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I was just wondering if it was still possible to get an AMOLED from Verizon if I say, complain a lot about my screen lacking in comparison with a competitors phone. I got my DINC about a month ago and love it and I like the screen as it is, but from a programming perspective, it seems that there are two different methods that people need to take on whether they have an AMOLED or SLCD. Thoughts?
It would probably be a refurb if you got one. Being over a month though don't count on it. Getting it would be the luck of the draw anyhow from their warehouse.
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I remember last week when my gf and I went to go get her an Incredible the salesman was telling her it was AMOLED and I was like no its not. He was like yes it is. But I eventually proved him wrong. Shows how much they actually know about the phones they are selling.
Anyways you could probably tell that story without the proving him wrong part and complain alot how you can't see the screen very well in sun.
You might be able to get a refurbished one or maybe a custom order.
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Some stores still have some in stock, that's how I got mine, just ask for one with the serial say the end of w2 keep in mind that after 30 days you cannot return the phone and it is considered used
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...from a programming perspective, it seems that there are two different methods that people need to take on whether they have an AMOLED or SLCD.
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Wonder why that is, since neither the OTA update nor apps on the Market seem to differentiate...
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Wonder why that is, since neither the OTA update nor apps on the Market seem to differentiate...
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Because they use different drivers.
For the most part you cannot get an AMOLED version if you bought an SLCD version.
If you have an SLCD version and ask for a refurb they will only give you the SLCD, you cannot request an SLCD version because the way that the request is done in the computer and the selection process in the warehouse.
I've gone through 3 AMOLEDs so I wanted to try an SLCD to see if the hardware was better put together, but they wouldn't give me an SLCD version no matter how much I asked. They simply gave me another refurb AMOLED. There are refurb AMOLEDs in warehouses, but I highly doubt there are any new ones anywhere.
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Because they use different drivers.
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I still don't get it. Sure, if you are writing an app that tries to access the screen directly through the hardware layer, I can see where you would need to target specific drivers.
But, in all the years of app development, I have always used the OS' API for the HID interaction. That way you don't have to write different versions of your code to target specific makes and models of hardware.
For instance, in the Windows world, a paint or print command in an app does not care about specific makes or models of monitors or printers. That is taken care of by the OS' interpreting the command from the API and passing the interpreted commands through the I/O ports.
The corollary in Android would be you would use the Android API (in the SDK) to interact with the screen. The OS would be responsible for passing that interaction on to the screen itself through the drivers.
The corollary in Android would be you would use the Android API (in the SDK) to interact with the screen. The OS would be responsible for passing that interaction on to the screen itself through the drivers.
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I do see your point but I believe it has to do with the fact that with full replacement mods such as Cyanogen, they interact with the phone at a level lower and need direct access to the screen hardware.
Whether you believe it or not, it is a fact for example try flashing CM 6.0.2 to a SLCD, the screen will not work.
I don't think this affects the sense-based ROMs as much, but I could be wrong. I haven't looked too much into them.
Screen type has no affect on apps, and that is all OTAs really are, besides maybe a couple of coding brush ups to fix some system bugs, but those would not relate to the screen either. The main problem between the AMOLED and SLCD is that they require slightly different coding in identifying the display, which is why AOSP roms had trouble installing on SLCD when they were made for AMOLED. The rom was trying to recognize an AMOLED screen and sensors but obviously was not finding one.
Thanks, guys. That makes sense.
App Development - Probably don't need to get down close to the metal.
ROM Development - More likely to need more direct access to devices.
Especially when working with an OS where we can get our grubby mitts on the kernel source code itself.
i recently got back into the icredible game,(got one on luanch day, sold it, used, x, then fascinate, then saw a Amoled one at a shop, in pristine condition and picked it up) anyway, the guy i got it from is a very honest guy, and i have been dealing with him for about a year now and he said that he had ordered about 10 wholesale from VZW about a month ago and told me it was AMOLED and i doubted him at first but then checked up on how to find out which it was and he was true to his word, and upon speaking with verizon the phones ESN had never been activated, so i would think that the easiest way to get them would be to find a 3rd party retailer, and then check it out and see which screen it has, it could be entirely possible to find a VZW store in a remote area that has absolutely no business and still has them in stock, i know that the SLCD ones actually ship with froyo, so if on the box it says it has froyo then thats one easy way, and if it says android 2.1 then you may have a winner, just a few tips on how i got lucky maybe they will help you out.
That is not true, some amoleds like mine shipped with 2.2. to tell go into settings, about phone, then hardware information, if it says 0002 it's amoled if it says 0003 its super lcd
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Also my town has over 50000 people living in it, so we are by no means small. a friend lives in san francisco and he got a stock amoled the same time I did
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A lot of the smaller stores practice what is pretty close to JIT inventory, keeping a very few phones in stock. When you go in to buy one, they put you on the phone w/ a central location and the phone is overnighted to you.
That's how our two DINCs got to us, and we went to a store in a large city.
To the OP, I think it's going to be somewhat of a crapshoot. You could call or visit stores and hope to get in touch with someone who knows what they are doing. Then hope they have an AMOLED in stock.
Same holds true for calling VZW. Keep calling until you luck into someone who knows what they are talking about, then hope they can find an AMOLED for you.
Good luck!
I finally put the google fit app on my phone and I like the views it provides but noticed a problem.
In the settings if I don't have activity detection on then it doesn't show anything coming from my smart watch (Moto 360). If I turn it on it seems to only use the sensors in the phone and ignores the watch.
Perfect test - set the phone on the counter jump on the treadmill and run a few miles. Fit app shows no steps during that time and resyncs the moto 360 to display it's #s.
I'm looking to have that style app interface but running off the Moto 360's data not an internal phone pedometer. Is this something Fit can do or does anyone have another app?
Thanks for the help.
I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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Well that straight up sucks... I guess I'll remove it. Any thoughts on an app that is properly compatible? It seems motorola is trying with Moto Body, but they have nothing on the app side to use.
I had to do exactly this. Not only was Fit not registering my steps, I think that it was actually also draining my battery faster. Since I've removed it, my battery life is up 40-50%. Food for thought.
As for Moto Body, I was loath to use it at first. But, with a bit of time, it's actually grown on me. The HR monitor seems to be faster and I like the presentation of steps, calories, miles, etc. (I'm talking about the new version with Moto Connect update.)
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Well that straight up sucks... I guess I'll remove it. Any thoughts on an app that is properly compatible? It seems motorola is trying with Moto Body, but they have nothing on the app side to use.
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I had to do exactly this. Not only was Fit not registering my steps, I think that it was actually also draining my battery faster. Since I've removed it, my battery life is up 40-50%. Food for thought.
As for Moto Body, I was loath to use it at first. But, with a bit of time, it's actually grown on me. The HR monitor seems to be faster and I like the presentation of steps, calories, miles, etc. (I'm talking about the new version with Moto Connect update.)
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I agree on the battery life thing as well and the phone side of the moto body stuff..... Now if they'd just build the rich app side I'd be happy... Fit started with that but humped the device part.
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I think this might have something to do with Fit not being compatible with the Moto 360 on a hardware level yet. The 360 doesn't appear in the list of connected apps and devices within Fit. I assume in time, it will and that will allow monitoring from the smartwatch and not the phone. Just my guess though, I don't know for sure.
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It's the same issue with the LG G watch, and probably the rest of Wear smartwatches. Google Fit is still a half baked product, we'll have to wait till they get things sorted out (hopefully with Wear 2.0?! )
i have some problem. anyone find solution meanwhile ?
Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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I'm not seeing this, even after an update.
pakure said:
Fit got updated with this experimental feature
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Fit got updated with standalone step counts, on the watch, but still doesn't export properly to a connected phone. Hopefully they fix it soon.
What he said....
instigator008 said:
Fit got updated with standalone step counts, on the watch, but still doesn't export properly to a connected phone. Hopefully they fix it soon.
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Right. On the Google fit website, they claim that they sync. I left a comment that it does not.
So if more folks voice their concerns, something will be done sooner.
Wow, and this still doesn't work. ?
still not fixed... way to go Google...
update to this. i recently updated my phone from stock 4.4.4 to 5.02, however, I did not install Google Fit. yesterday, I decided to try re-installing it since we got a software update on the watch recently. as soon as I installed Google Fit, I noticed that my phone downloaded all of my steps history from my watch! very glad to see this. so now we'll see how the activity detection impacts the battery on my phone today.
so I'm not sure if the syncing working now is due more to the recent watch software update or my phone being on lollipop. can someone that has kitkat on their phone/device confirm?
thanks!
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update to this. i recently updated my phone from stock 4.4.4 to 5.02, however, I did not install Google Fit. yesterday, I decided to try re-installing it since we got a software update on the watch recently. as soon as I installed Google Fit, I noticed that my phone downloaded all of my steps history from my watch! very glad to see this. so now we'll see how the activity detection impacts the battery on my phone today.
so I'm not sure if the syncing working now is due more to the recent watch software update or my phone being on lollipop. can someone that has kitkat on their phone/device confirm?
thanks!
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I'm on lolli and mine still doesn't work
So after 2 years Fit is still broken. I only see steps when I carry my phone with me. Leave it on the counter, and run around with my moto360 I see the counter go up on my watch and in the MotoBody app but not in the fit app. I've uninstalled, reinstalled all of the apps and reconnected them. Fit just doesn't work with connected counters. So I uninstalled it and won't look back.
Why are virtually all android head units 4.4.x? I was looking at several options for my Evo and up until recently 95% I found was 4.4.4 pretty much. Joying recently came out with a 5.1 2DIN unit which I may end up with. I am also looking for some sort of dual/piggy back system (need to retain full functionality of the stock unit) in my 2016 Jeep Cherokee and came across this guy : http://carperformance.se/?product=uconnect-8-4-android-system . I've emailed back and forth with the sweedish guy that does it, responses are obviously not the best translated but it also uses 4.4.4 and he said it will not be updated in the future. Considering this is 2-3 years old I'm confused why it's still so heavily used in new devices. Is there some benefit it offers, is there wider hardware compatibility, or what? I really like the carperformance product, price is high, but on par for that of a new phone. However, I can't see dishing out money for a 2-3 year old OS that will never be updated, and then in 1-2 years stop getting app updates because its no longer supported. I'd consider getting the unit and digging into it to see what can be done, but I have to imagine there's a reason/limitation that he can't update it so it may be a waste of money. If I could find a way to duplicate what he's done with the touch screen switching board I'm sure I could come up with an android box running a more recent OS, but that may be another thread.
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Why are virtually all android head units 4.4.x? I was looking at several options for my Evo and up until recently 95% I found was 4.4.4 pretty much. Joying recently came out with a 5.1 2DIN unit which I may end up with. I am also looking for some sort of dual/piggy back system (need to retain full functionality of the stock unit) in my 2016 Jeep Cherokee and came across this guy : http://carperformance.se/?product=uconnect-8-4-android-system . I've emailed back and forth with the sweedish guy that does it, responses are obviously not the best translated but it also uses 4.4.4 and he said it will not be updated in the future. Considering this is 2-3 years old I'm confused why it's still so heavily used in new devices. Is there some benefit it offers, is there wider hardware compatibility, or what? I really like the carperformance product, price is high, but on par for that of a new phone. However, I can't see dishing out money for a 2-3 year old OS that will never be updated, and then in 1-2 years stop getting app updates because its no longer supported. I'd consider getting the unit and digging into it to see what can be done, but I have to imagine there's a reason/limitation that he can't update it so it may be a waste of money. If I could find a way to duplicate what he's done with the touch screen switching board I'm sure I could come up with an android box running a more recent OS, but that may be another thread.
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Have you looked at this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ashnet-octa-core-lollipop-head-units-t3353188
Also here to s a touch controller.
http://www.customgadz.com/shop/mimics-lt-enhanced-touchscreen-controller-for-android/
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Have you looked at this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...ashnet-octa-core-lollipop-head-units-t3353188
Also here to s a touch controller.
http://www.customgadz.com/shop/mimics-lt-enhanced-touchscreen-controller-for-android/
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I have not seen that specific thread, looks like a decent HU, will consider it for my one car where I don't need the factory unit. I guess my question would be better stated "why up until recently is all HU's KK". Still 95%+ of them. They are just really slow to adapt and most of them won't get updates. I just don't really get how it's still a marketable item. Maybe all apps will keep supporting KK for another 5+ years, I don't know. I doubt it though.
I had briefly looked at the mimicsLT but as far as I can tell it doesn't actually switch between two devices, it just bridges an android box to a touchscreen and gives some input options. I like the mimicsX2 but it's been outdated for a while, they've been saying a new version is "coming soon" for a while. I'd prefer a dedicated android box (that's 5.x or 6.x) over a mirror but I'd probably be fine either way.
I was considering getting the CarPerformance one and seeing if I could somehow hook my own android box into it or upgrade his, I feel like it's just going to be too much work or just not possible at all, and too much money sunk into it.
Just don't get why the car world for android is still so small, and why it's stuck on KitKat (I doubt there's been any new phones with KitKat for 1-2 years now). I was hoping there was a good answer and it was somehow hardware compatibility related or something, but maybe not.
Thanks for the response!
Just curious if anyone else is getting ready to upgrade now that it appears highly unlikely anyone is going to be able to get android wear 2.0 on the moto 360 and Motorola has already confirmed they won't. Personally, I think those new google "nexus" watch rumors seem really interesting.
Hello
Im waiting for the watch with new snapdragon 2100. Android Wear 2 dont change stuff so much that i cant wait until turn of the year 2016/2017. New coplication is not so big boom. And keyboard in small screen is it also no win.
Mayby new google watch or Moto 360 3gen , mayby Sony rounded smartwatch 4 ?
as of now, my gen 1 moto 360 still does its job. I feel that a change to any other watch would not be a significant upgrade, as it is hard to find a watch that looks both classy and sporty. my wishlist for my next watch would be a better battery and slimmer profile (and maybe more water resistant).
Mine does what I need it to do, like erm tells the time and keeps smart lock on the phone. As well as Google fit works, so no I'm not changing it.
In honesty, unless smartwatch prices drop a lot, I won't be getting another one this one gives up.
This should be interesting, I spent a bit of time on the phone and I was referred to a "Senior Specialist". This person emailed me with these requests:
To better assist you with your current Google Pixel Watch concern, please reply to this email with these information:
Detailed description of the issue (please include as much information as possible):
Device serial number:
Purchase date:
Retailer or store (e.g. Google Store, Best Buy, etc.) where the watch was purchased:
Country where you’re currently in:
Address:
Contact number:
Incident date:
Questions to answer:
Is the device still working?
Was there a change in device temperature?
Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?
If not, what’s the brand of the charging cable you used?
During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen?
How long was the device in use before the incident (days, weeks, months, etc)?
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
All this seems a bit excessive to me, especially considering that I gave all this information on a 15 minute call, but what the hell do I know, I only did elevator electronics tech support before becoming the manager of that unit.
This was my response:
The issue is simple, my Pixel watch will not charge. I have two charger pods bought from the Google store and neither one charges the watch. I can place the watch on either of the pods and the charging animation does not come on and the battery level does not change from the way it was when I woke up: 57%. Two things I noticed is that the watch will get warm if left on the charger, and the app on my Pixel 7 Pro shows connected but never syncs.
The serial number is: 25041JEEJWO2KU
The purchase Date is November 18th, 2022
Bought from Amazon
I live in the United States
My Address is: XXXXXXX
My telephone is: XXXXXX
The issue first came up today: 2/6/2023
No, the drive is not working, it is still at 57% despite trying off and on all day long to charge it.
As I said before the watch got warm when I tried charging it. The tech that I spoke to before this email told me to not put it back on the charger, to prevent the unit from getting warm - so I have only briefly tried to see if maybe the charge would begin. Foolish though, but I am an optimist.
"Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?" My chargers are sold by Google: https://store.google.com/us/product/watch_charger?sku=_pixwatch_usbc_mag_chrgr_snow&hl=en-US
"During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen? " - I found a problem when I woke up and tried charging my phone. I do this every day when I wake up.
The watch has been working since the day I bought it, November 2022
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
No, I am not sending photos because it's stupid. My phone is not physically damaged in any way, not even a scratch on the face.
I eagerly await your call.
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This should be interesting, I spent a bit of time on the phone and I was referred to a "Senior Specialist". This person emailed me with these requests:
To better assist you with your current Google Pixel Watch concern, please reply to this email with these information:
Detailed description of the issue (please include as much information as possible):
Device serial number:
Purchase date:
Retailer or store (e.g. Google Store, Best Buy, etc.) where the watch was purchased:
Country where you’re currently in:
Address:
Contact number:
Incident date:
Questions to answer:
Is the device still working?
Was there a change in device temperature?
Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?
If not, what’s the brand of the charging cable you used?
During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen?
How long was the device in use before the incident (days, weeks, months, etc)?
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
All this seems a bit excessive to me, especially considering that I gave all this information on a 15 minute call, but what the hell do I know, I only did elevator electronics tech support before becoming the manager of that unit.
This was my response:
The issue is simple, my Pixel watch will not charge. I have two charger pods bought from the Google store and neither one charges the watch. I can place the watch on either of the pods and the charging animation does not come on and the battery level does not change from the way it was when I woke up: 57%. Two things I noticed is that the watch will get warm if left on the charger, and the app on my Pixel 7 Pro shows connected but never syncs.
The serial number is: 25041JEEJWO2KU
The purchase Date is November 18th, 2022
Bought from Amazon
I live in the United States
My Address is: XXXXXXX
My telephone is: XXXXXX
The issue first came up today: 2/6/2023
No, the drive is not working, it is still at 57% despite trying off and on all day long to charge it.
As I said before the watch got warm when I tried charging it. The tech that I spoke to before this email told me to not put it back on the charger, to prevent the unit from getting warm - so I have only briefly tried to see if maybe the charge would begin. Foolish though, but I am an optimist.
"Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?" My chargers are sold by Google: https://store.google.com/us/product/watch_charger?sku=_pixwatch_usbc_mag_chrgr_snow&hl=en-US
"During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen? " - I found a problem when I woke up and tried charging my phone. I do this every day when I wake up.
The watch has been working since the day I bought it, November 2022
Also, please send us photos of the following:
Focus on the specific issue and the overall placement of device
Photos of the device (front and back)
Photos of the charging cable, adapter, or charging station (for third-party accessories, include the make and model)
{Only if you reported an injury} Photos of the affected area
No, I am not sending photos because it's stupid. My phone is not physically damaged in any way, not even a scratch on the face.
I eagerly await your call.
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Good luck. What is it about "not charging" that they don't understand! Obviously, they have a menu of items no matter what the issue.
LordP666 said:
The issue is simple, my Pixel watch will not charge. I have two charger pods bought from the Google store and neither one charges the watch. I can place the watch on either of the pods and the charging animation does not come on and the battery level does not change from the way it was when I woke up: 57%. Two things I noticed is that the watch will get warm if left on the charger, and the app on my Pixel 7 Pro shows connected but never syncs.
No, the drive is not working, it is still at 57% despite trying off and on all day long to charge it.
As I said before the watch got warm when I tried charging it. The tech that I spoke to before this email told me to not put it back on the charger, to prevent the unit from getting warm - so I have only briefly tried to see if maybe the charge would begin. Foolish though, but I am an optimist.
"Did you use the cable that came with the device to charge your watch?" My chargers are sold by Google: https://store.google.com/us/product/watch_charger?sku=_pixwatch_usbc_mag_chrgr_snow&hl=en-US
"During what activity or inactivity did the incident happen? " - I found a problem when I woke up and tried charging my phone. I do this every day when I wake up.
The watch has been working since the day I bought it, November 2022
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I missed the part when you performed a factory reset twice and powered off the device for 5-10 minutes before you add any 3rd party apps.
-- Be certain that you are not a tester of Google Play Services.
rodken said:
I missed the part when you performed a factory reset twice and powered off the device for 5-10 minutes before you add any 3rd party apps.
-- Be certain that you are not a tester of Google Play Services.
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Nope. I'm not doing any resets at all.
I'm waiting for them to tell me to do that and I'll expect a promise to replace the watch if the issue comes up a second time. I don't think having to do resets is normal in any way.
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I don't think having to do resets is normal in any way.
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Factory resets can fix many chronic issues whether you believe in snake oil or not.
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Factory resets can fix many chronic issues whether you believe in snake oil or not.
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Not really the point. I simply don't want factory resets to be the new normal for me - I don't plan on doing it on a daily basis. Or even on a weekly basis.
If that's the case then I want my money back. I want them to promise me a new watch should this occur again.
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Not really the point. I simply don't want factory resets to be the new normal for me - I don't plan on doing it on a daily basis. Or even on a weekly basis.
If that's the case then I want my money back. I want them to promise me a new watch should this occur again.
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To gain a better understanding of your line of thought.
-- You'd rather Google send a replacement instead of you trying to correct the issue yourself.
-- You are hoping that if and when you get a new watch, that all will be right in the world.
-- If the same issue occurs with the new device - there is always the dreaded Apple Watch.
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To gain a better understanding of your line of thought.
-- You'd rather Google send a replacement instead of you trying to correct the issue yourself.
-- You are hoping that if and when you get a new watch, that all will be right in the world.
-- If the same issue occurs with the new device - there is always the dreaded Apple Watch.
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Mostly correct.
I have no problem doing a factory reset - I object to having to do it on a regular basis.
I would hope a new device would work correctly. I had a Samsung Galaxy watch years ago and when it failed for the fourth time, I took a freaking hammer to it - it was more satisfying to do that than to continue having problems. Pixel Watch better watch out (sorry about the pun).
And, no, no way in hell would I wear an Apple device.
This is my latest email exchange:
Hello Lord,
I understand you don't want to send photos of your device, but in order for our team to properly isolate what's happening with your Pixel Watch, our team also needs to thoroughly check your device and its components like the charger and its brick.
ME:
My device is less than 3 months old. The time works, Google Keep works, the heart rate works, the temperature works, and the time to Sunrise works.
There are no scratches, no dents, no dirt, no dings, I did not try to drown it, I did not tape it to a stick of Dynamite, nothing physically wrong with the watch - it is stuck at 57% charging.
WHAT will a picture tell you?
I have the Google charging pods - wireless, in case you are confused.
If you insist on pictures, then we are done. All you would get is a picture of a perfect-looking watch.
I will share my experiences on https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/google-pixel-watch.12613/
And frankly, your demands are ridiculous.
Please reply and tell me if we are done or not.
Thank you.
Any one have a friend at Ars, or somewhere that might be interested? Please contact me.
I'm willing to take this to the limit.
I guess I will ask: Have you tried a RESET or reboot or restart or whatever at all? I don't see that mentioned in the original post but I might have missed it. If not, a reset would be the place to start. It does not mean it will be a permanent requirement. It might just clear up the current glitch, whatever caused it. I did have to do a full reset the second day I owned it. But now it has not had any issues. I have had it about as long as you have.
I will admit, I would definitely like better battery life.
fred2546 said:
I guess I will ask: Have you tried a RESET or reboot or restart or whatever at all? I don't see that mentioned in the original post but I might have missed it. If not, a reset would be the place to start. It does not mean it will be a permanent requirement. It might just clear up the current glitch, whatever caused it. I did have to do a full reset the second day I owned it. But now it has not had any issues. I have had it about as long as you have.
I will admit, I would definitely like better battery life.
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I could, and I will, but I wanted it to be on the record, for them to ask me to do it so that if it happens again I can pressure them into giving me a new watch.
LordP666 said:
I could, and I will, but I wanted it to be on the record, for them to ask me to do it so that if it happens again I can pressure them into giving me a new watch.
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The reasoning behind Google asking for photos is to clarify and to answer the magic question on whether the item is damaged in any form or fashion.
Somewhere along the lines of chasing ghosts - you might want to consider hiring an attorney that specialize in defective products if you want to escalate this to a new level.
rodken said:
The reasoning behind Google asking for photos is to clarify and to answer the magic question on whether the item is damaged in any form or fashion.
Somewhere along the lines of chasing ghosts - you might want to consider hiring an attorney that specialize in defective products if you want to escalate this to a new level.
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I have told them that the time works, the date works, the heart rate works, the weather works, Google Keep works, weather works - why on earth would they think it's damaged?
I'm 73 years old and have had to resort to tech support from time to time, I have never been asked for pictures of a product. Hell, I'm typing this on a Pixel 7 Pro that I got with a trade in for a Pixel 3A, sight unseen, and no photos!
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I have told them that the time works, the date works, the heart rate works, the weather works, Google Keep works, weather works - why on earth would they think it's damaged?
I'm 73 years old and have had to resort to tech support from time to time, I have never been asked for pictures of a product. Hell, I'm typing this on a Pixel 7 Pro that I got with a trade in for a Pixel 3A, sight unseen, and no photos!
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Bear in mind - Google has been hosed by a great number of scam artists over the years regarding false accusations and dirty tactics to get Google to replacement product under false pretenses.
-- Therefore, by you not complying to their request will raise a red flag whether you like it or not.
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Bear in mind - Google has been hosed by a great number of scam artists over the years regarding false accusations and dirty tactics to get Google to replacement product under false pretenses.
-- Therefore, by you not complying to their request will raise a red flag whether you like it or not.
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OK. So be it. My hammer is ready.
I personally believe that it's absurd to have all those requirements before speaking a single word to me - I still have not had a phone call from this guy.
I will be selling my Pixel 7 Pro, and my Pixel Buds - I feel that I can't trust them anymore.
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OK. So be it. My hammer is ready.
I personally believe that it's absurd to have all those requirements before speaking a single word to me - I still have not had a phone call from this guy.
I will be selling my Pixel 7 Pro, and my Pixel Buds - I feel that I can't trust them anymore.
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I feel your pain. Gone are the days where a simple call to customer service was all that was required.
In today's world of high tech and bad actors, most of the Fortune 500 companies are becoming very weary of their bottom line.
In my last job, I didn't work for a Fortune 500, but I did work in tech support, the real kind - definitely not a call center. I started as tech support, became senior field tech support, and wound up being the manager. I traveled all over the United States, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and Canada.
The company is an elevator controller manufacturer, all the equipment was built in-house. Anything from the controllers, the door operators, the panels, and even the switches were built in-house - motors too. It was a privately owned company until the owners sold it to a venture company from SF. They were in their 80s and didn't trust their own kids to run it.
When someone called us we talked them through any problems they were having, any at all, with any equipment that we built. We would help with installation and troubleshooting. I gave symposiums where union members could get college credits. I even wrote technical manuals.
If you are curious, download this one - I did most of the work on it: https://www.gal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GALaxy_III_Traction_Elevator_ControllerV3.3.15.pdf
What pisses me off about this problem I'm having is that all the requirements that he demanded are before the guy spoke a single word to me, to ask me what was going on. The presumption that I had broken the thing before a single word passed between us makes me furious.
I invested in the Google ecosystem very heavily and I am just about ready to rip everything out.
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In my last job, I didn't work for a Fortune 500, but I did work in tech support, the real kind - definitely not a call center. I started as tech support, became senior field tech support, and wound up being the manager. I traveled all over the United States, Puerto Rico, Hawaii, and Canada.
The company is an elevator controller manufacturer, all the equipment was built in-house. Anything from the controllers, the door operators, the panels, and even the switches were built in-house - motors too. It was a privately owned company until the owners sold it to a venture company from SF. They were in their 80s and didn't trust their own kids to run it.
When someone called us we talked them through any problems they were having, any at all, with any equipment that we built. We would help with installation and troubleshooting. I gave symposiums where union members could get college credits. I even wrote technical manuals.
If you are curious, download this one - I did most of the work on it: https://www.gal.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/GALaxy_III_Traction_Elevator_ControllerV3.3.15.pdf
What pisses me off about this problem I'm having is that all the requirements that he demanded are before the guy spoke a single word to me, to ask me what was going on. The presumption that I had broken the thing before a single word passed between us makes me furious.
I invested in the Google ecosystem very heavily and I am just about ready to rip everything out.
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I remembered back in the '90's when simply hanging up the phone and redialing several times until you actually hit paydirt with someone who actually cares.
There has been talk over the decades of the 'Decline of Customer Service in America', but all that shows us is that most of these companies just need re-evaluate their training manuals but continue to blame it on the tight labor market or a shortage of qualified employees. But it often comes down to not taking the time to instill core service training for all customer-facing employees.
"But it often comes down to not taking the time to instill core service training for all customer-facing employees."
I completely agree - everything in that last company I worked for was done as on-the-job training. We hired right out of college for the most part and we taught them everything, took them to job sites, and introduced them to the customers. The elevator industry is a small one and you develop friendships, and relationships with the customers. One of the best jobs I have ever had.
I made tons of friends, and the owner gave me an Amex card and he told me to "use the **** out of it" - the deal was that I'd show up to a place like Chicago, go to three or four job sites, and then buy the guys food and drink all night long. I did this in almost every big city in the US and Canada for years and never once had to fill out expense sheets.
What really kills me are call centers - I hate them with a passion that surprises even me. Whoever came up with that should burn in hell for eternity.
I had this happen to me once and all it took to clear was to hold down both buttons to do a Hard Reset and when it came backup it charged again.
Have you tried that? Hard Resetting doesn't factory reset the watch it just powers it down and reboots it.