I was just wondering if it was still possible to get an AMOLED from Verizon if I say, complain a lot about my screen lacking in comparison with a competitors phone. I got my DINC about a month ago and love it and I like the screen as it is, but from a programming perspective, it seems that there are two different methods that people need to take on whether they have an AMOLED or SLCD. Thoughts?
It would probably be a refurb if you got one. Being over a month though don't count on it. Getting it would be the luck of the draw anyhow from their warehouse.
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I remember last week when my gf and I went to go get her an Incredible the salesman was telling her it was AMOLED and I was like no its not. He was like yes it is. But I eventually proved him wrong. Shows how much they actually know about the phones they are selling.
Anyways you could probably tell that story without the proving him wrong part and complain alot how you can't see the screen very well in sun.
You might be able to get a refurbished one or maybe a custom order.
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Some stores still have some in stock, that's how I got mine, just ask for one with the serial say the end of w2 keep in mind that after 30 days you cannot return the phone and it is considered used
Sent from my HTC Incredible
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...from a programming perspective, it seems that there are two different methods that people need to take on whether they have an AMOLED or SLCD.
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Wonder why that is, since neither the OTA update nor apps on the Market seem to differentiate...
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Wonder why that is, since neither the OTA update nor apps on the Market seem to differentiate...
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Because they use different drivers.
For the most part you cannot get an AMOLED version if you bought an SLCD version.
If you have an SLCD version and ask for a refurb they will only give you the SLCD, you cannot request an SLCD version because the way that the request is done in the computer and the selection process in the warehouse.
I've gone through 3 AMOLEDs so I wanted to try an SLCD to see if the hardware was better put together, but they wouldn't give me an SLCD version no matter how much I asked. They simply gave me another refurb AMOLED. There are refurb AMOLEDs in warehouses, but I highly doubt there are any new ones anywhere.
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Because they use different drivers.
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I still don't get it. Sure, if you are writing an app that tries to access the screen directly through the hardware layer, I can see where you would need to target specific drivers.
But, in all the years of app development, I have always used the OS' API for the HID interaction. That way you don't have to write different versions of your code to target specific makes and models of hardware.
For instance, in the Windows world, a paint or print command in an app does not care about specific makes or models of monitors or printers. That is taken care of by the OS' interpreting the command from the API and passing the interpreted commands through the I/O ports.
The corollary in Android would be you would use the Android API (in the SDK) to interact with the screen. The OS would be responsible for passing that interaction on to the screen itself through the drivers.
The corollary in Android would be you would use the Android API (in the SDK) to interact with the screen. The OS would be responsible for passing that interaction on to the screen itself through the drivers.
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I do see your point but I believe it has to do with the fact that with full replacement mods such as Cyanogen, they interact with the phone at a level lower and need direct access to the screen hardware.
Whether you believe it or not, it is a fact for example try flashing CM 6.0.2 to a SLCD, the screen will not work.
I don't think this affects the sense-based ROMs as much, but I could be wrong. I haven't looked too much into them.
Screen type has no affect on apps, and that is all OTAs really are, besides maybe a couple of coding brush ups to fix some system bugs, but those would not relate to the screen either. The main problem between the AMOLED and SLCD is that they require slightly different coding in identifying the display, which is why AOSP roms had trouble installing on SLCD when they were made for AMOLED. The rom was trying to recognize an AMOLED screen and sensors but obviously was not finding one.
Thanks, guys. That makes sense.
App Development - Probably don't need to get down close to the metal.
ROM Development - More likely to need more direct access to devices.
Especially when working with an OS where we can get our grubby mitts on the kernel source code itself.
i recently got back into the icredible game,(got one on luanch day, sold it, used, x, then fascinate, then saw a Amoled one at a shop, in pristine condition and picked it up) anyway, the guy i got it from is a very honest guy, and i have been dealing with him for about a year now and he said that he had ordered about 10 wholesale from VZW about a month ago and told me it was AMOLED and i doubted him at first but then checked up on how to find out which it was and he was true to his word, and upon speaking with verizon the phones ESN had never been activated, so i would think that the easiest way to get them would be to find a 3rd party retailer, and then check it out and see which screen it has, it could be entirely possible to find a VZW store in a remote area that has absolutely no business and still has them in stock, i know that the SLCD ones actually ship with froyo, so if on the box it says it has froyo then thats one easy way, and if it says android 2.1 then you may have a winner, just a few tips on how i got lucky maybe they will help you out.
That is not true, some amoleds like mine shipped with 2.2. to tell go into settings, about phone, then hardware information, if it says 0002 it's amoled if it says 0003 its super lcd
Sent from my HTC Incredible
Also my town has over 50000 people living in it, so we are by no means small. a friend lives in san francisco and he got a stock amoled the same time I did
Sent from my HTC Incredible
A lot of the smaller stores practice what is pretty close to JIT inventory, keeping a very few phones in stock. When you go in to buy one, they put you on the phone w/ a central location and the phone is overnighted to you.
That's how our two DINCs got to us, and we went to a store in a large city.
To the OP, I think it's going to be somewhat of a crapshoot. You could call or visit stores and hope to get in touch with someone who knows what they are doing. Then hope they have an AMOLED in stock.
Same holds true for calling VZW. Keep calling until you luck into someone who knows what they are talking about, then hope they can find an AMOLED for you.
Good luck!
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I was thinking about getting my phone replaced but i don't want to get a phone that has a crappier screen than my version 2 phone. What's the latest on the new Evo's being sold nowadays? What hardware rev are we at? If I choose to exercise my extended warranty will I get a new phone or a refurbished one? I'm not talking about the manufacturer warranty. By the looks of the official HTC forum thread on this issue, Sprint and HTC are still giving consumers the run around and its not really getting any press exposure.
-Not sent from an iPhone
I believe it's version 3 still...i've been waiting also for maybe one more version like 4..if they make 4..to claim insurance, pay deductable, and use my current one as a backup(lost)..my screen is light leaking like others but I use a case that covers it so I can stand looking at it
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I believe it's version 3 still...i've been waiting also for maybe one more version like 4..if they make 4..to claim insurance, pay deductable, and use my current one as a backup(lost)..my screen is light leaking like others but I use a case that covers it so I can stand looking at it
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That is all good in theory except one part. When you report your device lost/stolen Sprint will permanently deactivate the ESN and should you need to rely on your backup at some point you will not be able to reactivate the phone.
Thanks in advance for reading guys.
Anyways, I have a dead pixel that just annoys the holy hell out of me, so I've decided to order a new screen.
I've got a pretty decent deal on ebay for a front housing+LCD. However, his listing says he has some that say 002 and some that say 003, and to specify which I want....
I'm not sure which to order. I have a Novatech panel, and would like another, but is that related to the 002 or 003 thing? Also, if it isn't related, is there anywhere on the LCD that he can check to see if it's a Novatech panel, so that I can include that in my message to him?
I believe all novas are 003 but not all 003s are novas. Without running a log I dont think there's any way to be sure which screen type it is. Hope this helps.
You can't just get your EVO replaced for light leakage or something?
@Dglowe -
Thank you for the fast and awesome response... I guess I'll just have to try my luck with it, lol. I guess I'll just go for the 003 and see what happens. Ugh... I hate not knowing though.
@TheBiles -
I guess I **COULD**, but honestly, don't want to go through the whole re-rooting and all that ****.
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@TheBiles -
I guess I **COULD**, but honestly, don't want to go through the whole re-rooting and all that ****.
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UnrEVOked Forever is one-click NAND unlock. Plus, you keep your warranty.
I keep my warranty either way.
I guess my big thing is that I don't want refurbished stuff. I read a lot on here about people ending up getting 3 and 4 phones because of the refurbs coming in crooked. It's jsut not really **** I want to deal with if that makes sense.
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I keep my warranty either way.
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You must be more careful with disassembly than I.
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I believe all novas are 003 but not all 003s are novas. Without running a log I dont think there's any way to be sure which screen type it is. Hope this helps.
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Running a launch day 002 nova here.
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I believe all novas are 003 but not all 003s are novas. Without running a log I dont think there's any way to be sure which screen type it is. Hope this helps.
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All 002 are Nova
003 - Nova and Epson
Epson oversaturate colors; Nova has purple hued black. Nova is brighter.
Just go with 003. It is arguable whether Nova or Epson is better.
@ Jerry
Are you pretty sure about that? Not saying you aren't, but just wanting to know u are before I go ahead and order.
@ theBiles
Yea, most likely. PS3, computer, and Xbox modding it what I do for kicks outside of graphic design.
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@ Jerry
Are you pretty sure about that? Not saying you aren't, but just wanting to know u are before I go ahead and order.
@ theBiles
Yea, most likely. PS3, computer, and Xbox modding it what I do for kicks outside of graphic design.
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I stopped updating after a while. And now days, 003 Epson and Nova screens are still being produced. HTC didn't choose one to use as far as I know. This screen thing is probably similar to the touch digitizer situation (3 vs 5 points, just different suppliers)
Ok, so it seems like my best bet is just getting the 002 and being fine. I liek my Novatch.
Either way you will be fine. I had the 002 Nova and when I had my replacement they gave me a brand new 003 Epson. At first I wasn't sure I liked the Epson better or not since I was really used to the Nova. I have the DROID X as well and its more in line with the Epson screen.
After a couple of days with the Epson I like the Epson better. Not as bright but I do not feel the screen is oversaturated and the Multi-touch is more responsive to me. I have done many dotty tests and others. Also the Epson has 5 point which is of no use to me or many of us but I thought I would throw that out there. I have tested 4 EVO's with Nova's and non of them have 5pt MT. My friend just got his EVO 4G and its Epson and it has 5pt MT.
I understand your concern about having to get a refurb but to be honest most of are new that are being replaced at this moment. The Sprint Tech's when i took mine in could not open it because they were told to replace the phones only. They were not allowed to open them. Take what they said as you will. I did get a new phone replacement.
Good luck. Let us know who the removal goes. Take lots of pictures and perhaps one of us will put together a guide on it for you.
Yea. I feel better about potentially getitng an Epson panel now, but, I want to get an 002 just to have something I'm used to looking at.
I'll take tons of pictures, of course, and post them on the board. It looks pretty simple though. Looking at the pictures, it honestly looks like two ribbons to plug into the motherboard, and it's pretty set. Of course, we'll see though.
Asurion just sent me a brand new evo to replace the one my friends dog took a piss on.
How's you know it was brand new dude?
TJ - most of them are new. They aren't fixing them at this moment. I even called HTC on that. They are asking them to replace them with new ones and not refurbs since the issue isn't just replacing the screen. The lightleaks were a manufacturing design error and is not fixable.
You might get a replacement for other problems not sure. Most of the ones I have heard about have been new. There was a code that you can do. I forgot.
I got mine in a new unopened box. Refurbs don't get that from what I have seen. Usually they ask that you keep the battery, backcover, SD card, etc. In my case they asked for the whole thing back and my friends that had theirs replaced as well. They did let me keep my SD card. probably for security reasons.
I did replaced the LCD on my HTC HD and it was rather painless. The ribbon slides in easy with a steady hand or tweezers. I used a paperclip medium sized to place my glue correctly/evenly and it was great. $25.00 compared to $350 from HTC.
Man, if I coudl get garunteed a ****ign novatech, I'd just do an asurion claim tomorrow.
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because it was in a new unopened box with all accessories when they send a refurb it does not include the battery, ect. Plus not that all companies do it but it has to be marked as a refurb if it in fact is.
Hi all,
so for the last few days my Incredible ceased to be so Incredible. I dropped the phone (trying to save a damn dog mind you), cracked the screen, bought a replacement, killed the lcd... yada yada yada. Lots of tension headaches and wasted money, i'm getting a new one... well for free.
My question is, based on the things i have read, will the rooting process and rom installation etc. be any different on the new phone. I assume the lcd will be the one HTC switched to after the shortage.
Thanks peeps.
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Hi all,
so for the last few days my Incredible ceased to be so Incredible. I dropped the phone (trying to save a damn dog mind you), cracked the screen, bought a replacement, killed the lcd... yada yada yada. Lots of tension headaches and wasted money, i'm getting a new one... well for free.
My question is, based on the things i have read, will the rooting process and rom installation etc. be any different on the new phone. I assume the lcd will be the one HTC switched to after the shortage.
Thanks peeps.
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From what I understand if you tell them you want another AMOLED that's what they'll give you, let us know how it works out.
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From what I understand if you tell them you want another AMOLED that's what they'll give you, let us know how it works out.
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At this point i'm just glad i can actually get a new phone for free. I didn't even think about asking for an AMOLED lcd when the representative told me the good news. He placed the order in front me and i was happily on my way. This is huge for me that they did this so i can't really ask for much.
So my question remains, will there be anything different in the rooting process etc.?
Thanks.
The recovery is different I do believe that's it
Sent from my Incredible using XDA App
Happiness
I received a phone with hardware version 0002. AMOLED i luvs yous
I need to go back and thank the Verizon peeps.
Unreal2k, would you mind telling me if you asked for the phone from VZW or HTC? I'm thinking of buying an inc and would prefer amoled. thanks
I never thought to ask for AMOLED when I got my Incredible. I had a hell of a time rooting it with the LCD. Luckily i know someone who was able to fix it.
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Unreal2k, would you mind telling me if you asked for the phone from VZW or HTC? I'm thinking of buying an inc and would prefer amoled. thanks
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I went directly to VZW. If you are buying a new phone your situation will probably be different. I don't even think they sell AMOLEDs any more.
Mine came like that because it was a re certified. Hope this helps.
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I never thought to ask for AMOLED when I got my Incredible. I had a hell of a time rooting it with the LCD. Luckily i know someone who was able to fix it.
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I didn't really ask. My guess is that there are way more re certified AMOLEDs than SLCDs at this point. But who knows, some other person in the forums suggested if you had an AMOLED that's what they will exchange.
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I didn't really ask. My guess is that there are way more re certified AMOLEDs than SLCDs at this point. But who knows, some other person in the forums suggested if you had an AMOLED that's what they will exchange.
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Yeah that was me. When we order the replacements the system knows if your original purchase was an AMOLED or SLCD and populates the replacement code accordingly. There is a minor difference in the SKU in our inventory.
Hi guys, i've posted before, I used to have a Droid X but sold it for a reason, how do you guys like the Dinc? Any of you guys had a phone with a bigger screen before? Have you gotten used to typing on it? How is the overall experience with the Dinc?
Well I love my Dinc. I'm coming from an Eris previously though so to me it does seem 'bigger'. It for sure has the speed and power with whatever I need it to do. So no issue there. IDK, I guess its the difference between what you want and what you need it to do. It is an older device with scimpy support of course from VZW and HTC. But then again we have some awesome devs on here that are still putting in a lot of work for the device. But if you want the latest tech you should deferentially hold of for something like the Vigor(inc hd?) or drop some cash right now for the Inc2 or dare I even say Thunderbolt? lol. Time moves on and tech keeps getting better.
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do not get the thunderbolt. It is such a bad decision. Do not even consider it. I love this phone though, if you can wait, definitely wait for the vigor. I have a strong feeling that's what's gonna be in my pocket on December 14th (my upgrade day)
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Well, I couldn't possibly disagree with you more. The Thunderbolt is without a doubt the single best device Verizon has. Nothing else does as much so well. HTC attempted to do something NO OTHER PHONE has ever done, and succeeded; simultaneous voice and EVDO/LTE data. The Charge doesn't do it, and neither does the LG. Of course waiting is an option, but a stupid one in my estimation because it's an argument that could be made at any point in time about any device. Assuming you're going to wait and get it at or near launch, you're virtually stuck with whatever HTC and Verizon deem worthy for it to run. Root is another question altogether. I've argued with several people about the merits of the Tbolt, usually with people that have hardly touched one. Bottom line is that I've yet to hand my phone to someone who didn't find it just stupid-fast and a pure pleasure to use. The stock battery pounds both the EVO 4G and dInc right into the ground by a solid margin of 30% while running 1.5GHz.
To directly answer the question of whether I'd recommend the dInc today, no, I certainly wouldn't. If I had to recommend a phone, it would be the Tbolt first, the dInc2 second for those who've got little hope of seeing LTE in the near future. I wouldn't recommend waiting to get a Vigor or whatever it shall be called for 2 reasons. First, nobody knows what's really inside that phone. Second, nobody know how it's actually going to perform. There was all this orgasmic hype around the Tbolt. When it launched, it had some issues that were't exactly clear, but have since been resolved to the tune of solid 1 day battery lives and practically flawless operation and reliability. But still, I see posts like this, clearly uninformed, bashing on a truly excellent device, one which seems to have some of the most unique and exciting development of any device I'm aware of. I can't speak for phones that don't exist, but today, as this is written, the Tbolt is the BEST device Verizon has ever sold, supported by the fastest network, providing feature NO other device offers.
Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.
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Thanks for the replies guys, but I will not be going to Verizon. Not everyone can afford to have the latest and greatest, that's not what i'm aiming for. If I get the Dinc and activate it, it won't be used on Verizon.
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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.
I would get a thunderbolt only because ihtfp is working his magic on it. Skyraider Zeus looks incredible!
That said, I would still recommend the incredible to someone who likes small form phones. Its the last of its kind and runs like a champ with a vast selection of custom roms. However I am not sure how many of these roms will play nice with the carrier you plan on going to.
Sent from my Droid Incredible using the XDA app.
Gotta say I love the dinc (like previous poster said, it's size — I can slip it in my back pocket); I intend to keep buying dincs (ebay) until droids stop trending into tablet-sized paperweights.
But one issue with the dinc is the infuriatingly small amount of phone memory; I haven't hit on the issue myself (I clean app caches regularly, don't install every app on the market), but it's a bit douchey that internal memory is 8G, but only about 700MB is 'phone memory'. If there was one thing I could change about the stock phone, it would be the phone memory partition.
Otherwise, development for dInc is [no pun] incredible. If you don't mind the size, tb or dinc2 would be good options, too.
(And if you're not going with vzw and don't care about size, hold out for the freaking samsung galaxy 2!)
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it's a great phone and I would definitely recommend it to anyone, not just people on a budget or saving an upgrade. I have three lines with upgrades available and won't use them on anything out now, waiting on the next batch of phones.
we have a thunderbolt in the house and I don't think it is worth the upgrade (even with our one year plan), it is not the tremendous upgrade that some people here will say and you're not on verizon so lte doesn't matter.
Definitely get an incredible if you find a good deal, you shouldn't be disappointed.
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I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.
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I bought one today for 110 dollars, the guy said it was mint and had a clean esn, the phone did look fresh looking, and my sister checked the esn, it is clean, does have some scratches on the side, I had a Droid X, but, I like the Dinc, problem though, the screen has burn in. How about replacing this screen and or digitizer or whatever.
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That's not that hard. I have a friend who does that stuff. The AMOLED is a little harder to find than the SLCD and they aren't compatible. All the digitizers are the same. Use the tape to mount it, not glue. I've heard stories of it bleeding over into the screen area.
I think it would depend on price and availability.
If you can get it cheap, and options like the Thunderbolt or Incredible 2 aren't available for whatever reason, it's still a good phone.
I would certainly recommend and do recommend the Incredible, maybe not for bleeding-edge people, but for anyone I want to introduce to the wonders of Android, I always tell them to go for the Incredible, and everyone that has have all been as blown away as I first was. The most solid phone I've ever owned by a massive margin.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App
Dinc has been really worth it b/c of ease of use and rooting. I would recommend this phone for anyone wanting to get into this sorta stuff.
Hi,
Bit annoyed, i'll tell you what happened.
SO ... i was happy with my One X, didn't have the screen flicker, or artifacts, or the bad battery life problems.
Then 1.29.401 came along and changed all that. Screen flickers regularly now, and the battery seems to drain a lot faster.
I called HTC, reset the phone, yada yada yada.
HTC told me to go back to where i got it from to DOA it, even though the phone was more than two weeks old. I call the store's support hotline, they said they would "probably" DOA it if the phone was "like new" ...
It's like new because it IS new, so fine.
I go to the store, wait in line for a good 1-1.5 hrs.
Then comes what we all despise.
"Well ... i can't see anything wrong with it."
That's just GREAT!
I spend another 10 minutes trying to explain that it's most noticeable on greys, etc, etc. FINALLY i get him to notice the flickering. He said we'll need your phone for 3 weeks approx. I refuse, he says tough luck. No DOA, no refund. They'll send it in for "repair".
Now ... all of you here KNOW that a phone doesn't get "repaired". If it's not software, they'll send you new hardware. Simple.
Anyway ... i walk out of the store. I Call HTC again. Same story. Dude tells me all he can do for me is to collect it, will take 10 days.
And then i got pissed off ...
This is how i got them to escalate the case:
Me: "Your update ruined my phone. I didn't have problems before, you not only sold me faulty hardware, you ruined my phone after selling it to me."
Rep: "We have to follow procedures, i cannot just give you another phone."
Me: "But you can just go ahead and break it?"
Rep: "Well ..."
Me: "You sold me faulty hardware, you broke it after you sold it to me. This is your responsibility. I am not going to take days off and incur further costs because you -as a company- are playing hide and seek. You won't 'fix' this phone at all. I don't see some poor schmuck with a soldering iron going at it on a microscopic 10 layer board. You want me to send you the phone for you to throw on a pile and then you'll have to send me a new one anyways. This is a hardware problem."
Rep: "I'll escalate the case for you."
Cue long and boring Q&A...
We'll see what happens. I hope they send me a new phone. I don't want to jump through hoops to get proper and decent service. This phone is expensive, i bought it unlocked and unbranded. They should just stop playing games!
I know you read this HTC, please treat your customers better.
Kr,
-Kevin
I'm dreading updating to 1.29 in case it ruins my phone
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I'm dreading updating to 1.29 in case it ruins my phone
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The way i see it, it's already in some state of disrepair.
I think the backlight is just PWM controlled since it's leds anyway.
They are probably using some PWM capable pin off of something and some transistors. Either this line is being spiked by something (like RF, or static discharge), or it can't provide enough current to drive the transistors in a stable manner.
I dno, but the second i saw it, i was sure it's a hardware issue.
This is, I could quite conceivably have the issue but I just might not notice it - everyone's eyes are different. I mean I can read things at great distance and have perfect 20/20 vision but I've not had a single issue with my handset at all
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This is, I could quite conceivably have the issue but I just might not notice it - everyone's eyes are different. I mean I can read things at great distance and have perfect 20/20 vision but I've not had a single issue with my handset at all
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Trust me, you'll know when you have it. It's pretty obvious. It's like a pulsing stroboscope.
There are topics about flickering and HTC answers, no need to open a thousand
vegetaleb said:
There are topics about flickering and HTC answers, no need to open a thousand
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Yet, the answers all differ?
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Yet, the answers all differ?
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looky here, read the entire first post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617009
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looky here, read the entire first post..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617009
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Thanks!
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Yet, the answers all differ?
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That's because, in the absence of any real information, people keep making things up. Then, multiple people buy in to whatever the guess of the day is and it starts being treated as fact.
Here are some facts:
- The issue is most likely Teg3 related as it's not occuring on the One XL.
- It's not the physical display or related h/w as the One XL isn't experiencing any similar issues.
- It's most likely s/w as the Teg3-based Asus Prime had similar issues and they were resolved after multiple updates.
- Resolution is most likely out of HTC's control as Nvidia' drivers and low-level code are proprietery; meaning they have to make the revisions.
- Phone's at the height of their flickering score lower on the AnTuTu 2D test. When rebooted they score normally. This points to s/w.
- Further supporting that, the below quote if from a very well respected dev here on XDA.
designgears said:
Pretty sure this has to do with the crappy gfx drivers. The same thing that cause the camera to have issues and the notification bar. While I had the international one x, the phone benched really well while those problems weren't happening, but as soon as I was able to reproduce them and ran the tests again, score was reduced by a lot.
I could reboot the phone and the problems would go away, only to come back after some use.
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In the absence of hard fact it's normal to speculate. It's not normal to accept that speculation in place of fact when it's not provided by people with h/w or s/w engineering experience any greater than your own.
I think the At&t version has a little different screen. I keep seeing it it brighter and it has a little different coloring. Could be software controlling that, but I think its more likely just that they have improved the build quality of the display. Better quality then the first batches that came on the first batches of the Htc One X with Tegra 3. I have read that the newest batch of them have better displays.
Look around the 7:05 mark
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/05/0...tegra-3-quad-core-vs-snapdragon-s4-dual-core/
MadHatter01 said:
I think the At&t version has a little different screen. I keep seeing it it brighter and it has a little different coloring. Could be software controlling that, but I think its more likely just that they have improved the build quality of the display. Better quality then the first batches that came on the first batches of the Htc One X with Tegra 3. I have read that the newest batch of them have better displays.
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It has the same panel ID's and vendor codes as the One X.
BarryH_GEG said:
That's because, in the absence of any real information, people keep making things up. Then, multiple people buy in to whatever the guess of the day is and it starts being treated as fact.
Here are some facts:
- The issue is most likely Teg3 related as it's not occuring on the One XL.
- It's not the physical display or related h/w as the One XL isn't experiencing any similar issues.
- It's most likely s/w as the Teg3-based Asus Prime had similar issues and they were resolved after multiple updates.
- Resolution is most likely out of HTC's control as Nvidia' drivers and low-level code are proprietery; meaning they have to make the revisions.
- Phone's at the height of their flickering score lower on the AnTuTu 2D test. When rebooted they score normally. This points to s/w.
- Further supporting that, the below quote if from a very well respected dev here on XDA.
In the absence of hard fact it's normal to speculate. It's not normal to accept that speculation in place of fact when it's not provided by people with h/w or s/w engineering experience any greater than your own.
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The antutu thing: when rebooted, the flicker doesn't disappear, but the benchmark score returns to normal, that would indicate that the antutu benchmark score is entirely different to the flickering
I do understand your points however, I'm just not convinced it is software. And that HTC /nvidia whoever are trying to bodge the software to make it work with crappy hardware that isn't working correctly. Personally id rather have the hardware that worked in the first place without any fixes.
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Yes, but I think they have improved on the build quality of the lcd. Sometimes it takes a couple of batches to get through before they have perfected the model.
lawrence750 said:
The antutu thing: when rebooted, the flicker doesn't disappear, but the benchmark score returns to normal, that would indicate that the antutu benchmark score is entirely different to the flickering
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My phone and other phones that don't flicker have AnTuTu 2D scores that never change. There most likely is a h/w component to the problem. Speculation is that there's some inconsitency between Teg3 chips and the range they're responding in is outside what the s/w's anticipating. Flickering is just one of the graphics issues. At this point there's nothing to indicate they all aren't related. You can assume that outside the SoC and radios, most parts are common between the X and XL to save on component and production costs. I'd also assume that most of the HTC developed s/w is common to both phones also. The fact that the XL isn't having graphics issues points to something Teg3 related. Especially because the Prime had some of the same funky issues at launch. While it may defy logic, the issues on the Prime were resolved with s/w.