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t-mobile network upgrade

Hi all, any one else noticed an upgrade in their internet speed? always been stuck on 3g but since I got home tonight I now enjoy 2mbps with hspda not as fast as it could be but definitely an upgrade! I'm based in norwich by the way.
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You're gonna get a hell of an upgrade in the next few months as the Orange & T-Mobile merger gets into full swing.

oursoul said:
You're gonna get a hell of an upgrade in the next few months as the Orange & T-Mobile merger gets into full swing.
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is it going to be Orange or T-mobile? whos buying who?

cez10 said:
is it going to be Orange or T-mobile? whos buying who?
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Neither, Just joining forces.
Calling themselves everything and everywhere.
Just so one biggest uk service provider by a mile.
However they have had to give 3 UK 300 or so masks, something to do with
fair competition rubbish. So if your on 3 you will also benefit from the joining

To be honest, my reception for 2G and 3G has drastically improved in the last 2-3 days (T-mobile). I usually had zero bars on both (-107 dBm) at home and very rarely a bar showed up. Now, I'm at -93 to -101 dBm with GPRS and HSPDA, consistently. Mostly the latter (at 2Mbps dl, 0.6Mbps ul, 50ms ping through the Speedtest app).
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To be honest, my reception for 2G and 3G has drastically improved in the last 2-3 days (T-mobile). I usually had zero bars on both (-107 dBm) at home and very rarely a bar showed up. Now, I'm at -93 to -101 dBm with GPRS and HSPDA, consistently. Mostly the latter (at 2Mbps dl, 0.6Mbps ul, 50ms ping through the Speedtest app).
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do you have some kind of custom settings??
Phil750123 said:
Neither, Just joining forces.
Calling themselves everything and everywhere.
Just so one biggest uk service provider by a mile.
However they have had to give 3 UK 300 or so masks, something to do with
fair competition rubbish. So if your on 3 you will also benefit from the joining
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so there will be a new name, new company or orange and t-mobile as separate with different offers but same everything else?

To be honest, my reception for 2G and 3G has drastically improved in the last 2-3 days (T-mobile). I usually had zero bars on both (-107 dBm) at home
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do you have some kind of custom settings??
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Nope, but I did change the settings to false ones, tried connecting through those a few times, and then reinserted the proper settings back. Restart phone > disable radio using the HTC Functional Testing app > wait a few mins > re-enable radio using the same app > then reconnect mobile data.
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cez10 said:
so there will be a new name, new company or orange and t-mobile as separate with different offers but same everything else?
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Orange and t-mobile will be separate names, contracts etc still but 'everything and everywhere' is the name for the merged company. Google it for more infoz

Slow Network Speeds?

I hate tech support calls, I have no patience for those calls because I'm above them technically in so many ways (not to sound conceited, but I work in IT for a living, and I'm high up the chain).
What type of network speed is this thing supposed to get on Sprint? On average, I'm not getting any faster than 5mbit.

I'm lucky if I ever get over 1mbit here in Orange County. Usually get 0.5mbps here. Only in off hours do I ever go over that, so I know it's not even my reception. Just their crap network. Freaking sprint...

agentfazexx said:
I hate tech support calls, I have no patience for those calls because I'm above them technically in so many ways (not to sound conceited, but I work in IT for a living, and I'm high up the chain).
What type of network speed is this thing supposed to get on Sprint? On average, I'm not getting any faster than 5mbit.
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Depends on your area. I don't have 4g and my 3g sucks as well. I get around 200-400 kbps. Luckily I use my wifi.
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musclehead84 said:
Depends on your area. I don't have 4g and my 3g sucks as well. I get around 200-400 kbps. Luckily I use my wifi.
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I'm right outside Baltimore. 4G bounces up and down all the time, it's pretty bad.

I don't have 4G in my area, but my 3G speeds are posted in my sig. Anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 usually.

05GT said:
I don't have 4G in my area, but my 3G speeds are posted in my sig. Anywhere from 1.5 to 2.3 usually.
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Yeah, that's what I get on 4G a lot of times.

The problem seems to be at home, at work is pretty quick. At home I'm getting 2mbit. How do I approach Sprint support with this issue? I am tired of the stupid "turn your phone on and off" troubleshooting.

I think your fighting a losing battle because its probably not the phone as much as it is the network. Guess we will find out what the plans are at the big event coming up

Not sure if this will work for you but i went here and it actually boosted my 3g by over 400+ kbps. now i normally pull about 1.5 Mbps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283229

ilostmypistons said:
I think your fighting a losing battle because its probably not the phone as much as it is the network. Guess we will find out what the plans are at the big event coming up
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What event?

The only event I know of is when they announce that they're carrying the iPhone.

agentfazexx said:
The only event I know of is when they announce that they're carrying the iPhone.
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They announce their network plans today at 930 eastern time.
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craigbailey1986 said:
They announce their network plans today at 930 eastern time.
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Ah nice. Where can I read about it? I'm at work at the moment.

agentfazexx said:
Ah nice. Where can I read about it? I'm at work at the moment.
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I'm sure tech blogs will post articles post event. I believe Eric Zeman (of phonescoop.com) is at the event -- I think he'll probably provide live coverage here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/phonescooper

geekaren said:
I'm sure tech blogs will post articles post event. I believe Eric Zeman (of phonescoop.com) is at the event -- I think he'll probably provide live coverage here:
https://mobile.twitter.com/phonescooper
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Nice. Let's hope they actually fix their 4G coverage and increase speeds. This phone can handle some insane speeds, faster than my 35/35 Fios connection.

Well I finally got tech support after my cell service dropping over and over again, and they're saying my phone is having issues. 4G stays connected but instead of bars, I get a circle with a line through it, and it says "searching for service." This HAS to be a Sprint issue...

LTE in nyc

Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????

beedotcity said:
Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????
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The answer is the same anywhere... When they get damn good and ready!

beedotcity said:
Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????
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Do you really think we need mroe threads like this, mods please close, people should get infractions for this crap

It may be far away as I started to spot LTE in couple of areas with Sony Xperia Ion.

beedotcity said:
Anyone knows when tmobile will turn on lte in the nyc area??????
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Thats the rush? 25 down and 3 up is perfectly fine for me at the moment. No need to rush. Well at least that's what im getting in NYC
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jghidalgo307 said:
Thats the rush? 25 down and 3 up is perfectly fine for me at the moment. No need to rush. Well at least that's what im getting in NYC
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I agree!

ionic7 said:
Do you really think we need mroe threads like this, mods please close, people should get infractions for this crap
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Infractions? That's a pretty heavy-handed approach beyond simply closing threads.
jghidalgo307 said:
Thats the rush? 25 down and 3 up is perfectly fine for me at the moment. No need to rush. Well at least that's what im getting in NYC
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Well he may not be getting 25 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up consistently (those numbers are admittedly rare for me) if at all and/or is just a bit eager to experience LTE. I know I'm a bit curious to experience LTE myself although I can wait. Where in NYC are you getting those numbers? I rarely see 20 Mbps down here in Queens.

Well he may not be getting 25 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up consistently (those numbers are admittedly rare for me) if at all and/or is just a bit eager to experience LTE. I know I'm a bit curious to experience LTE myself although I can wait. Where in NYC are you getting those numbers? I rarely see 20 Mbps down here in Queens.[/QUOTE]
Actually in queens too loll and to be exact I get those numbers constantly near LGCC. I work in lower Manhattan and experience the same speed. Have you played with your modem?
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jghidalgo307 said:
Well he may not be getting 25 Mbps down and 3 Mbps up consistently (those numbers are admittedly rare for me) if at all and/or is just a bit eager to experience LTE. I know I'm a bit curious to experience LTE myself although I can wait. Where in NYC are you getting those numbers? I rarely see 20 Mbps down here in Queens.
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in queens too. getting 15-20 down / 2-6 up here. can't wait for lte

Launching on 11/17/13 in nyc. Target date tentative subject to change
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bones718 said:
in queens too. getting 15-20 down / 2-6 up here. can't wait for lte
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As a recent Sprint to T-Mobile switch, I really do not see the huge need for LTE. On Sprint, things were horrible. It was very rare occasion when speeds went up more than 700kbps. Latency was horrible too. Had a ton of timeouts even on simple text pages. Google Maps took forever to come back with results. With T-mobile, in NYC, I am frequently seeing 20+mbps speeds. I would say average is about 17mbps. I can do all things I could never do on Sprint now, like watch Netflix, Youtube, stream Pandora and such.
So, am I really itching for LTE? nope. I mean, it would be nice to have, but am I counting the days? No. On Sprint, LTE is viewed as a great savior from slow internet speeds. On T-Mobile, internet speeds are already amazing.
So, let me ask you this. Why can't you wait for LTE? What is it going to give you that HSPA+ won't? It's a honest question, I am really curious. And please, something other than "2x current speed"

Meanee said:
As a recent Sprint to T-Mobile switch, I really do not see the huge need for LTE. On Sprint, things were horrible. It was very rare occasion when speeds went up more than 700kbps. Latency was horrible too. Had a ton of timeouts even on simple text pages. Google Maps took forever to come back with results. With T-mobile, in NYC, I am frequently seeing 20+mbps speeds. I would say average is about 17mbps. I can do all things I could never do on Sprint now, like watch Netflix, Youtube, stream Pandora and such.
So, am I really itching for LTE? nope. I mean, it would be nice to have, but am I counting the days? No. On Sprint, LTE is viewed as a great savior from slow internet speeds. On T-Mobile, internet speeds are already amazing.
So, let me ask you this. Why can't you wait for LTE? What is it going to give you that HSPA+ won't? It's a honest question, I am really curious. And please, something other than "2x current speed"
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They won't feel isolated amongst the likes of Verizon
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Meanee said:
As a recent Sprint to T-Mobile switch, I really do not see the huge need for LTE. On Sprint, things were horrible. It was very rare occasion when speeds went up more than 700kbps. Latency was horrible too. Had a ton of timeouts even on simple text pages. Google Maps took forever to come back with results. With T-mobile, in NYC, I am frequently seeing 20+mbps speeds. I would say average is about 17mbps. I can do all things I could never do on Sprint now, like watch Netflix, Youtube, stream Pandora and such.
So, am I really itching for LTE? nope. I mean, it would be nice to have, but am I counting the days? No. On Sprint, LTE is viewed as a great savior from slow internet speeds. On T-Mobile, internet speeds are already amazing.
So, let me ask you this. Why can't you wait for LTE? What is it going to give you that HSPA+ won't? It's a honest question, I am really curious. And please, something other than "2x current speed"
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as multiplayer online gaming on our handsets will get more advanced, gameplay could use the lte connection. i was never a phone gamer, but nowadays i see myself gaming alot. waiting for more real time multiplayer shooters and racers to come out.

bones718 said:
in queens too. getting 15-20 down / 2-6 up here. can't wait for lte
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2-6mbps up, eh? Show me a single screenshot of HSPA+ speedtest when you see more than 5mbps up. Or even more than 4mbps up!
thanks.

bones718 said:
as multiplayer online gaming on our handsets will get more advanced, gameplay could use the lte connection. i was never a phone gamer, but nowadays i see myself gaming alot. waiting for more real time multiplayer shooters and racers to come out.
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I see people play COD3 and WoW on home DSL connections that top out at 5mbps. About 4x slower than HSPA+ speeds that I get now. So as you can see, LTE is not required for gaming.

milan03 said:
2-6mbps up, eh? Show me a single screenshot of HSPA+ speedtest when you see more than 5mbps up. Or even more than 4mbps up!
thanks.
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typo. between 2 to 4

milan03 said:
2-6mbps up, eh? Show me a single screenshot of HSPA+ speedtest when you see more than 5mbps up. Or even more than 4mbps up!
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Well, most of my upload speedtests are in mid 2000 range. Highest one was 3040kbps. According to a quick search, HSPA+ max upload is around 5.7mbps

Meanee said:
I see people play COD3 and WoW on home DSL connections that top out at 5mbps. About 4x slower than HSPA+ speeds that I get now. So as you can see, LTE is not required for gaming.
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not required, but latency would probably be better.

Meanee said:
I see people play COD3 and WoW on home DSL connections that top out at 5mbps. About 4x slower than HSPA+ speeds that I get now. So as you can see, LTE is not required for gaming.
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Speed isn't that important for most games. What does matter is latency, which is significantly lower on LTE, apparently.

ttabbal said:
Speed isn't that important for most games. What does matter is latency, which is significantly lower on LTE, apparently.
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Most of my speedtest pings are between 20 and 30ms. In comparison, business cable connection ping to 8.8.8.8 in the office has an average of 35ms. My home FiOS connection gets me 20-25.

Sprints new "Spark" LTE 1GBPS LTE Service

I have been contemplating leaving Sprint for their terrible data speeds and lost promises of a reliable and fast data network and now read about yet another attempt at an even faster LTE network rolling out capable of 1GB/ps speeds.
I never got a reliable Wimax connection, still dont have a reliable LTE connection.
Do I really want to hold out hope and wait again for a real working network or just jump ship now [END RANT]
http://newsroom.sprint.com/presskits/sprint-spark.htm
October 30, 2013
Sprint Spark
Sprint Spark is a super-high-speed capability offering 50-60 Megabits per second (Mbps) peak speeds today with increasing speed potential over time.
Sprint Spark is a super-high-speed capability offering 50-60 Megabits per second (Mbps) peak speedstoday with increasing speed potential over time. Given Sprint’s spectrum and technology assets, it is technically feasible to deliver more than 2 Gigabits per second (Gbps) per sector of over-the-air speed.
Sprint demonstrated 1 Gigabit per second over-the-air speed on Oct. 30 at a Sprint lab near Silicon Valley, Calif.

I got real excited about this also since I'm in Tampa, but I have read in a couple places that you will have to have one 01 the new tri band phones . Iam thinking of leaving Spnnr de to the spotty service and am not sure if I want to renew for another two years to test this out
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But we dont have tri band on the note2 or note3
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Chaz187 said:
But we dont have tri band on the note2 or note3
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Yeah its pretty much useless if you dont have a triband phone.
And the only ones that are going to be triband so far are the Galaxy S4 mini, Galaxy Mega, LG G2, and the HTC one max....and I think some hot spot devices.

This is good news but im still jumping ship I'll wait till next year or so when they do have their network data on point and better tri band phones as to im not a fan of tge G2 or S4 mini or the mega or htc one max lol. T mobile is great in my area and they are at 20x20 mhz now so im just going to jump ship and get a note 3 on tmobile.
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I'll test this out once my Nexus five arrives since I am in Tampa.

DarkManX4lf said:
Yeah its pretty much useless if you dont have a triband phone.
And the only ones that are going to be triband so far are the Galaxy S4 mini, Galaxy Mega, LG G2, and the HTC one max....and I think some hot spot devices.
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And nexus 5!
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Guys this announcement is more about raising stock value than about better network speeds...

Itchiee said:
I'll test this out once my Nexus five arrives since I am in Tampa.
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I think Sprint indicated in a press release it would be enabled after launch, but maybe that only applies to another phone.
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jreuschl said:
I think Sprint indicated in a press release it would be enabled after launch, but maybe that only applies to another phone.
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It applies to all phones I think it was lg phones will be enabled in November or December and Samsung on january 2014 so wont probably be able to test it until that update is pushed.
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Sorry to burst your bubbles but it wont reach 1gps on devices..... if anyone thought that it may beat Verizons AWS LTE, in select markets. Go to S4GRU.com to learn more information, and upcoming devices, and network info.

No one really needs 1gps bandwidth on their mobile device unless you dont have internet at home even 1gps is still too much for that purpose. With that beign said anything over 100mbps for a mobile device is too much.
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No one really needs 1gps bandwidth on their mobile device unless you dont have internet at home even 1gps is still too much for that purpose. With that beign said anything over 100mbps for a mobile device is too much.
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famous last words. I remember people saying that one needed 100MB hard drives either back in the 80's. Look at today.
And there is a push going for services provided by the cloud. I can see uses for more bandwidth, and even thought much. The biggest issue I see is more the limitations of the devices because of the hardware or software. Then again, I see smartphones just portable computers with phone service.
And even, and if, the service does hit, doesn't mean that the we're getting reliable and steady 1G throughput. I see it more as overall, we're going to be more bandwidth. And since it's suppose to be triband and switch quickly, hopefully that helps in the reliability, maybe even maintain, higher bandwidth.

I'm ditching Sprint as soon as my contract is up, fed up of no LTE in my area when everything else has LTE. Without wifi my phone is useless with slow sprint data speeds.

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I'm ditching Sprint as soon as my contract is up, fed up of no LTE in my area when everything else has LTE. Without wifi my phone is useless with slow sprint data speeds.
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Greatest decision you could make, I know it's not the same for everyone and some people have great speeds with them but I friggin despise sprint so badly with their less than dial up like speeds, over here in Bakersfield, CA it's T- Mobile or Verizon or GTFO!
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Well... While I think 1Gbps is unrealistic down or up at the moment for an individual phone.... I do expect the backhauls for Tri-band LTE towers are being upgraded to 1Gbps. Japan has proven that there's a market for it with speeds as high as 150Mbps down (per phone!) so I certainly believe we're slowly heading that way. In addition, by moving up to that high of a backhaul now it should potentially avoid serious upgrades like they are doing now for a few years at least.

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Well... While I think 1Gbps is unrealistic down or up at the moment for an individual phone.... I do expect the backhauls for Tri-band LTE towers are being upgraded to 1Gbps. Japan has proven that there's a market for it with speeds as high as 150Mbps down (per phone!) so I certainly believe we're slowly heading that way. In addition, by moving up to that high of a backhaul now it should potentially avoid serious upgrades like they are doing now for a few years at least.
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To be fair...on has to remember why "4G LTE" is called "LTE". Because the actual 4G standard requires 1Gbps in low mobility applications (stationary, walking speeds) and 100Mbps for high mobility. The "LTE" moniker was created to bridge the gap until actual 4G tech like this came around.

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To be fair...on has to remember why "4G LTE" is called "LTE". Because the actual 4G standard requires 1Gbps in low mobility applications (stationary, walking speeds) and 100Mbps for high mobility. The "LTE" moniker was created to bridge the gap until actual 4G tech like this came around.
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Sadly I think we're still a way from there - even "LTE-A" will probably not reach that goal. Part of it is a lack of global 1Gbps global tunnels except in academia.... so even if you get 1Gbps local it may not do much if the file is hosted on a T1 equivalent line.

Considering what Comcast charges for their 100mbps service, I don't think that this will be something that will be covered under the $100 everything plan...

So this mean our Note 3 wouldn't have that capability?

Max data speed? Got 51Mbps tethering

Just got a blazing fast speed that makes me wonder what the max the phone is capable of.
My test was done on laptop connected to My One via Wifi tether. That was the speed from Verizon towers.

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Just got a blazing fast speed that makes me wonder what the max the phone is capable of.
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im limited by my ISP but 802.11AC can do quite a bit of speed. connected at home i can see its at 145mbps om local network, but my isp cant go higher than 60mbps

synisterwolf said:
im limited by my ISP but 802.11AC can do quite a bit of speed. connected at home i can see its at 145mbps om local network, but my isp cant go higher than 60mbps
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Will clarify My OP
My test was done on laptop connected to My One via Wifi tether. That was the speed from Verizon towers.

sabindaman said:
Will clarify My OP
My test was done on laptop connected to My One via Wifi tether. That was the speed from Verizon towers.
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oh, speed test over tether.
still limited on the ISP but 50 - 60 is what i get

synisterwolf said:
oh, speed test over tether.
still limited on the ISP but 50 - 60 is what i get
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I fell like there is still some confusion. The test was performed on a laptop which was connected to the hotspot of my htc one which was on VZW network.
What is the fastest someone has seen from the towers?

Check this out. It is kind of old but I think the information is still valid.
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/15/verizon-lte-tower-upgrades/
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I wish i got those speeds. I only get arround 8 mbps durring the day, and arround 28 late nights when the network is less congested. My best ever was 32.27 mbps, and that was at 3:30 in the morning.

Theoretical max speed on Verizon's 700 MHz band is 73 Mbps. The One doesn't support the new AWS band like the Galaxy S4 and G2 which can go up to 150 Mbps.
Of course, with Verizon's 4G network as crappy and overloaded as it is right now, you'd struggle to get 10.

I average about 30 in my area and I've had 56 at the highest.
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I have seen high 40 to low 50 while driving through Charlotte nc when they first got lte. It's dropped drastically now. Where I live I get 8 to 15 and more than happy with that. Long as hulu and Netflix works all I need.
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At my work I get 17-20 consistently. Home will bounce around between 8 and 18. Lowest I have seen without dropping to 3g was a 4 down the street, after having put a custom rom on my phone.

50ish is the most I've gotten so far.

sabindaman said:
Just got a blazing fast speed that makes me wonder what the max the phone is capable of.
My test was done on laptop connected to My One via Wifi tether. That was the speed from Verizon towers.
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I love that you rounded up, even though you're close to 50

dbornack said:
I love that you rounded up, even though you're close to 50
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50 was the end speed but it was spiking into 51 many times

Me still 20. Philippine's area

mine got 15-20 PH area.

me got 20-30mbps

I was at 34Mbps down and 27Mbps up in NC
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I was getting 25-40 easily. Then the iPhone 5 was released. Now I only get ~ 4-5.

I've definitely seen a reduction of performance over the past year in my area. I could pull 30Mb+ even in a densely populated suburb (Philly metro), but now it struggles to hit 15Mbps in the same spot. Not that I'm complaining.
Max I've ever tested was 55Mbps in a popular mountain resort town during an off-peak season. Hopefully vzw builds out more capacity (per the link above) and keeps the speeds at a satisfactory level, but I don't expect to see 50Mbps regularly.