'll need to download an app to make it lower. My wife has the pixelxl, her screen goes much lower than mine.
I grew up Google fan from original Nexus to Nexus 6p, pixel XL, pixel 2 xl. In an attempt to sell my slightly damaged p2xl someone offered me this new 5t in box with $300 cash in addition. I figured why not... I'm glad I did.
I stopped flashing ROMs due to always coming back to original stock with magisk.
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Great, and regarding the screen quality / colors / contrast & black crush ?

I went from 5T to first gen. Pixel XL. Simply put, 5T camera is crap. I got a feeling that the problems with the camera wont never be fixed properly. If good quality photos are needed, I cant recommend the 5T.
Otherwise 5T is a great device and I liked it.

I'm switching from the 5T to a Pixel 2 XL (ordered with a good deal) just for the pure Android/fast updates and better camera. 5T is an awesome device specially for money.

5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.

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Great, and regarding the screen quality / colors / contrast & black crush ?
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Also came from the 2 XL and I'm not one to try every flagship on the market before deciding which one to keep.
I had exchanged the 2 XL for defects twice. From touchscreen issues to dead pixel clusters. I eventually decided the display wasn't worth the price of the phone.
The blue shift is way over blown. Two of the devices I received had it and one didn't. It's not something that bugged me or noticed in daily use.
What did bug me was horrible brightness uniformity and graininess. And between receiving 3 different devices there were massive variations in display quality (color temperature, graininess, digitizer response). So it seems like buying one is like playing the lotto.
I miss the camera and the front facing speakers (no where near HTC m7,m8, m9 quality but better than the 5t).
It's a nice phone but it's not worth $1k.

yung40oz84 said:
5T is amazing. The biggest and pretty much only downfall is the camera between this and pixel XL 2, and I personally am talking from coming from the original pixel XL, which camera was also better there. If you can get past the camera, 5T is the way to go.
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I came from an original pixel to the 5T, yes the pixel camera was better but imo some pictures look more natural looking with the 5T camera. I guess it's down to personal taste. Low light photos the 5T isn't as great as the pixel but it's still a good camera on the 5T.

I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.

chesstopher said:
I came from the 2nd gen Pixel and would not hesitate to recommend the 5t. The screen on the 5T has better color saturation and higher max brightness. Scrolling/smoothness isn't quite as good on the 5T, but it flies just as fast. Dash charge is insanely fast. The camera on the 5T can perform just as well as the Pixel under the right conditions but I wouldn't count on it for every point and shoot situation like you can with the Pixel. I snapped the attached pic a couple of week ago and thought it turned out great with absolutely no editing. The Google cases were cool, but the OnePlus Ebony wood bumper is the best I've had on a phone and now that there's a sandstone white variant, it looks just as good without a case. The biggest reason for me to switch to the 5T was the developer community. Since you're on XDA I would assume you're in to ROMs and customization which has already exploded for the 5T only a month or so in and for the Pixel is pretty well nonexistent. Phones are pretty much expensive toys for me and the Pixel was way more expensive, offered a great experience, but was ultimately way less fun.
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That's an awesome shot indeed, and a lovely looking dog
I think I've got a pretty rough idea of what I want in a phone, and sadly as of now, there is no such thing.
I'll probably be taking a 5T and see how I like it. I know the camera isn't gonna to be as good, but I've seen like every YouTube videos that exists on the subject in the past few days and I think the only way I can decide is to try by myself.
I will keep this thread updated when I'll be receiving mine if I indeed do take one, so that the people that are in such situation, having a supposed superb flagship and that are disappointed can find a bit of information switching to a supposed "worse" phone.

Anyone coming from either oneplus 5t or 6?your thoughts and views please?

Just wanted to findout your thoughts those who've used oneplus 5t or the new oneplus 6. What are your day to day usage views and observations in comparison to the pixel 2 xl. For me first I immediately noticed the pixel does get warm as am on the latest beta. Android p is also definitely smooth and what I miss the most from oneplus is the dash charging that thing is quick. It's too early for me to comment about the performance changes between the devices so I would really appreciate your views around performance in particular thanks.

Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
EDIT: I really didn't notice much of a performance difference. I think the OP6 is a little faster but the Pixel 2 XL is smoother.

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Had a Pixel 2 XL, got a OnePlus 6, sold it and now I'm back with the Pixel 2 XL. Things I miss from the OP6 are the display (mostly because of the black crush in most pixel 2 xl displays), dash charging and the headphone jack. Other than that the Pixel 2 XL is better in every way for me.
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Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.

marvi0 said:
Thanks so what things brought you back. Only had my pixel 2 a few days so still undecided thanks.
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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.

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Basically everything except for the three things I mentioned. Battery life was about equal and I couldn't really notice the improved 845. The camera and software are so much better on the Pixel. I also like the panda color way better than any of the OP6 variants. The notch also kind of bothered me. I'd say the only reasons for getting the OP6 are if you really care about the extra performance of the 845 like for playing games or something or if the price/headphone jack is really important to you.
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How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?

marvi0 said:
How bad is the notch is it very noticeable?
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It's kind of annoying. Hiding it definitely helps. I think I dislike it more than the average person so take my annoyance with it with a grain of salt. One thing that did reaaaallly annoy me is because the status bar is on the notch, and theres no fingerprint gesture, pulling down the notification shade was always a little annoying because it's very high on the screen, definitely not possible with one hand if your hands aren't that big.

I've owned the following:
OnePlus 5
OnePlus 5T
OnePlus6
Pixel XL
I currently own the Pixel 2XL.
I loved my OnePlus 5 and regret selling it to this day because it would have been a great backup phone to keep around.
I Didn't like the 5T because it had some strange screen inconsistencies, and the vibration motor felt very cheap and "loose".
I got the OnePlus 6, and ended up returning it within 7-8 days. It was a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I will explain why I returned it:
The Camera
Probably the biggest reason. I don't know if it's because I'm spoiled with the 2XL's camera, but the 6's felt slightly below average.
The Notch
This didn't bother me too much as I am quite indifferent about it, however, losing the ability for centre clock is what bugged me.
The Vibration Motor
Similar to the 5T, the vibration motor feels very cheap and "loose" if that makes sense. Again, maybe I'm spoiled with the 2XL's vibration, but it is far more superior than the 6.
Development
I'm no developer by any means, however, I am aware that the introduction of the A/B slots causes for some challenging custom development. I had no idea the OnePlus 6 was going to follow this trend. I'm sure there will still be tons of custom development available for that phone, however, I would have preferred if it didn't have this A/B layout.
Price
In Canada, the device was roughly $890 taxes in, with a glass screen protector. Definitely not in the budget range, especially given the fact that I got my 2XL second-hand for only $750!
Speakers
Despite some speaker rattling issues and whatnot, the 2XL still has much better speakers than the 6. Front-firing and two of them instead of one automatically makes it much better.
I do miss Dash Charge though. However, charging times aren't extremely important to me as I'm always around a charger (two in the house, one in the car, and also have a 26k mah power bank).
The 6 did seem faster in terms of things like app launches (it spent less time on the splash screen compared to the 2XL). But that was about it; with my animation scale set to 0.3x, the 2XL feels just as fast.
I'm going to stick with my 2XL for the time being

should i swap my Op6 for the pixel 2xl?

hey guys,i rly miss the FP pull down qs/notification features that were in most roms (on my prvious phone 6p) and that is not available for op6.
it just has tap features and it's wonky as heck, was wondering if that's available on the pxl2?
here's the headache, my op6 is the 128gb/8ram version and the swap deal is a pxl2xl 64gb pxl2 is 4ram only i guess?
but from what I've read it's almost the same in speeds with comparison to the 8ram op6 even with the snap835 vs the 845, anyways i rly like the design of pxl2xl but do you guys think i shouldn't swap?
how bad is the tint issue ? (i dont mind the blue tint thing)
I'm more worried about image sticking permanently onto the phone or banding type of things.

op 6 screen is gorgeous though not quad hd. display is vibrant and shows wider range of colors. the only downside of pixel 2 xl is the screen, not bad but i wish it was better. i kept my xl but flipped the op6 for s9+. in hand feel, look and overall xl is a better choice imo. hope it helps, cheers pal. btw the newer batch of pixel 2 xl has less issues with its display than before, check the production batch if possible.

I owned the 6 and ended up selling it to come back to my 2 XL.
The mic quality was horrible on the 6 and there was even one evening where I recorded a bunch of videos to find out the audio didn't even get recorded when I went to watch them the next day...
The vibration motor also seems cheap compared to the 2 XL and the camera is not as good either.
I also had lots of false fingerprint scans on the 6, whereas the 2 XL reads my finger accurately 99.9% of the time.
I'll admit though, the screen was better on the 6 despite having a lower resolution. Also, the additional RAM did seem to make a difference but I don't mind apps having to reload every once in a while on my 2 XL.
Overall, I definitely think the 2 XL is better, the storage size really depends on how much you need and if you think you can get away with 64 GB.
Finally, the Pixel 3/XL are going to be announced in October, just something to think about. Hope this helped!

Never had the opportunity oppo 6, but I rate my Pixel XL2 as one of my favorite devices Camera is incredible, great development, etc.!
Oh, and we don't have a notch!

galaxys said:
Never had the opportunity oppo 6, but I rate my Pixel XL2 as one of my favorite devices Camera is incredible, great development, etc.!
Oh, and we don't have a notch!
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Not yet! ?☝

Anyone upgrade from Oneplus 6 to Pixel 3 xl?

I currently own a Oneplus 6 but have always loved the Pixel line up. This year i was wondering if anyone who owns both or has made the change from the Oneplus 6 to the pixel 3 xl see a difference. Is it worth it to upgrade or just wait to see what the Oneplus 6t brings. I love the stock feel from the pixel and although the oneplus has a similar stock feel i still prefer the look and feel of the pixel maybe because of the better screen not sure. Any comments or comparison i can be pointed to would be appreciated.

I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick

I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.

Yeah I want to wait off a bit for the announcement. The thing about the oneplus that it makes the phone slow down is that I prefer the stock pixel dialer and Google messaging so I have to use magisk to get the dialer and the messaging app. But for some reason the messaging app hands and crashes. Also the streen I wish they would finally go to a quad HD since they keep raising the price. And now with no headphone jack rumor I think I rather go back to pure android. [​QUOTE=sn0warmy;77941493]I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.[/QUOTE]

sn0warmy said:
I have the OnePlus 6 and just got my Pixel 3 XL yesterday.
I'll start by saying that I do love the OnePlus 6. It has a great screen to body ratio, crazy fast finger print scanner and has been a great all-around device for me for almost 7 months. However, over the past couple of months I found myself missing the overall "Google" feel that my 2 XL and previous Pixel XL had. That and the subpar camera on the OnePlus 6, compared to my old 2 XL, left me wanting to get back into a Pixel. In fact, the only reason I initially went from the 2 XL to the OnePlus 6 was the horrible washed out LG screen on the 2 XL.
With that said, the only thing I truly dislike about my OnePlus 6 is the poor quality bottom facing speaker. Audio from the speaker sounds horrible at low or high volume and it's way too easy to cover it with your finger when using it normally. It's the one thing that has driven me nuts about the phone since day 1.
Since getting my 3 XL yesterday, I've noticed a few major things, right off the bat...
1) The 3 XL screen (made by Samsung) is noticeably sharper, crisper and brighter than the screen on my OnePlus 6.
2) The haptic feedback from the 3 XL is a major improvement to that on the OnePlus 6. It feels almost on par with the haptic engine in my old iPhone X, which was phenomenal.
3) The stereo speakers on the 3 XL blow that single bottom facing speaker on the OnePlus 6 out of the water. The 3 XL's speakers are still not quite at the level of my old iPhone X, but they are the closest I've heard on any Android phone.
4) I forgot how much I missed the feature for squeezing the phone to activate Google Assistant. It really is a great feature.
5) That "Google" feel that the pixel line offers is even more prevalent in the 3 XL than the previous two Pixel's I've owned. I prefer this.
6) Wireless charging. If you have never owned a phone with wireless charging, I highly recommend trying it out and picking up a couple wireless chargers. It really is a game changer.
At this point, since you haven't ordered a 3 XL yet, I may actually recommend holding out a little longer to see what the 6t has to offer. It's going to have a significantly smaller notch and possibly other improvements, as well. I was initially planning on waiting to see what features the 6t was going to offer, but as soon as the credible leaks pointed out that the 6t would not have wireless charging, I decided to go with the 3 XL, instead.
I hope this helps with your decision, one way or another.
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Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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MArtyChubbs said:
Nice review.
I lucked out with a late build of p2xl, so the display looked good with the saturated setting. Could you tell the resolution difference between the OP6 and the P2XL? P3XL?
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I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.

sn0warmy said:
I can't even compare the screens of the OP6 and 3 XL to my 2 XL, because the 2 XL's screen was just so terrible, in comparison. But comparing the OP6 and 3 XL, the resolution difference is sublte. It's there but subtle. Both look grea. You can just tell the Samsung screen on the 3 XL is just a tad more crisp/sharp.
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Agree

I did

micks_address said:
I had a one plus 5t, then Huawei p 20 pro and now 3xl. Your biggest upgrade will be the camera. No comparison between the Huawei or pixel camera to one plus, different league altigether. Oxygen Os is pretty clean and the One plus experience is very fast. You probably won't notice much of a speed increase. That said, Google integration is just cleaner with the pixel. I had few issues with one plus and p20 pro with Android auto and it just works with the pixel. Obviously you are doubling your investment so it depends how much your willing to spend. I got a good price for my p20 pro selling it on so got me well toward the price of the pixel.
Good luck deciding,
Mick
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How do you find your P20 Pro compared to the other two? What issues did you face
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My main issues with the p20 pro was updates are a little slow, also android auto didn't work as well. I had issues with screen being drawn incorrectly on car headunit. Couple of niggles with software in general and Bluetooth 4 on the p20 I found my Sony headphones would loose connection in crowded places. Otherwise screen, form factor etc were good. The camera is probably more natural on the pixel but not much in it. It's a pity the pixel doesn't have advanced face unlock as the notch is surely big enough to accommodate it. So far prefer the pixel. Also knowing Google certify everything in the pixel is a little reassuring. Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.

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... Who knows really what Huawei are running in their phones.
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I am sure they have your file in Beijing...

@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL

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@cherritaker I received my Pixel 3 XL on October 18th. I held onto my OP6 until I tested the Pixel. After a week of using the Pixel as my daily driver, I was very pleased with it. I have sold the OP6 now and am still very pleased with my Pixel 3 XL
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how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
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My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3

masri1987 said:
how much did you sell it for, was thinking of keeping it as a backup phone but meh?
Also
My experiences are this
Oneplus is faster at charging
better at doze (idle drain was stupid ridiculously low vs pixel 3xl)
and for one reason or another i'm getting faster LTE speeds on the OP6 where I live (can't figure out why yet)
Everything else is better on pixel 3
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OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%

lollyjay said:
OP6 8/128 mirror black and sold for US$477
btw my P3XL standby battery use is 0.78%
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what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .

masri1987 said:
what overnight? .78% per hour? what are you using? betterbattery stats to calculate this?
I lost a whopping 12% last night and i had the same apps as i did on my OP6... was wondering maybe if aggressive doze wasn't on as itw as on my OP6.
Also, i will put mine up for sale then. it's 256 matte black .
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My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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lollyjay said:
My old eyes... Standby battery use is 0.88% not 0.78%
I use EXKM battery monitor
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be

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Still much better than 12% overnight...
Also where is the option to allow pin screen to auto detect the pin entry without pressing enter
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I unplugged my phone from 100% 5 min ago and it's already at 98% lol
Should I trip about these things or just let it be
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How long have you had your phone?
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lollyjay said:
How long have you had your phone?
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Since Wednesday

masri1987 said:
Since Wednesday
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Probably will settle down after few more days
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