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Should i switch from s6?

I am on the fence to get the G4. I love LG because I owned the G2 for the longest time and loved it. I dont like the G4 size (even compared to the s6 or g2).
I love the specs of the s6, but feel as if the G4 doesnt stack up.
I do love the fact I'd be able to root and flash roms without worry of samsung knox.
What are your guy's take?

Stick with the S6.

I have a S6 and my G4 comes today so I will let you know. I've had the G2 and G3 and the only reason I moved on was because the screen broke on the G2 and my headphone jack broke on the G3. Both of those happened from me being clumsy so it's not the phone's fault. I had a note 4 and hated the lag when opening recents menu or opening dialer/answering calls. Got a S6 and I keep experiencing lag with it as well. I'm very excited about going back to LG.

I had a few G3s (16GB models) and they all lagged like hell. I'm finding the S6 pretty smooth, aside from the occasional stutter in Chrome.
Took ownership of a brown leather G4 today and I'm not that smitten with it so far. Camera doesn't seem much better than the S6 at all - in fact it seems worse in many instances, and my camera sometimes shows a pink tint in the middle which the S6 doesn't (under the same scenes).
Overall I don't think it feels anywhere near as premium as the S6, nor as nice in the hand. The glossy plastic around the edges is disappointing as it will pick up scratches and scuffs easily and overall I just don't feel like I enjoy the size and shape of it like I do the S6. The screen also seems to have a wildly inaccurate white balance.
I like that I can stick an SD card in and that it has a replaceable battery but other than that I'm going to struggle to justify NOT taking this back to the store. I'm a bit disappointed to be honest as I've read really good reviews from some critics whose opinions I trust.
Will see what tomorrow brings but personally I'd say hold off for now, especially if you already have an S6.

If you guys already have an S6 and you still want to buy a G4 as well you have too much money.

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If you guys already have an S6 and you still want to buy a G4 as well you have too much money.
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No, I've had issues with all my s6 warranty replacements. So T-Mobile is letting me jump again. So im deciding if i should or hold out.

I used jump to go from the s6edge to the g4 mainly due to the battery life on the s6. Its God awful. Plus, i nuts some of the lg features. The g2 was the best phone I've ever had.
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blackangst said:
I used jump to go from the s6edge to the g4 mainly due to the battery life on the s6. Its God awful. Plus, i nuts some of the lg features. The g2 was the best phone I've ever had.
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I agree. The g2 was amazing! Great form factor, perfect screen size. Large battery
At the same time I do want a nicer premium device.
I just wished the g4 had the 810.. 808 doesn't seem impressive. If the G flex 2 had the 810 then why couldnt they tweak an 810 to perform better like they did 808?

tlxxxsracer said:
I agree. The g2 was amazing! Great form factor, perfect screen size. Large battery
At the same time I do want a nicer premium device.
I just wished the g4 had the 810.. 808 doesn't seem impressive. If the G flex 2 had the 810 then why couldnt they tweak an 810 to perform better like they did 808?
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Hardware limitations > software tweaking.

I'm on the same boat, have the S6 but considering the G4.
I know without question the S6 is the better phone. My only gripe with it is battery life. Battery life is abysmal, and if the G4 is a significant improvement then I'm all for swapping out to the G4.
I'm just holding off and waiting for what the feedback is on the T Mobile branded G4... But I have a feeling the abysmal battery life on all current flagship is Android 5.0.2. Which even the Nexus 6 suffered from bad battery life before it was updated to 5.1

Should I eat cupcakes or donuts?

If S6 a better phone ....stick it and stop trolling here. S6 like a tiny iphone 6 xD Life's Good.
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I have an S6 (4 days old) and now I have the G4 (leather). I would stick with the S6 at least that is my opinion after half a day with the G4. The G4 may grow on me, but most likely not enough to keep it over the S6. Biggest factor for my preference of the S6 is build and looks. I will probably end up keeping both though, not sure yet.
Price isnt a factor. Almost the same price.
64GB S6 memorial day sale plus 50$ mail in rebate = 629.99
Leather G4 = 599.00
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Both cameras are good. I prefer that when I quick open the camera on the S6, it doesn't auto snap a photo. That drives me nuts on the G4 and I can't find a way to turn it off.
I prefer the fingerprint reader wake over knock code or knock on wake. It's just better.
Screens are both good, but brightness and sharpness are better on the S6. I like Amoled vibrance. Screen size is nice on the G4 and I'm sure many people out there will prefer it.
I have 64 gb of storage on the S6 and I prefer internal storage over removable storage. Internal is faster. All my media and files are in the cloud so I don't need over 64GB. I still think SD is a nice bonus, but I would prefer a higher internal storage amount on the G4 over SD. I can see why sappable storage may attract others though. I just don't need it.
Battery life has been good for me on the S6. I average 4-5hrs SOT. Regardless of the S6's performance, the G4 comes with 2 swappable batteries and has a huge edge on the S6 in the battery department. This is the biggest positive for me regarding the G4.
Touchwiz beats LG's software in this instance. It's just smoother and better looking with more funtional features. Both phones software have occasional stutters, but LG has far more. It could be the 808 and the Exynos at play here, but I doubt it. That's not to say that some things arent better on the G4 (camera app), they are. Just not enough to sway my opinion.
No quick charger in the box for the G4 is silly. I don't understand that decision.

rogconnect said:
If S6 a better phone ....stick it and stop trolling here. S6 like a tiny iphone 6 xD Life's Good.
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I enjoy flashing roms, double tap to wake and rear buttons. And with expandable storage would be lovely! Just wonder if some things are worth the trade offs.
Will wait for more reviews and feedback.

It's all relative and a matter of personal preferences. Just choose what you think you want.

depends on why you want to switch

randpost said:
I have an S6 (4 days old) and now I have the G4 (leather). I would stick with the S6 at least that is my opinion after half a day with the G4. The G4 may grow on me, but most likely not enough to keep it over the S6. Biggest factor for my preference of the S6 is build and looks. I will probably end up keeping both though, not sure yet.
Price isnt a factor. Almost the same price.
64GB S6 memorial day sale plus 50$ mail in rebate = 629.99
Leather G4 = 599.00
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Both cameras are good. I prefer that when I quick open the camera on the S6, it doesn't auto snap a photo. That drives me nuts on the G4 and I can't find a way to turn it off.
I prefer the fingerprint reader wake over knock code or knock on wake. It's just better.
Screens are both good, but brightness and sharpness are better on the S6. I like Amoled vibrance. Screen size is nice on the G4 and I'm sure many people out there will prefer it.
I have 64 gb of storage on the S6 and I prefer internal storage over removable storage. Internal is faster. All my media and files are in the cloud so I don't need over 64GB. I still think SD is a nice bonus, but I would prefer a higher internal storage amount on the G4 over SD. I can see why sappable storage may attract others though. I just don't need it.
Battery life has been good for me on the S6. I average 4-5hrs SOT. Regardless of the S6's performance, the G4 comes with 2 swappable batteries and has a huge edge on the S6 in the battery department. This is the biggest positive for me regarding the G4.
Touchwiz beats LG's software in this instance. It's just smoother and better looking with more funtional features. Both phones software have occasional stutters, but LG has far more. It could be the 808 and the Exynos at play here, but I doubt it. That's not to say that some things arent better on the G4 (camera app), they are. Just not enough to sway my opinion.
No quick charger in the box for the G4 is silly. I don't understand that decision.
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You can turn the picture feature off and just double tap to bring up camera.
Fingerprint readers (from S5 at least) are horrible as you have to do it just right and it takes a little while
Weird, I've noticed the bright/sharpness is better on the G4. Just a matter of personal experience and opinion I guess.
Should never rely on cloud storage. Look how well that has worked out for Apple. The G4 can support up to 2TB of storage (even though the largest SD card is only 1/2 a TB). I would never trust non-removable storage, personal reasons.
Nothing to counterpart here (batteries)
I've heard the new Touchwiz has been better than the previous ones. I will find that out tomorrow when my wife gets her S6 setup. I personally am tired of it coming from several Sammy's. I believe the biggest issues is Lollipop issues messing with the phones rather than each UI. Nothing an update can't fix
Meh, that's nothing major.

Dennisg34 said:
You can turn the picture feature off and just double tap to bring up camera.
Fingerprint readers (from S5 at least) are horrible as you have to do it just right and it takes a little while
Weird, I've noticed the bright/sharpness is better on the G4. Just a matter of personal experience and opinion I guess.
Should never rely on cloud storage. Look how well that has worked out for Apple. The G4 can support up to 2TB of storage (even though the largest SD card is only 1/2 a TB). I would never trust non-removable storage, personal reasons.
Nothing to counterpart here (batteries)
I've heard the new Touchwiz has been better than the previous ones. I will find that out tomorrow when my wife gets her S6 setup. I personally am tired of it coming from several Sammy's. I believe the biggest issues is Lollipop issues messing with the phones rather than each UI. Nothing an update can't fix
Meh, that's nothing major.
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Changing that camera setting made the double tap camera feature much better. Is there any way I can activate with double tap camera from the homescreen? I've een playing with the camera in low light for a few hours now, and the G4 has proven to be much better in auto mode than the S6. I'm impressed.
The S5's finger print reader was terrible, as is the reader on my Note 4. The S6's reader is flawless for me.
You can't really compare brightness/sharpness if you don't currently have an S6 or had an S6 as you mentioned. (See bold) The S6 has a considerably higher brightness. That isn't opnion, it's fact and I believe that almost every flagship is brighter than the G4. Sharpeness is negligible though. Both screens are sharp.
When I was referring to the cloud = Cloud would be Play movies, Netflix, Google Play streaming, Hulu etc. Relying on those for media consumption doesn't seem risky to me. I save pictures with Google Photo's and One drive. Seems redundant enough to keep my pictures safe.
Everything is dependant on the user's needs and perception like other users have stated. I can see why someone would choose either phone depending on needs. The S6 just fits my wants/needs better. My oldest kid likes the G4 though, so It won't be going back to TMO now. We can retire his G3 instead.
I don't know if updates will fix everything with the G4. Updates never fixed the G3's stuttering (forour unit at least).
True, not having the Quick charger isn't a big deal especially if you already have a few laying around. I believe we have 4 or 5 of them in our house. Plus the spare battery really makes it useless. Still, I would have liked to have another anyway

Can you tell me if your G4 has a pinkish hue in the middle when you use the camera in low light with certain backgrounds? Seems more noticeable on grey or white backgrounds, and is not noticeable at all in normal light.

randpost said:
Changing that camera setting made the double tap camera feature much better. Is there any way I can activate with double tap camera from the homescreen? I've een playing with the camera in low light for a few hours now, and the G4 has proven to be much better in auto mode than the S6. I'm impressed.
The S5's finger print reader was terrible, as is the reader on my Note 4. The S6's reader is flawless for me.
You can't really compare brightness/sharpness if you don't currently have an S6 or had an S6 as you mentioned. (See bold) The S6 has a considerably higher brightness. That isn't opnion, it's fact and I believe that almost every flagship is brighter than the G4. Sharpeness is negligible though. Both screens are sharp.
When I was referring to the cloud = Cloud would be Play movies, Netflix, Google Play streaming, Hulu etc. Relying on those for media consumption doesn't seem risky to me. I save pictures with Google Photo's and One drive. Seems redundant enough to keep my pictures safe.
Everything is dependant on the user's needs and perception like other users have stated. I can see why someone would choose either phone depending on needs. The S6 just fits my wants/needs better. My oldest kid likes the G4 though, so It won't be going back to TMO now. We can retire his G3 instead.
I don't know if updates will fix everything with the G4. Updates never fixed the G3's stuttering (forour unit at least).
True, not having the Quick charger isn't a big deal especially if you already have a few laying around. I believe we have 4 or 5 of them in our house. Plus the spare battery really makes it useless. Still, I would have liked to have another anyway
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So you found the change setting? I'm not sure about the home setting. I currently don't have the phone until Monday (I've researched/read reviews about the phone and played with it in the store)
If they finally fixed the fingerprint issue, that's great! Just from watching the videos online I see you had to sorta long press the finger, rather than a few knocks on the scree. All a matter of personal preference which you like for this
I can compare this by Monday. Wife will activate her S6 later today and I'll be able to come back with this then! Do you have it auto-brightness or all the way up for both when you compared? In the store, the G4's seemed a tad better. I've seen the outside test (from numerous videos) when it's bright outside, the G4's was more superior being able to see better.
Ahh OK, miscommunication there! I still just prefer external SD. Can take out phone, swap between phones, tablets, computer etc rather than physically having to hook up and transfer/view.
I agree, everything is a matter of personal preference on these. I meant no harm or foul with you was just throwing my two cents back to your points! I will be able to properly tell by Monday the pros/cons of daily usage and everything between the two. I've always been a Sammy guy, this will be my first phone in years that's not them. I like to have BL's unlocked and being on Verizon, I have a 99.99% change this will happen on the G4 (as G3 was within a couple months) than I EVER will on the S6. One thing I might take some time getting used to is no physical "home" button as well as the other symbols for recents/back.

Nexus 5x or 6P?

I'm so confused as to which nexus to pick. I like the screensize of the 5x but the specs on 6p are better. I want a high end phone but at the same time i don't want a phablet. What are you guys going for?

If you do not consider screen size when deciding which model to get you will be disappointed in the long run.

I'm going for the 5x. I have the moto 6 atm

I can't decide either. I prefer IPS LCD displays rather than AMOLED displays because the exaggerated colors on AMOLED displays!
In the other hand 6p has more battery capacity with lower screen size than N6! And a nice metal design! I don't care that much about their cpu/gpu or ram specifications.
Other thing is storage size, I need more than 32gb. I prefer 64gb with atleast a reasonable price.

I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. Otherwise I will stick with my 2013 Nexus 5 for another year. I need a device with a robust notification system and nothing beats a customizable light for that. I can tell from across a room what notification my phone has and at work that is priceless as I cannot continually be using my phone. The ambient display of the nexus 6 is not good enough. The notifications time out/turn off after a period of time and aren't customizable in any way.
The 6P is too big for me. It may as well be a Note or whatever.

Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/

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Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/
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I think you're pretty spot on here. I was hoping for a spec bump on the 5X as a excuse to Swappa out the M9 for a N5X, however it would basically be a spec downgrade at this point, or a spec match on the 6P, in which case, probably not worth the hassle. Guess I'll just be waiting until the next round of phones in Spring 2016!
Also, for the record, I've had very little issue with the 810's performance on the M9. There was a large update that worked towards mitigating some of the throttling, and the phone still has plenty of juice while warm. I wouldn't consider it a poor chip by any means, and do not let this dissuade you if you are set on a 6P!

I ditched my Nexus 6 due to its AMOLED display. My eyes were burning from its over-saturated colors.
But I now i want to go with 6P. I already spent quite a time with LG's N4 and N5. Huawei's turn.

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I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. .
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It has been confirmed that the 5X has an LED notification light, this was a big concern of mine too.
I really don't want a 6 inch (or 5.7) phone. i have the GS5 right now and still think it's too big. I have yet to own a nexus phone so i'm thinking purely based on screen size that i'll go with the 5X. Not too concerned about 2GB of ram, and i think the 808 will do just fine with vanilla M. I am bummed about no wireless charging, i added it to the GS5 even though it made the back quite bigger, but USB C will be nice.

I would've gone with the 5 if it had a 64GB and 3GB ram option.
The battery I think is fine since my current 5.7 QHD Moto X as a 3000Mah battery which gets bout 4hrs SOT so I think a 2700 on a 5.2" display should be fine.
The storage and ram really bothered me and it's shame for N5 users since it' barely an upgrade.
I did go with the 6P,I worry about the 810 since I also got a chance to use the OPT and wasn't impressed

I went with the 5X 16 gig. I stream everything (thanks Verizon unlimited) and really don't use a ton of apps. All my photos get instantly backed up to Google Photos so I can just delete them from my phone whenever.
Not even remotely worried about performance and any phone has a better camera than my Moto X 2013 that I use now. If I want really nice pics I'll bring my Sony point and shoot along.
I'm a short dude. I have no idea how I'd fit the 6P in my jeans pocket this winter. And I don't even wear skinny jeans.
The only thing I'm bummed about is the lack of cables that come with the phone. No C to A cable included AND the wall charger cable isn't detachable. Weak.

I really, really wanted to want the 5X. I love my Nexus 4. I like the LG company. But with $80 getting me another GB of faster ram, metal build, larger battery, faster charging, and (the big one) better graphics, I had to go with the 6P.
I wanted something N4/iphone 6 size though. If it's too large for me I will return it.

I went with 5X 16g as well. I have no need for extra space, I usually move my photo and video to NAS. As far as for music, I stream them online. LG is the company I trust since N4 to my current N5. A Chinese run company? I don't know??? Time will change my mind.

I went with the 5X because I currently have an LG G3 (which is almost the exact same size despite having a larger screen) and the screen size is at the limits of what I can use one-handed. The monstrous size of the 6P is just too big for me.

this is my first High end phone; i took the 5X 16Gio!
I took it because I thought is was more ecological than buying a Android phone, a Ubuntu phone and a FirefoxOS phone... The N5 couls run all these OS, I really hope the N5X does!
I am quite disappointed though, I thought it was a 3.1 USB port and thus could accept a keyboard and a screen...

Of course most of us want the highest spec'd device, that's normal. I want a more compact size phone (not phablet sized) and for it to perform the way I want (no matter what the specs are) with the latest greatest stock Google software updates. I want a good phone camera. I believe the 5X is the best choice. The 5X is going to scream

I don't watch movies listen to music or play games on my phone so the 16g 5x is plenty for me but I did order the 32g blue ice

One factor to consider in the US is that the 6P supports LTE band 30 whereas the 5X does not. LTE 30 is a new band supported by AT&T.
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yeah i ended up ordering the 5x but it is tough to cough up the money for it considering you get so much more phone in the 6p for a little bit more money, keeping in mind that the two are from completely different kinds of companies.
100% of my decision came down to size. I just dont think there is ever a need for a phablet.
I do wish the quick charge was better (i hear that the 6p quick charges much more quickly)
amoled makes more sense for ambient display which is a must for me coming from a moto x dev
and that 240fps video of the hummingbird is delicious
all the other stuff about storage is a non issue. This is what cloud services are for
and 2gb ram should be plenty. If more performance is needed, this needs to be done on the software side. its like worrying about horsepower in a car and ignoring weight.

I chose the nexus 5x. It was what we N5 users wanted on the first place. Just an updated N5, we kept on saying that we just need a better camera, and better battery and of course updated specs(but not the best), for only a little bit higher than the price of the original N5. If anything, google actually listened to their customers.
I think google screwed themselves over for releasing two phones at the same time, giving customers too many options creates anguish.
Question, if google only released N5x and you had no knowledge about 6p, would you still have your doubts?

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG G5, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG G5 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Well, I hate this phone. Mine couldn't survive a 12" drop onto a parking lot without severely shattering the display.

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Well, I hate this phone. Mine couldn't survive a 12" drop onto a parking lot without severely shattering the display.
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Maybe it committed suicide as it no longer loved you.
You should have tried relationship counselling, but now it is too late.

Unrootable means un usable in my eyes. Plus the battery lasts about 6 hours.

Not sure why you can't use it without root, I am. And my battery last all day with 4G.
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Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.

LG G5 more hits than misses
Upgraded a number of family phones to the LG G5. I'm a bit old school and prefer simple flip phones. We would probably still be using Samsung Rugby flip phones if they worked with our carrier.
If you're in the market for a high end phone that's more than shiny, with lots of usable practical features and actually includes the latest available technology, consider the LG G5. We think it definitely has more hits than misses.
1. The 3 Cameras, make the phone one of the best camera substitute
2. Modern CPU (Qualcomm 820, currently top of the line) helps performance, battery efficiency, spectrum / wireless performance.
3. 4GB RAM useful for multitasking and running large demanding software
4. 32GB internal built in storage
5. Expandable storage with Micro SD (sorry Apple)
6. Miracast, industry standard screen sharing
7. IR Blaster
8. USB-C, the modern USB port the industry actually agrees and moving towards
(including devices from Apple, Google, Microsoft, LG, etc).
9. User removable / replaceable battery
10. Modular, and easy repair-ability
11. FM capable - enabled depending on carrier
12. A major phone brand / model thus more available accessories
13. Price point - best value for high end / flagship phone
Cons - what's missing that other devices may offer
1. Water / Dust proof - a nicety, and can be added to the LG G5 via certain cases.
2. Premium Metal / Glass feel - subjective. The LG G5 is all aluminum but covered in a primer paint. Besides, most folks I know use a phone case.
We have a number of mobile lines / phones within our family. Our last few phones have been Samsung, from Samsung flip phones to Android devices Galaxy T989D/S2X, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4. When we were up for replacements, we going to go with Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but it was no longer available, replaced by the Note 5. The Note 5 was more expensive than the Note 4. It was hard to justify paying more for a successor that included less than its predecessor - no Micro SD, no IR, no removable battery. Note 5 excluded usable practical features for a shiny exterior, and wasn't even water proof. We heard new phones were coming March / April 2016 so we waited and eventually decided on the LG G5. We believe it to be the best value, and offered the opportunity to award a vendor trying to innovate.
Ultimately it's just a phone, but at least it has the more important convergence features covered, mainly solid phone features, and solid camera.
** Unrelated, but its thanks to XDA community and other enthusiasts who help keep golden oldies such as the T989/S2X and Note 2 phones kicking. There's several Marshmallow ports for T989 and Note 2

LightJak said:
Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.
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Got a G5 (on AT&T) yesterday as a gift from my work and am coming from a Moto G with custom ROM's galore. The only thing I really miss is forward and back arrows in the nav bar for typing and Chrome Pie. Why pie controls aren't native to Chrome and requires root access is absolutely stupid.
Every other root function I used on my Moto G was to make up for the limitations of the device. No need now. Holy crap this thing is fast as hell and thanks to doze, standby is crazy. The SD 820 is an absolute beast of an SOC. And this is only my first full day on it. Going on a hike later today and can't wait to use the camera on this thing. So far I am very impressed with this phone.

Just received my EU h850 in the mail on Wed, already unlocked and rooted. No build quality issues at all.
Don't know why some are having battery issues. I easily get 24hrs of use with 5+hrs sot
That's with gaming,youtube, browsing,and Bluetooth
The screen uses much less battery than my Sprint g3...and even with custom everything on my g3 this phone performs sooo much better in everyway.
I think carrier branded g5 have a lot of bloat killing battery
Haven't heard a bad thing about unbranded h850 yet

Got mine from O2 in the UK and love my G5... O2 have put no bloatware on it at all and it therefore has good battery life. I have a G4 and the G5 flies compares to it (I loved the G4 too even though it had it's issues!). The only negative point is that getting a good tempered glass screen protector is going to be a nightmare as the screen is clearly quite flexible (hence the corner buckles etc) and so getting one to fit perfectly is going to be a challenge. Having said that, this is a very new phone, and all new3 models have odd issues (software/hardware), so if it becomes a problem then I'll RMA it to O2 or LG and get it swapped.

Hate some of the software tweaks, but this is a damn fine phone.

All in all, this is a pretty good phone. I'm really liking the wide angle lens and the fingerprint sensor. (This is my first phone with a fingerprint sensor)

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Got mine from O2 in the UK and love my G5... O2 have put no bloatware on it at all and it therefore has good battery life. .
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Same here and agreed... awesome standby time as well... My only issue with it is, I wish the screen and always on display were brighter outside and the overall volume was a bit louder, especially when using your own ringtones, like my G4. When I set up mine.. I didnt bother with the App drawer update, to me.. it was a new phone, new UI so I went for a bit of a change instead of copying my old G4 setup... made me feel like Ide actually bought a new phone.. and im finding it much simpler and enjoyable to use.
I find the UX5 much slicker and faster to use, more responsive and I can fly through tasks, OneNote and OneDrive.. Very Happy with my G5, also the 0.2" screen reduction makes no difference after a day or so

For the ATT G5 is there a way to save pictures/files/videos directly to the memory card or does that require root?

Love it. I'm not crazy about the design but a 2.5$ case makes it look badass.
Camera is outstanding, battery life is good (30 hours with 4 hours SOT , brightness is set to Auto, BT and NFC off).
The phone works fast and doesn't overheat.
I'm happy

Loving my G5 had it a few months now, bought the Spigen Rugged Armor case really nice, snug fit. Great camera, battery life & blazing fast, great screen, fingerprint scanner works amazing its really responsive, i was pretty surprised actually at how well the fingerprint scanner works .... Don't care for root to be honest, only thing i really liked about being able to root my old G2 was having AdAway installed. USB-Type-C is a god send especially in dim light.

Camera FTW
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Absolutely love this phone, and yes, I do sleep next to it . Everyone will have their own opinions, mine personally is this is a great phone. Love the camera, battery time is great (although having 2 batteries help), and finally a usable phone outdoors without having to really focus on the screen(very bright screen is what I mean). I would really love to have root, but I have patience, this nonsense of "no root no phone" kind of irks me but when you're spoiled you're spoiled.
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I also love the camera and settings provided on the LG G5. My only disappointment might be the capture time when using HDR mode. Aside from this, the video and picture quality is worthy of this benchmark phone, and the wide angle option adds a new enthusiasm for taking your phone with you on the scenic route.

From South Africa here. I have the H850 G5 as well, and no bloatware whatsoever. Battery lasts me a full day under moderate to heavy use (That does not include the camera). The auto-brightness is on point (but gets a little too low in a dark room to make watching videos or gaming comfortable). Battery charges fully in 28min from 1% whilst turned on. It's blazing fast. I have games in the background that I get back to hours later, and the memory never fails. Best phone I've ever owned.

I like almost everything about this phone minus the flimsy quality of the lcd quoting/Glass as its getting scratched very very easily, same is the case with back camera glass/visor.
Unfortunately, i wasn't using any screen protector earlier and i'd tried to clean the screen with a very soft microfiber cloth but to my surprise even that cloth had left some tiny hairline scratches. I couldn't believe my eyes at first but this was the fact sadly
I am not sure now if i can get rid of these scratches as i really love neat and clean phones.
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I upgraded from an S3 that had been in service since it's release and had never failed me. It just became a bit dated and the battery was due for replacement. I caught the G5 for $1 at Best Buy so I said what the hell. My first unit didn't last 12 hours before dying. However the replacement is on it's 4th charge/discharge cycle and is seamless. I hope that the first unit was just a fluke because this thing hums. I hadn't even tested any other phones since owning the S3 so the speed and fluidity of the G5 blows me away. I cannot wait for rooting capability to customize it even though the factory setup isn't bad and not as restrictive as others I have dealt with in the past. I am giving it 3 stars for now due to the DOA unit I first received though.
JD

HTC 10 vs Samsung S7

Hello, I have been a long time fan of HTC, and still use my One S from 2012. Back then the one series was the best in every department, the Samsung equivalent has was nowhere in sight.
Anyway time has finally come to upgrade, and looking at the reviews I am torn between the HTC 10 and Samsung S7. I know there must be plenty of threads on this topic, but I couldn't find any using the search, so please link if there is any. I created a list below, but I wanted the opinions of the owners to tell me if they are accurate.
HTC 10 Pros:
Unlocked Bootloader/Easy custom ROMS
Best Lite Android UI (Sense)
Use SD Card are Internal Storage
Boomsound and Audio Codecs
USB 3.0
S7 Pros:
AMOLED >>>> LCD
Camera??
Waterproofing
A lot has been said about the camera problems with the HTC 10, the latest update v1.51 was supposed to address the issues. Have any owners received the update and has it improved to match the S7? And I guess with further updates the camera can only get better...
But on the other hand, surely with time the S7 will become unlockable and easy to install custom ROM's? And if so I could easily install a better ROM with near stock android UI
Not sure what to decide. What do owners think of my list, do they agree with the things I have said??
Cheers

Well I have the S7 Edge and I decided to buy the HTC 10 because I was sick of all the issues the S7 Edge had, if that tells you anything.
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At the end of the day, both devices are more than capable, so I'm forced to be a little nitpicky and look at what I consider big cons for me that I've read about throughout my research on both. I do want the HTC 10 far more.
HTC 10 has been experiencing random screen issues, such as pink/yellow tints.
SG7 has been experiencing random pink tints, too, plus an apparent dead zone on the lowest point of the screen. I've also read about the camera glass randomly cracking/shattering. The entire phone being incased in glass makes me very nervous. A bump/drop could mean a shattered phone instead of a cracked screen.
Sadly, due to my wedding/money issues I'm forced to use my BestBuy credit to upgrade, so if the unlocked HTC 10 does not come to BestBuy, I'm forced into a Exynos G7.

I've got the TMo S7 and will probably switch to the 10 when it's available for Jump.
The S7 is definitely not a bad phone at all. I love the waterproofing on it and only have a few minor complaints. The speaker isn't great, probably takes a hit from the waterproofing. I get a lot of accidental touches on the edges of the screen from my palm when using it one handed. Lastly, the home button is pretty loud. I use my phone a lot in bed while my fiancée is asleep, and it just seems deafeningly loud (exaggerating a lot, but in a quite bedroom it is noticeable).
I haven't used an HTC device in a few years so I'm not sure how it will compare, but I'm looking forward to giving it a shot.

I went from a Note 5 to the HTC 10 (just look at my signature for order of devices...I have zero brand loyalty). Couple buddies of mine went to the S7E. Nice device, but just like the Note 5, forget modding it. To me it looks like a bigger fisher price phone. Flashy design, flashy bold colors, and absolutely zero customization. No thanks...never again. I would have went for a Nexus phone but I like the SD slot so HTC 10 was my pick.

Sammy Exynos versions are unlockable and have a dev community going. It's just the US versions that are locked down.
Sammy isn't as forgiving as GTC, though, and rooting and such will void your warranty.
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I don't have a preference between LCD and AMOLED, honestly. AMOLED has its strengths, but I like better color reproduction vs. saturation. This is, of course, a personal preference. And I'm pretty sure the 10's camera is aboooooouuuut as good as the S7's, especially post-update. Dxomark thought so, anyway.
I'd hate to inflame a useless Samsung vs. HTC flame war, but Samsung's button placement and UI make me want to smash their phones off of a concrete floor, douse them in lighter fluid, burn them, and fire them into the sun.

I'm on T-Mobile, and with the locked bootloader on the S7, I'm about to JUMP again to the HTC 10, personally. The S7 is nice if you don't care about rooting, but I'm too much of a tinkerer to do without. There's a workaround for adoptable storage on the S7, but it causes the reporting of the storage to mess up and display wrong information, which makes me wonder if that's why Samsung left it out. The cameras will likely be fairly even since the update, and honestly, I listen to music more than I take pictures, so the 10 is better suited for me. I also am not a fan at all of Samsung's UI, but I thought I'd be able to fix that with root.

I'm on T-Mobile as well and have one more Jump until June with Jump on Demand. I'm waiting for the 10 to hit their stores so I can make up my mind.
I obviously can't make a pro's and con's list since I don't own the 10 but I can make a list of what I'm worried about switching from the S7 Edge to the HTC 10.
1. Battery......I have gotten a taste of what 8 hours SOT and over a day of usage tastes like. After reading some posts regarding the 10's battery life, it looks like one area I'd regret.
2. Display.....Putting the AMOLED/LCD argument aside because honestly, I could care less what display technology my phone has just as long as it's a good display. What I'm worried about however is the size and brightness. I use my phone a lot outdoors and after reading some reviews, it looks like the S7E is much brighter in direct sunlight. In regards to screen size, I've been using a phone with a 5.5 inch + display for the past 2 years and feel like anything below 5.5in. will feel small.
3. Camera.....I love the camera on the S7E and as of right now, I believe it to be the better camera in most situations as of right now. I do think HTC will improve the 10's camera through updates but it still worries me.
If HTC would have built this exact phone around a 5.5in display and a 3600 mAh battery, it would have made my decision much easier. I like the speaker design and I love how they didn't skin Android's UI to death. Granted it doesn't really effect me too much since Nova is the first app I install on every phone.
I guess we will see what happens on the 18th when the phone hit's T-Mobile shelves.

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I'm on T-Mobile as well and have one more Jump until June with Jump on Demand. I'm waiting for the 10 to hit their stores so I can make up my mind.
I obviously can't make a pro's and con's list since I don't own the 10 but I can make a list of what I'm worried about switching from the S7 Edge to the HTC 10.
1. Battery......I have gotten a taste of what 8 hours SOT and over a day of usage tastes like. After reading some posts regarding the 10's battery life, it looks like one area I'd regret.
2. Display.....Putting the AMOLED/LCD argument aside because honestly, I could care less what display technology my phone has just as long as it's a good display. What I'm worried about however is the size and brightness. I use my phone a lot outdoors and after reading some reviews, it looks like the S7E is much brighter in direct sunlight. In regards to screen size, I've been using a phone with a 5.5 inch + display for the past 2 years and feel like anything below 5.5in. will feel small.
3. Camera.....I love the camera on the S7E and as of right now, I believe it to be the better camera in most situations as of right now. I do think HTC will improve the 10's camera through updates but it still worries me.
If HTC would have built this exact phone around a 5.5in display and a 3600 mAh battery, it would have made my decision much easier. I like the speaker design and I love how they didn't skin Android's UI to death. Granted it doesn't really effect me too much since Nova is the first app I install on every phone.
I guess we will see what happens on the 18th when the phone hit's T-Mobile shelves.
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You could run into a Verizon store and check it out. That's what I did as I was waiting for mine to arrive. I'm very satisfied with the 10. Only downside I've had is screen brightness outdoors.
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so buy oneplus 3 or nexus 6p ?

i want to buy new phone after nexus 4 so should buy one plus 3 or nexus 6p and why

Oneplus 3. Nexus is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't provide too many goods to make it worth the price.

Wait for the OnePlus 3T (to be announced this 15th november).
- https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/09/oneplus-4/
- http://www.techradar.com/news/oneplus-3t-launch-all-but-confirmed-for-november-15-launch

Demian3112 said:
Oneplus 3. Nexus is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't provide too many goods to make it worth the price.
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its quite the same price around 400$

ahmedvip2008 said:
its quite the same price around 400$
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The 64GB variant it €490 here.

ahmedvip2008 said:
its quite the same price around 400$
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Even at the same price I'd still recommend the OnePlus 3. It's more future proof in terms of specs and currently has one of the biggest communities of developers actively working on it. And even if you do decide to stick with OxygenOS, it's pretty damn close to stock Android anyways.

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Even at the same price I'd still recommend the OnePlus 3. It's more future proof in terms of specs and currently has one of the biggest communities of developers actively working on it. And even if you do decide to stick with OxygenOS, it's pretty damn close to stock Android anyways.
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so if the company stop supporting the device the developers will still support 6p is that also with 1+3
i have nexus 4 and dev still support it with android 7.1

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so if the company stop supporting the device the developers will still support 6p is that also with 1+3
i have nexus 4 and dev still support it with android 7.1
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ofc the only benefit of buying a nexus device is that google provides new android version half a year before any other brand and all other devices must wait till source gets released. but other than that the hardware is not good enough. if you are not into high performance games and want allways newest android version first then go for nexus. but you get better hardware for better cost if you go for oneplus ( buy oneplus3 t)

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ofc the only benefit of buying a nexus device is that google provides new android version half a year before any other brand and all other devices must wait till source gets released. but other than that the hardware is not good enough. if you are not into high performance games and want allways newest android version first then go for nexus. but you get better hardware for better cost if you go for oneplus ( buy oneplus3 t)
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Couldn't have put it better myself

I have both. There are a few things that may sway a decision. The 6P has nougat source and the available 7.X ROMs reflect that. This isn't a shot at anyone developing here, they just don't have it, or even a stock base to work with. If you like back fingerprint scanners you might lean toward the Nexus, if you're like me and don't that would favor the 3. Updates favor the 6 as mentioned already. The 3 is easier to handle without the massive bezels. The speakerphone through the 6 is very loud if need be and can be easily heard over background noise like a TV. In that regard the 3 is not bad at all but is outgunned by the 6 speakers.
For myself I was tired of keeping up two phones and wanted to move to a dual SIM. That combined with the fact that after several backside fingerprint scanners I'm starting to hate them the move was an easy one to make. I don't miss the 6P, it was and is a great device but the 3 is punching well above its cost.

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I have both. There are a few things that may sway a decision. The 6P has nougat source and the available 7.X ROMs reflect that. This isn't a shot at anyone developing here, they just don't have it, or even a stock base to work with. If you like back fingerprint scanners you might lean toward the Nexus, if you're like me and don't that would favor the 3. Updates favor the 6 as mentioned already. The 3 is easier to handle without the massive bezels. The speakerphone through the 6 is very loud if need be and can be easily heard over background noise like a TV. In that regard the 3 is not bad at all but is outgunned by the 6 speakers.
For myself I was tired of keeping up two phones and wanted to move to a dual SIM. That combined with the fact that after several backside fingerprint scanners I'm starting to hate them the move was an easy one to make. I don't miss the 6P, it was and is a great device but the 3 is punching well above its cost.
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what is the best screen for reading or watching videos

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what is the best screen for reading or watching videos
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if it was for reading and watching video content I prefer 6p. bigger screen, bigger resolution, dual facing speakers

I had the same dilemma, but couldn't get hold of a 6p so went for the op3. Awesome phone with new community builds coming thick and fast. I love mine :laugh:

Nexus 6p all day, every day. Better camera, better quality, better software better battery, better everything.

I think you forgot the hardware in nexus it's sucks
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Nexus 6p all day, every day. Better camera, better quality, better software better battery, better everything.
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Dude you can be a fanboy but don't lie... The 6P has a better camera, screen with dual front facing speakers and that's about it. The OnePlus 3 trump's it in battery life, it destroys it in absolute performance and is much quicker, has much more RAM that can be used without the processor overheating (S810 overheats like crazy, if someone says otherwise, they do not know what they are talking about). The OP3 doesn't snap in half like a cookie when bent, not to mention the fact that the rear glass over the camera cracks extremely easily. The fingerprint scanner is WAY faster on the OP3 Than the 6P. Camera in daylight is better but low light the 6P Is better, but the difference is surprisingly low. For OP, if you are any sort of power user at all and you do a lot of multi tasking or gaming for example, you will have to get the OP3 as the 6P slows down massive as the CPU goes from using the A57 core at 2.0ghz to not being able to use them and going to the garbage A53 cores to do the task which lead to lag and stutter. Not to mention when browsing the 6P is locked to the A53 cores because it'd overheat otherwise and because of this browsing is super slow. Last but not least, the OP3 beats it in audio quality outputted from the headphone jack, it's louder and has wider soundstage while sounding more crisp (you can really notice it in the base) and clean

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I think you forgot the hardware in nexus it's sucks
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why because processor ?!

Yes my nexus 6p here in Greece the summer easy frizz eggs
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Both dope phones boils down to (no pun intended) SD810 vs SD820 and fastest updates + source vs delayed updates + source
Personal preference really if updates matter to you go for the 6P if not will not be disappointed by the OP3

I had a 6P and switched to the Oneplus 3. I was sick of carrying an iPhone 6s for work and a 6P for my personal line. The dual sim capability is incredibly convenient but I would imagine not something that most people end up needing. Other than that here are my thoughts:
Speakers: 6P. If only for the placement. Maybe I am holding it wrong but I always seem to cover up my speaker when holding the phone in landscape mode. It sounds just fine otherwise. Most of the time I use earbuds anyway.
Camera: Tie. No real world difference for me. Both are great.
Fingerprint Sensor: OP3. Location is better when it's sitting on my desk, screen side up. It is also much faster than the 6P.
Buttons: OP3. I HATED the volume rocker location on the 6P. I was constantly changing volume when holding the phone in portrait mode and typing or whatever. This really annoyed the sh!t out of me. Also having the volume buttons on the opposite side of of the power button is better in my opinion. The notification slider is convenient, too.
Signal Strength: OP3 easily. I have a T-Mobile sim in sim1 and Verizon in sim2. The reception on T-Mobile sim is certainly better on the OP3. Not the case with the Verizon sim because of band compatability.
Feel: OP3. This thing feels more premium than the 6P...if that matters to you. It's also easier to hold.
Software: 6P. For the speed and guarantee of updates but OP3 Nougat will make this a tie. Nova Launcher though. And I don't care for rooting and ROMs anymore.
Screen: 6P? Yes it's more clear but really the OP3 screen is all I need in terms of size and resolutionw. One thing the 6P has going for it though is a totally flat screen. This makes screen protectors easier to apply without the ring around the edges.
Battery: OP3. Probably due to screen size and resolution. Also probably due to the reception being better. And Dash Charging is faster than Rapid Charging on the Nexus.
If I think of more, I will add to this post.