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Nexus 5x or 6P?

I'm so confused as to which nexus to pick. I like the screensize of the 5x but the specs on 6p are better. I want a high end phone but at the same time i don't want a phablet. What are you guys going for?

If you do not consider screen size when deciding which model to get you will be disappointed in the long run.

I'm going for the 5x. I have the moto 6 atm

I can't decide either. I prefer IPS LCD displays rather than AMOLED displays because the exaggerated colors on AMOLED displays!
In the other hand 6p has more battery capacity with lower screen size than N6! And a nice metal design! I don't care that much about their cpu/gpu or ram specifications.
Other thing is storage size, I need more than 32gb. I prefer 64gb with atleast a reasonable price.

I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. Otherwise I will stick with my 2013 Nexus 5 for another year. I need a device with a robust notification system and nothing beats a customizable light for that. I can tell from across a room what notification my phone has and at work that is priceless as I cannot continually be using my phone. The ambient display of the nexus 6 is not good enough. The notifications time out/turn off after a period of time and aren't customizable in any way.
The 6P is too big for me. It may as well be a Note or whatever.

Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/

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Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/
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I think you're pretty spot on here. I was hoping for a spec bump on the 5X as a excuse to Swappa out the M9 for a N5X, however it would basically be a spec downgrade at this point, or a spec match on the 6P, in which case, probably not worth the hassle. Guess I'll just be waiting until the next round of phones in Spring 2016!
Also, for the record, I've had very little issue with the 810's performance on the M9. There was a large update that worked towards mitigating some of the throttling, and the phone still has plenty of juice while warm. I wouldn't consider it a poor chip by any means, and do not let this dissuade you if you are set on a 6P!

I ditched my Nexus 6 due to its AMOLED display. My eyes were burning from its over-saturated colors.
But I now i want to go with 6P. I already spent quite a time with LG's N4 and N5. Huawei's turn.

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I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. .
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It has been confirmed that the 5X has an LED notification light, this was a big concern of mine too.
I really don't want a 6 inch (or 5.7) phone. i have the GS5 right now and still think it's too big. I have yet to own a nexus phone so i'm thinking purely based on screen size that i'll go with the 5X. Not too concerned about 2GB of ram, and i think the 808 will do just fine with vanilla M. I am bummed about no wireless charging, i added it to the GS5 even though it made the back quite bigger, but USB C will be nice.

I would've gone with the 5 if it had a 64GB and 3GB ram option.
The battery I think is fine since my current 5.7 QHD Moto X as a 3000Mah battery which gets bout 4hrs SOT so I think a 2700 on a 5.2" display should be fine.
The storage and ram really bothered me and it's shame for N5 users since it' barely an upgrade.
I did go with the 6P,I worry about the 810 since I also got a chance to use the OPT and wasn't impressed

I went with the 5X 16 gig. I stream everything (thanks Verizon unlimited) and really don't use a ton of apps. All my photos get instantly backed up to Google Photos so I can just delete them from my phone whenever.
Not even remotely worried about performance and any phone has a better camera than my Moto X 2013 that I use now. If I want really nice pics I'll bring my Sony point and shoot along.
I'm a short dude. I have no idea how I'd fit the 6P in my jeans pocket this winter. And I don't even wear skinny jeans.
The only thing I'm bummed about is the lack of cables that come with the phone. No C to A cable included AND the wall charger cable isn't detachable. Weak.

I really, really wanted to want the 5X. I love my Nexus 4. I like the LG company. But with $80 getting me another GB of faster ram, metal build, larger battery, faster charging, and (the big one) better graphics, I had to go with the 6P.
I wanted something N4/iphone 6 size though. If it's too large for me I will return it.

I went with 5X 16g as well. I have no need for extra space, I usually move my photo and video to NAS. As far as for music, I stream them online. LG is the company I trust since N4 to my current N5. A Chinese run company? I don't know??? Time will change my mind.

I went with the 5X because I currently have an LG G3 (which is almost the exact same size despite having a larger screen) and the screen size is at the limits of what I can use one-handed. The monstrous size of the 6P is just too big for me.

this is my first High end phone; i took the 5X 16Gio!
I took it because I thought is was more ecological than buying a Android phone, a Ubuntu phone and a FirefoxOS phone... The N5 couls run all these OS, I really hope the N5X does!
I am quite disappointed though, I thought it was a 3.1 USB port and thus could accept a keyboard and a screen...

Of course most of us want the highest spec'd device, that's normal. I want a more compact size phone (not phablet sized) and for it to perform the way I want (no matter what the specs are) with the latest greatest stock Google software updates. I want a good phone camera. I believe the 5X is the best choice. The 5X is going to scream

I don't watch movies listen to music or play games on my phone so the 16g 5x is plenty for me but I did order the 32g blue ice

One factor to consider in the US is that the 6P supports LTE band 30 whereas the 5X does not. LTE 30 is a new band supported by AT&T.
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yeah i ended up ordering the 5x but it is tough to cough up the money for it considering you get so much more phone in the 6p for a little bit more money, keeping in mind that the two are from completely different kinds of companies.
100% of my decision came down to size. I just dont think there is ever a need for a phablet.
I do wish the quick charge was better (i hear that the 6p quick charges much more quickly)
amoled makes more sense for ambient display which is a must for me coming from a moto x dev
and that 240fps video of the hummingbird is delicious
all the other stuff about storage is a non issue. This is what cloud services are for
and 2gb ram should be plenty. If more performance is needed, this needs to be done on the software side. its like worrying about horsepower in a car and ignoring weight.

I chose the nexus 5x. It was what we N5 users wanted on the first place. Just an updated N5, we kept on saying that we just need a better camera, and better battery and of course updated specs(but not the best), for only a little bit higher than the price of the original N5. If anything, google actually listened to their customers.
I think google screwed themselves over for releasing two phones at the same time, giving customers too many options creates anguish.
Question, if google only released N5x and you had no knowledge about 6p, would you still have your doubts?

Has anyone used both the 5X and 6P?

So here is my dilemma, just playing with the 6P a bit and i love everything so far about it no issues as of now im still not a fan of AMOLED but its not as bad as i thought it would be but my biggest issue is the phone is massive I have small hands and im not sure I can ever get use to a phone this size, btw im coming from the M8
So I know the 5X is a plastic build, smaller battery and only 1 front speaker these are the things that matter to me but it has the same camera which is one of the main reasons I want to replace my M8
My question for anyone that has used both can you give me an unbiased opinion on speed of the 5X and battery or any other important issues. I just want to know if maybe i should give the 5X a shot

I have Nexus 5X and like it.
I have not used Nexus 6P and although it could be a bit faster, have more RAM or stereo speakers - the size of it is the problem for me. Aluminum is slippery especially if the phone is big and not comfortable to hold + more expensive. I am happy with Nexus 5X and and it completes my daily tasks just like any other flagship device out there. For you, I would suggest, to get 5X, but don't return your 6P just yet. Play with both and return one of them.

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So here is my dilemma, just playing with the 6P a bit and i love everything so far about it no issues as of now im still not a fan of AMOLED but its not as bad as i thought it would be but my biggest issue is the phone is massive I have small hands and im not sure I can ever get use to a phone this size, btw im coming from the M8
So I know the 5X is a plastic build, smaller battery and only 1 front speaker these are the things that matter to me but it has the same camera which is one of the main reasons I want to replace my M8
My question for anyone that has used both can you give me an unbiased opinion on speed of the 5X and battery or any other important issues. I just want to know if maybe i should give the 5X a shot
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I bought both and used them and decided on the 5X. The 6P outperforms the 5X pretty much everywhere. But the 5X feels so much smaller/lighter/better in the hand. I tried my best to love the 6P but in the end, it was just too big. The 5X definitely feels cheaper, but I kinda like that. In the end, I kept not looking forward to actually holding the 6P in my hands. As I wrote to someone else, holding the 6P was a bit of a chore. The 5X is plenty fast in performance, but not as fast and smooth as the 6P. Coming from my Galaxy S4, the 5X flies.

This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.

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This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
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I had both for about a week, and now it's been a week since I returned the 6P. I must say I am not regretting my decision at all. Even things like hitting the fingerprint sensor are better on the 5X. And I must say I definitely prefer the LCD on the 5X to the amoled on the 6P. Movies are the only thing that look better on the 6P; everything else looks better on the 5X, as far as color goes. I did prefer the 6P with sRGB color enabled. If only the 6P was, like, 5.3-5.4 inches and not as heavy. Not only is the 5X easier on the hand, the thing is light as a feather.

Haven't used the 6p, however I'm coming from a 4.7 inch nexus 4, and I was always scared for a screen bigger than 5 inches, but after getting the 5x it fits very nicely and not as big as I thought
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I have used both for about a week each. My observations are as follows:
Battery Life - The 6P seems to last a fair bit longer than the 5X, for me at least. Even with the same set of apps on both the 6P lasts me a day whereas the 5X requires a top-up mid afternoon.
Screen - Personally I prefer the larger more vibrant screen of the 6P. The other advantage is that the UI seems a bit small on the 5X due to being scaled down compared to other 5.2" phones I have used like the Moto X 2nd Gen. Probably an age thing though, I never used to have a problem with smaller text!
Speed/Performance - Both are fairly fast and responsive, however the 5X tends to get bogged down for a few seconds from time to time. The 6P doesn't seem to do this.
Weight/Size - This is the killer for me. Although I prefer most aspects of the 6P it is just a bit too big to be comfortable in most of my trouser (pants for the Americans among us) pockets . It is worth noting that I didn't have any problem with the size of the 6P while in use - I could type fine one handed using a swipe keyboard.
As had been said many times elsewhere by other people, the phone I really wanted was a 5P..... Ultimately though I have settled on using the 5X for the moment, in the hope that one of the updates will help in the battery life stakes verses the 6P. The 6P just seemed like too much of a hassle to carry around.

biggolfer said:
This topic is very helpful. I currently have the 6p and trying to determine if i should return it and get the 5x. I love the 6p with a case on it but the size is my main complaint. It is fast and great for watching videos and browsing the web at home. Speakers and camera are good. I have a difficult time when I am active moving around or using in the car. It doesn't fit in my cup holder. I have almost dropped it a few times when trying to use one handed.
I am constantly thinking that I will be happier with smaller phone. My current phone is 4.7 inches.
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This is the exact reason I didn't even give the 6P a second thought. After owning the Nexus 6 for many months, I just never felt comfortable with it and ended up back on my Nexus 5. Using it was definitely a burden, especially on the go. I learned first hand that a 6" phone is just too big. I was never able to get used to it. Quite frankly, I don't see how enough people find it to be a good size, thus making manufacturers continue to build phones that big. 5.2" - 5.5" is the sweet spot. Any bigger is just too much.

I ordered both, and I'm returning the 6P
Main reason:
6P is too big, slippery and heavy making one handed use almost impossible.
Secondary reasons:
Pricey.
810 woes. I could feel it get quite warm, although not unbearably so. Again, with the cost in perspective, I would rather wait for a better processor in a 5 inch phone.
I really don't do anything demanding with my phone. I mainly care about the unlocked bootloader and good s/w support, which any nexus would provide.
I still get some mileage over 5, notably wifi calling and band 12 support for t-mobile when it arrives. Combined with the early bird google play promo, I think I paid pretty much the same price for pretty much the same phone, which is fine. I really like my 5, and I'll give it to someone in family. Also, for what it's worth, the 5x should hold better value than 5 since it works with all the carriers in the US, should you choose to sell it later.

I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.

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I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
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My 5x has a barely noticeable tint near the bottom half, almost like a gradient on white displays but as you say most people probably wouldn't even notice it. I guess it's not just an AMOLED thing. I did an RMA but the replacement is completely yellow unfortunately, not sure if it's even worth trying again at this time.
My friend got the 6p and I got the 5x. No doubt the 6p is the more premium offering but in day to day use and holding the device the 5x wins hands down.

So I got my 5X today and love it. I will be returning the 6P. I will miss the slightly better performance of the 6P, the larger battery, and the better speakers, but I prefer the screen on the 5X (I'm an LCD and accurate color fan) and most of the experience is the same. Oh, and the camera cover glass on the 6P gives it really bad reflections in photos when the sun is out so I'm hoping the more standard looking lens cover on the 5X solves that.

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I have owned two Nexus 6Ps. The first had a green tint on the top half of the screen and the second had a red tint on the top. Granted, they were minor, and the vast majority of people would never notice the tints, but I'm extremely picky when it comes to displays. I returned multiple Galaxy S6s earlier this year for the same reason. AMOLED screens just seem to have poor uniformity and so I generally prefer LCDs. So I ordered a 5x today and it already shipped. But it's going to have to beat my Moto X Pure (Style) if it wants to stay in my pocket. I'll share my thoughts next week after I get a couple days to compare to the 6P and Pure.
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It has beaten my Moto x, lets see if its a repeat
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I have both the 5x and the 6p. My 6p has a pink hue I'm waiting for them to release the hold on the first one I returned and I'm going to get another. Besides having the pink hue on the 6p I love both devices for different reasons. I do find myself reaching for my 5x more just because it's more comfortable. I currently have my phone sim in my 5x and my tablet sim in my 6p. I do use both every day though.
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It has beaten my Moto x, lets see if its a repeat
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It is. Selling the Moto X. I heard so many complaints about the 5X being stuttery and slow, but those people must have defective units or a rogue app constantly running because I can barely tell a difference between the 5X and 6P, sometimes not at all. The 5X is no faster than the Moto X Pure, but scrolling and animations are much smoother.

I have the Nexus 5X and a co-worker of mine has the Nexus 6P which he allowed me to play with for a while. The Nexus 6P is just too big for me. One handed use and comfortable pocketabiltiy are high on my list. I did like the build quality and I prefer the more life like colors and deep blacks of an AMOLED screen(although I'm really happy with the Nexus 5X screen too). As far as battery it seemed to me that while browsing using Chrome the battery on the Nexus 6P dropped at about the same rate as my Nexus 5X with similar conditions and similar results in the battery details screen but I don't do a very accurate test so I can't say for sure but it seems that it's comparable to the Nexus 5X or maybe just a bit better which is what I would expect due to the much higher resolution.

Don't have 6P but N5X is definitely a welcome change in terms of weight and size after spending a year with Oneplus One. I never got used to 5.5" device and having weightless N5X puts it several notches above 6P for me. Besides, with encryption disabled this thing is plenty buttery, so no complaining here.

I've used both and I'm very undecided...
Display - Tie
Nexus 6P pros here are the bigger AMOLED screen. I'm typically an AMOLED fan over LCD and I actually like the over-saturated colors. That said, the LCD on the Nexus 5X is more accurate and has very even blacks (they are still gray compared to an AMOLED, but the screen doesn't have any bright spots/backlight bleed). Also, even though I know AMOLED screens have improved on this front I was still always worried about burn-in since it does start to get noticeable over time. It's nice to not have to worry about that on the 5X. I'd say it's a wash.
Audio - 6P
No contest here. My 6P had slightly imbalanced speakers so I ended up returning it but my wife's is very close to balanced. But even with the balance being slightly off the sound on the 6P is much better than the 5X. The 5X is actually worse than my Moto X 2014. Headphone output is about the same on both.
Performance - Tie
Haven't had any performance issues on either device. The 6P obviously has the faster processor but they're both "good enough" and neither lags in normal use.
Quality Control - 5X
Both 6Ps I've used have minor issues like the screen being seated improperly, the speaker balance being off, etc... The 5X doesn't have any minor imperfections like that.
Battery Life - 6P
No contest here really. The 6P has much better battery life both on standby and when actively using the device. The 5X is "okay" but I barely make it through a day of heavy usage (ie, when I was traveling yesterday) while the 6P can easily handle it.
Usability - 5X
Wasn't really sure what to call this, but the 5X's size just makes it easier to use with one hand. It fits better in your pocket, etc...
Camera - Tie
I haven't seen any observable difference between the two.
So overall I have 2 wins for each and the rest are ties. Obviously it depends on what you prioritize but it's making the decision very tough for me.

Just to follow up on my earlier post (quoted below) I have been switching between the two devices more often than I thought I would. While the size of the 5X is preferable to me the battery life just isn't working out as well as I had hoped, given the the same usage and apps on both (light to moderate usage).
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I have used both for about a week each. My observations are as follows:
Battery Life - The 6P seems to last a fair bit longer than the 5X, for me at least. Even with the same set of apps on both the 6P lasts me a day whereas the 5X requires a top-up mid afternoon.
Screen - Personally I prefer the larger more vibrant screen of the 6P. The other advantage is that the UI seems a bit small on the 5X due to being scaled down compared to other 5.2" phones I have used like the Moto X 2nd Gen. Probably an age thing though, I never used to have a problem with smaller text!
Speed/Performance - Both are fairly fast and responsive, however the 5X tends to get bogged down for a few seconds from time to time. The 6P doesn't seem to do this.
Weight/Size - This is the killer for me. Although I prefer most aspects of the 6P it is just a bit too big to be comfortable in most of my trouser (pants for the Americans among us) pockets . It is worth noting that I didn't have any problem with the size of the 6P while in use - I could type fine one handed using a swipe keyboard.
As had been said many times elsewhere by other people, the phone I really wanted was a 5P..... Ultimately though I have settled on using the 5X for the moment, in the hope that one of the updates will help in the battery life stakes verses the 6P. The 6P just seemed like too much of a hassle to carry around.
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I have returned the 6p and settled on the 5x. The 6p is a beast of a phone, speed, screen, build, etc etc. However, i just could not get personal with it. I am so much more happy with the 5x. A true 5 upgrade. Speed wise yes maybe a bit of difference, but im on my second day and its as fast as my 5 if not faster.

Would you consider 5x an upgrade from a Galaxy S4?

Has anyone who has jumped from a Galaxy S4 to a Nexus 5X consider the switch an upgrade?
I am considering getting a midrange phone to last me 8 months until my next subsidized Verizon upgrade, I would insist on a replaceable battery for a phone being used for over a year and/or costing over ~$400, but the 5X looks usable at $329.
The specs look similar, and the 5X display is perhaps a downgrade, but I am sick of laggy S4 touchwiz, and it looks like installing CM on my baseband S4 will brick the phone.
I guess other options are the Moto X Pure or Nexus 6P but I have trouble reconciling spending even that much for a phone programmed to die by way of non-replaceable burnt out battery.

i switched from a 16GB S4 + 16GB SDcard to the 32GB 5X.
do i consider it an upgrade? yes, definitely. will i miss the SD-slot? maybe eventually. will i miss the removable battery? not if the battery does its job at least as good as the one in my S4, which still is almost as good as new (back in my S1 times i had to switch between 3 batteries).
as you already said, touchwiz just sucks and (imo) is ugly as hell. the nexus just runs so much smoother and doesn't come with all the bloat. the fingerprint sensor works perfectly and makes picking up the phone and actually using it quite a bit faster. rooting is easy, updates come quick, and i have a guarantee that i get those updates as soon as possible.
the camera is just amazing in comparison. the screen, while not being an amoled display does a great job and of course doesn't suffer from the movement shadows i had to deal with on the S4.
considering CM on the S4: well im one of the lucky ones who got his antenna fried, a bug that to my knowledge never got completely fixed or even fully acknowledged. the consequences being that cell reception was only ever acceptable on that one build.
i hope this helps. if it's worth to spend $329 on it for only eight months is entirely up to you.

The display is most certainly not a downgrade. OLED has come a long way in the last few years but the S4 generation OLED had subpar colour accuracy and brightness even for its day.
On the other hand the 5x IPS panel took the top mobile IPS panel spot away from the iPhone 6s which costs twice as much.
http://anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review/2
I really don't know what else to say about the Nexus 5X's display, because there's really nothing that can be criticized. I would certainly like if the brightness went up to 600 nits, but I would also prefer that it went to 6000 nits, and obviously that's asking a bit much. As far as LCDs go, the Nexus 5X has one of the best, if not the best that I've seen to date. At this point Google and their OEM partners are going to have to look to gamut as a vector of improvement, but only after proper color management is available at the OS level in order to avoid the problems that have plagued wider gamut displays, which have lacked suitable color management to properly map sRGB content into the wider color space.
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Thanks. Yeah upon more research it looks like the 5x is definitely an upgrade from S4, I thought I had seen some benchmarks somewhere that showed them to be similar, must have been the geekbench site, but phonearena's benchmarks show the 5x to be far superior to the S4 in both performance and display, and not far behind the 6P. I should have pulled the trigger at $80 off in November, guess I will have to settle for $50 off.
Only reservation now is non-swappable battery and I'd have rather seen 3 GB Ram and 32 GB storage base, but should be fine for 8 months to a year.

It's an upgrade even coming from my S5.
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I am coming from an SGH-I337 Galaxy S4 16gb. So far hardware wise it is an upgrade except for the screen. It has a very slight reddish yellow tint to it, not the crisp bluish white tint a galaxy has. Some people like it, I do not but I have heard it can be changed by rooting it. The only lag I have seen has been on websites with tons of graphics (slow to display pics when scrolling) other than that it is quick to move through screens and open apps. Have not tried any games. The finger print scanner is an awesome feature and works very well. I bought an unlocked N5X so it had nothing but bare bones Marshmallow 6 and it leaves a lot to be desired, if you were a custom to and used a lot of the apps that came with an S4 like gallery, memo, calendar, my files then you will need to find suitable replacements. The default keyboard in the messaging app has me all buggered right now, some genius thought it would be a good idea to put the microphone key right below the send key and for us fat fingered folks it is pretty much impossible to hit. I have not experienced any of the camera issues the N5X is notorious for yet, seems to run a little slow but nothing that is a show stopper.
Bottom line. Hardware is faster, screen is bigger with higher resolution, finger print reader is awesome, Marshmallow kind of sucks but that is my opinion, I bought it because it is a whole lot easier to root than the S4 and a whole lot easier to put custom ROMS on from what I have read. So far for me it is a trade off and the verdict is still out on whether I'm keeping it. Just wanted to offer my opinion because I know how much it sucks looking for a replacement with so many options avalible.

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Just wanted to offer my opinion because I know how much it sucks looking for a replacement with so many options avalible.
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My problem is the device I want if I am paying flagship prices nobody makes.
I want swappable battery, stock android, snappy performance, AMOLED, fingerprint sensor, high screen to phone ratio (small bezel). So the Nexus 6P with a removable battery, or a Note 5 or S6 with removable battery and stock android, or LG G5 with stock android and an OLED, etc etc... every device is missing something on my list.
Pulled trigger on the 5X yesterday, just have to set it up on Verizon when it arrives, also ordered nano sim cutter.
And in Fall 2016 I'll probably get the best 2016 phone I can that has a swappable battery and hopefully fingerprint sensor, probably the LG G5.

joelbnyc said:
My problem is the device I want if I am paying flagship prices nobody makes.
I want swappable battery, stock android, snappy performance, AMOLED, fingerprint sensor, high screen to phone ratio (small bezel). So the Nexus 6P with a removable battery, or a Note 5 or S6 with removable battery and stock android, or LG G5 with stock android and an OLED, etc etc... every device is missing something on my list.
Pulled trigger on the 5X yesterday, just have to set it up on Verizon when it arrives, also ordered nano sim cutter.
And in Fall 2016 I'll probably get the best 2016 phone I can that has a swappable battery and hopefully fingerprint sensor, probably the LG G5.
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Why order a nano sim cutter as opposed to simply going to a Verizon store to get a nano sim card for free?
But anyway, the N5X is definitely an upgrade over my previous S4. No question. Sure, it still has its quirks and bugs, but every phone does. Those aside, it's still a better phone overall. Especially for the price. The point made above about having a better IPS panel than the iPhone at half the price could be said for many of the features. When you think about it, it's quite impressive what you get for your money (by comparison of course).
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Why order a nano sim cutter as opposed to simply going to a Verizon store to get a nano sim card for free?
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Only $8 on amazon for aerb cutter and adapter, $4 more than the nano to micro adapter alone which I wanted anyway so I could save the S4 as a backup, and I kinda like diy projects anyway. Was pretty easy to cut.

I switched from a 16 GB S4 I9500 + 32GB SDcard to the 16GB 5X (take the 80$ rebate in NF)
Do I consider it an upgrade? Yes, definitely: More fluid, zero lag, Android 6.0.1 (+ Android 6.5 or 7.0 next Year), better battery optimizations, 4G LTE, Ambient Display (well, ocasionally), MAGNIFIC fingerprint sensor, easy to root/unroot, bye bye TouchWiz!
Will i miss the SD-slot? YES. 10 GB is not practical for store my MP3 Collection!
Will i miss the removable battery? yes, because I will have to resell my 5X in 1/2 years. With S4, a extra battery is only 8-15 $.
What I don't like from 5x?
- Poor speakerphone (very POOR) .
- MicroSD Slot, or 64 GB option
- USB-c port (I have to buy a USB-c to USB-a cable)
- Don't have earphones
- Poor devs support (for custom roms, Nexus 6P is more supported)

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It's an upgrade even coming from my S5.
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Yes, after just a day with it I can see this is true.
Display: Its great, no complaints whatsoever here, and coming from an amoled. The 5X colors do pop, just not quite in the radioactive way of galaxy amoleds. Colors are probably more accurate than an oversaturated amoled anyway, and I have an xrite calibrator eye if I want to mess with calibration.
OS: great, reminds me of my 2013 Nexus 7. No touchwiz, webpages load much quicker in chrome or firefox compared to S4. Nice to be back to stock android and know I can root easily if I want to. No problems popping in an activated cut down verizon sim either. Yet.
Fingerprint reader is awesome and a must for me on any mobile device going forward.
Performance seems just as snappy as the S6 floor models ive played with.
Got 1230 to 1290 single core and 3550 multi core geekbench 3. No noticeable lag yet. What sold me on the 5X other than xda was the youtubes where the guy opens a bunch of apps side by side on a 6P and 5X, there is one with a 5X vs S6 too, and the 5X does juuuust fine next to those.
Great phone, and at $330 i dont feel as cheated about non swappable battery as I would if I'd dropped $600 on a "flagship."
Oh and coming from an S4 i have no idea why reviews say the 5X doesnt feel "premium" or feels cheap. Anything but. The design is stylish and minimalist, and a case is going on anyway, but even without a case there is nothing wrong whatsoever with the industrial design and materials of this phone.
I do like the aluminum on my XPS 13 laptop, but whatever apple fanboy started the trend of 99% of tech reviewers saying every device that isn't 100% glass and metal feels "cheap" is nuts.

Yes it is a massive upgrade over the S4 which I still have one. In every way possible. The display on the S4 by today's standards is poor. The build quality is much better on the 5X.

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Yes, after just a day with it I can see this is true.
Display: Its great, no complaints whatsoever here, and coming from an amoled. The 5X colors do pop, just not quite in the radioactive way of galaxy amoleds. Colors are probably more accurate than an oversaturated amoled anyway, and I have an xrite calibrator eye if I want to mess with calibration.
OS: great, reminds me of my 2013 Nexus 7. No touchwiz, webpages load much quicker in chrome or firefox compared to S4. Nice to be back to stock android and know I can root easily if I want to. No problems popping in an activated cut down verizon sim either. Yet.
Fingerprint reader is awesome and a must for me on any mobile device going forward.
Performance seems just as snappy as the S6 floor models ive played with.
Got 1230 to 1290 single core and 3550 multi core geekbench 3. No noticeable lag yet. What sold me on the 5X other than xda was the youtubes where the guy opens a bunch of apps side by side on a 6P and 5X, there is one with a 5X vs S6 too, and the 5X does juuuust fine next to those.
Great phone, and at $330 i dont feel as cheated about non swappable battery as I would if I'd dropped $600 on a "flagship."
Oh and coming from an S4 i have no idea why reviews say the 5X doesnt feel "premium" or feels cheap. Anything but. The design is stylish and minimalist, and a case is going on anyway, but even without a case there is nothing wrong whatsoever with the industrial design and materials of this phone.
I do like the aluminum on my XPS 13 laptop, but whatever apple fanboy started the trend of 99% of tech reviewers saying every device that isn't 100% glass and metal feels "cheap" is nuts.
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God damn sir, well said. The phrasing at the end had me laughing lol. Good review from a more objective point of view opposed to the trolls lately.

jbdan said:
Yes it is a massive upgrade over the S4 which I still have one. In every way possible. The display on the S4 by today's standards is poor. The build quality is much better on the 5X.
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It's been only a couple days, but I'd probably pick the 5X over the Galaxy S6 so far, from what I've seen in stores. Especially if price is at all a factor, and maybe even if it isn't. My 5X is perfectly smooth, just the experience I was looking for. 1080P and stock android makes it perform better than QHD phones with bloatware.

I came from an S5 and I think it's a massive upgrade. I couldn't be happier with my purchase, personally.
The biggest things for me so far has been 1) Wireless ac (speeds are phenominal) and 2) no lag at all. I went through 2 S5's and both were laggy at times. I'm yet to see any of that with the 5x and I put it through its paces.
I think the camera output is much better, button layout is great (I had issues with accidentally hitting volume or power with S5's on both sides), and fingerprint reader is amazing.
I switched from Verizon to Project Fi last week also. Couldn't be happier with that as well. Going to cut my bill in half.
Luckily I haven't seemed to have any of the issues other are having here on the forums.

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The 5X colors do pop, just not quite in the radioactive way of galaxy amoleds.
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LOL radioactive is a pretty good description. So not natural looking when I compared with the S5 side by side.
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What I don't like from 5x?
- Poor devs support (for custom roms, Nexus 6P is more supported)
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This is not necessarily the truth. There are plenty of ROMs and kernels for Bullhead. Some teams, like mine, just do not release until everything is tip-top.

I have the 16gb tmoblie variant S4 w a 64 gb card, which still has 30 gb free so I really didn't need 64gb after all, the 32 I had was sufficient. It just leads to hoarding too much crap on my phone. I have almost 100 albums on it I barely listen to for example, and TB backups from 4 years ago of **** that isn't even in the play store anymore lmao...
I got the 32gb from the Google store because 16gb is an insult and should be illegal in 2015. Even if you don't have 1gb+ games it gets eaten up fast.
The one thing I love the most about switching is not having to fight with that damn internal memory card partition anymore. What the actual **** was that about anyway? Thank god for Link2SD...
The camera is a bazillion times better, and the FULL camera2 api is the icing on the cake.
I will say that I beat the absolute hell out of that S4 and the screen never broke. It looks like the dog chewed the edges but that's it. Time will tell if the 5X can withstand my butterfingers as well!

Another note, I installed Fleksy keyboard and added the number row so the on screen keyboard resembles what im used to with Galaxy S series, i dont like having to long hold or hit the 123 key to get to numbers.
Fleksy seems to use more ram than it needs though, so i might look for other options. Google keyboard with the PC layout and number row makes the keys too tiny.
Google should just add an option to include a number row in the stock keyboard.

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Another note, I installed Fleksy keyboard and added the number row so the on screen keyboard resembles what im used to with Galaxy S series, i dont like having to long hold or hit the 123 key to get to numbers.
Fleksy seems to use more ram than it needs though, so i might look for other options. Google keyboard with the PC layout and number row makes the keys too tiny.
Google should just add an option to include a number row in the stock keyboard.
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Would you change a Nexus 6 to get a Nexus 5x?

Hi, I have a Nexus 6 since a few years ago almost, and I think is time to change it, also, if I wait more time it will be hard for me to sell it at a good price. I've seen both the Nexus 6P and Nexus 5x, but I don't want to spend a lot of money when both devices does not seems to have a MAJOR difference, in a daily usage I believe the performancen is not drastically noticed between the two of them.
I like the fingerprint reader, due to my job's policies, I need to keep my phone with password, and that would make it more comfortable, also, the 6 cores processor, but is it true that the resolution is better in the Nexus 5x compared to the Nexus 6? the colors on the Nexus 6 are a little bit bright for my taste.
What about the camera? I've heard that is also better in the Nexus 5x. I would appreciate your comments, thanks a lot!!!

The camera has more features on the 6p (240fps, burst, EIS). The 5x is going to be a big change in size coming from the n6. I'm actually in the process of making the switch myself but my 5x doesn't come until thursday but it should be a big improvement in many ways but will be smaller and less ram the n6 will. I thought about getting the 6p having used one briefly but the price I paid for my 5x was just too good to pass up on.

I came from a Nexus 6. It was the right choice for me. Here are my personal findings.
Pros:
- Camera is a HUGE upgrade from the 6. I take pictures more often now because of it. I never cared for this feature at first but I find myself taking a lot of photos.
- Fingerprint scanner. I personally like that it's on the back as I take it out of my pocket and it's already unlocked.
- Way lighter than the 6. I actually like the weight of this device even though it may feel cheap to some.
Middle:
- Battery life seems to be roughly the same.
- Specs? However from my experience the phone runs really well. I am using PureNexus ROM and Xposed right now.
Cons:
- USB C? Since you're coming from a 6 you're going to have a change up your connectors which will be a pain at first.
- Speakers. They're not great but it's front facing at least and they have mods out there to support stereo sound using your audio jack and earpiece.
Can't think of anything right now but that's all I can think of coming from the 6.

Thank you both! Nexus 6P is not an option for me, I've been paying a lot for my previous phones, but now, I just want to get rid of my Nexus 6, without having to pay more than I want, mostly because the 6P does not offer a lot of options compared to the Nexus 6 and Nexus 5X, nothing really BIG. I used to have a Nexus 5 and I admit that I've always liked it more than the Nexus 6. So, in summary, the change of phones is a good option isn't? Thanks!

I would keep the Nexus6. The 6 is a nicer device than the 5P. Custom ROMs will keep it running nicely for the foreseeable future as well. Hell, even my N4 runs smoothly right now.
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Personally I didnt like the large size of the 6p but it was a decent phone. I returned it and got the 5x. Much more comfy to use and hold. So either is a good device.

Yeah, I get that, maybe it's because I really liked the Nexus 5 with the size + quality combination. and I don't see a big difference between the Nexus 6 and Nexus 6P to pay approx $500, while I will pay like $40 in difference if I get the Nexus 5x. Until the next phone with a major improvement shows up.

With a horse on a donkey, 6->5X. Price explains everything, but n6 is one year older phone.
6P only as a reasonable transition in my opinion.
Bad speaker, suspicious SoC & build quality, battery smaller capacity, 2GB RAM+64bit OS=extra ram management [emoji23] , free space memory... Overall quality of Motorola and LG phones....hmm
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nemanja066 said:
With a horse on a donkey, 6->5X. Price explains everything, but n6 is one year older phone.
6P only as a reasonable transition in my opinion.
Bad speaker, suspicious SoC & build quality, battery smaller capacity, 2GB RAM+64bit OS=extra ram management [emoji23] , free space memory... Overall quality of Motorola and LG phones....hmm
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Thanks for your feedback, and I get what you're saying, but the 6P is around 550 bucks on the web, and I don't feel like paying that amount of money for such small (in my own opinion) improvements over N6, while getting a N5X will be almost "free" once I sell mine; maybe it's just that I felt N5 was a better phone than N6 and the N5X feels like the same N5 with improvements. I might be wrong of course.
Regards.

I took an N5X since my N6 died on me.
I must say i'm very pleased with performance of it, and the size is very comfy too. (back when i had a Note 2 i thought it was too big, then went for Nexus 6 cause reasons?!)
I wouldn't buy an N5X over the N6 though, it seems like the pro's and con's rule each other out pretty much.
My verdict: Stay with your Nexus 6 as long as it serves you well. Cherish the awesome build they did on it =)

Mjuksel said:
I took an N5X since my N6 died on me.
I must say i'm very pleased with performance of it, and the size is very comfy too. (back when i had a Note 2 i thought it was too big, then went for Nexus 6 cause reasons?!)
I wouldn't buy an N5X over the N6 though, it seems like the pro's and con's rule each other out pretty much.
My verdict: Stay with your Nexus 6 as long as it serves you well. Cherish the awesome build they did on it =)
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Mr. Torque!!!! Sorry couldn't resist....cause....REASONS!!!
I just ordered the 5x for my wife to replace her G4. I might get one as well depending on how it attacks to my Note 5. I want to get the 6P though but we shall see. Have to cut monthly costs unfortunately.
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Thank you all for the comments and suggestions! I actually read some reviews about the Nexus 5X and it looks like it's not the best move to switch from N6 to N5X, mostly due to audio, overall performance, and phone design. I decided to upgrade directly to N6P knowing that it's going to be hard at this point to present something different in the next nexus phones, so I hope this one stays with me pretty much like N6 did. Thanks a lot guys!!!

I would, and I did. I went from Nexus 6 to OnePlus Two and now Nexus 5x. What a difference

Anyone else coming from the Nexus 6? How do you feel about your Pixel XL?

I bought the Nexus 6 right around launch. I loved the size of the phone and the speakers, but it has not aged well for me and runs quite slowly once I hit 50% battery. Apps like Snapchat are almost unusable at 100% battery.
The Pixel XL is hands down the smoothest Android experience ever. My first phone was a Droid 2 and I've always been an Android user. Never has a phone felt so fast and functional, and apps that didn't work well previously (Snapchat) are smooth as butter. The battery life is also great so far.
But for the price point, I expected more somehow. Firstly, coming from a Nexus 6, the phone feels so tiny! I didn't think half an inch would be that much of a difference, but I am still adjusting to even typing on a smaller screen.
I really, really miss the speakers. Why did they put the bottom firing speaker on the left? I know many people use the "pinky" grip on larger phones, and being right handed, I now block the speaker constantly. The right side has a similar grill that seemingly does nothing... why didn't they put it there?
My other complaint is the tactile buttons. I don't know if there's something wrong with my phone, but the power and volume buttons are stiff as hell in comparison to the Nexus 6. It goes beyond "clicky" to just purely annoying. I really have to grip the phone to press those buttons, and this design choice confused me as well. Has anyone else noticed this?
And then there's the "rapid" charging. Why does it take an hour and 7 minutes to charge from 66% to 100% when my Nexus 6 would take half that time or less?
I feel like I paid $120 more for a smaller phone with worse speakers and charging and buttons for better speed and operability. Then again, the Nexus 6 was also quite fast two years ago, and it isn't now.

I came from a nexus 6 also. In my opinion the only thing I miss from it are the speakers and little bit extra screen size . The charging I never noticed since my nexus 6 and pixel xl last me all say day so I just plug them in when I sleep. The thing that amazed me the most with the pixel was how much better the battery life is. With my pixel I get 6 to 6.5 hours of screen on time unlike my nexus 6 witch got about 4 hours with out mods, but on my nexus 6 with hells core kernel and a lot of mods to that kernel I did usually get about 6 hours of screen on time with my nexus 6. So now I can't wait for more kernel development on the pixels so I can try to get 10 hours of screen on time, but over all I'm don't regret upgrading. Also the price difference I can live with that. I pre ordered my pixel xl I got a free daydream headset and also the pixels come with a free 3 month subscription to Google play music so I can live with that .
Also to NOTE please don't try to compare your battery life to mine. Everyone's usage of their phones is different so your battery life may very!

I had the 6 as well and agree with clapper speakers and vibrate are my only complaint. As well I found the keyboard was more accurate on the 6 but that may be due to screen size. No regrets excellent battery life camera is outstanding performance top notch with nice exclusive features. When Allo integrates with SMS /google voice I'll be super stoked

I just sold my nexus 6 to a friend after getting the Pixel xl. I was sad to see it go but I love my Pixel. He was on a galaxy s5 and I was proud to welcome him to the nexus line with one of the best phones I've ever owned. He's had it 3 days and loves it. He's not a power user and isn't rooted or anything but is on Straight Talk and had no issues, just put the SIM card in and had data and everything.
Not super happy with the sound quality compared to the 6 and I've had horrendous Bluetooth issues with my scion tc. The Pixel is so snappy and the difference in display size isn't very noticeable. I feel like the color on the Pixel is brighter, but it looks less natural. I flashed the Pixel dialer awhile ago on the nexus 6 so I enjoy that on here.
Just can't wait for Xposed. *drools*
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I had the nexus 6p previously and wasn't sure if the pixel xl was worth an upgrade. Bought it anyway and well no regrets so far. Battery life is amazing, performance is top notch and overall build is solid.

I had a Nexus 6 before getting the Pixel XL. Without a doubt I miss the dual front facing speakers most. For the Pixel being an expensive flagship, I think the speaker placement was pretty poor. Other than that it is superior with battery life, performance and screen quality to name a few.

pokemon1996 said:
I had the nexus 6p previously and wasn't sure if the pixel xl was worth an upgrade. Bought it anyway and well no regrets so far. Battery life is amazing, performance is top notch and overall build is solid.
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Battery and performance and camera speed are so much better than the 6p, wow.
The speakers are atrocious though. It may not really be worth the total cost of the upgrade from the 6p, but man do i feel good not worrying about missing shots with my camera or carrying a battery pack around.
Compared to the 6 though, it is well worth it. Actually being able to use the screen outside is amazing. I actually do miss the 6inch screen though.

Came from the Nexus 6 and overall display quality and brightness are much improved. I can now look at my screen on a bright sunny day and have no issues seeing the content. Well worth that alone for me

I loved my nexus 6, as to when I moved to the Pixel XL...
What I like:
* The camera is night and day better
* battery life is improved ( Does not matter to me much as I rarely had to charge is except at night.)
* I thought the finger print scanner was more of a gimmick... I take it all back I was wrong. I actually really like the fingerprint reader.
* faster
Cons:
* No front facing speakers (This actually bugged me more than I thought it would.)
* no wireless charging ( ya i am sure they will make a case that has it. )
* Mine is white... YA ya... colors... who cares its in a case.
That's it, while I didn't see the HUGE improvements, I have NO issues with my upgrade.

Like other said, came from Moto Nex 6 and only miss the speakers.
Love the fingerprint reader!
Screen is smaller but much brighter and the clarity is a tad bit better doing to being a higher DPI.

nexus 6p stocked sucked balls but with custom roms etc runs fine, pixel xl amazing stock can t wait to see what the devs have to offer.p

I had nothing but issues with my Nexus 6. I liked the design of it but for me it just seemed poorly implemented. I thought the 6p would never be beaten, but I was wrong. Love the pixel. I think I'd they could make the device a little more compact height wise and keep the screen the same it would have been perfect. I do agree the look of it is plain, but it's classy at least.

I'm on my first day with pixel xl from a Nexus 6. The first thing I noticed is how much nicer the form is on the Pixel. The second is that there isn't a big improvement in smoothness or speed vs the 6. I recently did a factory reset on the N6 so it's about as fast as I can expect. I liked the screen size of the 6 but grew tired of how awkward it was to hold and keep in my pocket. 5.5" is the right size. I hated the curve on the back of the 6.
The speakers on the XL are loud but so imbalanced sounding compared to the 6... big disappointment. Where pixel shines in function is battery life and the camera. In a side by side test I could take three pictures with Pixel in the time out takes to make 1 with N6. So a good upgrade even considering the speakers.

Came from Nex 6. Must say wasn't sure if I wanted to spend the money but very happy so far. Noticeably quicker ,better camera and battery. Enjoy g fingerprint sensor more then I thought. Biggest issue is speakers and wish the screen went all the way down instead of the dead space. But overall very happy

Came from N6, i loved that phone but even though it was a great phone, i dont miss a thing. Pixel XL camera is a huge difference, love the fingerprint reader and how fast this phone is, Google really wanted to make to this phone special and imho they did.

I don't see the big deal with the front facing speakers that most people complain about. I think the pixel didn't have them because of how the phone sits in the daydream vr. I would imagine that it would muffle the sound. The nexus 6 was one of my favorite phones I have ever had, and now the pixel has taken that place. I love the fingerprint scanner (Always thought it was lame lol) The phone feels better in my hands compared to my n6. I am currently returning the phone to stock and turning it in to Verizon for a bill credit. The camera is a million times better, I took a picture of my daughter using the daydream with my n6 and it just sucked lol

Another nexus 6 user that only misses the speakers. I really didn't notice the screen size change after a day of use and the phone is so much faster. The battery life is much better I can get double the screen on time. 2-3 hours on nexus 6 4-6 hours on pixel XL.

I came from the Nexus 6P and buy me the normal Pixel. I want a smaller phone with stock Android + newest Hardware and I don't regret it. On my Pixel I get like 7h screen on and on my Nexus 6-7h.