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Unfortunately, it looks like I will be returning my Moto 360

It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.

mzimmer88 said:
It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.
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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Misery loves company, I suppose.... That may explain why Motorola support was hardly helpful.

Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.

interested.
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
mzimmer88 said:
Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.
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Lol you guys think that's bad? You can just cycle bluetooth and it reconnects right?
I'm using the 360 with an ancient GS2 with CM-11 on it, and my bluetooth module is dying or something because it will disconnect the watch > then turn off bluetooth > and only way to re-enable is to restart the GS2 lol
My watch is more powerful than my phone... no update will fix that!

OrionNE said:
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
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20 minutes in and so far so good. Ha!
I will let more time go by before I do a real update. Off the bat, the difference I noticed is that the status bar just says "connected," rather than "connected, running sync loop." Not sure if that means anything.

I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.

Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Don't experience disconnect on my g watch unless I wander away from my phone.

Crazypinoy9 said:
I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...

Hour 4, minute 9. No disconnects to be reported. An uneasy calmness fills the air.

I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.

kronium said:
I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.
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Sadly, I just returned my moto 360 today. I got constant disconnects on Bluetooth as well, but that actually didn't bother me. For me, it was the battery life. I got tired of charging it once in the middle of the day, everyday.
Also, I think Android wear is just not up to par yet...
My last watch was the Gear 2, & I agree that it's a much better watch and much better operating system. I got spoiled by 3 to 4 days worth of battery life and a beautiful screen- it just happens to be square... Also, the IR blaster is just too damn cool and useful!
I liked the round watch so much, that my next SmartWatch will probably be the LG G watch R. I'm hoping that they learn a lesson from Motorola and fix some of the problems that the moto 360 had. I'm also hoping that it is easier to modify and we can have a better experience with Android wear. I think I'm going to stick with Android Wear- after all, I remember the Android operating system was pretty bad when it first came out too...
Lastly, I just think it's ridiculous to have a watch that has the display turned off most of the time. I know someday in the future (soon) we will look back and laugh at the fact that smart watches had to sit there with the screens turned off most the time!

moto x here. no disconnects.

S5 here and no disconnects either.

I have an N5 and have experienced none of the behavior mentioned by OP. Watch stays connected unless I get out of range and reconnects smoothly when I come back within range.

gammite said:
moto x here. no disconnects.
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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.

I have a Moto X, had a LG G watch for a week and now a moto 360 for a few days, haven't seen a single disconnect with either one.

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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.
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the watch has an icon it displays when it is not connected. the only time i see that icon is when i disconnect it.

maybe a replacement instead of a return?
tsy87 said:
ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...
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Only disconnected once over 5 days (other than testing how far I could go before it would, and it's at least 4 walls away), using Moto X. Maybe just your watch is the issue, and try a replacement before a return?

What can you do without pairing the Moto 360?

Hi, because I have an iPhone 6 Plus, what can I do without pairing the Moto 360? thanks

Well not much really. All the apps and watch faces are downloaded and installed on the phone. Then they show up on the watch. Anything that requires online connectivity (weather, google searches, etc) depends on the phone's data, so you can't access anything without the phone that isn't already built in to the watch.
That means you can tell the time, and maybe use the health apps like the step counter and heart rate monitor?
Really it's not worth it without pairing it to a phone. Either get yourself an Android or wait for the Apple Watch.
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hayat55 said:
Hi, because I have an iPhone 6 Plus, what can I do without pairing the Moto 360? thanks
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Yeah it's essentially a dead-weight as the previous poster said. Basically it does what a watch does, tell time. In addition to that it does have the step counter and heart rate monitor.
I actually had a HTC One which I sent in for repair and then a OnePlus One which I sold and somehow ended up with an iPhone 6 and so my Moto 360 is pretty much just sitting around nowadays.
Even though I have the HTC to pair it to when it comes back, I don't see myself using the watch very often, if at all because Google Now, sending texts, etc. was a pretty integral part to the watch for me.
If you're thinking about purchasing one and will be sticking with your iPhone, I would probably suggest not to unless you really like how it looks and just want a watch... but even then I still wouldn't suggest it.

Without pairing, you might not even get it to tell the accurate time...

Not to mention that you can't even set it up without pairing it to an android device, you can't skip that step.

Zhou86 said:
Without pairing, you might not even get it to tell the accurate time...
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Can confirm this. Time is not accurate unless recently paired.
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dead_ohio_sky said:
Can confirm this. Time is not accurate unless recently paired.
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I'm curious here. About how much inaccurate? A few seconds per day?

I've heard a few minutes a day, but haven't experienced anything that drastic.
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[Q] sleep tracking

Hello experts,
Since didn't find any information I'm wondering if there is any app able to be used as sleep tracker on SWR50?
Thanks a lot
Enrico

You can try "Sleep as Android".

mikk_11 said:
You can try "Sleep as Android".
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Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?

I really dont understand why Google and Sony made from us alpha testers of their system and watches.... Why is it possible that wristbands like MiBand can track sleep and walks for 30days with 10times smaller battery??? Technology is invented and as 15USD MBand shows - very cheap!
Google with actual version of Android Wear is on good way to kill this kind of watches.... Almost no SMS support, no email support, no calendar support, sleep and walk tracking almost unusable...)

If a smartwatch doesn't do what you don't buy one.Buy a fitness band.right now smart watches are just an extension of your phones

Unfortunatelly, nowadays are wear watches very bad phone extension. No way to see sms, email, calendar events, This must be essential part of system. No way to see weather, when IWANT to see weather. It is really crazy when google shows me weather almost every day around midnight, when I am in bed and it is impossible to block it.
Do you want to see older notification - no way. Do you want to edit notification (length and number of vibration) - no way... etc etc.
And Sony SW3 are sport watches, so tracking is essential part of their usage....

I get all the the notification from yahoo mail and gmail. I receive and reply to my wifes text messages without ever having to pick up my n6.And I can listen to music without my phone.

I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.

TheGSL said:
I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.
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Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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tu3218 said:
Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
Sent from my Nexus 9 using XDA Free mobile app
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Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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I really hope, that Sony (and google) will release new version of wear OS much faster then new version of Android.... Because v 5.0 Lollipop was released more then year after 4.4 I am little bit afraid, because Google synchronized numbering of version od Android and Wear OS.

rzarecter said:
Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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tu3218 said:
If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app

rzarecter said:
True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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Exactly! I'm still waiting for an all in one as well. But I think the Sony watch does a decent job in doing it all. There's not one out there though that does it all prefect yet either. It's really either a smart watch with some fitness features or a fitness band that excels in step counting, etc but with no smartphone extension. Maybe with updates it'll get better. I think it's more a limitation of google fit software in lollipop in its algorithm in calculating steps rather than Sony.
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Same here, no any problems exept the same (steps are inaccurate, cards are uneditabe etc) and the sleep tracker never works, exept today, im bit sick so i slept like 18 hours barely moving at all (must sleep on my back so i can breath) and when i woke up and checked SW3, It said my daily sleeping goal was suceeded ! then i checked lifelog and there it was, 14:11 sleep last night ! not really accurate but something at least and it actually works, i dunno how it counts it sleeping or how it now decided to work but man it does something... i thing it has something to do with not moving much (but still some) at a certain period of time before it thinks you are sleeping...

freewing70 said:
Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?
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Can you please share the link Petr mentioned to you for Sleep as Android updates?
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Hmm. According to the release notes, this version of Sleep As Android made yesterday includes a fix for the Smartwatch 3. I'm not seeing it in the Play store yet, but I guess that's probably coming soon. I installed the apk to test it out and got some conflicting information. When I started sleep tracking the notification on the phone says "Sorry, SmartWatch 3 is not yet fully supported!", however, the chart in the app shows movement from the watch's accelerometer. Seems like it should work, but I guess I won't know for sure until tomorrow morning.

I'm trying asap and will let you know.
I even get the message about SWR50 (not fully suported): I think it is because of huge battery drain.

It seems to have worked perfectly. My only complaint is that the Lucid dreaming vibrations woke me up, but that is neither here nor there.

I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.

Jerry7650 said:
I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.
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Oh. So I guess it's kind of subjective at this point. I consider it usable, I just have to put the watch on the charger a half hour before bed so I know it has enough charge for the night.

Zenwatch Wifi

Does anyone know if we have wifi built in. I've heard people say all the Snapdragon 400 have it built in. I know some will not care about this because it may turn out to being a battery sucking update. But a may be a good update for others.

rolo305 said:
Does anyone know if we have wifi built in. I've heard people say all the Snapdragon 400 have it built in. I know some will not care about this because it may turn out to being a battery sucking update. But a may be a good update for others.
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Wifi is not available on all Snapdragon 400 processors. I am sure they used one that does not have it for costs. Even if it was available the antennas wouldn't be there. Would be nice though.

Wifi
Great question! I've been trying to find an answer to it since the article ran on Google turning on wifi for android wear devices. Looking at Qualcomm's page on the ZenWatch, they "link" it to a picture of the Snapdragon 400 (bottom of the page) and say that Snapdragon 400 processors support 4G LTE, and when you look at the following picture of the chip at their page for the ZenWatch (I cannot post links yet), you see that the LTE and Wifi share the same space on the chip. However, depending on where you look you see that the Zenwatch is running either the 8026 or 8226, and the 8026 is said to not support wifi. Then, Techtimes says that the Zenwatch, Gear Live, and the Urbane all support Wifi..
The truly odd piece of it is that according to the article on The Verge- "Most Android Wear watches already have Wi-Fi built in, so a simple software update should activate the feature for them." (I cant post links yet). The only watch that I can see that actually supports it is the Sony 3. Most of the other watches seem to share the Qualcomm 400 chipset, but I doubt anybody will know which actually supports wifi until Google "turns" it on. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the Zenwatch will though!!

Fantastic research.

This may be of interest:
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/3...-gesture-control-and-wi-fi-support-report.htm
"Many smartwatches running on Android Wear, including the Samsung Gear Live, the Asus ZenWatch, and the LG Watch Urbane, are powered by a Snapdragon chip that has a built-in Wi-Fi module, so a simple firmware update should immediately activate Wi-Fi in these devices."

Especially good news considering this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/andro...will-get-new-phones-free-features-next-update

Hopefully Asus activates it... :fingers-crossed:

Looks like there won´t be Wifi for us... :crying:
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/21/lg-g-watch-missing-wifi/

Kelthizar said:
Looks like there won´t be Wifi for us... :crying:
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/21/lg-g-watch-missing-wifi/
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Sadly enough I read the same thing after upating this morning. I feel kinda left out not having wifi

ALpHaMoNk said:
Sadly enough I read the same thing after upating this morning. I feel kinda left out not having wifi
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So you got the update already?

With this not having wifi (admittedly not an advertised feature), the poor looking ambient display, and being locked down completely, I am starting to get buyers remorse.

hecksagon said:
With this not having wifi (admittedly not an advertised feature), the poor looking ambient display, and being locked down completely, I am starting to get buyers remorse.
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I disagree. Not to go off-topic, but I feel like I'm getting a decent amount of utility for the $200 I spent. The appearance is great (and I get lots of compliments on it) and the battery life is good enough. I'm not really sure the wifi feature is going to be that useful. Don't we all keep our phones in our pockets 24x7 anyway?
I am looking forward to being able to draw text message responses. It sounds dumb, but if you're in a loud place (and can't use the voice actions) being able to quickly draw an "okay" or "no" response is going to be great.

I'm happy with the Zen watch; I only have found a few issues, one being the BT range is just a little too short. WiFi would have helped with that, but I'm still very happy with it.

Kelthizar said:
Looks like there won´t be Wifi for us... :crying:
http://phandroid.com/2015/04/21/lg-g-watch-missing-wifi/
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So you got the update already?
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yes just checked the app on my phone and it said update so I did, turned on the wifi cloud sync and surely it didn't work.
hecksagon said:
With this not having wifi (admittedly not an advertised feature), the poor looking ambient display, and being locked down completely, I am starting to get buyers remorse.
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I felt the same way, wifi wasn't advertise but neither was it few a other phones but was still activated when updated. I felt a bit inferior when it didn't work for me and saw that it works for just about every other watch. yes my phone is in my pocket most of the time but I work IT in a hospital and sometimes I forget my phone at my desk and on the charger and my watch is disconnected, I was looking forward to still having connection.
I did pick up this watch over all others due to the look mostly, it was the best looking watch hands down without looking too geeky.
wifi - atleast 24hr battery life without having to dumb it down, and edge to edge screen (not so much bezel) would have made the watch perfect for me. oh and heart rate sensor on the back and not the two finger on the edge bit.

Personally I wish they would have just eliminated the heart rate feature. None of the heart rate monitors on the wear watches are that accurate, and the cost savings on this model in particular could have been used to implement a wifi antenna. Unfortunately everybody is on the wellness device hype train.

ALpHaMoNk said:
yes just checked the app on my phone and it said update so I did, turned on the wifi cloud sync and surely it didn't work.
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There's actually two parts to the update: the Android Wear app on your phone - and the actual firmware on the watch and to the best of my knowledge, the update for the watch itself isn't out yet.

Correct, the watches need the firmware update which hasn't started yet. Given that its only one site reporting I think wed be best advised to see what happens when the update comes

There is an antenna!
Bluetooth and wifi can share the same antenna!!! Most smartphones and tablets do. Looked at the internals of the s3-s5 and some other devices and they seemingly share the same antenna. That's my understanding anyway. Because the wifi and bluetooth are on the same chip, something in the hardware allows the two to coexist on the same antenna. They operate in the same frequency range so I imagine it does some switching in the hardware.
If our watches don't get Wifi, I really don't believe it's a hardware limitation. I wish there was a tear down for the zenwatch, as I've seen it for every other watch. I'm not brave enough to take mine apart.
Someone fact check! Hope I'm not wrong
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I've read that the urbane has an Snapdragon 8026 and mostly the same innards as the G Watch R. If its getting WiFi then surely other watches using the same processor will be supported.

kellybrf said:
Correct, the watches need the firmware update which hasn't started yet. Given that its only one site reporting I think wed be best advised to see what happens when the update comes
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watch is on 5.0.2 and software on 1.1.1.1876095
still no wifi

ALpHaMoNk said:
watch is on 5.0.2 and software on 1.1.1.1876095
still no wifi
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correct, the update has not rolled out to any devices yet

Moto with Google Fit and no phone on me?

Hi, my first post for the Moto 360.
I'm thinking of buying the current model for me and my wife since they are being discounted at a good price to make room for the new ones. We basically want to use it for fit, Google fit.
Does your phone need to be on you for the Google fit to work on the Moto 360? Will it need WIFI to work and I've read the update for WIFI has been put on hold until Moto works out some problems with the update with Google?
I walk a lot at work and we are not allow to have our cell phones on us. But I wanted to be able to keep track of how many steps and etc. I would like for Google fit to work on the watch without having to have my phone on me.
Thanks in advance!

anyone? 60 some views..

jcarlm said:
Hi, my first post for the Moto 360.
I'm thinking of buying the current model for me and my wife since they are being discounted at a good price to make room for the new ones. We basically want to use it for fit, Google fit.
Does your phone need to be on you for the Google fit to work on the Moto 360? Will it need WIFI to work and I've read the update for WIFI has been put on hold until Moto works out some problems with the update with Google?
I walk a lot at work and we are not allow to have our cell phones on us. But I wanted to be able to keep track of how many steps and etc. I would like for Google fit to work on the watch without having to have my phone on me.
Thanks in advance!
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It will do heart rate and steps with no phone.
At some point you will need the phone but it will store steps and heart rate on the watch with no issues.

jcarlm said:
Hi, my first post for the Moto 360.
I'm thinking of buying the current model for me and my wife since they are being discounted at a good price to make room for the new ones. We basically want to use it for fit, Google fit.
Does your phone need to be on you for the Google fit to work on the Moto 360? Will it need WIFI to work and I've read the update for WIFI has been put on hold until Moto works out some problems with the update with Google?
I walk a lot at work and we are not allow to have our cell phones on us. But I wanted to be able to keep track of how many steps and etc. I would like for Google fit to work on the watch without having to have my phone on me.
Thanks in advance!
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You do not need your phone with you for Fit to count steps. Once the phone re-syncs with the watch your steps will be synced to fit. I have tried this and it works just fine, but there are some issues with the Fit app itself.
Last night I did a run on a treadmill for the first time with my watch on and my phone just sitting on the treadmill . When I opened up the Fit app my step count was about what it was before my treadmill run. However when I went to the bar graph of the steps taken by hour all of my steps were showing up in there. If I added up the totals though out the day I was off by several thousand steps. I have two apps the report off the Google Fit stats - Driver watchface and it was picking up all the steps in its totals as well as Cinch and it was picking up the steps correctly. I went in and added an activity to Google Fit and it then added the steps to the daily total and did not change the step counts in the bar graph. I still had about 500 more steps in the bar graph that I had in the totals and I assume this is from times when I left my phone sitting in the house and I was walking around.
So it is not perfect, but it looks like it is an app issue with Google Fit and hopefully they can fix it sooner rather than later.